Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit

2013-07-15 Thread Peter Junge

On 7/15/2013 10:30 AM, Rob Weir wrote:

On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 6:46 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 6:34 PM, Regina Henschel
rb.hensc...@t-online.de wrote:


[...]



And my translation:
I have deleted two OO-Config Folder in AppData\Roaming which I missed in my
first attempt.
- AppData\Roaming\3 of the previously deinstalled AOO341
- AppData\Roaming\4 of the parallel installed AOO400-Snapshots.
- And the installation folders in \Program File(x86)
I had deinstalled/deleted AOO341 and AOO400-Snapshot already before
RC-Installation.
I assume, that an Average Joe user has not installed a snapshot previously
and therefore no config folder \4 exists.
Up to now I have always installed the full versions over my old versions,
and never got problems (or never notice some.)



I'll do some testing tonight.  I have two clean VM images, for
Windows 8 32-bit and Windows 7 64-bit, that I can install the AOO 4.0
RC on.  Since these are fresh images they don't have any residual
files from previous AOO installs.



I was not able to get a crash with AOO 4.0 RC on Windows 7 64-bit or
Windows 8 32-bit.

I tested Writer in a document with a mix of objects and formats, doing
a lot of editing, formatting, copy/paste and delete operations,
including formatting via the Sidepanel.

This was the en-US version.

So this doesn't look like a shallow crash that everyone will see.
But it would be good to narrow it down.For example, has anyone
seen it on a non-German version?  Is that a clue?  Is a particular
object involved?  I tried also with images, drawings, lists, tables,
etc.  Was anything more exotic involved?


While I was a QA engineer for OpenOffice at Sun, we had:
++ Crashes that were limited to a particular language
++ Crashes that happened only (exactly) once with every installation.
++ Crashes that happened only after the first start of an installation
++ Of course, crashes that were limited to a particular language
++ ...

Now imagine even a combination of two or more of those preconditions and 
you may prefer looking for a needle in a haystack.


Virtualbox for example has the great feature of taking snapshots. That 
should be extremely useful to be able to rollback preconditions.


Peter



Mine was a clean new install, not an update.  But it is hard to
imagine a scenario where copy or delete operations behave differently
depending on whether the install was an update or not.

-Rob



-Rob




Kind regards
Regina




Kind regards
Regina



   - Dennis

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From: Max Merbald [mailto:max.merb...@gmx.de]
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 11:01 AM
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Cc: Regina Henschel
Subject: Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit

Hi Regina,

I reported the same thing on June 22, but I couldn't reproduce it the
next day. That was not the RC of course but build 9701. I have no idea
what caused it. It doesn't happen right now either, I just tried again.

Max


Am 14.07.2013 19:36, schrieb Regina Henschel:


Hi all,

there is a mail on the German list, which describes a crash when mark
something in Writer and then copy it. (Which would be a show-stopper.)
The poster has deinstalled OOo3.4.1 and all previous snapshots and
then installed the RC. OS is Windows 8, 64 bit.

Can someone test it with this conditions? Unfortunately I haven't got
Windows 8.

Kind regards
Regina

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Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit

2013-07-15 Thread Andre Fischer

On 14.07.2013 22:34, Max Merbald wrote:


Hello Dennis,

it's as you said, you select a part in the text and then you 
right-click it and click copy, i. e. in my case it happened when I 
was trying to copy by mouse. But as I said it happened several weeks 
ago and it hasn't happened again since. My OS is Win8 64 bit too.


This may very well have been caused by a regression bug I have 
introduced (and later fixed).  It was usually triggered by copying or 
removing selected text in Writer.  The issues are 121479 (the fix for 
this bug introduced the regression) and 122682 (fix for it, checked in 
on July 8th):


https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121479
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122682

And just to be clear, this has been fixed and is not in the release.

-Andre



Max


Am 14.07.2013 22:14, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton:
I don't quite understand what this means: mark something in Writer 
and then copy it.


Is this about selecting something in Writer and copying it to the 
clip-board?  Or is there some other action that reproduces this 
situation.


I can test this in Windows 8 x64.

  - Dennis

-Original Message-
From: Max Merbald [mailto:max.merb...@gmx.de]
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 11:01 AM
To:dev@openoffice.apache.org
Cc: Regina Henschel
Subject: Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit

Hi Regina,

I reported the same thing on June 22, but I couldn't reproduce it the
next day. That was not the RC of course but build 9701. I have no idea
what caused it. It doesn't happen right now either, I just tried again.

Max


Am 14.07.2013 19:36, schrieb Regina Henschel:

Hi all,

there is a mail on the German list, which describes a crash when mark
something in Writer and then copy it. (Which would be a show-stopper.)
The poster has deinstalled OOo3.4.1 and all previous snapshots and
then installed the RC. OS is Windows 8, 64 bit.

Can someone test it with this conditions? Unfortunately I haven't got
Windows 8.

Kind regards
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Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit

2013-07-15 Thread Andre Fischer

On 15.07.2013 10:09, Andre Fischer wrote:

On 14.07.2013 22:34, Max Merbald wrote:


Hello Dennis,

it's as you said, you select a part in the text and then you 
right-click it and click copy, i. e. in my case it happened when I 
was trying to copy by mouse. But as I said it happened several weeks 
ago and it hasn't happened again since. My OS is Win8 64 bit too.


This may very well have been caused by a regression bug I have 
introduced (and later fixed).  It was usually triggered by copying or 
removing selected text in Writer.  The issues are 121479 (the fix for 
this bug introduced the regression) and 122682 (fix for it, checked in 
on July 8th):


https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121479
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122682

And just to be clear, this has been fixed and is not in the release.


OK, that was not very clear :-)

The bug *fix* is in the release and therefore the bug is not.



-Andre



Max


Am 14.07.2013 22:14, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton:
I don't quite understand what this means: mark something in Writer 
and then copy it.


Is this about selecting something in Writer and copying it to the 
clip-board?  Or is there some other action that reproduces this 
situation.


I can test this in Windows 8 x64.

  - Dennis

-Original Message-
From: Max Merbald [mailto:max.merb...@gmx.de]
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 11:01 AM
To:dev@openoffice.apache.org
Cc: Regina Henschel
Subject: Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit

Hi Regina,

I reported the same thing on June 22, but I couldn't reproduce it the
next day. That was not the RC of course but build 9701. I have no idea
what caused it. It doesn't happen right now either, I just tried again.

Max


Am 14.07.2013 19:36, schrieb Regina Henschel:

Hi all,

there is a mail on the German list, which describes a crash when mark
something in Writer and then copy it. (Which would be a show-stopper.)
The poster has deinstalled OOo3.4.1 and all previous snapshots and
then installed the RC. OS is Windows 8, 64 bit.

Can someone test it with this conditions? Unfortunately I haven't got
Windows 8.

Kind regards
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Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit

2013-07-15 Thread Samer Mansour
I have opened a new bug, with the version from about in the comments,
please let me know if this is still the same bug.
I did a upgrade from 3.4.1 to 4.0.0. Hiding the side panel did not affect
outcome.

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122752


On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 4:21 AM, Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com wrote:

 On 15.07.2013 10:09, Andre Fischer wrote:

 On 14.07.2013 22:34, Max Merbald wrote:


 Hello Dennis,

 it's as you said, you select a part in the text and then you right-click
 it and click copy, i. e. in my case it happened when I was trying to copy
 by mouse. But as I said it happened several weeks ago and it hasn't
 happened again since. My OS is Win8 64 bit too.


 This may very well have been caused by a regression bug I have introduced
 (and later fixed).  It was usually triggered by copying or removing
 selected text in Writer.  The issues are 121479 (the fix for this bug
 introduced the regression) and 122682 (fix for it, checked in on July 8th):

 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=121479https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121479
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=122682https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122682

 And just to be clear, this has been fixed and is not in the release.


 OK, that was not very clear :-)

 The bug *fix* is in the release and therefore the bug is not.



 -Andre


 Max


 Am 14.07.2013 22:14, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton:

 I don't quite understand what this means: mark something in Writer and
 then copy it.

 Is this about selecting something in Writer and copying it to the
 clip-board?  Or is there some other action that reproduces this situation.

 I can test this in Windows 8 x64.

   - Dennis

 -Original Message-
 From: Max Merbald [mailto:max.merb...@gmx.de]
 Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 11:01 AM
 To:dev@openoffice.apache.org
 Cc: Regina Henschel
 Subject: Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit

 Hi Regina,

 I reported the same thing on June 22, but I couldn't reproduce it the
 next day. That was not the RC of course but build 9701. I have no idea
 what caused it. It doesn't happen right now either, I just tried again.

 Max


 Am 14.07.2013 19:36, schrieb Regina Henschel:

 Hi all,

 there is a mail on the German list, which describes a crash when mark
 something in Writer and then copy it. (Which would be a show-stopper.)
 The poster has deinstalled OOo3.4.1 and all previous snapshots and
 then installed the RC. OS is Windows 8, 64 bit.

 Can someone test it with this conditions? Unfortunately I haven't got
 Windows 8.

 Kind regards
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Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit

2013-07-14 Thread Max Merbald

Hi Regina,

I reported the same thing on June 22, but I couldn't reproduce it the 
next day. That was not the RC of course but build 9701. I have no idea 
what caused it. It doesn't happen right now either, I just tried again.


Max


Am 14.07.2013 19:36, schrieb Regina Henschel:

Hi all,

there is a mail on the German list, which describes a crash when mark 
something in Writer and then copy it. (Which would be a show-stopper.)
The poster has deinstalled OOo3.4.1 and all previous snapshots and 
then installed the RC. OS is Windows 8, 64 bit.


Can someone test it with this conditions? Unfortunately I haven't got 
Windows 8.


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RE: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit

2013-07-14 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I don't quite understand what this means: mark something in Writer and then 
copy it.

Is this about selecting something in Writer and copying it to the clip-board?  
Or is there some other action that reproduces this situation.

I can test this in Windows 8 x64.  

 - Dennis

-Original Message-
From: Max Merbald [mailto:max.merb...@gmx.de] 
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 11:01 AM
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Cc: Regina Henschel
Subject: Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit

Hi Regina,

I reported the same thing on June 22, but I couldn't reproduce it the 
next day. That was not the RC of course but build 9701. I have no idea 
what caused it. It doesn't happen right now either, I just tried again.

Max


Am 14.07.2013 19:36, schrieb Regina Henschel:
 Hi all,

 there is a mail on the German list, which describes a crash when mark 
 something in Writer and then copy it. (Which would be a show-stopper.)
 The poster has deinstalled OOo3.4.1 and all previous snapshots and 
 then installed the RC. OS is Windows 8, 64 bit.

 Can someone test it with this conditions? Unfortunately I haven't got 
 Windows 8.

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 Regina

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Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit

2013-07-14 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi Dennis,

Dennis E. Hamilton schrieb:

I don't quite understand what this means: mark something in Writer and then copy 
it.

Is this about selecting something in Writer and copying it to the clip-board?


Yes, that do I mean.

  Or is there some other action that reproduces this situation.


I can test this in Windows 8 x64.


That is nice, please do it.

The poster has done some cleanup now, installed again, and the error 
no longer occurs. I have ask him to tell us, what he has done, but have 
no answer yet.


Kind regards
Regina



  - Dennis

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From: Max Merbald [mailto:max.merb...@gmx.de]
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 11:01 AM
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Cc: Regina Henschel
Subject: Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit

Hi Regina,

I reported the same thing on June 22, but I couldn't reproduce it the
next day. That was not the RC of course but build 9701. I have no idea
what caused it. It doesn't happen right now either, I just tried again.

Max


Am 14.07.2013 19:36, schrieb Regina Henschel:

Hi all,

there is a mail on the German list, which describes a crash when mark
something in Writer and then copy it. (Which would be a show-stopper.)
The poster has deinstalled OOo3.4.1 and all previous snapshots and
then installed the RC. OS is Windows 8, 64 bit.

Can someone test it with this conditions? Unfortunately I haven't got
Windows 8.

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Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit

2013-07-14 Thread Max Merbald


Hello Dennis,

it's as you said, you select a part in the text and then you right-click 
it and click copy, i. e. in my case it happened when I was trying to 
copy by mouse. But as I said it happened several weeks ago and it hasn't 
happened again since. My OS is Win8 64 bit too.


Max


Am 14.07.2013 22:14, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton:

I don't quite understand what this means: mark something in Writer and then copy 
it.

Is this about selecting something in Writer and copying it to the clip-board?  
Or is there some other action that reproduces this situation.

I can test this in Windows 8 x64.

  - Dennis

-Original Message-
From: Max Merbald [mailto:max.merb...@gmx.de]
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 11:01 AM
To:dev@openoffice.apache.org
Cc: Regina Henschel
Subject: Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit

Hi Regina,

I reported the same thing on June 22, but I couldn't reproduce it the
next day. That was not the RC of course but build 9701. I have no idea
what caused it. It doesn't happen right now either, I just tried again.

Max


Am 14.07.2013 19:36, schrieb Regina Henschel:

Hi all,

there is a mail on the German list, which describes a crash when mark
something in Writer and then copy it. (Which would be a show-stopper.)
The poster has deinstalled OOo3.4.1 and all previous snapshots and
then installed the RC. OS is Windows 8, 64 bit.

Can someone test it with this conditions? Unfortunately I haven't got
Windows 8.

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Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit

2013-07-14 Thread Raphael Bircher

Hi at all

I have had a similar behavur with Win 7 64. But with select - Delete - 
Crash. I can verify this tomorrow morning.


Greetings Raphael

Am 14.07.13 22:34, schrieb Max Merbald:


Hello Dennis,

it's as you said, you select a part in the text and then you 
right-click it and click copy, i. e. in my case it happened when I 
was trying to copy by mouse. But as I said it happened several weeks 
ago and it hasn't happened again since. My OS is Win8 64 bit too.


Max


Am 14.07.2013 22:14, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton:
I don't quite understand what this means: mark something in Writer 
and then copy it.


Is this about selecting something in Writer and copying it to the 
clip-board?  Or is there some other action that reproduces this 
situation.


I can test this in Windows 8 x64.

  - Dennis

-Original Message-
From: Max Merbald [mailto:max.merb...@gmx.de]
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 11:01 AM
To:dev@openoffice.apache.org
Cc: Regina Henschel
Subject: Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit

Hi Regina,

I reported the same thing on June 22, but I couldn't reproduce it the
next day. That was not the RC of course but build 9701. I have no idea
what caused it. It doesn't happen right now either, I just tried again.

Max


Am 14.07.2013 19:36, schrieb Regina Henschel:

Hi all,

there is a mail on the German list, which describes a crash when mark
something in Writer and then copy it. (Which would be a show-stopper.)
The poster has deinstalled OOo3.4.1 and all previous snapshots and
then installed the RC. OS is Windows 8, 64 bit.

Can someone test it with this conditions? Unfortunately I haven't got
Windows 8.

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Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit

2013-07-14 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi,

Regina Henschel schrieb:

Hi Dennis,

Dennis E. Hamilton schrieb:

I don't quite understand what this means: mark something in Writer
and then copy it.

Is this about selecting something in Writer and copying it to the
clip-board?


Yes, that do I mean.

   Or is there some other action that reproduces this situation.


I can test this in Windows 8 x64.


That is nice, please do it.

The poster has done some cleanup now, installed again, and the error
no longer occurs. I have ask him to tell us, what he has done, but have
no answer yet.


I have the answer now. The mail 
CAL=LFEz=aGGAK1bwEGYtJdg=qxvd6n8f73gaqd2sb9pw_tn...@mail.gmail.com

is not in the archive yet. If you will read the thread there, look for
subject
AOO400 stürzt beim kopieren ab. (Was:  AOO 4.0.0 ReleaseCandidate verfügbar)
from Detlef Nannen.

Here a copy:
quote
Ich habe unter AppData\Roaming zwei OO-ConfigOrdner gelöscht, an die ich
beim ersten Anlauf nicht gedacht hatte.
- AppData\Roaming\3 des vorher deinstallierten AOO341
- AppData\Roaming\4 des parallell installierten AOO400-Snapshots.
- Dann noch die Installationsordner unter \Program File(x86)

AOO341 und AOO400-Snapshot hatte ich bereits vor der RC-Installation
deinstalliert/gelöscht.
Ich nehme mal an, dass Otto-Normaluser vorher keinen Snapshot installiert
hatte, und somit kein Configordner \4 existiert.

Bisher hatte ich die vollen Versionen immer über die alten Versionen
drüberinstalliert, und mir nie ein Problem damit eingehandelt (oder bin nie
darauf gestoßen).
/quote

And my translation:
I have deleted two OO-Config Folder in AppData\Roaming which I missed in 
my first attempt.

- AppData\Roaming\3 of the previously deinstalled AOO341
- AppData\Roaming\4 of the parallel installed AOO400-Snapshots.
- And the installation folders in \Program File(x86)
I had deinstalled/deleted AOO341 and AOO400-Snapshot already before 
RC-Installation.
I assume, that an Average Joe user has not installed a snapshot 
previously and therefore no config folder \4 exists.
Up to now I have always installed the full versions over my old 
versions, and never got problems (or never notice some.)


Kind regards
Regina



Kind regards
Regina



  - Dennis

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Subject: Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit

Hi Regina,

I reported the same thing on June 22, but I couldn't reproduce it the
next day. That was not the RC of course but build 9701. I have no idea
what caused it. It doesn't happen right now either, I just tried again.

Max


Am 14.07.2013 19:36, schrieb Regina Henschel:

Hi all,

there is a mail on the German list, which describes a crash when mark
something in Writer and then copy it. (Which would be a show-stopper.)
The poster has deinstalled OOo3.4.1 and all previous snapshots and
then installed the RC. OS is Windows 8, 64 bit.

Can someone test it with this conditions? Unfortunately I haven't got
Windows 8.

Kind regards
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RE: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit

2013-07-14 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I have not been able to duplicate this.  I think more information is needed on 
the exact failure case.

(I did encounter a FirstRun OpenOffice 4.0.0 - Fatal Error but that was about 
dictionary extensions and apparently a bug in the dialog about dictionaries 
already installed and the option to replace it with the same version or not.)

 - Dennis

-Original Message-
From: Max Merbald [mailto:max.merb...@gmx.de] 
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 01:34 PM
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org; Dennis E. Hamilton
Subject: Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit


Hello Dennis,

it's as you said, you select a part in the text and then you right-click 
it and click copy, i. e. in my case it happened when I was trying to 
copy by mouse. But as I said it happened several weeks ago and it hasn't 
happened again since. My OS is Win8 64 bit too.

Max


Am 14.07.2013 22:14, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton:
 I don't quite understand what this means: mark something in Writer and then 
 copy it.

 Is this about selecting something in Writer and copying it to the clip-board? 
  Or is there some other action that reproduces this situation.

 I can test this in Windows 8 x64.

   - Dennis

 -Original Message-
 From: Max Merbald [mailto:max.merb...@gmx.de]
 Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 11:01 AM
 To:dev@openoffice.apache.org
 Cc: Regina Henschel
 Subject: Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit

 Hi Regina,

 I reported the same thing on June 22, but I couldn't reproduce it the
 next day. That was not the RC of course but build 9701. I have no idea
 what caused it. It doesn't happen right now either, I just tried again.

 Max


 Am 14.07.2013 19:36, schrieb Regina Henschel:
 Hi all,

 there is a mail on the German list, which describes a crash when mark
 something in Writer and then copy it. (Which would be a show-stopper.)
 The poster has deinstalled OOo3.4.1 and all previous snapshots and
 then installed the RC. OS is Windows 8, 64 bit.

 Can someone test it with this conditions? Unfortunately I haven't got
 Windows 8.

 Kind regards
 Regina

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Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit

2013-07-14 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 6:46 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
 On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 6:34 PM, Regina Henschel
 rb.hensc...@t-online.de wrote:
 Hi,

 Regina Henschel schrieb:

 Hi Dennis,

 Dennis E. Hamilton schrieb:

 I don't quite understand what this means: mark something in Writer
 and then copy it.

 Is this about selecting something in Writer and copying it to the
 clip-board?


 Yes, that do I mean.

Or is there some other action that reproduces this situation.


 I can test this in Windows 8 x64.


 That is nice, please do it.

 The poster has done some cleanup now, installed again, and the error
 no longer occurs. I have ask him to tell us, what he has done, but have
 no answer yet.


 I have the answer now. The mail
 CAL=LFEz=aGGAK1bwEGYtJdg=qxvd6n8f73gaqd2sb9pw_tn...@mail.gmail.com
 is not in the archive yet. If you will read the thread there, look for
 subject
 AOO400 stürzt beim kopieren ab. (Was:  AOO 4.0.0 ReleaseCandidate verfügbar)
 from Detlef Nannen.

 Here a copy:
 quote
 Ich habe unter AppData\Roaming zwei OO-ConfigOrdner gelöscht, an die ich
 beim ersten Anlauf nicht gedacht hatte.
 - AppData\Roaming\3 des vorher deinstallierten AOO341
 - AppData\Roaming\4 des parallell installierten AOO400-Snapshots.
 - Dann noch die Installationsordner unter \Program File(x86)

 AOO341 und AOO400-Snapshot hatte ich bereits vor der RC-Installation
 deinstalliert/gelöscht.
 Ich nehme mal an, dass Otto-Normaluser vorher keinen Snapshot installiert
 hatte, und somit kein Configordner \4 existiert.

 Bisher hatte ich die vollen Versionen immer über die alten Versionen
 drüberinstalliert, und mir nie ein Problem damit eingehandelt (oder bin nie
 darauf gestoßen).
 /quote

 And my translation:
 I have deleted two OO-Config Folder in AppData\Roaming which I missed in my
 first attempt.
 - AppData\Roaming\3 of the previously deinstalled AOO341
 - AppData\Roaming\4 of the parallel installed AOO400-Snapshots.
 - And the installation folders in \Program File(x86)
 I had deinstalled/deleted AOO341 and AOO400-Snapshot already before
 RC-Installation.
 I assume, that an Average Joe user has not installed a snapshot previously
 and therefore no config folder \4 exists.
 Up to now I have always installed the full versions over my old versions,
 and never got problems (or never notice some.)


 I'll do some testing tonight.  I have two clean VM images, for
 Windows 8 32-bit and Windows 7 64-bit, that I can install the AOO 4.0
 RC on.  Since these are fresh images they don't have any residual
 files from previous AOO installs.


I was not able to get a crash with AOO 4.0 RC on Windows 7 64-bit or
Windows 8 32-bit.

I tested Writer in a document with a mix of objects and formats, doing
a lot of editing, formatting, copy/paste and delete operations,
including formatting via the Sidepanel.

This was the en-US version.

So this doesn't look like a shallow crash that everyone will see.
But it would be good to narrow it down.For example, has anyone
seen it on a non-German version?  Is that a clue?  Is a particular
object involved?  I tried also with images, drawings, lists, tables,
etc.  Was anything more exotic involved?

Mine was a clean new install, not an update.  But it is hard to
imagine a scenario where copy or delete operations behave differently
depending on whether the install was an update or not.

-Rob


 -Rob



 Kind regards
 Regina



 Kind regards
 Regina


   - Dennis

 -Original Message-
 From: Max Merbald [mailto:max.merb...@gmx.de]
 Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 11:01 AM
 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
 Cc: Regina Henschel
 Subject: Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit

 Hi Regina,

 I reported the same thing on June 22, but I couldn't reproduce it the
 next day. That was not the RC of course but build 9701. I have no idea
 what caused it. It doesn't happen right now either, I just tried again.

 Max


 Am 14.07.2013 19:36, schrieb Regina Henschel:

 Hi all,

 there is a mail on the German list, which describes a crash when mark
 something in Writer and then copy it. (Which would be a show-stopper.)
 The poster has deinstalled OOo3.4.1 and all previous snapshots and
 then installed the RC. OS is Windows 8, 64 bit.

 Can someone test it with this conditions? Unfortunately I haven't got
 Windows 8.

 Kind regards
 Regina

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Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit

2013-07-14 Thread Max Merbald

Hello Rob,

at the time I experienced that crash on Jun 22 in build 9701 no german 
version was available, just the US American. However, as I said' I 
haven't been able to reproduce that crash since, neither with build 9701 
nor with the RC. And  I don't remember which panel I may have used 
either. It seems it only occurs in very special circumstances.


Max


Am 15.07.2013 04:30, schrieb Rob Weir:

On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 6:46 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 6:34 PM, Regina Henschel
rb.hensc...@t-online.de wrote:

Hi,

Regina Henschel schrieb:


Hi Dennis,

Dennis E. Hamilton schrieb:

I don't quite understand what this means: mark something in Writer
and then copy it.

Is this about selecting something in Writer and copying it to the
clip-board?

Yes, that do I mean.

Or is there some other action that reproduces this situation.

I can test this in Windows 8 x64.

That is nice, please do it.

The poster has done some cleanup now, installed again, and the error
no longer occurs. I have ask him to tell us, what he has done, but have
no answer yet.

I have the answer now. The mail
CAL=LFEz=aGGAK1bwEGYtJdg=qxvd6n8f73gaqd2sb9pw_tn...@mail.gmail.com
is not in the archive yet. If you will read the thread there, look for
subject
AOO400 stürzt beim kopieren ab. (Was:  AOO 4.0.0 ReleaseCandidate verfügbar)
from Detlef Nannen.

Here a copy:
quote
Ich habe unter AppData\Roaming zwei OO-ConfigOrdner gelöscht, an die ich
beim ersten Anlauf nicht gedacht hatte.
- AppData\Roaming\3 des vorher deinstallierten AOO341
- AppData\Roaming\4 des parallell installierten AOO400-Snapshots.
- Dann noch die Installationsordner unter \Program File(x86)

AOO341 und AOO400-Snapshot hatte ich bereits vor der RC-Installation
deinstalliert/gelöscht.
Ich nehme mal an, dass Otto-Normaluser vorher keinen Snapshot installiert
hatte, und somit kein Configordner \4 existiert.

Bisher hatte ich die vollen Versionen immer über die alten Versionen
drüberinstalliert, und mir nie ein Problem damit eingehandelt (oder bin nie
darauf gestoßen).
/quote

And my translation:
I have deleted two OO-Config Folder in AppData\Roaming which I missed in my
first attempt.
- AppData\Roaming\3 of the previously deinstalled AOO341
- AppData\Roaming\4 of the parallel installed AOO400-Snapshots.
- And the installation folders in \Program File(x86)
I had deinstalled/deleted AOO341 and AOO400-Snapshot already before
RC-Installation.
I assume, that an Average Joe user has not installed a snapshot previously
and therefore no config folder \4 exists.
Up to now I have always installed the full versions over my old versions,
and never got problems (or never notice some.)


I'll do some testing tonight.  I have two clean VM images, for
Windows 8 32-bit and Windows 7 64-bit, that I can install the AOO 4.0
RC on.  Since these are fresh images they don't have any residual
files from previous AOO installs.


I was not able to get a crash with AOO 4.0 RC on Windows 7 64-bit or
Windows 8 32-bit.

I tested Writer in a document with a mix of objects and formats, doing
a lot of editing, formatting, copy/paste and delete operations,
including formatting via the Sidepanel.

This was the en-US version.

So this doesn't look like a shallow crash that everyone will see.
But it would be good to narrow it down.For example, has anyone
seen it on a non-German version?  Is that a clue?  Is a particular
object involved?  I tried also with images, drawings, lists, tables,
etc.  Was anything more exotic involved?

Mine was a clean new install, not an update.  But it is hard to
imagine a scenario where copy or delete operations behave differently
depending on whether the install was an update or not.

-Rob



-Rob




Kind regards
Regina



Kind regards
Regina


   - Dennis

-Original Message-
From: Max Merbald [mailto:max.merb...@gmx.de]
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 11:01 AM
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Cc: Regina Henschel
Subject: Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit

Hi Regina,

I reported the same thing on June 22, but I couldn't reproduce it the
next day. That was not the RC of course but build 9701. I have no idea
what caused it. It doesn't happen right now either, I just tried again.

Max


Am 14.07.2013 19:36, schrieb Regina Henschel:

Hi all,

there is a mail on the German list, which describes a crash when mark
something in Writer and then copy it. (Which would be a show-stopper.)
The poster has deinstalled OOo3.4.1 and all previous snapshots and
then installed the RC. OS is Windows 8, 64 bit.

Can someone test it with this conditions? Unfortunately I haven't got
Windows 8.

Kind regards
Regina

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