Re: Eclipse vs other IDEs (was: Re: Ide for Open Office (was Building OO))

[Peter kovacs]

>> >
>> I agree. The wiki did say they managed to open all of AOO in one
>Eclipse
>> project, but it took a lot of memory. I must try it some time.
>>
>
>​You can open AOO in ONE Eclipse project but it does take a lot of
>physical
>memory. And you need to up the memory for your Java considerably.
>
>I don't know what the situation is now. I actually did a build from
>Eclipse
>but not with all the options used for a distribution, but I did a
>customized "make" statement using the "build" command. I was just
>trying
>this out and ended up abandoning it due to memory lockups.
>
>Are you building trunk now with GCC? That might work better.
We are moving to gmake instead of snake with build Perl script.

I guess that what you mean by referring gcc. :)
I have used GCC to build open office back in my gentoo days.

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Re: Eclipse vs other IDEs (was: Re: Ide for Open Office (was Building OO))

[Kay Schenk]

On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 1:04 AM, Damjan Jovanovic  wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 9:13 AM, Peter kovacs  wrote:
>
> > Damian,
> >
> > I think you got me wrong.
> > I am not saying Eclipse is bad.
> > I say the wiki guide will configure eclipse to a basic level. Basic means
> > you can navigate through code. Build elements.
> >
> > Complete integration would include
> > # have all in one project, instead of each module separated.
> > # have all modules available as subprojects
> > # be able to build in part or full from within Eclipse.
> > # package and signing within the IDE.
> > # auto update makefiles
> > # templates for extention development or modules, including our project
> > structures
> > # visual helper and architecture planing tools
> > # bugzilla support ( there is a plugin. Haven't tried yet)
> > # setup functionalities so it is easy to setup your work environment
> > # confluence integration for release management
> >
> >
> Those are ambitious goals. AFAIK most can't be done in an IDE even on newer
> smaller all-Java projects, like the Apache Commons projects.
>
>
> >
> > The only tool that I think is currently capable to provide the tooling is
> > eclipse.
> >
> > I am very far away. And not even at the basic support that the guide
> > promises. I try to jump at the complete picture. Especially the need to
> > chop all code into small pieces pisses me off.
> >
> >
> I agree. The wiki did say they managed to open all of AOO in one Eclipse
> project, but it took a lot of memory. I must try it some time.
>

​You can open AOO in ONE Eclipse project but it does take a lot of physical
memory. And you need to up the memory for your Java considerably.

I don't know what the situation is now. I actually did a build from Eclipse
but not with all the options used for a distribution, but I did a
customized "make" statement using the "build" command. I was just trying
this out and ended up abandoning it due to memory lockups.

Are you building trunk now with GCC? That might work better.

​


>
> The small perk is, that you can already navigate between separate module
> projects. For example I have connectivity and comphelper modules open as
> separate Eclipse projects, and when I Ctrl+click on a call like
> comphelper.disposeComponent() in a connectivity file, it opens the relevant
> definition in the comphelper project's file.
>
>
> > There is sadly no real alternative to eclipse today. I think intelliJ is
> > more stable and bit less resource hungry IDE. But they disqualified
> > themself since no c++ Multilanguage support.
> >
> >
> Eclipse's multi-language support isn't fantastic either. I had to create a
> separate Java project and then link in the Java files from the AOO module
> to it (eg. AOO-connectivity for C++ and AOO-connectivity-java for Java).
> IIRC Java files don't have their dependencies set, and can't be set since
> the project is seen as C++. The real problem may be that neither dmake nor
> gbuild do Java building using a common build tool (Ant, Maven, etc.), and
> IDEs can't parse their hacked makefiles. I am not sure how to fix that.
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> > Am 19. Juli 2017 08:41:27 MESZ schrieb ckalya...@gmail.com:
> > >I have extensively used visual studio for 5+ years as a pure C++
> > >developers. Even Eclipse is quite good and used it in my earlier
> > >android programming days although I find eclipse slower than visual
> > >studio. But I think both of them are excellent IDE and one can use any
> > >one of them.
> > >
> > >Thanks
> > >Kalyani
> > >
> > >Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > >> On Jul 18, 2017, at 11:35 PM, Damjan Jovanovic 
> > >wrote:
> > >>
> > >> What is so "very basic" about Eclipse? It's an excellent IDE, among
> > >the
> > >> best C++ IDEs I ever used, and the only IDE I use to develop AOO.
> > >>
> > >> I only used Visual Studio a little, and it seemed very good at the
> > >.NET
> > >> languages, but poor at C++. What does Visual Studio do, that Eclipse
> > >CDT
> > >> doesn't?
> > >>
> > >> Damjan
> > >>
> > >>> On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 8:18 AM, Peter kovacs 
> > >wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> There is no uniform answer, since one works as he like. I don't
> > >think we
> > >>> change the policy.
> > >>> However we have a guide for Eclipse on wiki. Which will give you a
> > >very
> > >>> basic IDE support.
> > >>> I would like to use intelliJ, but the IDE does not support java and
> > >C/C++
> > >>> at the same time. However a feature request has been made, and the
> > >creator
> > >>> company plans the support somewhere in the future.
> > >>> You could try qtcreator, but I do not know how much the IDE can be
> > >>> extended towards our needs.
> > >>>
> > >>> So I decided to hopp at Eclipse, since it has the best support
> > >today. I am
> > >>> thinking about a special IDE plugin. But I have not made much
> > >progress.
> > >>> Still bound to vi and command-line.
> > >>>
> > >>> Patricia is using 

Re: Eclipse vs other IDEs (was: Re: Ide for Open Office (was Building OO))

[Peter Kovacs]

Well, I like Google for its moon shot approach.  So I tend to copy that 
methodology.

I do have similar ambitious goals for Open Office. I am curious how far I get. 
Hope I get a lot of support for the ideas, including more ideas. :-D

I am frightend at the same time. :P

>the project is seen as C++. The real problem may be that neither dmake
>nor
>gbuild do Java building using a common build tool (Ant, Maven, etc.),
>and
>IDEs can't parse their hacked makefiles. I am not sure how to fix that.
I wonder why we do not extend ANT to build the c++ code. It should be possible 
to write an extension. And imho the coolest idea.

The next best idea is to extend the CDT parser in this direction. I don't care 
if it is difficult or not as long as the goal is a benefit. We do this for fun, 
yes?!


Am 19. Juli 2017 10:04:40 MESZ schrieb Damjan Jovanovic :
>On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 9:13 AM, Peter kovacs  wrote:
>
>> Damian,
>>
>> I think you got me wrong.
>> I am not saying Eclipse is bad.
>> I say the wiki guide will configure eclipse to a basic level. Basic
>means
>> you can navigate through code. Build elements.
>>
>> Complete integration would include
>> # have all in one project, instead of each module separated.
>> # have all modules available as subprojects
>> # be able to build in part or full from within Eclipse.
>> # package and signing within the IDE.
>> # auto update makefiles
>> # templates for extention development or modules, including our
>project
>> structures
>> # visual helper and architecture planing tools
>> # bugzilla support ( there is a plugin. Haven't tried yet)
>> # setup functionalities so it is easy to setup your work environment
>> # confluence integration for release management
>>
>>
>Those are ambitious goals. AFAIK most can't be done in an IDE even on
>newer
>smaller all-Java projects, like the Apache Commons projects.
>
>
>>
>> The only tool that I think is currently capable to provide the
>tooling is
>> eclipse.
>>
>> I am very far away. And not even at the basic support that the guide
>> promises. I try to jump at the complete picture. Especially the need
>to
>> chop all code into small pieces pisses me off.
>>
>>
>I agree. The wiki did say they managed to open all of AOO in one
>Eclipse
>project, but it took a lot of memory. I must try it some time.
>
>The small perk is, that you can already navigate between separate
>module
>projects. For example I have connectivity and comphelper modules open
>as
>separate Eclipse projects, and when I Ctrl+click on a call like
>comphelper.disposeComponent() in a connectivity file, it opens the
>relevant
>definition in the comphelper project's file.
>
>
>> There is sadly no real alternative to eclipse today. I think intelliJ
>is
>> more stable and bit less resource hungry IDE. But they disqualified
>> themself since no c++ Multilanguage support.
>>
>>
>Eclipse's multi-language support isn't fantastic either. I had to
>create a
>separate Java project and then link in the Java files from the AOO
>module
>to it (eg. AOO-connectivity for C++ and AOO-connectivity-java for
>Java).
>IIRC Java files don't have their dependencies set, and can't be set
>since
>the project is seen as C++. The real problem may be that neither dmake
>nor
>gbuild do Java building using a common build tool (Ant, Maven, etc.),
>and
>IDEs can't parse their hacked makefiles. I am not sure how to fix that.
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 19. Juli 2017 08:41:27 MESZ schrieb ckalya...@gmail.com:
>> >I have extensively used visual studio for 5+ years as a pure C++
>> >developers. Even Eclipse is quite good and used it in my earlier
>> >android programming days although I find eclipse slower than visual
>> >studio. But I think both of them are excellent IDE and one can use
>any
>> >one of them.
>> >
>> >Thanks
>> >Kalyani
>> >
>> >Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> >> On Jul 18, 2017, at 11:35 PM, Damjan Jovanovic 
>> >wrote:
>> >>
>> >> What is so "very basic" about Eclipse? It's an excellent IDE,
>among
>> >the
>> >> best C++ IDEs I ever used, and the only IDE I use to develop AOO.
>> >>
>> >> I only used Visual Studio a little, and it seemed very good at the
>> >.NET
>> >> languages, but poor at C++. What does Visual Studio do, that
>Eclipse
>> >CDT
>> >> doesn't?
>> >>
>> >> Damjan
>> >>
>> >>> On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 8:18 AM, Peter kovacs 
>> >wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> There is no uniform answer, since one works as he like. I don't
>> >think we
>> >>> change the policy.
>> >>> However we have a guide for Eclipse on wiki. Which will give you
>a
>> >very
>> >>> basic IDE support.
>> >>> I would like to use intelliJ, but the IDE does not support java
>and
>> >C/C++
>> >>> at the same time. However a feature request has been made, and
>the
>> >creator
>> >>> company plans the support somewhere in the future.
>> >>> You could try qtcreator, but I do not know how much the IDE can
>be
>> >>> extended towards our needs.
>> >>>
>> >>> So I 

Re: Eclipse vs other IDEs (was: Re: Ide for Open Office (was Building OO))

[Raphael Bircher]

Hi all

Long time ago, most IDE faild with the size of the OO Code. I also know,  
that XCode failed. But I think, Time has changed. We have more RAM now. In  
NetBeans you have probably to extend the RAM in the JVM. I never tryed it.  
but I think I will. It will be interesting for testing. And if something  
fail we have the direct connection to the NetBeans Community. (I  
monitoring this project since the start in the Incubator)


Regards, Raphael

Am .07.2017, 10:16 Uhr, schrieb Damjan Jovanovic :

About 5 years ago, when I tried to used Netbeans to open a large C  
project

(the Wine project, about 2 million lines), it was unusably slow, and its
C/C++ indexer crashed.

I don't know if it has improved since then, but we have 6 times more  
code,
and it's C++, not the much simpler C. Eclipse invested serious  
development
effort into its Eclipse CDT parser, even writing static analysis tools  
with

it and developing code refactoring. How good is Netbeans?

On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 9:58 AM, Fernando Cassia   
wrote:



On 7/19/17, Damjan Jovanovic  wrote:
> What is so "very basic" about Eclipse? It's an excellent IDE, among  
the

> best C++ IDEs I ever used, and the only IDE I use to develop AOO.
>
> I only used Visual Studio a little, and it seemed very good at the  
.NET
> languages, but poor at C++. What does Visual Studio do, that Eclipse  
CDT

> doesn't?

What does Eclipse do that Netbeans doesn't?

Just curious, thinking aloud...
;)

FC
PS: I'm seriously interested if anyone has succesfully used Netbeans
for working with AOO source..

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Re: Eclipse vs other IDEs (was: Re: Ide for Open Office (was Building OO))

[Damjan Jovanovic]

About 5 years ago, when I tried to used Netbeans to open a large C project
(the Wine project, about 2 million lines), it was unusably slow, and its
C/C++ indexer crashed.

I don't know if it has improved since then, but we have 6 times more code,
and it's C++, not the much simpler C. Eclipse invested serious development
effort into its Eclipse CDT parser, even writing static analysis tools with
it and developing code refactoring. How good is Netbeans?

On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 9:58 AM, Fernando Cassia  wrote:

> On 7/19/17, Damjan Jovanovic  wrote:
> > What is so "very basic" about Eclipse? It's an excellent IDE, among the
> > best C++ IDEs I ever used, and the only IDE I use to develop AOO.
> >
> > I only used Visual Studio a little, and it seemed very good at the .NET
> > languages, but poor at C++. What does Visual Studio do, that Eclipse CDT
> > doesn't?
>
> What does Eclipse do that Netbeans doesn't?
>
> Just curious, thinking aloud...
> ;)
>
> FC
> PS: I'm seriously interested if anyone has succesfully used Netbeans
> for working with AOO source..
>
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Re: Eclipse vs other IDEs (was: Re: Ide for Open Office (was Building OO))

[Damjan Jovanovic]

On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 9:13 AM, Peter kovacs  wrote:

> Damian,
>
> I think you got me wrong.
> I am not saying Eclipse is bad.
> I say the wiki guide will configure eclipse to a basic level. Basic means
> you can navigate through code. Build elements.
>
> Complete integration would include
> # have all in one project, instead of each module separated.
> # have all modules available as subprojects
> # be able to build in part or full from within Eclipse.
> # package and signing within the IDE.
> # auto update makefiles
> # templates for extention development or modules, including our project
> structures
> # visual helper and architecture planing tools
> # bugzilla support ( there is a plugin. Haven't tried yet)
> # setup functionalities so it is easy to setup your work environment
> # confluence integration for release management
>
>
Those are ambitious goals. AFAIK most can't be done in an IDE even on newer
smaller all-Java projects, like the Apache Commons projects.


>
> The only tool that I think is currently capable to provide the tooling is
> eclipse.
>
> I am very far away. And not even at the basic support that the guide
> promises. I try to jump at the complete picture. Especially the need to
> chop all code into small pieces pisses me off.
>
>
I agree. The wiki did say they managed to open all of AOO in one Eclipse
project, but it took a lot of memory. I must try it some time.

The small perk is, that you can already navigate between separate module
projects. For example I have connectivity and comphelper modules open as
separate Eclipse projects, and when I Ctrl+click on a call like
comphelper.disposeComponent() in a connectivity file, it opens the relevant
definition in the comphelper project's file.


> There is sadly no real alternative to eclipse today. I think intelliJ is
> more stable and bit less resource hungry IDE. But they disqualified
> themself since no c++ Multilanguage support.
>
>
Eclipse's multi-language support isn't fantastic either. I had to create a
separate Java project and then link in the Java files from the AOO module
to it (eg. AOO-connectivity for C++ and AOO-connectivity-java for Java).
IIRC Java files don't have their dependencies set, and can't be set since
the project is seen as C++. The real problem may be that neither dmake nor
gbuild do Java building using a common build tool (Ant, Maven, etc.), and
IDEs can't parse their hacked makefiles. I am not sure how to fix that.


>
>
>
> Am 19. Juli 2017 08:41:27 MESZ schrieb ckalya...@gmail.com:
> >I have extensively used visual studio for 5+ years as a pure C++
> >developers. Even Eclipse is quite good and used it in my earlier
> >android programming days although I find eclipse slower than visual
> >studio. But I think both of them are excellent IDE and one can use any
> >one of them.
> >
> >Thanks
> >Kalyani
> >
> >Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Jul 18, 2017, at 11:35 PM, Damjan Jovanovic 
> >wrote:
> >>
> >> What is so "very basic" about Eclipse? It's an excellent IDE, among
> >the
> >> best C++ IDEs I ever used, and the only IDE I use to develop AOO.
> >>
> >> I only used Visual Studio a little, and it seemed very good at the
> >.NET
> >> languages, but poor at C++. What does Visual Studio do, that Eclipse
> >CDT
> >> doesn't?
> >>
> >> Damjan
> >>
> >>> On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 8:18 AM, Peter kovacs 
> >wrote:
> >>>
> >>> There is no uniform answer, since one works as he like. I don't
> >think we
> >>> change the policy.
> >>> However we have a guide for Eclipse on wiki. Which will give you a
> >very
> >>> basic IDE support.
> >>> I would like to use intelliJ, but the IDE does not support java and
> >C/C++
> >>> at the same time. However a feature request has been made, and the
> >creator
> >>> company plans the support somewhere in the future.
> >>> You could try qtcreator, but I do not know how much the IDE can be
> >>> extended towards our needs.
> >>>
> >>> So I decided to hopp at Eclipse, since it has the best support
> >today. I am
> >>> thinking about a special IDE plugin. But I have not made much
> >progress.
> >>> Still bound to vi and command-line.
> >>>
> >>> Patricia is using Visual Studio on Windows I think. How is it
> >helping?
> >>>
> >>> All the best
> >>> Peter
> >>>
> >>> Am 19. Juli 2017 07:35:42 MESZ schrieb Yemelyanenko Fyodor <
> >>> fyodo...@hotmail.com>:
>  Yes, sure, I mean IDE
> 
>  -- Исходное сообщение --
>  От: "Peter Kovacs" 
>  Кому: dev@openoffice.apache.org
>  Отправлено: 19.07.2017 14:51:57
>  Тема: Re: Re[5]: Building OO
> 
> > Hello,
> >
> > Do you mean by dev environment an IDE?
> >
> > All the best
> > Peter
> >
> > Am 19. Juli 2017 02:50:48 MESZ schrieb Yemelyanenko Fyodor
> >  > mail.com>:
> >> Hello!
> >>
> >> I've switched to Ubuntu 14.04 mini with xubuntu-desktop and xrdp
> >> 

Re: Eclipse vs other IDEs (was: Re: Ide for Open Office (was Building OO))

[Fernando Cassia]

On 7/19/17, Damjan Jovanovic  wrote:
> What is so "very basic" about Eclipse? It's an excellent IDE, among the
> best C++ IDEs I ever used, and the only IDE I use to develop AOO.
>
> I only used Visual Studio a little, and it seemed very good at the .NET
> languages, but poor at C++. What does Visual Studio do, that Eclipse CDT
> doesn't?

What does Eclipse do that Netbeans doesn't?

Just curious, thinking aloud...
;)

FC
PS: I'm seriously interested if anyone has succesfully used Netbeans
for working with AOO source..

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Re: Eclipse vs other IDEs (was: Re: Ide for Open Office (was Building OO))

[Peter kovacs]

Damian,

I think you got me wrong.
I am not saying Eclipse is bad.
I say the wiki guide will configure eclipse to a basic level. Basic means you 
can navigate through code. Build elements.

Complete integration would include
# have all in one project, instead of each module separated.
# have all modules available as subprojects
# be able to build in part or full from within Eclipse.
# package and signing within the IDE.
# auto update makefiles
# templates for extention development or modules, including our project 
structures
# visual helper and architecture planing tools
# bugzilla support ( there is a plugin. Haven't tried yet)
# setup functionalities so it is easy to setup your work environment
# confluence integration for release management


The only tool that I think is currently capable to provide the tooling is 
eclipse.

I am very far away. And not even at the basic support that the guide promises. 
I try to jump at the complete picture. Especially the need to chop all code 
into small pieces pisses me off.

There is sadly no real alternative to eclipse today. I think intelliJ is more 
stable and bit less resource hungry IDE. But they disqualified themself since 
no c++ Multilanguage support.




Am 19. Juli 2017 08:41:27 MESZ schrieb ckalya...@gmail.com:
>I have extensively used visual studio for 5+ years as a pure C++
>developers. Even Eclipse is quite good and used it in my earlier
>android programming days although I find eclipse slower than visual
>studio. But I think both of them are excellent IDE and one can use any
>one of them.
>
>Thanks 
>Kalyani 
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 18, 2017, at 11:35 PM, Damjan Jovanovic 
>wrote:
>> 
>> What is so "very basic" about Eclipse? It's an excellent IDE, among
>the
>> best C++ IDEs I ever used, and the only IDE I use to develop AOO.
>> 
>> I only used Visual Studio a little, and it seemed very good at the
>.NET
>> languages, but poor at C++. What does Visual Studio do, that Eclipse
>CDT
>> doesn't?
>> 
>> Damjan
>> 
>>> On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 8:18 AM, Peter kovacs 
>wrote:
>>> 
>>> There is no uniform answer, since one works as he like. I don't
>think we
>>> change the policy.
>>> However we have a guide for Eclipse on wiki. Which will give you a
>very
>>> basic IDE support.
>>> I would like to use intelliJ, but the IDE does not support java and
>C/C++
>>> at the same time. However a feature request has been made, and the
>creator
>>> company plans the support somewhere in the future.
>>> You could try qtcreator, but I do not know how much the IDE can be
>>> extended towards our needs.
>>> 
>>> So I decided to hopp at Eclipse, since it has the best support
>today. I am
>>> thinking about a special IDE plugin. But I have not made much
>progress.
>>> Still bound to vi and command-line.
>>> 
>>> Patricia is using Visual Studio on Windows I think. How is it
>helping?
>>> 
>>> All the best
>>> Peter
>>> 
>>> Am 19. Juli 2017 07:35:42 MESZ schrieb Yemelyanenko Fyodor <
>>> fyodo...@hotmail.com>:
 Yes, sure, I mean IDE
 
 -- Исходное сообщение --
 От: "Peter Kovacs" 
 Кому: dev@openoffice.apache.org
 Отправлено: 19.07.2017 14:51:57
 Тема: Re: Re[5]: Building OO
 
> Hello,
> 
> Do you mean by dev environment an IDE?
> 
> All the best
> Peter
> 
> Am 19. Juli 2017 02:50:48 MESZ schrieb Yemelyanenko Fyodor
>  mail.com>:
>> Hello!
>> 
>> I've switched to Ubuntu 14.04 mini with xubuntu-desktop and xrdp
>> installed
>> And OO built successfully! :-)
>> 
>> Now trying to do the same on W7 x32.
>> 
>> As Id like to deep dive into OO development, could you please
>share
>> what dev environment do you use on Ubuntu and on W7 (I believe,
>that
>> I'll finally success in building OO on Windows).
>> Any thoughts on establishing dev environment will be appreciated.
>> 
>> --
>> Fyodor
>> 
>> -- Исходное сообщение --
>> От: "Емельяненко Федор"
>> >
>> Кому: "Damjan Jovanovic"
 >
>> Копия: "Apache OO"
>> >
>> Отправлено: 04.07.2017 12:57:52
>> Тема: Re[4]: Building OO
>> 
>> I use following config script
>> 
>> ./configure \
>>   --with-frame-home="$SDK_PATH" \
>>   --with-psdk-home="$SDK_PATH" \
>>   --with-midl-path="$SDK_PATH/bin" \
>>   --with-ant-home="/cygdrive/c/ant110/apache-ant-1.10.1" \
>>   --with-jdk-home="C:/PROGRA~2/Java/JDK18~1.0_1" \
>>   --with-csc-path="C:/Windows/Microsoft.NET/Framework/v3.5" \
>>   --with-cl-home="C:/PROGRA~2/MICROS~1.0/VC" \
>>   --with-asm-home="C:/PROGRA~2/MICROS~1.0/VC/bin" \
>> --with-dmake-url="https://sourceforge.net/projects/
>>> 

Re: Eclipse vs other IDEs (was: Re: Ide for Open Office (was Building OO))

[ckalyanii]

I have extensively used visual studio for 5+ years as a pure C++ developers. 
Even Eclipse is quite good and used it in my earlier android programming days 
although I find eclipse slower than visual studio. But I think both of them are 
excellent IDE and one can use any one of them.

Thanks 
Kalyani 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 18, 2017, at 11:35 PM, Damjan Jovanovic  wrote:
> 
> What is so "very basic" about Eclipse? It's an excellent IDE, among the
> best C++ IDEs I ever used, and the only IDE I use to develop AOO.
> 
> I only used Visual Studio a little, and it seemed very good at the .NET
> languages, but poor at C++. What does Visual Studio do, that Eclipse CDT
> doesn't?
> 
> Damjan
> 
>> On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 8:18 AM, Peter kovacs  wrote:
>> 
>> There is no uniform answer, since one works as he like. I don't think we
>> change the policy.
>> However we have a guide for Eclipse on wiki. Which will give you a very
>> basic IDE support.
>> I would like to use intelliJ, but the IDE does not support java and C/C++
>> at the same time. However a feature request has been made, and the creator
>> company plans the support somewhere in the future.
>> You could try qtcreator, but I do not know how much the IDE can be
>> extended towards our needs.
>> 
>> So I decided to hopp at Eclipse, since it has the best support today. I am
>> thinking about a special IDE plugin. But I have not made much progress.
>> Still bound to vi and command-line.
>> 
>> Patricia is using Visual Studio on Windows I think. How is it helping?
>> 
>> All the best
>> Peter
>> 
>> Am 19. Juli 2017 07:35:42 MESZ schrieb Yemelyanenko Fyodor <
>> fyodo...@hotmail.com>:
>>> Yes, sure, I mean IDE
>>> 
>>> -- Исходное сообщение --
>>> От: "Peter Kovacs" 
>>> Кому: dev@openoffice.apache.org
>>> Отправлено: 19.07.2017 14:51:57
>>> Тема: Re: Re[5]: Building OO
>>> 
 Hello,
 
 Do you mean by dev environment an IDE?
 
 All the best
 Peter
 
 Am 19. Juli 2017 02:50:48 MESZ schrieb Yemelyanenko Fyodor
 :
> Hello!
> 
> I've switched to Ubuntu 14.04 mini with xubuntu-desktop and xrdp
> installed
> And OO built successfully! :-)
> 
> Now trying to do the same on W7 x32.
> 
> As Id like to deep dive into OO development, could you please share
> what dev environment do you use on Ubuntu and on W7 (I believe, that
> I'll finally success in building OO on Windows).
> Any thoughts on establishing dev environment will be appreciated.
> 
> --
> Fyodor
> 
> -- Исходное сообщение --
> От: "Емельяненко Федор"
> >
> Кому: "Damjan Jovanovic"
>>> >
> Копия: "Apache OO"
> >
> Отправлено: 04.07.2017 12:57:52
> Тема: Re[4]: Building OO
> 
> I use following config script
> 
> ./configure \
>   --with-frame-home="$SDK_PATH" \
>   --with-psdk-home="$SDK_PATH" \
>   --with-midl-path="$SDK_PATH/bin" \
>   --with-ant-home="/cygdrive/c/ant110/apache-ant-1.10.1" \
>   --with-jdk-home="C:/PROGRA~2/Java/JDK18~1.0_1" \
>   --with-csc-path="C:/Windows/Microsoft.NET/Framework/v3.5" \
>   --with-cl-home="C:/PROGRA~2/MICROS~1.0/VC" \
>   --with-asm-home="C:/PROGRA~2/MICROS~1.0/VC/bin" \
> --with-dmake-url="https://sourceforge.net/projects/
>> oooextras.mirror/files/dmake-4.12.tar.bz2"
> \
> --with-epm-url="https://sourceforge.net/projects/
>> oooextras.mirror/files/epm-3.7.tar.gz"
> \
>   --disable-pch \
>   --disable-atl \
>   --disable-activex \
>   --disable-nss-module \
>   --without-junit \
>   --disable-directx
> 
> On Windows 8.1 64 bit Hyper-v VM
> 
> Full jdk path C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jdk1.8.0_131
> CL home C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio 9.0\VC
> Asm home C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio 9.0\VC\bin
> 
> I've tried to rebuild with following script (full path) with no
> success
> 
> ./configure \
>   --with-frame-home="$SDK_PATH" \
>   --with-psdk-home="$SDK_PATH" \
>   --with-midl-path="$SDK_PATH/bin" \
>   --with-ant-home="/cygdrive/c/ant110/apache-ant-1.10.1" \
>  --with-jdk-home="/cygdrive/c/Program Files
>>> (x86)/Java/jdk1.8.0_131"
> \
> 
>>> --with-csc-path="/cygdrive/c/Windows/Microsoft.NET/Framework/v3.5"
> \
> --with-cl-home="/cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/Microsoft Visual
> Studio
> 9.0/VC" \
> --with-asm-home="/cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/Microsoft Visual
> Studio 9.0/VC/bin" \
> --with-dmake-url="https://sourceforge.net/projects/
>> oooextras.mirror/files/dmake-4.12.tar.bz2"
> \
> --with-epm-url="https://sourceforge.net/projects/
>> 

Eclipse vs other IDEs (was: Re: Ide for Open Office (was Building OO))

[Damjan Jovanovic]

What is so "very basic" about Eclipse? It's an excellent IDE, among the
best C++ IDEs I ever used, and the only IDE I use to develop AOO.

I only used Visual Studio a little, and it seemed very good at the .NET
languages, but poor at C++. What does Visual Studio do, that Eclipse CDT
doesn't?

Damjan

On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 8:18 AM, Peter kovacs  wrote:

> There is no uniform answer, since one works as he like. I don't think we
> change the policy.
> However we have a guide for Eclipse on wiki. Which will give you a very
> basic IDE support.
> I would like to use intelliJ, but the IDE does not support java and C/C++
> at the same time. However a feature request has been made, and the creator
> company plans the support somewhere in the future.
> You could try qtcreator, but I do not know how much the IDE can be
> extended towards our needs.
>
> So I decided to hopp at Eclipse, since it has the best support today. I am
> thinking about a special IDE plugin. But I have not made much progress.
> Still bound to vi and command-line.
>
> Patricia is using Visual Studio on Windows I think. How is it helping?
>
> All the best
> Peter
>
> Am 19. Juli 2017 07:35:42 MESZ schrieb Yemelyanenko Fyodor <
> fyodo...@hotmail.com>:
> >Yes, sure, I mean IDE
> >
> >-- Исходное сообщение --
> >От: "Peter Kovacs" 
> >Кому: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> >Отправлено: 19.07.2017 14:51:57
> >Тема: Re: Re[5]: Building OO
> >
> >>Hello,
> >>
> >>Do you mean by dev environment an IDE?
> >>
> >>All the best
> >>Peter
> >>
> >>Am 19. Juli 2017 02:50:48 MESZ schrieb Yemelyanenko Fyodor
> >> >>mail.com>:
> >>>Hello!
> >>>
> >>>I've switched to Ubuntu 14.04 mini with xubuntu-desktop and xrdp
> >>>installed
> >>>And OO built successfully! :-)
> >>>
> >>>Now trying to do the same on W7 x32.
> >>>
> >>>As Id like to deep dive into OO development, could you please share
> >>>what dev environment do you use on Ubuntu and on W7 (I believe, that
> >>>I'll finally success in building OO on Windows).
> >>>Any thoughts on establishing dev environment will be appreciated.
> >>>
> >>>--
> >>>Fyodor
> >>>
> >>>-- Исходное сообщение --
> >>>От: "Емельяненко Федор"
> >>>>
> >>>Кому: "Damjan Jovanovic"
> >>
> >>>Копия: "Apache OO"
> >>>>
> >>>Отправлено: 04.07.2017 12:57:52
> >>>Тема: Re[4]: Building OO
> >>>
> >>>I use following config script
> >>>
> >>>./configure \
> >>>--with-frame-home="$SDK_PATH" \
> >>>--with-psdk-home="$SDK_PATH" \
> >>>--with-midl-path="$SDK_PATH/bin" \
> >>>--with-ant-home="/cygdrive/c/ant110/apache-ant-1.10.1" \
> >>>--with-jdk-home="C:/PROGRA~2/Java/JDK18~1.0_1" \
> >>>--with-csc-path="C:/Windows/Microsoft.NET/Framework/v3.5" \
> >>>--with-cl-home="C:/PROGRA~2/MICROS~1.0/VC" \
> >>>--with-asm-home="C:/PROGRA~2/MICROS~1.0/VC/bin" \
> >>>--with-dmake-url="https://sourceforge.net/projects/
> oooextras.mirror/files/dmake-4.12.tar.bz2"
> >>>\
> >>>--with-epm-url="https://sourceforge.net/projects/
> oooextras.mirror/files/epm-3.7.tar.gz"
> >>>\
> >>>--disable-pch \
> >>>--disable-atl \
> >>>--disable-activex \
> >>>--disable-nss-module \
> >>>--without-junit \
> >>>--disable-directx
> >>>
> >>>On Windows 8.1 64 bit Hyper-v VM
> >>>
> >>>Full jdk path C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jdk1.8.0_131
> >>>CL home C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio 9.0\VC
> >>>Asm home C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio 9.0\VC\bin
> >>>
> >>>I've tried to rebuild with following script (full path) with no
> >>>success
> >>>
> >>>./configure \
> >>>--with-frame-home="$SDK_PATH" \
> >>>--with-psdk-home="$SDK_PATH" \
> >>>--with-midl-path="$SDK_PATH/bin" \
> >>>--with-ant-home="/cygdrive/c/ant110/apache-ant-1.10.1" \
> >>>   --with-jdk-home="/cygdrive/c/Program Files
> >(x86)/Java/jdk1.8.0_131"
> >>>\
> >>>
> >--with-csc-path="/cygdrive/c/Windows/Microsoft.NET/Framework/v3.5"
> >>>\
> >>>--with-cl-home="/cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/Microsoft Visual
> >>>Studio
> >>>9.0/VC" \
> >>>--with-asm-home="/cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/Microsoft Visual
> >>>Studio 9.0/VC/bin" \
> >>>--with-dmake-url="https://sourceforge.net/projects/
> oooextras.mirror/files/dmake-4.12.tar.bz2"
> >>>\
> >>>--with-epm-url="https://sourceforge.net/projects/
> oooextras.mirror/files/epm-3.7.tar.gz"
> >>>\
> >>>--disable-pch \
> >>>--disable-atl \
> >>>--disable-activex \
> >>>--disable-nss-module \
> >>>--without-junit \
> >>>--disable-directx
> >>>
> >>>Now I have error on module gtest...
> >>>
> >>>dmake: Error code 2, while making
> >>>'./wntmsci12.pro/misc/build/so_built_oo_gtest'
> >>>
> >>>1 module(s):
> >>>gtest
> >>>need(s) to be rebuilt
> >>>
> >>>Reason(s):
> >>>
> >>>ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making
>