Re: Apache Standard C++ Project chair change
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Stefan Teleman stefan.tele...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: Since being tasked as chair, I've seen no activity. There was an email from Bill regarding 2 outstanding iCLAs, but the response from one of the committers was less than optimistic. That's it. No Emails on dev@ or private@, no code activities, really no evidence at all of renewed interest/health/activity in stdcxx land. Am I wrong? I haven't received any of Bill's emails. and I noticed that the nightly build emails which had re-started in February have stopped. I attached a proposed patch for stdcxx-1058 but I haven't received any comments. I am going to ask the following questions in the open. Perhaps this way I will get an answer: 1. Apparently, Bill's emails were sent and replied to on the private list. I have not received any of them, although I am on the private list. Or at least, I was on the private list as recently as late March. Is this a case of mailing list malfunction? If that is the case, it should be fixed. 2. Which Bill are we talking about? I know of two Bills at stdcxx. A clarification would be welcome. 3. There was a recent and important PMC change at stdcxx. Congratulations to Jim Jagielski for his new role as PMC Chair. Again, I learned of this change yesterday, and that only from Jim's email. I haven't received any notification about Jim's appointment prior to yesterday, although, to be fair, I knew about it at the beginning of May, because I read the ASF Board Minutes. Again, why wasn't there any notification of this change? 4. The nightly build emails, which had restarted towards the end of February/beginning of March, have stopped. Why is that? Inquiring minds want to know. Thank you. --Stefan -- Stefan Teleman KDE e.V. stefan.tele...@gmail.com
RE: Apache Standard C++ Project chair change
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 5:47 AM, Stefan Teleman stefan.tele...@gmail.com wrote: I am going to ask the following questions in the open. Perhaps this way I will get an answer: 1. Apparently, Bill's emails were sent and replied to on the private list. I have not received any of them, although I am on the private list. Or at least, I was on the private list as recently as late March. Is this a case of mailing list malfunction? If that is the case, it should be fixed. The e-mails regarding the ICLAs were sent to the @private list on 5/1. 2. Which Bill are we talking about? I know of two Bills at stdcxx. A clarification would be welcome. William A. Rowe Jr. 3. There was a recent and important PMC change at stdcxx. Congratulations to Jim Jagielski for his new role as PMC Chair. Again, I learned of this change yesterday, and that only from Jim's email. I haven't received any notification about Jim's appointment prior to yesterday, although, to be fair, I knew about it at the beginning of May, because I read the ASF Board Minutes. Again, why wasn't there any notification of this change? I read about it in the e-mail entitled 'ASF Board Meeting Summary - April 18, 2012'. I don't normally read the meeting minutes, but I figured something was coming given the kerfuffle over the lack of a March status report (all of which was discussed on the @private list). 4. The nightly build emails, which had restarted towards the end of February/beginning of March, have stopped. Why is that? It looks like the February builds were kicked off manually by Farid. I'm not sure if the build system is configured to poll svn automatically or not, but the last submit to stdcxx was on 2/20, so there has been no need to do any builds since that time. Travis
Re: Apache Standard C++ Project chair change
On 5/16/2012 1:08 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: On May 16, 2012, at 1:00 PM, Stefan Teleman wrote: On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Travis Vitek travis.vi...@roguewave.com wrote: On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 5:47 AM, Stefan Teleman stefan.tele...@gmail.com wrote: I am going to ask the following questions in the open. Perhaps this way I will get an answer: 1. Apparently, Bill's emails were sent and replied to on the private list. I have not received any of them, although I am on the private list. Or at least, I was on the private list as recently as late March. Is this a case of mailing list malfunction? If that is the case, it should be fixed. The e-mails regarding the ICLAs were sent to the @private list on 5/1. Well, yes I got that. My problem is that I no longer receive emails from @private. I used to, until about end of March/first week of April. I even sent a bunch of emails to @private. If this is a @private mailing list problem, I'm asking that it be fixed. The ASF instructions about the @private mailing list states contact your PMC. So, here I am, contacting the stdcxx PMC about @private. I would appreciate an answer. I defer to Bill (Bill Rowe, that is) regarding whether he is willing to share his emails. Every PMC member should have access to the archives at https://mail-search.apache.org/pmc/private-arch/stdcxx-private/ simply using your user/pass as with subversion. I don't but that might be because I'm a member and not a committer? https://mail-search.apache.org/members/private-arch/stdcxx-private/ works for all ASF members and I'm seeing the archives, so the earlier link should still work.
Re: Apache Standard C++ Project chair change
Since being tasked as chair, I've seen no activity. There was an email from Bill regarding 2 outstanding iCLAs, but the response from one of the committers was less than optimistic. That's it. No Emails on dev@ or private@, no code activities, really no evidence at all of renewed interest/health/activity in stdcxx land. Am I wrong?
Re: Apache Standard C++ Project chair change
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: Since being tasked as chair, I've seen no activity. There was an email from Bill regarding 2 outstanding iCLAs, but the response from one of the committers was less than optimistic. That's it. No Emails on dev@ or private@, no code activities, really no evidence at all of renewed interest/health/activity in stdcxx land. Am I wrong? I haven't received any of Bill's emails. and I noticed that the nightly build emails which had re-started in February have stopped. I attached a proposed patch for stdcxx-1058 but I haven't received any comments. --Stefan -- Stefan Teleman KDE e.V. stefan.tele...@gmail.com