Re: Apache Standard C++ Project chair change

2012-05-16 Thread Stefan Teleman
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Stefan Teleman
stefan.tele...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote:
 Since being tasked as chair, I've seen no activity. There was
 an email from Bill regarding 2 outstanding iCLAs, but the response
 from one of the committers was less than optimistic.

 That's it. No Emails on dev@ or private@, no code activities,
 really no evidence at all of renewed interest/health/activity
 in stdcxx land.

 Am I wrong?

 I haven't received any of Bill's emails. and I noticed that the
 nightly build emails which had re-started in February have stopped.

 I attached a proposed patch for stdcxx-1058 but I haven't received any 
 comments.

I am going to ask the following questions in the open. Perhaps this
way I will get an answer:

1. Apparently, Bill's emails were sent and replied to on the private
list. I have not received any of them, although I am on the private
list. Or at least, I was on the private list as recently as late
March. Is this a case of mailing list malfunction? If that is the
case, it should be fixed.

2. Which Bill are we talking about? I know of two Bills at stdcxx. A
clarification would be welcome.

3. There was a recent and important PMC change at stdcxx.
Congratulations to Jim Jagielski for his new role as PMC Chair. Again,
I learned of this change yesterday, and that only from Jim's email. I
haven't received any notification about Jim's appointment prior to
yesterday, although, to be fair, I knew about it at the beginning of
May, because I read the ASF Board Minutes. Again, why wasn't there any
notification of this change?

4. The nightly build emails, which had restarted towards the end of
February/beginning of March, have stopped. Why is that?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Thank you.

--Stefan

-- 
Stefan Teleman
KDE e.V.
stefan.tele...@gmail.com


RE: Apache Standard C++ Project chair change

2012-05-16 Thread Travis Vitek

On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 5:47 AM, Stefan Teleman stefan.tele...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 
 I am going to ask the following questions in the open. Perhaps this
 way I will get an answer:
 
 1. Apparently, Bill's emails were sent and replied to on the private
 list. I have not received any of them, although I am on the private
 list. Or at least, I was on the private list as recently as late
 March. Is this a case of mailing list malfunction? If that is the
 case, it should be fixed.

The e-mails regarding the ICLAs were sent to the @private list on 5/1.

 
 2. Which Bill are we talking about? I know of two Bills at stdcxx. A
 clarification would be welcome.

William A. Rowe Jr.

 3. There was a recent and important PMC change at stdcxx.
 Congratulations to Jim Jagielski for his new role as PMC Chair. Again,
 I learned of this change yesterday, and that only from Jim's email. I
 haven't received any notification about Jim's appointment prior to
 yesterday, although, to be fair, I knew about it at the beginning of
 May, because I read the ASF Board Minutes. Again, why wasn't there any
 notification of this change?

I read about it in the e-mail entitled 'ASF Board Meeting Summary - April 18, 
2012'. I don't normally read the meeting minutes, but I figured something was 
coming given the kerfuffle over the lack of a March status report (all of which 
was discussed on the @private list).

 4. The nightly build emails, which had restarted towards the end of
 February/beginning of March, have stopped. Why is that?

It looks like the February builds were kicked off manually by Farid. I'm not 
sure if the build system is configured to poll svn automatically or not, but 
the last submit to stdcxx was on 2/20, so there has been no need to do any 
builds since that time.

Travis


Re: Apache Standard C++ Project chair change

2012-05-16 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 5/16/2012 1:08 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
 
 On May 16, 2012, at 1:00 PM, Stefan Teleman wrote:
 
 On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Travis Vitek
 travis.vi...@roguewave.com wrote:

 On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 5:47 AM, Stefan Teleman stefan.tele...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 I am going to ask the following questions in the open. Perhaps this
 way I will get an answer:

 1. Apparently, Bill's emails were sent and replied to on the private
 list. I have not received any of them, although I am on the private
 list. Or at least, I was on the private list as recently as late
 March. Is this a case of mailing list malfunction? If that is the
 case, it should be fixed.

 The e-mails regarding the ICLAs were sent to the @private list on 5/1.

 Well, yes I got that. My problem is that I no longer receive emails
 from @private. I used to, until about end of March/first week of
 April. I even sent a bunch of emails to @private. If this is a
 @private mailing list problem, I'm asking that it be fixed. The ASF
 instructions about the @private mailing list states contact your
 PMC.  So, here I am, contacting the stdcxx PMC about @private. I
 would appreciate an answer.
 
 I defer to Bill (Bill Rowe, that is) regarding whether he is willing
 to share his emails.

Every PMC member should have access to the archives at
https://mail-search.apache.org/pmc/private-arch/stdcxx-private/
simply using your user/pass as with subversion.  I don't but that might
be because I'm a member and not a committer?

https://mail-search.apache.org/members/private-arch/stdcxx-private/
works for all ASF members and I'm seeing the archives, so the earlier
link should still work.