[dev] how to build in specific language++

2011-01-18 Thread 胡其图
you said by changing code (or adding a configuration item) it could be 
switched to use traditional Mongolian 
script, and I want to know how? it is very important to me!and I want to 
working on the new td-lr writing  mode in OOo UI,  perhaps together with Badral 
is a great idea!The first work from Badral will be available on the DEV300 
code line soon is very encouraging.


At 2011-01-18 01:01:13,Mathias Bauer nospamfor...@gmx.de wrote:

Hi 胡其图,

let me summarize.

OOo does not have a full script type support: we use a hard coded table 
that assigns a script type to an ISO locale. Thus each locale can be 
used only with one script type. For Mongolian this means that the mn 
locale can be either used with traditional writing or with Cyrillic 
writing. Currently OOo uses the latter, by changing code (or adding a 
configuration item) it could be switched to use traditional Mongolian 
script (with some effort even on a per-document base). But it won't be 
possible to use both scripts in the same document.

For further discussion of this problem please refer to issue 88665:
http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=88665

Badral Sanligin (ba...@openoffice.org) provided us with a first 
implementation of the necessary writing direction support in the Writer 
code. We had several iterations to get some bugs fixed, added some 
support for object positioning etc. But it's still not done so that we 
don't think that the code is good enough to enable the new td-lr writing 
mode in our UI. If you want, you can start working on this, perhaps 
together with Badral. I will support you where possible.

The first work from Badral will be available on the DEV300 code line 
soon and I will notify you when it's integrated.

Best regards,
Mathias

On 07.01.2011 08:06, 胡其图 wrote:
 thank you and this response is i'm always waiting for




 At 2011-01-04 16:05:58,Mathias Bauernospamfor...@gmx.de  wrote:

 Hi,

 sorry for the late response, but I didn't read mails in the Christmas
 and New Year break. I will answer soon and report the current status.

 Regards,
 Mathias

 On 19.12.2010 14:50, 胡其图 wrote:
 thank you for you help, and you are right, I am living in inner mongolia, 
 china, and we use traditional Mongolian. so I want to try on it, please 
 help me to gettingstart, and tell me how to join the forces.





 At 2010-12-17 16:09:47,Mathias Bauernospamfor...@gmx.de   wrote:

 Hi,

 On 17.12.2010 02:22, 胡其图 wrote:
 Hi, I am a beginner in open office developer and need your help really!
 I want to build open office in mongolian language specification, and 
 that can support mongolian writing mode(something like td-lr, means 
 top-down and left-right).
 there are have a site to aware of td-lr 
 mode:http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms531187(v=vs.85).aspx


 thank you.

 If I understand correctly, you want to use the traditional Mongolian
 text layout.

 This writing mode is still not supported in OOo. We have a CWS (feature
 branch) that adds a first version of it and it is waiting for
 integration. It needs some more work before we can offer it to users,
 but if you wanted to work on that matter, we could help you getting
 started. There is at least one more developer that is interested in
 that, perhaps you can join forces.

 Regards,
 Mathias

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Re: [dev] how to build in specific language++

2011-01-18 Thread Mathias Bauer

On 18.01.2011 09:37, ?? wrote:


you said by changing code (or adding a configuration item) it could
be switched to use traditional Mongolian script, and I want to know
how? it is very important to me!

Hard coded: change method MsLangId::getScriptType in
i18npool/source/isolang/mslangid.cxx.

(Eike, please correct me if I'm wrong!)

Configuration needs some more work; for the time being and to get 
started, hard coding should be OK.



and I want to working on the new
td-lr writing  mode in OOo UI,  perhaps together with Badral is a
great idea!The first work from Badral will be available on the
DEV300 code line soon is very encouraging.
The code should have been integrated already some months ago; 
unfortunately we found a bug we had to fix and I couldn't find the time. 
Now it looks as if it will happen in one of the next milestones. I will 
notify you and I will also ping Badral. Then perhaps we can make a plan 
how you can continue.


Best regards,
Mathias

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Re: [dev] Re:Re: [dev] Re:Re: [dev] how to build in specific language

2011-01-17 Thread Mathias Bauer

Hi ??,

let me summarize.

OOo does not have a full script type support: we use a hard coded table 
that assigns a script type to an ISO locale. Thus each locale can be 
used only with one script type. For Mongolian this means that the mn 
locale can be either used with traditional writing or with Cyrillic 
writing. Currently OOo uses the latter, by changing code (or adding a 
configuration item) it could be switched to use traditional Mongolian 
script (with some effort even on a per-document base). But it won't be 
possible to use both scripts in the same document.


For further discussion of this problem please refer to issue 88665:
http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=88665

Badral Sanligin (ba...@openoffice.org) provided us with a first 
implementation of the necessary writing direction support in the Writer 
code. We had several iterations to get some bugs fixed, added some 
support for object positioning etc. But it's still not done so that we 
don't think that the code is good enough to enable the new td-lr writing 
mode in our UI. If you want, you can start working on this, perhaps 
together with Badral. I will support you where possible.


The first work from Badral will be available on the DEV300 code line 
soon and I will notify you when it's integrated.


Best regards,
Mathias

On 07.01.2011 08:06, ?? wrote:

thank you and this response is i'm always waiting for




At 2011-01-04 16:05:58??Mathias Bauernospamfor...@gmx.de  wrote:


Hi,

sorry for the late response, but I didn't read mails in the Christmas
and New Year break. I will answer soon and report the current status.

Regards,
Mathias

On 19.12.2010 14:50, ?? wrote:

thank you for you help, and you are right, I am living in inner mongolia, 
china, and we use traditional Mongolian. so I want to try on it, please help me 
to gettingstart, and tell me how to join the forces.





At 2010-12-17 16:09:47??Mathias Bauernospamfor...@gmx.de   wrote:


Hi,

On 17.12.2010 02:22, ?? wrote:

Hi, I am a beginner in open office developer and need your help really!
I want to build open office in mongolian language specification, and that can 
support mongolian writing mode(something like td-lr, means top-down and 
left-right).
there are have a site to aware of td-lr 
mode:http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms531187(v=vs.85).aspx


thank you.


If I understand correctly, you want to use the traditional Mongolian
text layout.

This writing mode is still not supported in OOo. We have a CWS (feature
branch) that adds a first version of it and it is waiting for
integration. It needs some more work before we can offer it to users,
but if you wanted to work on that matter, we could help you getting
started. There is at least one more developer that is interested in
that, perhaps you can join forces.

Regards,
Mathias

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OpenOffice.org Engineering at Oracle: http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS
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[dev] Re:Re: [dev] Re:Re: [dev] how to build in specific language

2011-01-06 Thread 胡其图
thank you and this response is i'm always waiting for




At 2011-01-04 16:05:58,Mathias Bauer nospamfor...@gmx.de wrote:

Hi,

sorry for the late response, but I didn't read mails in the Christmas 
and New Year break. I will answer soon and report the current status.

Regards,
Mathias

On 19.12.2010 14:50, 胡其图 wrote:
 thank you for you help, and you are right, I am living in inner mongolia, 
 china, and we use traditional Mongolian. so I want to try on it, please help 
 me to gettingstart, and tell me how to join the forces.





 At 2010-12-17 16:09:47,Mathias Bauernospamfor...@gmx.de  wrote:

 Hi,

 On 17.12.2010 02:22, 胡其图 wrote:
 Hi, I am a beginner in open office developer and need your help really!
 I want to build open office in mongolian language specification, and that 
 can support mongolian writing mode(something like td-lr, means top-down 
 and left-right).
 there are have a site to aware of td-lr 
 mode:http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms531187(v=vs.85).aspx


 thank you.

 If I understand correctly, you want to use the traditional Mongolian
 text layout.

 This writing mode is still not supported in OOo. We have a CWS (feature
 branch) that adds a first version of it and it is waiting for
 integration. It needs some more work before we can offer it to users,
 but if you wanted to work on that matter, we could help you getting
 started. There is at least one more developer that is interested in
 that, perhaps you can join forces.

 Regards,
 Mathias

 --
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 OpenOffice.org Engineering at Oracle: http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS
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[dev] Re:Re: [dev] Re:Re: [dev] how to build in specific language

2011-01-06 Thread 胡其图
thank you and this response is i'm always waiting for...




At 2011-01-04 16:05:58,Mathias Bauer nospamfor...@gmx.de wrote:

Hi,

sorry for the late response, but I didn't read mails in the Christmas 
and New Year break. I will answer soon and report the current status.

Regards,
Mathias

On 19.12.2010 14:50, 胡其图 wrote:
 thank you for you help, and you are right, I am living in inner mongolia, 
 china, and we use traditional Mongolian. so I want to try on it, please help 
 me to gettingstart, and tell me how to join the forces.





 At 2010-12-17 16:09:47,Mathias Bauernospamfor...@gmx.de  wrote:

 Hi,

 On 17.12.2010 02:22, 胡其图 wrote:
 Hi, I am a beginner in open office developer and need your help really!
 I want to build open office in mongolian language specification, and that 
 can support mongolian writing mode(something like td-lr, means top-down 
 and left-right).
 there are have a site to aware of td-lr 
 mode:http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms531187(v=vs.85).aspx


 thank you.

 If I understand correctly, you want to use the traditional Mongolian
 text layout.

 This writing mode is still not supported in OOo. We have a CWS (feature
 branch) that adds a first version of it and it is waiting for
 integration. It needs some more work before we can offer it to users,
 but if you wanted to work on that matter, we could help you getting
 started. There is at least one more developer that is interested in
 that, perhaps you can join forces.

 Regards,
 Mathias

 --
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 OpenOffice.org Engineering at Oracle: http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS
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Re: [dev] Re:Re: [dev] how to build in specific language

2011-01-04 Thread Mathias Bauer

Hi,

sorry for the late response, but I didn't read mails in the Christmas 
and New Year break. I will answer soon and report the current status.


Regards,
Mathias

On 19.12.2010 14:50, ?? wrote:

thank you for you help, and you are right, I am living in inner mongolia, 
china, and we use traditional Mongolian. so I want to try on it, please help me 
to gettingstart, and tell me how to join the forces.





At 2010-12-17 16:09:47??Mathias Bauernospamfor...@gmx.de  wrote:


Hi,

On 17.12.2010 02:22, ?? wrote:

Hi, I am a beginner in open office developer and need your help really!
I want to build open office in mongolian language specification, and that can 
support mongolian writing mode(something like td-lr, means top-down and 
left-right).
there are have a site to aware of td-lr 
mode:http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms531187(v=vs.85).aspx


thank you.


If I understand correctly, you want to use the traditional Mongolian
text layout.

This writing mode is still not supported in OOo. We have a CWS (feature
branch) that adds a first version of it and it is waiting for
integration. It needs some more work before we can offer it to users,
but if you wanted to work on that matter, we could help you getting
started. There is at least one more developer that is interested in
that, perhaps you can join forces.

Regards,
Mathias

--
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OpenOffice.org Engineering at Oracle: http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS
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[dev] Re:Re: [dev] how to build in specific language

2010-12-19 Thread 胡其图
thank you for you help, and you are right, I am living in inner mongolia, 
china, and we use traditional Mongolian. so I want to try on it, please help me 
to gettingstart, and tell me how to join the forces.





At 2010-12-17 16:09:47,Mathias Bauer nospamfor...@gmx.de wrote:

Hi,

On 17.12.2010 02:22, 胡其图 wrote:
 Hi, I am a beginner in open office developer and need your help really!
 I want to build open office in mongolian language specification, and that 
 can support mongolian writing mode(something like td-lr, means top-down and 
 left-right).
 there are have a site to aware of td-lr 
 mode:http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms531187(v=vs.85).aspx


 thank you.

If I understand correctly, you want to use the traditional Mongolian 
text layout.

This writing mode is still not supported in OOo. We have a CWS (feature 
branch) that adds a first version of it and it is waiting for 
integration. It needs some more work before we can offer it to users, 
but if you wanted to work on that matter, we could help you getting 
started. There is at least one more developer that is interested in 
that, perhaps you can join forces.

Regards,
Mathias

-- 
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OpenOffice.org Engineering at Oracle: http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS
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Re: [dev] how to build in specific language

2010-12-17 Thread Mathias Bauer

Hi,

On 17.12.2010 02:22, ?? wrote:

Hi, I am a beginner in open office developer and need your help really!
I want to build open office in mongolian language specification, and that can 
support mongolian writing mode(something like td-lr, means top-down and 
left-right).
there are have a site to aware of td-lr 
mode:http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms531187(v=vs.85).aspx


thank you.


If I understand correctly, you want to use the traditional Mongolian 
text layout.


This writing mode is still not supported in OOo. We have a CWS (feature 
branch) that adds a first version of it and it is waiting for 
integration. It needs some more work before we can offer it to users, 
but if you wanted to work on that matter, we could help you getting 
started. There is at least one more developer that is interested in 
that, perhaps you can join forces.


Regards,
Mathias

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[dev] how to build in specific language

2010-12-16 Thread 胡其图
Hi, I am a beginner in open office developer and need your help really!
I want to build open office in mongolian language specification, and that can 
support mongolian writing mode(something like td-lr, means top-down and 
left-right).
there are have a site to aware of td-lr 
mode:http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms531187(v=vs.85).aspx


thank you.