Re: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: About 20th anniversary plans]

2020-09-12 Thread Carl Marcum

+1 (binding) just in case..
not sure if this vote is still running)

Best regards,
Carl

On 9/8/20 1:10 PM, Pedro Lino wrote:

Hi Matthias, all


On 09/08/2020 3:11 PM Matthias Seidel  wrote:
I am still not sure what I should vote for/against?

The graphic (which one)? Or committing it to branch 418?

I call for a vote on the usage of this image
https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/about_20yrs.png

on the About dialog of version 4.1.8 (to be released during the 20th 
Anniversary celebration)

I propose that it is committed to branch 4.1.8 in location
main/default_images/introabout
to replace the current about.png

Regards,
Pedro

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Re: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: About 20th anniversary plans]

2020-09-10 Thread Dr. Michael Stehmann
+1 (binding, if that matters)

Kind regards
Michael

Am 08.09.20 um 19:10 schrieb Pedro Lino:
> Hi Matthias, all
> 
>> On 09/08/2020 3:11 PM Matthias Seidel  wrote:
> 
>> I am still not sure what I should vote for/against?
>>
>> The graphic (which one)? Or committing it to branch 418?
> 
> I call for a vote on the usage of this image
> https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/about_20yrs.png
> 
> on the About dialog of version 4.1.8 (to be released during the 20th 
> Anniversary celebration)
> 
> I propose that it is committed to branch 4.1.8 in location
> main/default_images/introabout
> to replace the current about.png
> 
> Regards,
> Pedro
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Re: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: About 20th anniversary plans]

2020-09-09 Thread Marcus

Am 08.09.20 um 19:10 schrieb Pedro Lino:

On 09/08/2020 3:11 PM Matthias Seidel  wrote:



I am still not sure what I should vote for/against?

The graphic (which one)? Or committing it to branch 418?


I call for a vote on the usage of this image
https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/about_20yrs.png

on the About dialog of version 4.1.8 (to be released during the 20th 
Anniversary celebration)

I propose that it is committed to branch 4.1.8 in location
main/default_images/introabout
to replace the current about.png


+1

Maybe Matthias has the time to delete the dash if it's really wrong.
If not then it's also OK for me.

Marcus


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Re: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: About 20th anniversary plans]

2020-09-09 Thread Dave Fisher
+1 - this logo fits the current layout of the About box and can be properly 
adapted for the Startup Screen.

Personally I prefer “open source” to “open-source”, but I don’t care to disrupt.

A three line version would be:
free and 
open-source
for 20 years

Regards,
Dave

> On Sep 9, 2020, at 11:51 AM, Mechtilde  wrote:
> 
> +1 for all points (binding)
> 
> Am 08.09.20 um 19:10 schrieb Pedro Lino:
>> Hi Matthias, all
>> 
>>> On 09/08/2020 3:11 PM Matthias Seidel  wrote:
>> 
>>> I am still not sure what I should vote for/against?
>>> 
>>> The graphic (which one)? Or committing it to branch 418?
>> 
>> I call for a vote on the usage of this image
>> https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/about_20yrs.png
>> 
>> on the About dialog of version 4.1.8 (to be released during the 20th 
>> Anniversary celebration)
>> 
>> I propose that it is committed to branch 4.1.8 in location
>> main/default_images/introabout
>> to replace the current about.png
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Pedro
>> 
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RE: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: About 20th anniversary plans]

2020-09-09 Thread Jörg Schmidt
> -Original Message-
> From: Mechtilde [mailto:o...@mechtilde.de] 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2020 8:52 PM
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: 
> About 20th anniversary plans]
> 
> +1 for all points (binding)

You think this is a vote for PMC members? Or what else do you want to express 
_at this point_ with "binding"?

I think we are here, in this specific case, in a vote where all votes have the 
same weight.

Yes, I think that this remark is necessary, because it would be possible to 
insist on "binding", but this was not announced and should not be done during 
the vote.



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Re: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: About 20th anniversary plans]

2020-09-09 Thread Mechtilde
+1 for all points (binding)

Am 08.09.20 um 19:10 schrieb Pedro Lino:
> Hi Matthias, all
> 
>> On 09/08/2020 3:11 PM Matthias Seidel  wrote:
> 
>> I am still not sure what I should vote for/against?
>>
>> The graphic (which one)? Or committing it to branch 418?
> 
> I call for a vote on the usage of this image
> https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/about_20yrs.png
> 
> on the About dialog of version 4.1.8 (to be released during the 20th 
> Anniversary celebration)
> 
> I propose that it is committed to branch 4.1.8 in location
> main/default_images/introabout
> to replace the current about.png
> 
> Regards,
> Pedro
> 
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RE: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: About 20th anniversary plans]

2020-09-09 Thread Jörg Schmidt


Due to some current statements of Mathias in the thread "Proposals" I want to 
change my vote from +-0 to:

-0.9



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Proposals (was: Re: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: About 20th anniversary plans])

2020-09-09 Thread Matthias Seidel
Hi,

Please do not hijack a VOTE.

You can answer +1, abstain or -1 (giving your reason)

Proposals could (and should) have been made months ago.

Even "open source" vs. "open-source" has already been discussed in June.

And to answer Czesław: The font is of course "Source Sans Pro", not "Arial".

Regards,

   Matthias

Am 09.09.20 um 11:33 schrieb Bidouille:
> Another suggestion:
> https://www.cjoint.com/doc/20_09/JIjjGPLiU5s_about-20yrs.png
>
> - Mail original -
>> De: "Jörg Schmidt" 
>> À: dev@openoffice.apache.org
>> Envoyé: Mercredi 9 Septembre 2020 08:24:44
>> Objet: RE: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: About 20th 
>> anniversary plans]
>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Pedro Lino [mailto:pedro.l...@mailbox.org]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2020 7:10 PM
>>> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
>>> Subject: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re:
>>> About 20th anniversary plans]
>>>
>>> Hi Matthias, all
>>>
>>>> On 09/08/2020 3:11 PM Matthias Seidel
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am still not sure what I should vote for/against?
>>>>
>>>> The graphic (which one)? Or committing it to branch 418?
>>> I call for a vote on the usage of this image
>>> https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/about_20yrs.png
>> +-0
>>
>> Sorry, but I don't like the picture optically, but unfortunately I am
>> not a graphics expert to improve it.
>>
>> I would also like to point out that "open-source" might be "open
>> source" (as in : "Open Source Initiative -
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Source_Initiative;) should be
>> called "open source", because this is about English and not German).
>> Also the ASF itself normally writes "open source", see for example
>> https://www.apache.org/ or
>> http://www.apache.org/theapacheway/index.html
>>
>>
>>
>> Jörg
>>
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Re: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: About 20th anniversary plans]

2020-09-09 Thread Matthias Seidel
Hi Pedro,

See below

Am 08.09.20 um 19:10 schrieb Pedro Lino:
> Hi Matthias, all
>
>> On 09/08/2020 3:11 PM Matthias Seidel  wrote:
>> I am still not sure what I should vote for/against?
>>
>> The graphic (which one)? Or committing it to branch 418?
> I call for a vote on the usage of this image
> https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/about_20yrs.png
>
> on the About dialog of version 4.1.8 (to be released during the 20th 
> Anniversary celebration)
>
> I propose that it is committed to branch 4.1.8 in location
> main/default_images/introabout
> to replace the current about.png

+1

Regards,

   Matthias

>
> Regards,
> Pedro
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RE: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: About 20th anniversary plans]

2020-09-09 Thread Jörg Schmidt
> -Original Message-
> From: Bidouille [mailto:ooofo...@free.fr] 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2020 2:48 PM
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: 
> About 20th anniversary plans]
> 
> > If there is still time for suggestions, here is mine:
> > http://calc-info.de/files/AOO_20years.png
> 
> For me, if a sentence must be used, it should be translated 
> for localized version.
> So, I think a logotype is better.

first of all: I don't know if my suggestion is better, in any case I did _not_ 
say so.

But I find your reasoning unlogical, because: why should it be a question of _a 
sentence_?
Either it's a question of a general translation, in which case the logo should 
only contain a "20" (and not "20 years"), or it's not a question of translation.

(Yes, I am of the opinion that "20" alone is _not_ to be misunderstood.)


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RE: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: About 20th anniversary plans]

2020-09-09 Thread Jörg Schmidt
 

> -Original Message-
> From: Rory O'Farrell [mailto:ofarr...@iol.ie] 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2020 2:31 PM
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: 
> About 20th anniversary plans]

> > Maybe the spelling would be too:
> > 
> > "Open. For all. Since 20 years"
> 
> In terms of better English grammar and punctuation, it should be
> 
> Open, for all, for 20 years.

Absolutely correct, only less advertising psychologically.

Not without reason I had pointed out the missing point (in: "Since 20 years") 
and I hope that you believe me that I know that the grammar was formally wrong.



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Re: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: About 20th anniversary plans]

2020-09-09 Thread Bidouille
> If there is still time for suggestions, here is mine:
> http://calc-info.de/files/AOO_20years.png

For me, if a sentence must be used, it should be translated for localized 
version.
So, I think a logotype is better.


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Re: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: About 20th anniversary plans]

2020-09-09 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Wed, 9 Sep 2020 13:56:56 +0200
Jörg Schmidt  wrote:

> Hello Czesław, *,
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Czesław Wolański [mailto:czeslaw.wolan...@gmail.com] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2020 1:11 PM
> > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: 
> > About 20th anniversary plans]
> > 
> > Hi Jörg, all
> > 
> > > If there is still time for suggestions, here is mine:
> > >
> > > http://calc-info.de/files/AOO_20years.png
> > 
> > Just a little variation on the theme "Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8"
> > based upon your suggestion (and minor/cosmetic alteration on my part).
> > 
> > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UPed2jyIhHEp9ST49q0uNgqFDWJsN
> > L1s/view?usp=sharing
> 
> In my opinion, the proposal with the text to the right of the existing logo 
> looks similarly unfavorable as the original proposal (i mean: 
> https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/about_20yrs.png)
> 
> > BTW:
> > What font is used for: "Open for all / since 20 years"?
> 
> Arial italic
> 
> 
> 
> I still don't feel my own proposal is optimal, although I had already varied 
> a lot.
> It is important to find an optimum between content and design of the text and 
> the use of elements of the actual logo.
> 
> e.g. I first tried to write "Open" and "20 years" in blue and "for all since" 
> in dark grey, but that seemed to distort the content.
> 
> Maybe the spelling would be too:
> 
> "Open. For all. Since 20 years"

In terms of better English grammar and punctuation, it should be

Open, for all, for 20 years.

or better yet

Open for all, for 20 years.


Rory



> (at the end, without dot)
> 
> feasible, because in the de-OOo-Community we (i think it was Eric H.) once 
> invented a very public slogan :
> 
> "Open. For Business"
> (at the end, without dot)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Jörg
> 
> 
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RE: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: About 20th anniversary plans]

2020-09-09 Thread Jörg Schmidt
Hello Czesław, *,

> -Original Message-
> From: Czesław Wolański [mailto:czeslaw.wolan...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2020 1:11 PM
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: 
> About 20th anniversary plans]
> 
> Hi Jörg, all
> 
> > If there is still time for suggestions, here is mine:
> >
> > http://calc-info.de/files/AOO_20years.png
> 
> Just a little variation on the theme "Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8"
> based upon your suggestion (and minor/cosmetic alteration on my part).
> 
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UPed2jyIhHEp9ST49q0uNgqFDWJsN
> L1s/view?usp=sharing

In my opinion, the proposal with the text to the right of the existing logo 
looks similarly unfavorable as the original proposal (i mean: 
https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/about_20yrs.png)

> BTW:
> What font is used for: "Open for all / since 20 years"?

Arial italic



I still don't feel my own proposal is optimal, although I had already varied a 
lot.
It is important to find an optimum between content and design of the text and 
the use of elements of the actual logo.

e.g. I first tried to write "Open" and "20 years" in blue and "for all since" 
in dark grey, but that seemed to distort the content.

Maybe the spelling would be too:

"Open. For all. Since 20 years"
(at the end, without dot)

feasible, because in the de-OOo-Community we (i think it was Eric H.) once 
invented a very public slogan :

"Open. For Business"
(at the end, without dot)




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Re: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: About 20th anniversary plans]

2020-09-09 Thread Czesław Wolański
Hi Jörg, all

> If there is still time for suggestions, here is mine:
>
> http://calc-info.de/files/AOO_20years.png

Just a little variation on the theme "Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8"
based upon your suggestion (and minor/cosmetic alteration on my part).

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UPed2jyIhHEp9ST49q0uNgqFDWJsNL1s/view?usp=sharing


BTW:
What font is used for: "Open for all / since 20 years"?


Regards,

Czesław

ср, 9 сент. 2020 г. в 12:22, Jörg Schmidt :

> > -Original Message-
> > From: Bidouille [mailto:ooofo...@free.fr]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2020 11:34 AM
> > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re:
> > About 20th anniversary plans]
> >
> > Another suggestion:
> > https://www.cjoint.com/doc/20_09/JIjjGPLiU5s_about-20yrs.png
>
> If there is still time for suggestions, here is mine:
>
> http://calc-info.de/files/AOO_20years.png
>
>
>
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RE: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: About 20th anniversary plans]

2020-09-09 Thread Jörg Schmidt
> -Original Message-
> From: Bidouille [mailto:ooofo...@free.fr] 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2020 11:34 AM
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: 
> About 20th anniversary plans]
> 
> Another suggestion:
> https://www.cjoint.com/doc/20_09/JIjjGPLiU5s_about-20yrs.png

If there is still time for suggestions, here is mine:

http://calc-info.de/files/AOO_20years.png



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Re: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: About 20th anniversary plans]

2020-09-09 Thread Bidouille
Another suggestion:
https://www.cjoint.com/doc/20_09/JIjjGPLiU5s_about-20yrs.png

- Mail original -
> De: "Jörg Schmidt" 
> À: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Envoyé: Mercredi 9 Septembre 2020 08:24:44
> Objet: RE: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: About 20th 
> anniversary plans]
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Pedro Lino [mailto:pedro.l...@mailbox.org]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2020 7:10 PM
> > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> > Subject: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re:
> > About 20th anniversary plans]
> > 
> > Hi Matthias, all
> > 
> > > On 09/08/2020 3:11 PM Matthias Seidel
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > > I am still not sure what I should vote for/against?
> > > 
> > > The graphic (which one)? Or committing it to branch 418?
> > 
> > I call for a vote on the usage of this image
> > https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/about_20yrs.png
> 
> +-0
> 
> Sorry, but I don't like the picture optically, but unfortunately I am
> not a graphics expert to improve it.
> 
> I would also like to point out that "open-source" might be "open
> source" (as in : "Open Source Initiative -
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Source_Initiative;) should be
> called "open source", because this is about English and not German).
> Also the ASF itself normally writes "open source", see for example
> https://www.apache.org/ or
> http://www.apache.org/theapacheway/index.html
> 
> 
> 
> Jörg
> 
> 
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RE: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: About 20th anniversary plans]

2020-09-09 Thread Jörg Schmidt
> -Original Message-
> From: Pedro Lino [mailto:pedro.l...@mailbox.org] 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2020 7:10 PM
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: 
> About 20th anniversary plans]
> 
> Hi Matthias, all
> 
> > On 09/08/2020 3:11 PM Matthias Seidel 
>  wrote:
> 
> > I am still not sure what I should vote for/against?
> > 
> > The graphic (which one)? Or committing it to branch 418?
> 
> I call for a vote on the usage of this image
> https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/about_20yrs.png

+-0

Sorry, but I don't like the picture optically, but unfortunately I am not a 
graphics expert to improve it.

I would also like to point out that "open-source" might be "open source" (as in 
: "Open Source Initiative - 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Source_Initiative;) should be called "open 
source", because this is about English and not German).
Also the ASF itself normally writes "open source", see for example 
https://www.apache.org/ or http://www.apache.org/theapacheway/index.html



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