Re: Independent Entity to Develop and Further AOO

2016-07-11 Thread Suminda Dharmasena
This is exactly what I had in mind also.



>
> AN ALTERNATIVE APPROACH
>
> Another way to interact and support Apache OpenOffice in terms of
> collaborative contributions is as follows.
>
>  1. Establish a downstream producer, TeamX (for example), that provides
> releases of derivative software based on Apache OpenOffice.
>
>  2. Assumption #1: The Apache License Version 2 (ALv2) is honored in the
> use of Apache OpenOffice source code.  Apache trademark requirements are
> satisfied in any use as part of the branding of the downstream product.
>
>  3. Assumption #2: New code and modifications to the TeamX derivative are
> also under ALv2.
>
>  4. Open-Source Good Citizenship: The ALv2-licensed fixes and repairs are
> contributed back upstream to Apache OpenOffice.  Components from other
> sources would, of course, be contributed upstream to those sources.
> Contributions and joint concerns might lead to use of the OpenOffice
> bugzilla as a coordination point.
>
>  5. Opportunity.  The business model, organization, and governance of
> TeamX is not of concern to the ASF.
>
>  6. Opportunity.  The Apache Software Foundation requirements beyond
> honoring of the ALv2 that govern Apache projects serving the public
> interest do not apply, although TeamX could operate in a harmonious manner.
>
>  7. Opportunity. So long as there is clear separation and no comingling in
> source-code files, TeamX is not constrained from also using code or
> components from other projects, such as those using licenses such as the
> MPL or, under appropriate conditions, something like LGPL2, with
> appropriate honoring of those licenses too.  However, to avoid tainting of
> upstream source-code contributions back to Apache OpenOffice, there must be
> careful management of IP and reliance on code (source or binary) under
> non-ALv2 license (and ALv2 code which is not the original work of TeamX).
>
>  8. Opportunity. Depending on how close the operation of TeamX releases
> remains to that of Apache OpenOffice, especially at the beginning, one can
> rely on the Apache OpenOffice mediawiki and openoffice.org site in large
> measure, so long as there is no confusion.  Also, the Apache OpenOffice
> Community Forums are more ecumenical in how they can provide forum support
> to OpenOffice.org-lineage ODF-supporting products. How confusion is avoided
> would need to be worked out, but this provides TeamX time to develop its
> own support as that ends up having unique requirements.
>
> This is not unlike how downstream organizations rely on Apache OpenOffice
> for specialized distributions (e.g., FreeBSD, OS/2, and Solaris).  There
> are other Apache projects where the downstream ecosystem is quite robust
> and the key Apache project deliverable is the source-code release and not
> so much any end-user binary distributions.
>
>  - Dennis
>
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Re: Independent Entity to Develop and Further AOO

2016-07-11 Thread Suminda Dharmasena
Every remaining dev / concerned user must get together a take an
initiative. Things rarely workout on their own.

On 11 July 2016 at 13:11, JZA <acolor...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Sounds good, there have been some intention of these in the past, not sure
> how open the community is right now to be honest. But is a good idea if
> somehow there is some strong backing.
>
> On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 2:23 AM, Suminda Dharmasena <
> sirinath19...@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I am writing to see if the current AOO Dev team would like to create an
> > independent entity which can:
> >
> >- Do trainings
> >- Accept funds and have pay developers
> >- Write commercial books / online tutorials with sponsorship
> >
> > This can be used have paid developers working on the project. Maybe
> initial
> > sponsorship can come from an organisation like Redhat, Pivotal or Micro
> > Focus if they are interested. Perhaps companies which used the code base
> in
> > the past like IBM or Oracle.
> >
> > The entity should ensure they work on the AOO codebase using the ASF way.
> >
> > Suminda
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Alexandro Colorado
> Apache OpenOffice Contributor
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>


Independent Entity to Develop and Further AOO

2016-07-11 Thread Suminda Dharmasena
Hello,

I am writing to see if the current AOO Dev team would like to create an
independent entity which can:

   - Do trainings
   - Accept funds and have pay developers
   - Write commercial books / online tutorials with sponsorship

This can be used have paid developers working on the project. Maybe initial
sponsorship can come from an organisation like Redhat, Pivotal or Micro
Focus if they are interested. Perhaps companies which used the code base in
the past like IBM or Oracle.

The entity should ensure they work on the AOO codebase using the ASF way.

Suminda