Re: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft Store on Windows 10
On 01.12.21 11:35, Jörg Schmidt wrote: -Original Message- From: Peter Kovacs [mailto:pe...@apache.org] Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2021 8:20 AM To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft Store on Windows 10 I have no Idea what you want, except that you are in a rage. Please focus on the Microsoft Shop. What Issues do you have? I do not work for MS, but I am a committer of the ASF and focus on AOO and not on MS shops. Are you against publishing on the shop? no Great! Or is the issue more that you weren't included in the process? Yes, that's what I mean - more specifically, that I don't understand why there hasn't been a thorough public discussion on such an issue. (Again, I may be overlooking something, but where is this discussion?) Okay, all are in favor for publishing Apache OpenOffice on Microsoft Shop. Everyone has expressed a positive attitude. No one said he had any issues with it. So I do not see any worth in that if we had done a discussion. We do not need to take any action to fix anything. Please understand that I am not technically against AOO now being available in the MS store, but I am criticising the fact that we do not communicate enough. Meritocracy is one thing, but in projects as big as ours, there are things that should not just be done, but should be discussed in advance with everyone involved - a bit of democracy within meritocracy. (I also don't think that such criticism is unreasonable, because the mere formality that we also have places where "votes" are obligatory shows that there is already democracy within the meritocracy.) What is with the formal release vote? For me that is total sufficient. And we documented all voices [1]. I am not able to follow what you want. [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.11 So I finalize: You have no objections on the Release of Apache OpenOffice on Microsoft store. And we have the requested democratic Vote. Where everyone can vote on and is acknowledged. For me all possible concerns and demands are fulfilled. -- This is the Way! http://www.apache.org/theapacheway/index.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
RE: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft Store on Windows 10
> -Original Message- > From: Peter Kovacs [mailto:pe...@apache.org] > Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2021 8:20 AM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft > Store on Windows 10 > I have no Idea what you want, except that you are in a rage. > > Please focus on the Microsoft Shop. What Issues do you have? I do not work for MS, but I am a committer of the ASF and focus on AOO and not on MS shops. > Are you > against publishing on the shop? no > Or is the issue more that you weren't > included in the process? Yes, that's what I mean - more specifically, that I don't understand why there hasn't been a thorough public discussion on such an issue. (Again, I may be overlooking something, but where is this discussion?) Please understand that I am not technically against AOO now being available in the MS store, but I am criticising the fact that we do not communicate enough. Meritocracy is one thing, but in projects as big as ours, there are things that should not just be done, but should be discussed in advance with everyone involved - a bit of democracy within meritocracy. (I also don't think that such criticism is unreasonable, because the mere formality that we also have places where "votes" are obligatory shows that there is already democracy within the meritocracy.) Jörg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft Store on Windows 10
Am 26.11.21 um 19:04 schrieb Jörg Schmidt: -Original Message- From: Peter Kovacs [mailto:pe...@apache.org] Sent: Friday, November 26, 2021 5:27 PM To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft Store on Windows 10 What do you want to discuss? Please do so. Make your case. I do not see it. It is a pity that you now seem to want to portray the release process (which is actually well regulated) as something where everyone can do 'their thing' individually. I still clearly remember the criticism I met from you when I only announced that I wanted to change the release notes afterwards. What I have always seen is that even in a meritocratic project, every active project-member has a right to have a say in all centrally important things and it would somehow be appropriate for a free project if such things were discussed together in advance. I have no Idea what you want, except that you are in a rage. Please focus on the Microsoft Shop. What Issues do you have? Are you against publishing on the shop? Or is the issue more that you weren't included in the process? At least I don't get it. Seriously. All the best Peter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft Store on Windows 10
Hi Pedro, Am 26.11.21 um 20:10 schrieb Pedro Lino: > Hi Matthias > >> On 11/26/2021 6:39 PM Matthias Seidel wrote: >> Another note: >> >> With the new store you need a Microsoft account even if you want to >> install a free app... >> >> BUT: This is not the case for classical programs like Apache OpenOffice! ;-) > That is actually good news for OpenOffice users! Will they be notified of new > versions through the MS Store? (it is not really relevant if the AOO update > check works) Unfortunately not. But maybe we should have a look if we can modify our update notification somehow. > > I really think that it should not be necessary to be a registered user to > install programs. But Microsoft is clearly following the Google's Android > model where everything is connected to the user account (which is positive in > some points, but it is not so good for privacy...) Yes, Windows 11 goes in that direction and the new store was backported to Window 10. BTW: Wait for the UI redesign of MS Office (2016 and 2019)! That will look a lot like Windows 11... Regards, Matthias > > It seems that if you don't want to be profiled, you really need to stick to > Linux/BSD > > Regards, > Pedro > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft Store on Windows 10
Hi Matthias > On 11/26/2021 6:39 PM Matthias Seidel wrote: > Another note: > > With the new store you need a Microsoft account even if you want to > install a free app... > > BUT: This is not the case for classical programs like Apache OpenOffice! ;-) That is actually good news for OpenOffice users! Will they be notified of new versions through the MS Store? (it is not really relevant if the AOO update check works) I really think that it should not be necessary to be a registered user to install programs. But Microsoft is clearly following the Google's Android model where everything is connected to the user account (which is positive in some points, but it is not so good for privacy...) It seems that if you don't want to be profiled, you really need to stick to Linux/BSD Regards, Pedro - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft Store on Windows 10
Hi Pedro, all, Am 25.11.21 um 12:23 schrieb Pedro Lino: > Hi Matthias > >> On 11/24/2021 11:50 PM Matthias Seidel wrote: >> Are they illegal? I am not a lawyer... They need to adjust some (a lot of) >> things, but that has to be worked on. > They are illegally using the OpenOffice name so they have to be removed. Of > course they can rebrand it and that would be legal but it would no longer > show on a search for OpenOffice! > >>> On a positive note, "our" Apache OpenOffice does show up on the Portuguese >>> Microsoft Store app (using Windows 10 Pro 21H2) as the first option! >>> https://i.imgur.com/rdqewTK.png >> That looks great! Did you try to install? > I did install it and it worked perfectly! In addition on another Windows 10 > Pro machine that already had AOO 4.1.10 installed in the traditional way when > I installed AOO 4.1.11 through the Store, it correctly updated AOO. > > This is excellent! Another note: With the new store you need a Microsoft account even if you want to install a free app... BUT: This is not the case for classical programs like Apache OpenOffice! ;-) Regards, Matthias > > Regards, > Pedro > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft Store on Windows 10
Hi Peter, We all know that every person that wants to see how the release process goes forward can do that *easily*: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.11 Some people are just not interested. And some even don't read the Release Notes... ;-) Regards, Matthias Am 26.11.21 um 17:26 schrieb Peter Kovacs: > > On 26.11.21 10:56, Jörg Schmidt wrote: >>> -Original Message- >>> From: David Robley [mailto:da...@robley.net.au] >>> Sent: Friday, November 26, 2021 10:33 AM >>> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org >>> Subject: Re: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft >>> Store on Windows 10 >>> >>> Perhaps >>> https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/announcing-apache-openoffic >>> e-4-17 ?? >> Thank you for this link. >> >> Nevertheless, I am a little surprised that something is happening >> here that I would count as part of the release process (which imho >> follows formal rules), which apparently(?) was never discussed >> _publicly_ in advance. > > What do you want to discuss? Please do so. Make your case. I do not > see it. > smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
RE: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft Store on Windows 10
> -Original Message- > From: Peter Kovacs [mailto:pe...@apache.org] > Sent: Friday, November 26, 2021 5:27 PM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft > Store on Windows 10 > What do you want to discuss? Please do so. Make your case. I > do not see it. It is a pity that you now seem to want to portray the release process (which is actually well regulated) as something where everyone can do 'their thing' individually. I still clearly remember the criticism I met from you when I only announced that I wanted to change the release notes afterwards. What I have always seen is that even in a meritocratic project, every active project-member has a right to have a say in all centrally important things and it would somehow be appropriate for a free project if such things were discussed together in advance. Jörg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft Store on Windows 10
Hi Peter, Am 26.11.21 um 17:27 schrieb Peter Kovacs: > French was requested on Facebook. I will ask if he sees it. Thanks! > > On 26.11.21 15:43, Matthias Seidel wrote: >> Hi Pedro, all, >> >> I almost forgot: >> >> French Store Listing is translated and online now (Thanks Bidouille!). >> I also have a volunteer for Spanish. >> >> With the wider availability of the "new" Microsoft Store on Windows 10 >> and positive feedback (slowly) coming in I think we should update the >> Release Notes. I will do that for en-US later, translators can then >> pick up. >> >> Regards, >> >> Matthias >> >> Am 19.11.21 um 18:14 schrieb Pedro Lino: On 11/19/2021 4:47 PM Bidouille wrote: A french version will be great. >>> Indeed! >>> And a Spanish version also... It is the 4th spoken language worlwide >>> and the 2nd by native speakers. Any Spanish volunteers? >>> >>> Regards, >>> Pedro >>> >>> - >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >>> smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft Store on Windows 10
French was requested on Facebook. I will ask if he sees it. On 26.11.21 15:43, Matthias Seidel wrote: Hi Pedro, all, I almost forgot: French Store Listing is translated and online now (Thanks Bidouille!). I also have a volunteer for Spanish. With the wider availability of the "new" Microsoft Store on Windows 10 and positive feedback (slowly) coming in I think we should update the Release Notes. I will do that for en-US later, translators can then pick up. Regards, Matthias Am 19.11.21 um 18:14 schrieb Pedro Lino: On 11/19/2021 4:47 PM Bidouille wrote: A french version will be great. Indeed! And a Spanish version also... It is the 4th spoken language worlwide and the 2nd by native speakers. Any Spanish volunteers? Regards, Pedro - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- This is the Way! http://www.apache.org/theapacheway/index.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft Store on Windows 10
On 26.11.21 10:56, Jörg Schmidt wrote: -Original Message- From: David Robley [mailto:da...@robley.net.au] Sent: Friday, November 26, 2021 10:33 AM To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft Store on Windows 10 Perhaps https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/announcing-apache-openoffic e-4-17 ?? Thank you for this link. Nevertheless, I am a little surprised that something is happening here that I would count as part of the release process (which imho follows formal rules), which apparently(?) was never discussed _publicly_ in advance. What do you want to discuss? Please do so. Make your case. I do not see it. -- This is the Way! http://www.apache.org/theapacheway/index.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft Store on Windows 10
Hi Pedro, all, I almost forgot: French Store Listing is translated and online now (Thanks Bidouille!). I also have a volunteer for Spanish. With the wider availability of the "new" Microsoft Store on Windows 10 and positive feedback (slowly) coming in I think we should update the Release Notes. I will do that for en-US later, translators can then pick up. Regards, Matthias Am 19.11.21 um 18:14 schrieb Pedro Lino: >> On 11/19/2021 4:47 PM Bidouille wrote: >> A french version will be great. > Indeed! > And a Spanish version also... It is the 4th spoken language worlwide and the > 2nd by native speakers. Any Spanish volunteers? > > Regards, > Pedro > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
RE: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft Store on Windows 10
> -Original Message- > From: David Robley [mailto:da...@robley.net.au] > Sent: Friday, November 26, 2021 10:33 AM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft > Store on Windows 10 > > Perhaps > https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/announcing-apache-openoffic > e-4-17 ?? Thank you for this link. Nevertheless, I am a little surprised that something is happening here that I would count as part of the release process (which imho follows formal rules), which apparently(?) was never discussed _publicly_ in advance. I think the whole thing is not insignificant and I think it would be appropriate if the PMC had informed about it. Jörg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft Store on Windows 10
Perhaps https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/announcing-apache-openoffice-4-17 ?? On 26/11/21 7:51 pm, Jörg Schmidt wrote: Why are such announcements made by an individual? Why is there no information from the PMC? Why no press release? Why was there no discussion in the community? Or, am I overlooking something? From: Matthias Seidel [mailto:matthias.sei...@hamburg.de] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2021 9:51 PM To: dev@openoffice.apache.org; us...@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft Store on Windows 10 Hi all, Apache OpenOffice has already been available in the new Microsoft Store on Windows 11 since October. With the latest App update, the new store is also coming to Windows 10. Users can now install the latest OpenOffice version with a single click! The Store Listings are localized in English, German, Italian, Polish and Portuguese. Feel free to contact me if you want to add more languages or if you have any questions. Regards, Matthias - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org Cheers -- David Robley The days of the digital watch are numbered - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
RE: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft Store on Windows 10
Why are such announcements made by an individual? Why is there no information from the PMC? Why no press release? Why was there no discussion in the community? Or, am I overlooking something? From: Matthias Seidel [mailto:matthias.sei...@hamburg.de] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2021 9:51 PM To: dev@openoffice.apache.org; us...@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft Store on Windows 10 Hi all, Apache OpenOffice has already been available in the new Microsoft Store on Windows 11 since October. With the latest App update, the new store is also coming to Windows 10. Users can now install the latest OpenOffice version with a single click! The Store Listings are localized in English, German, Italian, Polish and Portuguese. Feel free to contact me if you want to add more languages or if you have any questions. Regards, Matthias - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft Store on Windows 10
Hi Pedro, Am 25.11.21 um 12:23 schrieb Pedro Lino: > Hi Matthias > >> On 11/24/2021 11:50 PM Matthias Seidel wrote: >> Are they illegal? I am not a lawyer... They need to adjust some (a lot of) >> things, but that has to be worked on. > They are illegally using the OpenOffice name so they have to be removed. Of > course they can rebrand it and that would be legal but it would no longer > show on a search for OpenOffice! Did you download (pay) and install them? ;-) If the installed binaries are unchanged that may still be a trademark problem. Of course, we do need to get in contact with them (MS also wants that cleaned) and work that out. BTW: You can report an app to MS via the Store if you think something is not OK. > >>> On a positive note, "our" Apache OpenOffice does show up on the Portuguese >>> Microsoft Store app (using Windows 10 Pro 21H2) as the first option! >>> https://i.imgur.com/rdqewTK.png >> That looks great! Did you try to install? > I did install it and it worked perfectly! In addition on another Windows 10 > Pro machine that already had AOO 4.1.10 installed in the traditional way when > I installed AOO 4.1.11 through the Store, it correctly updated AOO. > > This is excellent! Yes, that is how it should work! ;-) Thanks for the feedback. My impression is that the MS Store is still under heavy development. And there is always place for improvements. Regards, Matthias > > Regards, > Pedro > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft Store on Windows 10
Hi Matthias > On 11/24/2021 11:50 PM Matthias Seidel wrote: >Are they illegal? I am not a lawyer... They need to adjust some (a lot of) >things, but that has to be worked on. They are illegally using the OpenOffice name so they have to be removed. Of course they can rebrand it and that would be legal but it would no longer show on a search for OpenOffice! > > On a positive note, "our" Apache OpenOffice does show up on the Portuguese > > Microsoft Store app (using Windows 10 Pro 21H2) as the first option! > > https://i.imgur.com/rdqewTK.png > > That looks great! Did you try to install? I did install it and it worked perfectly! In addition on another Windows 10 Pro machine that already had AOO 4.1.10 installed in the traditional way when I installed AOO 4.1.11 through the Store, it correctly updated AOO. This is excellent! Regards, Pedro - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft Store on Windows 10
Hi Pedro, Am 25.11.21 um 00:36 schrieb Pedro Lino: > Hi Matthias > >> On 11/24/2021 4:43 PM Matthias Seidel wrote: >> And as I understand it, the "classical" Windows apps in the Microsoft >> Store will not show up on the Internet... > Then why do the illegal copies of those same "classical" apps that some > smart-ass companies are trying to sell do show up on the Internet store? Are they illegal? I am not a lawyer... They need to adjust some (a lot of) things, but that has to be worked on. And these are NOT cĺassical apps, this is something repackaged for the Microsoft Store. Classical Apps came with the "new" MS Store to Windows 11 and Windows 10. BUT: We now have Apache OpenOffice available and people can choose to pay for repackaged software or get the most recent original version just for free. > > This is obviously not a criticism to you! I only accept positive criticism! ;-) > > On a positive note, "our" Apache OpenOffice does show up on the Portuguese > Microsoft Store app (using Windows 10 Pro 21H2) as the first option! > https://i.imgur.com/rdqewTK.png That looks great! Did you try to install? Regards, Matthias > > Regards, > Pedro > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft Store on Windows 10
Hi Matthias > On 11/24/2021 4:43 PM Matthias Seidel wrote: > And as I understand it, the "classical" Windows apps in the Microsoft > Store will not show up on the Internet... Then why do the illegal copies of those same "classical" apps that some smart-ass companies are trying to sell do show up on the Internet store? This is obviously not a criticism to you! On a positive note, "our" Apache OpenOffice does show up on the Portuguese Microsoft Store app (using Windows 10 Pro 21H2) as the first option! https://i.imgur.com/rdqewTK.png Regards, Pedro - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft Store on Windows 10
Again, this is about the Windows Store App on Windows 10/11. You will not find it on the internet, no need to try it... ;-) Am 24.11.21 um 18:16 schrieb Benjamen Meyer: > https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/search/shop/Apps?q=Apache%20OpenOffice > > for me, shows 3 versions: > OpenOffice Suite by Repackager Express) > January 2019 > $69.99 USD marked down to $9.99 USD > Implies correct copyright (Open Office Collaborators), but lists the > GPL license under additional terms > > OpenOffice Windows Store Version (winuwp) > July 2020 > $9.99 USD > Copyright lists the ASF and mentions the Apache License v2.0 > > Open Office Store Edition (muzzumoh) > June 2020 > $4.99 USD > Per the page does not seem to properly list the license or copyright > > No clue which is the right one to recommend (I don't use Windows Store > at all; not even Windows). Based on copyright/licensing hte winuwp > version seems to be proper, it's also the most recent. > > All three have screen shots of OO4. > > $0.01 FWIW > > Ben > > On 11/24/21 12:05 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: >> In Spanish language Windows 10, searching for "Open Office" on the >> Microsoft Store shows a version dated 2019 from "PackagerExpress.com" >> selling for $149 (I suppose ARS not USD). >> >> Screenshot >> https://app.box.com/s/rhnm38j71hohtwml3353eb2lkmzfeqku >> >> FC >> >> On 24/11/2021, Matthias Seidel wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> Am 24.11.21 um 16:36 schrieb Bidouille: > As I already wrote you via mail, please use the Store on your > Windows. My firm has disabled this function. So I can't check it. >>> That is understandable for a company... ;-) But I'm interested by screenshot. :-) >>> I can only give a German screenshot, as the Store defaults to the >>> language of the OS: >>> >>> https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO-MS-Store-Win10.png >>> >>> And as I understand it, the "classical" Windows apps in the Microsoft >>> Store will not show up on the Internet... >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Matthias >>> - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >>> >> > smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft Store on Windows 10
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/search/shop/Apps?q=Apache%20OpenOffice for me, shows 3 versions: OpenOffice Suite by Repackager Express) January 2019 $69.99 USD marked down to $9.99 USD Implies correct copyright (Open Office Collaborators), but lists the GPL license under additional terms OpenOffice Windows Store Version (winuwp) July 2020 $9.99 USD Copyright lists the ASF and mentions the Apache License v2.0 Open Office Store Edition (muzzumoh) June 2020 $4.99 USD Per the page does not seem to properly list the license or copyright No clue which is the right one to recommend (I don't use Windows Store at all; not even Windows). Based on copyright/licensing hte winuwp version seems to be proper, it's also the most recent. All three have screen shots of OO4. $0.01 FWIW Ben On 11/24/21 12:05 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > In Spanish language Windows 10, searching for "Open Office" on the > Microsoft Store shows a version dated 2019 from "PackagerExpress.com" > selling for $149 (I suppose ARS not USD). > > Screenshot > https://app.box.com/s/rhnm38j71hohtwml3353eb2lkmzfeqku > > FC > > On 24/11/2021, Matthias Seidel wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Am 24.11.21 um 16:36 schrieb Bidouille: As I already wrote you via mail, please use the Store on your Windows. >>> My firm has disabled this function. So I can't check it. >> That is understandable for a company... ;-) >>> But I'm interested by screenshot. :-) >> >> I can only give a German screenshot, as the Store defaults to the >> language of the OS: >> >> https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO-MS-Store-Win10.png >> >> And as I understand it, the "classical" Windows apps in the Microsoft >> Store will not show up on the Internet... >> >> Regards, >> >> Matthias >> >>> >>> - >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >>> >> >> > > -- Ben Meyer Software Engineer (703)901-2797 bm_witn...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft Store on Windows 10
Hi, Am 24.11.21 um 18:05 schrieb Fernando Cassia: > In Spanish language Windows 10, searching for "Open Office" on the > Microsoft Store shows a version dated 2019 from "PackagerExpress.com" > selling for $149 (I suppose ARS not USD). > > Screenshot > https://app.box.com/s/rhnm38j71hohtwml3353eb2lkmzfeqku That's one of the unofficial offers. But if you search for OpenOffice it will give you the right one (with English text, I suppose). BTW: We still need someone to translate the Store Listing to Spanish!? Volunteers? Anyone? ;-) Regards, Matthias > > FC > > On 24/11/2021, Matthias Seidel wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Am 24.11.21 um 16:36 schrieb Bidouille: As I already wrote you via mail, please use the Store on your Windows. >>> My firm has disabled this function. So I can't check it. >> That is understandable for a company... ;-) >>> But I'm interested by screenshot. :-) >> I can only give a German screenshot, as the Store defaults to the >> language of the OS: >> >> https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO-MS-Store-Win10.png >> >> And as I understand it, the "classical" Windows apps in the Microsoft >> Store will not show up on the Internet... >> >> Regards, >> >> Matthias >> >>> - >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >>> >> > smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft Store on Windows 10
In Spanish language Windows 10, searching for "Open Office" on the Microsoft Store shows a version dated 2019 from "PackagerExpress.com" selling for $149 (I suppose ARS not USD). Screenshot https://app.box.com/s/rhnm38j71hohtwml3353eb2lkmzfeqku FC On 24/11/2021, Matthias Seidel wrote: > Hi, > > Am 24.11.21 um 16:36 schrieb Bidouille: >>> As I already wrote you via mail, please use the Store on your >>> Windows. >> My firm has disabled this function. So I can't check it. > That is understandable for a company... ;-) >> But I'm interested by screenshot. :-) > > I can only give a German screenshot, as the Store defaults to the > language of the OS: > > https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO-MS-Store-Win10.png > > And as I understand it, the "classical" Windows apps in the Microsoft > Store will not show up on the Internet... > > Regards, > > Matthias > >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >> > > -- During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act Durante épocas de Engaño Universal, decir la verdad se convierte en un Acto Revolucionario - George Orwell - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft Store on Windows 10
Hi, Am 24.11.21 um 16:36 schrieb Bidouille: >> As I already wrote you via mail, please use the Store on your >> Windows. > My firm has disabled this function. So I can't check it. That is understandable for a company... ;-) > But I'm interested by screenshot. :-) I can only give a German screenshot, as the Store defaults to the language of the OS: https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO-MS-Store-Win10.png And as I understand it, the "classical" Windows apps in the Microsoft Store will not show up on the Internet... Regards, Matthias > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft Store on Windows 10
> As I already wrote you via mail, please use the Store on your > Windows. My firm has disabled this function. So I can't check it. But I'm interested by screenshot. :-) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft Store on Windows 10
Hi all, I tested on a computer from a friend. Microsoft Store is not updated, because he uses Windows 10 1909. So it comes down to updating the OS to a recent version first... ;-) Regards, Matthias Am 23.11.21 um 10:39 schrieb Pedro Lino: > Hi all > >> On 11/23/2021 7:26 AM Bidouille wrote: >> >> >> Actually, I can not found this official version. >> If I try a search with OpenOffice, I get two others costing €9.99: >> * OpenOffice Windows Store Version >> * OpenOffice Suite RepackagerExpress.com > I get the same. In fact searching for Apache OpenOffice shows the same results > https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/search/explore?q=apache+openoffice > > Can anyone provide a link to the Free version? > > Maybe it only shows up within the Windows 10 or 11 app? > > Regards, > Pedro > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft Store on Windows 10
Hi Pedro, Am 23.11.21 um 10:39 schrieb Pedro Lino: > Hi all > >> On 11/23/2021 7:26 AM Bidouille wrote: >> >> >> Actually, I can not found this official version. >> If I try a search with OpenOffice, I get two others costing €9.99: >> * OpenOffice Windows Store Version >> * OpenOffice Suite RepackagerExpress.com > I get the same. In fact searching for Apache OpenOffice shows the same results > https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/search/explore?q=apache+openoffice Please use the Microsoft Store on Windows 10/11. > > Can anyone provide a link to the Free version? ms-windows-store://pdp/?productid=XP89J5462CMGJD But you have to put that link manually in a browser, I think. > > Maybe it only shows up within the Windows 10 or 11 app? Exactly, that's what I am talking about. ;-) Regards, Matthias > > Regards, > Pedro > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft Store on Windows 10
Hi, Am 23.11.21 um 08:26 schrieb Bidouille: > Actually, I can not found this official version. > If I try a search with OpenOffice, I get two others costing €9.99: > * OpenOffice Windows Store Version > * OpenOffice Suite RepackagerExpress.com As I already wrote you via mail, please use the Store on your Windows. But maybe it isn't updated yet? Mine was last Thursday. Regards, Matthias > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft Store on Windows 10
Hi all > On 11/23/2021 7:26 AM Bidouille wrote: > > > Actually, I can not found this official version. > If I try a search with OpenOffice, I get two others costing €9.99: > * OpenOffice Windows Store Version > * OpenOffice Suite RepackagerExpress.com I get the same. In fact searching for Apache OpenOffice shows the same results https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/search/explore?q=apache+openoffice Can anyone provide a link to the Free version? Maybe it only shows up within the Windows 10 or 11 app? Regards, Pedro - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft Store on Windows 10
Actually, I can not found this official version. If I try a search with OpenOffice, I get two others costing €9.99: * OpenOffice Windows Store Version * OpenOffice Suite RepackagerExpress.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft Store on Windows 10
Hi Marcus, Am 22.11.21 um 23:28 schrieb Marcus: > Am 22.11.21 um 17:31 schrieb Matthias Seidel: >> Am 19.11.21 um 00:53 schrieb Marcus: >>> Am 18.11.21 um 21:51 schrieb Matthias Seidel: Apache OpenOffice has already been available in the new Microsoft Store on Windows 11 since October. With the latest App update, the new store is also coming to Windows 10. Users can now install the latest OpenOffice version with a single click! The Store Listings are localized in English, German, Italian, Polish and Portuguese. Feel free to contact me if you want to add more languages or if you have any questions. >>> >>> great news. :-) >>> >>> Then the new version was worth it to release at this point of time - >>> to be ready for the Win 10 store. >> >> Yes, I have now tested the store on every Windows PC I got my hands on. >> Absolutely no problems so far... >> >> The next task will be to get rid of all these unofficial OpenOffice >> offers. ;-) >> >> Do we want to make an announcement? > > I would say let's involve someone who has hopefully more knowledge > about such kind of things. Michael, do you have time to speak about it? Just to be clear: The announcement I thought of would be about the availability of AOO in the Windows 10 store... ;-) "Legal" things should come after that, Microsoft is also interested in cleaning up the store. I was already in contact with one of the companies, but the last months were stressful with bringing AOO to the MS Store and all the "normal" work for the AOO 4.1.11 release. Regards, Matthias > > Thanks > > Marcus > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft Store on Windows 10
Am 22.11.21 um 17:31 schrieb Matthias Seidel: Am 19.11.21 um 00:53 schrieb Marcus: Am 18.11.21 um 21:51 schrieb Matthias Seidel: Apache OpenOffice has already been available in the new Microsoft Store on Windows 11 since October. With the latest App update, the new store is also coming to Windows 10. Users can now install the latest OpenOffice version with a single click! The Store Listings are localized in English, German, Italian, Polish and Portuguese. Feel free to contact me if you want to add more languages or if you have any questions. great news. :-) Then the new version was worth it to release at this point of time - to be ready for the Win 10 store. Yes, I have now tested the store on every Windows PC I got my hands on. Absolutely no problems so far... The next task will be to get rid of all these unofficial OpenOffice offers. ;-) Do we want to make an announcement? I would say let's involve someone who has hopefully more knowledge about such kind of things. Michael, do you have time to speak about it? Thanks Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft Store on Windows 10
Hi Marcus, Am 19.11.21 um 00:53 schrieb Marcus: > Am 18.11.21 um 21:51 schrieb Matthias Seidel: >> Apache OpenOffice has already been available in the new Microsoft >> Store on Windows 11 since October. >> With the latest App update, the new store is also coming to Windows 10. >> >> Users can now install the latest OpenOffice version with a single click! >> >> The Store Listings are localized in English, German, Italian, Polish >> and Portuguese. >> Feel free to contact me if you want to add more languages or if you >> have any questions. > > great news. :-) > > Then the new version was worth it to release at this point of time - > to be ready for the Win 10 store. Yes, I have now tested the store on every Windows PC I got my hands on. Absolutely no problems so far... The next task will be to get rid of all these unofficial OpenOffice offers. ;-) Do we want to make an announcement? Regards, Matthias > > Marcus > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft Store on Windows 10
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Re: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft Store on Windows 10
Hi Pedro, Am 19.11.21 um 18:14 schrieb Pedro Lino: >> On 11/19/2021 4:47 PM Bidouille wrote: >> A french version will be great. > Indeed! > And a Spanish version also... It is the 4th spoken language worlwide and the > 2nd by native speakers. Any Spanish volunteers? Maybe we should additionally ask on l10n@ ? Regards, Matthias > > Regards, > Pedro > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft Store on Windows 10
> On 11/19/2021 4:47 PM Bidouille wrote: > A french version will be great. Indeed! And a Spanish version also... It is the 4th spoken language worlwide and the 2nd by native speakers. Any Spanish volunteers? Regards, Pedro - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft Store on Windows 10
Hi, Am 19.11.21 um 17:47 schrieb Bidouille: >> The Store Listings are localized in English, German, Italian, Polish >> and Portuguese. >> Feel free to contact me if you want to add more languages or if you >> have any questions. > A french version will be great. Definitely! Can I send you the strings for translation? Note: The French AOO version should already be there, but the Store Listing might be in English. Could you check that? Regards, Matthias > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft Store on Windows 10
> The Store Listings are localized in English, German, Italian, Polish > and Portuguese. > Feel free to contact me if you want to add more languages or if you > have any questions. A french version will be great. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft Store on Windows 10
On Thu, 18 Nov 2021 16:27:56 -0800 farhad khosravi wrote: > Hi, > I just downloaded the Apache and was trying to install it on my MacBook with > OS 11.6 but I got a message that [“Open Office” can not be opened because the > developer can not be verified] > What can I do to get it installed. > > Thanks, > > Farhad > > Sent from my iPhone You need to read Q05/A05 in https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=74=89283 Apple Gatekeeper is preventing your install. The above Q/A should solve your problem. RoryOF > > > On Nov 18, 2021, at 3:53 PM, Marcus wrote: > > > > Am 18.11.21 um 21:51 schrieb Matthias Seidel: > >> Apache OpenOffice has already been available in the new Microsoft Store on > >> Windows 11 since October. > >> With the latest App update, the new store is also coming to Windows 10. > >> Users can now install the latest OpenOffice version with a single click! > >> The Store Listings are localized in English, German, Italian, Polish and > >> Portuguese. > >> Feel free to contact me if you want to add more languages or if you have > >> any questions. > > > > great news. :-) > > > > Then the new version was worth it to release at this point of time - to be > > ready for the Win 10 store. > > > > Marcus > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org > -- Rory O'Farrell - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft Store on Windows 10
Hi, I just downloaded the Apache and was trying to install it on my MacBook with OS 11.6 but I got a message that [“Open Office” can not be opened because the developer can not be verified] What can I do to get it installed. Thanks, Farhad Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 18, 2021, at 3:53 PM, Marcus wrote: > > Am 18.11.21 um 21:51 schrieb Matthias Seidel: >> Apache OpenOffice has already been available in the new Microsoft Store on >> Windows 11 since October. >> With the latest App update, the new store is also coming to Windows 10. >> Users can now install the latest OpenOffice version with a single click! >> The Store Listings are localized in English, German, Italian, Polish and >> Portuguese. >> Feel free to contact me if you want to add more languages or if you have any >> questions. > > great news. :-) > > Then the new version was worth it to release at this point of time - to be > ready for the Win 10 store. > > Marcus > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft Store on Windows 10
Am 18.11.21 um 21:51 schrieb Matthias Seidel: Apache OpenOffice has already been available in the new Microsoft Store on Windows 11 since October. With the latest App update, the new store is also coming to Windows 10. Users can now install the latest OpenOffice version with a single click! The Store Listings are localized in English, German, Italian, Polish and Portuguese. Feel free to contact me if you want to add more languages or if you have any questions. great news. :-) Then the new version was worth it to release at this point of time - to be ready for the Win 10 store. Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org