Wiki Accessibility

2013-02-14 Thread Robin Fowler
I have noticed that when signing up for the wiki sites you use the cat images 
captcha. I'm not blind myself, and i don't know much about how blind people use 
a computer, but I do wonder how a blind person would manage to solve this. 
Perhaps there is a way, but I thought I'd mention this in case it has been 
overlooked. I have seen other alternatives where it is possible to play back 
the captcha as audio, but I assume that won't work with cat images.

Regards,
Robin

Re: Wiki Accessibility

2013-02-14 Thread janI
On Feb 14, 2013 2:33 PM, Robin Fowler robin.fow...@outlook.com wrote:

 I have noticed that when signing up for the wiki sites you use the cat
images captcha. I'm not blind myself, and i don't know much about how blind
people use a computer, but I do wonder how a blind person would manage to
solve this. Perhaps there is a way, but I thought I'd mention this in case
it has been overlooked. I have seen other alternatives where it is possible
to play back the captcha as audio, but I assume that won't work with cat
images.

Hi you are quite right, our create account is not friendly towards blind
people, having said that we need something like that in order to fight
spam, and anybody who has a problem creating an account can mail this help
and will get help.

You might also have noticed that neither our wiki nor our www is especially
friendly for blind people. A lot of pages uses pictures, and our menu tree
is rather dynamic (makring it harder to remember).

We are currently discussing updating/renewing both content and look/feel of
the wikie, where I will keep your posting in memory.

have a nice day
Jan I

 Regards,
 Robin


Re: Wiki Accessibility

2013-02-14 Thread David Gerard
On 14 February 2013 16:05, janI j...@apache.org wrote:

 Hi you are quite right, our create account is not friendly towards blind
 people, having said that we need something like that in order to fight
 spam, and anybody who has a problem creating an account can mail this help
 and will get help.


rationalwiki.org, which I'm a volunteer sysadmin on, uses MediaWiki
with QuestyCaptcha with some success:

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:QuestyCaptcha

It asks a question in text form. This utterly confuses the spambots in
our experience.

Downside: it's really annoying to configure.


- d.


Re: Wiki Accessibility

2013-02-14 Thread janI
On Feb 14, 2013 5:13 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 14 February 2013 16:05, janI j...@apache.org wrote:

  Hi you are quite right, our create account is not friendly towards
blind
  people, having said that we need something like that in order to fight
  spam, and anybody who has a problem creating an account can mail this
help
  and will get help.


 rationalwiki.org, which I'm a volunteer sysadmin on, uses MediaWiki
 with QuestyCaptcha with some success:

 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:QuestyCaptcha

 It asks a question in text form. This utterly confuses the spambots in
 our experience.

 Downside: it's really annoying to configure.

I looked at that, but you really need somebody to maintain the questions
(at least as I saw it), and that is a resource which we dont have today.

There are many different captcha's available, and we tried some different
ones. At least to me (as a maintainer) it is important to use one that does
not require running maintenance, or takes a long time to configure. I do
the maintenance of the mwiki (at OS level, others do a great job at sysop
level), and cannot devote my full time to it.

rgds
Jan I.

 - d.