Re: Moving Struts 1 Doc to Confluence
On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 11:21 PM, Paul Benedict pbened...@apache.org wrote: I may have gotten the wrong impression, but it seems all SideWiki content is stored in Google. I have a thing about letting Google owning all the world's data. Okay. It was just an idea for how the community can add commentary to our content without any of us having to do anything. The community could still choose to use it, of course - it's more a question of whether or not we promote it and take feedback from it. I guess what I'm thinking is that, after this long, I can't imagine so much change coming to the S1 docs that converting them all to Confluence and then making the changes will actually save time over just making those changes to what we have. My expectation is that you'd spend far, far more time in the conversion than you'd save in any subsequent updates. That said, though, if that's where your itch lies, you are of course welcome to scratch it. :-) -- Martin Cooper Paul On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Martin Cooper mart...@apache.org wrote: On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 5:42 PM, Paul Benedict pbened...@apache.org wrote: Can we defer the research into another wiki? I would at least get into Confluence and then move everything to something new, if desired. Sigh. Please just take 2 minutes to look at what Sidewiki is. It's not something else we would move our content to, it's an alternative means for the community to add content to existing pages. -- Martin Cooper Paul On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Martin Cooper mart...@apache.org wrote: On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Paul Benedict pbened...@apache.org wrote: Thanks Martin and Wendy for your replies. On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Martin Cooper mart...@apache.org wrote: If you're concerned about the need for committership, then certainly the bar is a bit higher than just filing an iCLA. However, it's absolutely possible to gain committership for documentation, rather than code. I can think of two people, off the top of my head, who have been given committership in Struts primarily for documentation, at least initially. If there are people who are contributing patches for the docs, then perhaps we should be looking at that. I didn't know people could be given committer rights to only documentation. Last time I probed this topic, I was told (and the email thread exists somewhere) that there are no such thing as partial rights -- you get to commit access to everything (or nothing) under the struts group. That's not what I meant. Sorry if I wasn't clear. It's still true that commit access is for all of the Struts repo and not for pieces of it. What I meant is that people can earn commit rights on the basis of their work on documentation. Merit is not confined only to code. -- Martin Cooper Since Confluence is a different system, perhaps things became more lenient when I wasn't looking. One other option that comes to mind is Sidewiki. I haven't actually played with this myself yet, but it seems like it might be an interesting option for allowing anyone to add content and comments alongside the official docs. Anyone have an opinion on how viable, or otherwise, this might be? I wasn't hoping to open up a new wiki discussion ;-) but I do remember some committers saying they're unhappy with Confluence. If all of Struts could put their documentation in one place, I am willing to go wherever the group decides. So I guess what I'm saying is that no, I don't think I have technical objections, but I think there might be other alternatives worth discussing too. Migrating the docs would not be an easy task! Yes, I don't look forward to it, but I think keeping it in SVN is akin to being frozen in an ice-berg. Even I hate editing it. Anyway, with the help of Lukasz, I hope it is easier. Paul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@struts.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@struts.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@struts.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@struts.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@struts.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail:
Re: [VOTE] Accept the XWork project as donated by OpenSymphony
Sorry I haven't really followed the reasoning behind bringing XWork here. Who currently works on XWork and are they already Struts committers? Niall On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 7:11 PM, Martin Cooper mart...@apache.org wrote: This is a vote for the Struts PMC to formally accept the donation of the XWork project from OpenSymphony. This is a required step of the IP Clearance procedure documented here: http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/index.html The XWork artifacts and software grant are available for your perusal here: https://issues.apache.org/struts/browse/WW-3248 Upon successful conclusion of this vote, the code base attached to the above issue will be checked in as a Struts subproject, and the IP Clearance procedure completed. PMC members, please indicate your vote below. [ ] Yes, accept the XWork project [ ] I don't really care one way or the other [ ] No, do not accept the XWork project, for these reasons (please specify) -- Martin Cooper - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@struts.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@struts.apache.org
XWork has landed!
As many of you have no doubt noticed already, I've checked in the XWork code base, and added the Apache License 2.0 headers. The new XWork tree is here: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/struts/xwork/ I have *not* added it to 'current' at this point. I'll leave that to whoever wants to integrate it further. -- Martin Cooper - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@struts.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Accept the XWork project as donated by OpenSymphony
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Niall Pemberton niall.pember...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry I haven't really followed the reasoning behind bringing XWork here. Who currently works on XWork and are they already Struts committers? Committers who would be classified as 'active' are Rainer, Musachy, Wes, Lukasz and Rene, all of whom are Struts committers already. That's largely the point. -- Martin Cooper Niall On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 7:11 PM, Martin Cooper mart...@apache.org wrote: This is a vote for the Struts PMC to formally accept the donation of the XWork project from OpenSymphony. This is a required step of the IP Clearance procedure documented here: http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/index.html The XWork artifacts and software grant are available for your perusal here: https://issues.apache.org/struts/browse/WW-3248 Upon successful conclusion of this vote, the code base attached to the above issue will be checked in as a Struts subproject, and the IP Clearance procedure completed. PMC members, please indicate your vote below. [ ] Yes, accept the XWork project [ ] I don't really care one way or the other [ ] No, do not accept the XWork project, for these reasons (please specify) -- Martin Cooper - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@struts.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@struts.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@struts.apache.org
Re: XWork has landed!
woot! thanks Martin and Rene for getting this done. musachy On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Martin Cooper mart...@apache.org wrote: As many of you have no doubt noticed already, I've checked in the XWork code base, and added the Apache License 2.0 headers. The new XWork tree is here: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/struts/xwork/ I have *not* added it to 'current' at this point. I'll leave that to whoever wants to integrate it further. -- Martin Cooper - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@struts.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@struts.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Accept the XWork project as donated by OpenSymphony
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 6:35 PM, Martin Cooper mart...@apache.org wrote: On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Niall Pemberton niall.pember...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry I haven't really followed the reasoning behind bringing XWork here. Who currently works on XWork and are they already Struts committers? Committers who would be classified as 'active' are Rainer, Musachy, Wes, Lukasz and Rene, all of whom are Struts committers already. That's largely the point. Thanks. +1 from me Niall -- Martin Cooper Niall On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 7:11 PM, Martin Cooper mart...@apache.org wrote: This is a vote for the Struts PMC to formally accept the donation of the XWork project from OpenSymphony. This is a required step of the IP Clearance procedure documented here: http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/index.html The XWork artifacts and software grant are available for your perusal here: https://issues.apache.org/struts/browse/WW-3248 Upon successful conclusion of this vote, the code base attached to the above issue will be checked in as a Struts subproject, and the IP Clearance procedure completed. PMC members, please indicate your vote below. [ ] Yes, accept the XWork project [ ] I don't really care one way or the other [ ] No, do not accept the XWork project, for these reasons (please specify) -- Martin Cooper - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@struts.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@struts.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@struts.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@struts.apache.org
Re: XWork has landed!
2009/12/27 Martin Cooper mart...@apache.org: As many of you have no doubt noticed already, I've checked in the XWork code base, and added the Apache License 2.0 headers. The new XWork tree is here: Hurra!!! Thanks a lot! Regards -- Lukasz http://www.lenart.org.pl/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@struts.apache.org
Re: Moving Struts 1 Doc to Confluence
Niall, You're against moving it? As in you don't like the idea or you would block it from moving forward? Paul On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Niall Pemberton niall.pember...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 6:51 AM, Paul Benedict pbened...@apache.org wrote: I would like to move the Struts 1 documentation from SVN to Confluence. As old (10 years almost?!) as Struts 1 is, today it is not possible for any community member to update it without having SVN commit access. I think it's too high a bar. Does anyone have any technical objections to this? I'm -1 on this - not for technical reasons, but I don't see the point when Struts 1 is effectively in maintenance mode (at best). Are there really many people (even one?) that wants to contribute to Struts 1 docs? Niall Paul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@struts.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@struts.apache.org
RE: [VOTE] Accept the XWork project as donated by OpenSymphony
-Original Message- From: paulus.benedic...@gmail.com [mailto:paulus.benedic...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Paul Benedict Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 14:50 To: Struts Developers List Subject: Re: [VOTE] Accept the XWork project as donated by OpenSymphony [X] Yes, accept the XWork project On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Martin Cooper mart...@apache.org wrote: This is a vote for the Struts PMC to formally accept the donation of the XWork project from OpenSymphony. This is a required step of the IP Clearance procedure documented here: http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/index.html The XWork artifacts and software grant are available for your perusal here: https://issues.apache.org/struts/browse/WW-3248 Upon successful conclusion of this vote, the code base attached to the above issue will be checked in as a Struts subproject, and the IP Clearance procedure completed. PMC members, please indicate your vote below. [ ] Yes, accept the XWork project [ ] I don't really care one way or the other [ ] No, do not accept the XWork project, for these reasons (please specify) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@struts.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@struts.apache.org
RE: [VOTE] Accept the XWork project as donated by OpenSymphony
-Original Message- From: paulus.benedic...@gmail.com [mailto:paulus.benedic...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Paul Benedict Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 14:50 To: Struts Developers List Subject: Re: [VOTE] Accept the XWork project as donated by OpenSymphony [X] Yes, accept the XWork project On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Martin Cooper mart...@apache.org wrote: This is a vote for the Struts PMC to formally accept the donation of the XWork project from OpenSymphony. This is a required step of the IP Clearance procedure documented here: http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/index.html The XWork artifacts and software grant are available for your perusal here: https://issues.apache.org/struts/browse/WW-3248 Upon successful conclusion of this vote, the code base attached to the above issue will be checked in as a Struts subproject, and the IP Clearance procedure completed. PMC members, please indicate your vote below. [ ] Yes, accept the XWork project [ ] I don't really care one way or the other [ ] No, do not accept the XWork project, for these reasons (please specify) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@struts.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@struts.apache.org
RE: [VOTE] Accept the XWork project as donated by OpenSymphony
-Original Message- From: paulus.benedic...@gmail.com [mailto:paulus.benedic...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Paul Benedict Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 14:50 To: Struts Developers List Subject: Re: [VOTE] Accept the XWork project as donated by OpenSymphony [X] Yes, accept the XWork project On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Martin Cooper mart...@apache.org wrote: This is a vote for the Struts PMC to formally accept the donation of the XWork project from OpenSymphony. This is a required step of the IP Clearance procedure documented here: http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/index.html The XWork artifacts and software grant are available for your perusal here: https://issues.apache.org/struts/browse/WW-3248 Upon successful conclusion of this vote, the code base attached to the above issue will be checked in as a Struts subproject, and the IP Clearance procedure completed. PMC members, please indicate your vote below. [ ] Yes, accept the XWork project [ ] I don't really care one way or the other [ ] No, do not accept the XWork project, for these reasons (please specify) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@struts.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@struts.apache.org
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Re: [VOTE] Accept the XWork project as donated by OpenSymphony
[X ] Yes, accept the XWork project On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Jason Pyeron jpye...@pdinc.us wrote: -Original Message- From: paulus.benedic...@gmail.com [mailto:paulus.benedic...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Paul Benedict Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 14:50 To: Struts Developers List Subject: Re: [VOTE] Accept the XWork project as donated by OpenSymphony [X] Yes, accept the XWork project On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Martin Cooper mart...@apache.org wrote: This is a vote for the Struts PMC to formally accept the donation of the XWork project from OpenSymphony. This is a required step of the IP Clearance procedure documented here: http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/index.html The XWork artifacts and software grant are available for your perusal here: https://issues.apache.org/struts/browse/WW-3248 Upon successful conclusion of this vote, the code base attached to the above issue will be checked in as a Struts subproject, and the IP Clearance procedure completed. PMC members, please indicate your vote below. [ ] Yes, accept the XWork project [ ] I don't really care one way or the other [ ] No, do not accept the XWork project, for these reasons (please specify) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@struts.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@struts.apache.org
