Lead ?

2011-11-28 Thread Łukasz Lenart
Who nominated me as a Lead of the Struts 2 project [1] ? ;-)

[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WW


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Re: Lead ?

2011-11-28 Thread Philip Luppens
2011/11/28 Łukasz Lenart lukasz.len...@googlemail.com

 Who nominated me as a Lead of the Struts 2 project [1] ? ;-)


Ah, the wonderful fine print - you _did_ read your acceptance letter when
you submitted your clearance to the ASF, right? Congratulations !! ;-)



 [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WW


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Re: Lead ?

2011-11-28 Thread Łukasz Lenart
2011/11/28 Philip Luppens philip.lupp...@gmail.com:
 2011/11/28 Łukasz Lenart lukasz.len...@googlemail.com

 Who nominated me as a Lead of the Struts 2 project [1] ? ;-)

 Ah, the wonderful fine print - you _did_ read your acceptance letter when
 you submitted your clearance to the ASF, right? Congratulations !! ;-)

I hope it was after Devoxx, if not I own you all a beer ;-) Next year
at Devoxx, hopefully ATM will be around :P


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Re: Lead ?

2011-11-28 Thread Frans Thamura
Waiting ur next big thing in s2.

Restfull?

Congrat...
On Nov 29, 2011 3:33 AM, Łukasz Lenart lukasz.len...@googlemail.com
wrote:

 2011/11/28 Philip Luppens philip.lupp...@gmail.com:
  2011/11/28 Łukasz Lenart lukasz.len...@googlemail.com
 
  Who nominated me as a Lead of the Struts 2 project [1] ? ;-)
 
  Ah, the wonderful fine print - you _did_ read your acceptance letter when
  you submitted your clearance to the ASF, right? Congratulations !! ;-)

 I hope it was after Devoxx, if not I own you all a beer ;-) Next year
 at Devoxx, hopefully ATM will be around :P


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Re: Lead ?

2011-11-28 Thread Łukasz Lenart
2011/11/28 Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org:
 Waiting ur next big thing in s2.

 Restfull?

What you mean ?

 Congrat...

Thanks :-)


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Re: Lead ?

2011-11-28 Thread Frans Thamura
S3 make it rest programming.. may be.

Just idea
On Nov 29, 2011 3:38 AM, Łukasz Lenart lukasz.len...@googlemail.com
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 2011/11/28 Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org:
  Waiting ur next big thing in s2.
 
  Restfull?

 What you mean ?

  Congrat...

 Thanks :-)


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Re: Lead ?

2011-11-28 Thread Steven Benitez
S2 can already achieve restful URLs easily using either the rest plug-in or
the named variable pattern matcher. What specifically are you asking for?

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote:

 S3 make it rest programming.. may be.

 Just idea
 On Nov 29, 2011 3:38 AM, Łukasz Lenart lukasz.len...@googlemail.com
 wrote:

  2011/11/28 Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org:
   Waiting ur next big thing in s2.
  
   Restfull?
 
  What you mean ?
 
   Congrat...
 
  Thanks :-)
 
 
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Re: Lead ?

2011-11-28 Thread Frans Thamura
We use rest intensively with s2. And just launc mervpolis.com with it

And release, total rest for our cimande framework.

Just idea, s3 will become new way of develop rest.. just idea...
On Nov 29, 2011 4:05 AM, Steven Benitez steven.beni...@gmail.com wrote:

 S2 can already achieve restful URLs easily using either the rest plug-in or
 the named variable pattern matcher. What specifically are you asking for?

 On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote:

  S3 make it rest programming.. may be.
 
  Just idea
  On Nov 29, 2011 3:38 AM, Łukasz Lenart lukasz.len...@googlemail.com
  wrote:
 
   2011/11/28 Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org:
Waiting ur next big thing in s2.
   
Restfull?
  
   What you mean ?
  
Congrat...
  
   Thanks :-)
  
  
   Regards
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SpringMVC articles

2011-11-28 Thread Frans Thamura
anyone read this?


http://www.theserverside.com/news/thread.tss?thread_id=63283

any comment for S2's future and direction.



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Re: Using fluido once available

2011-11-28 Thread Martin Cooper
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 6:04 AM, Christian Grobmeier
grobme...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello Martin,

 On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 3:57 AM, Martin Cooper mfncoo...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Christian Grobmeier

 I have added a hero section.

 A what?

 This is the first huge section, showing what the page is about.
 Like here: http://incubator.apache.org/directmemory/

 Unfortunately I needed to remove the h2, h3 etc to make this work
 because of a doxia bug. It seems it is already fixed in trunk, so I
 think we can leave it now and replace it later. (the bug replaces h2
 with div class=sectonh2... - this kills everything)

 I'd say the missing h2, h3, et al, is a showstopper.

 OK, then we can't use fluido now, except we add anything in sequence
 (like it is today). This is terrible to read imho and so the question
 is if we need to wait for a new doxia release then.

The updated version you posted is better. The headings are important.
Just bolding text doesn't provide for accessibility, and doesn't
provide screen readers the means to navigate through the page. We need
to be mindful, with a framework as popular as Struts, that we are
addressing the needs of all readers, so accessibility is very
important.

 I think we should make the text somehow smaller if possible. It is
 very much too read and probably we should just have a teaser on the
 the various paragraphs.

 I disagree. The Recent Releases section needs to come back to the top,
 where it is prominent for the majority of existing users, who are
 returning for the latest update. The remainder of the page is designed
 for those new to Struts, and there needs to be enough meat right there
 on the home page to hold their interest and entice them to stay on the
 site, rather than just provide a bunch of links and hope they'll click
 on one.

 I didn't mean smaller in terms of font size, sorry for being unclear.

Neither did I. :-)

 Actually the news section is on top right and very prominent to me.
 Struts has an Announcements page were everything is detail. This
 page is pretty useless if we write nearly everything on the frontpage.
 In addtion there are release notes. There are 3 different pages
 containing similar information. I don't think this is good and should
 be streamlined.

The front page serves two sets of primary readers. Number one is the
people who are looking for the latest update of the framework. That is
why release notes is top and center on the existing site. Struts is so
well known now that updates is *the* most needed information. Number
two is introductory text for people new to Struts - just enough
information for them to get oriented about the framework and
understand where they need to go next. Everybody outside these two
groups is on the way to somewhere else when they come to the front
page.

 In addition, the current news on the front page are from 2008 two
 times and one from 2011. So... the 2008 news are not really helpful to
 anybody. I would remove them or keep them on the annoucments page if
 necessary.

I agree with you about the 2.0.14 release. I expect it's still there
just because nobody got around to removing it. The 1.3.10 release
needs to stay because there are tens of thousands of people using
Struts 1 in production, and they still need to be able to see what the
latest release of that is, even if we think it's really old.

 In addtion, we should use some kind of news format. Like:

 10.12.2001
 Struts 2.2.3.1 released
 This release contains a security fix.
 See: Release Note

 And so on. I mean: date, short headline, short content (just one
 sentence) and the link to the release notes.

 For releases, that's exactly what Recent Releases is for, and that's
 why it should be at the top. Other announcements are on the
 Announcements page, linked from the menu.

 As mentioned it is on top (right).

Only if you have a large screen *and* you dedicate that large screen
to your browser window. See more below.

 Announcements page contains only the 2011 release. And recent
 releases cotains 2008 releases. Not very recent.

See above.

 So - what do you think abou it?

 I see some significant issues with the sample home page:

 * The dark menu bar thing at the top wraps in a weird way, and starts
 to cover up the logos, which looks really bad. (And it's not obvious
 that it's a wrapping issue unless you have enough real estate to
 resize and avoid the wrap.) There are also weird garbage artifacts
 when you work with this menu bar. Given that it provides no additional
 functionality, is very ugly, and doesn't work well, I'd recommend
 scrapping it.

 This dark menu bar is called topbar in fludio terms. It is pretty
 easy to disable it and I have no problems with doing that. Basically
 it contains the same link as on the left side. I have left it in b/c
 many people seem to like that nowadays. Anyway, I am with you and
 remove it.

 Btw, the covering of the logo is b/c the topbar is fixed position.
 This 

Re: SpringMVC articles

2011-11-28 Thread Ian Roughley
I know someone who might have just that answer… ;-)

On Nov 28, 2011, at 10:24 PM, Frans Thamura wrote:

 anyone read this?
 
 
 http://www.theserverside.com/news/thread.tss?thread_id=63283
 
 any comment for S2's future and direction.
 
 
 
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Re: SpringMVC articles

2011-11-28 Thread Frans Thamura
s2 new lead ;)

hehehe :)


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On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Ian Roughley rough...@gmail.com wrote:
 I know someone who might have just that answer… ;-)

 On Nov 28, 2011, at 10:24 PM, Frans Thamura wrote:

 anyone read this?


 http://www.theserverside.com/news/thread.tss?thread_id=63283

 any comment for S2's future and direction.



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