Keeping STATUS Current (was Re: friday ha ha)

2006-04-20 Thread Ted Husted
On 4/20/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The bottom line is, IMO, the Struts project hasn't been as good as it could
 be at sharing our roadmap and vision with the user community.  It is a
 personal goal of mine to improve this, and to see the continued success of
 both projects.

One habit that Apache HTTPD practices, that we never learned at
Jakarta, is the care and feeding of a STATUS file. Here's a link to
the current HTTPD status file, which they post to the dev@ on a
regular basis.

* http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/httpd/httpd/trunk/STATUS

We do have a starter STATUS file in the SVN,

* http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/struts/STATUS.txt

but if we want to get back to roadmap and communcation basics, I'd
suggest this is the place to start.

-Ted.

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Re: Keeping STATUS Current (was Re: friday ha ha)

2006-04-20 Thread Don Brown
I like the httpd one, clearly organized into sections that would be very helpful for guiding development.  I think this 
is a great idea and vote we should adopt it too.


Will shale, action, and tiles each have one, or will there be one for the whole 
project?

Don

Ted Husted wrote:

On 4/20/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

The bottom line is, IMO, the Struts project hasn't been as good as it could
be at sharing our roadmap and vision with the user community.  It is a
personal goal of mine to improve this, and to see the continued success of
both projects.


One habit that Apache HTTPD practices, that we never learned at
Jakarta, is the care and feeding of a STATUS file. Here's a link to
the current HTTPD status file, which they post to the dev@ on a
regular basis.

* http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/httpd/httpd/trunk/STATUS

We do have a starter STATUS file in the SVN,

* http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/struts/STATUS.txt

but if we want to get back to roadmap and communcation basics, I'd
suggest this is the place to start.

-Ted.

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Re: Keeping STATUS Current (was Re: friday ha ha)

2006-04-20 Thread Don Brown
Looking at it further, this could all be done with JIRA how, which would probably be an easier interface to use and have 
the bonus of collecting comments and patches.  Perhaps we could use the Priority value to signify the type of issue 
much like that status file does for httpd?


The WebWork team goes so far as using JIRA tickets for simple task management (assigning tickets, notifying the start of 
work on a ticket, etc).  Perhaps we should use that more, then have JIRA send a status summary to dev@ much like 
Bugzilla does today.  They also are strict about assigning tickets to milestones, like we've started to do.  This will 
help guide expectations on what will be in what release.


Don

Ted Husted wrote:

On 4/20/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

The bottom line is, IMO, the Struts project hasn't been as good as it could
be at sharing our roadmap and vision with the user community.  It is a
personal goal of mine to improve this, and to see the continued success of
both projects.


One habit that Apache HTTPD practices, that we never learned at
Jakarta, is the care and feeding of a STATUS file. Here's a link to
the current HTTPD status file, which they post to the dev@ on a
regular basis.

* http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/httpd/httpd/trunk/STATUS

We do have a starter STATUS file in the SVN,

* http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/struts/STATUS.txt

but if we want to get back to roadmap and communcation basics, I'd
suggest this is the place to start.

-Ted.

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Re: Keeping STATUS Current (was Re: friday ha ha)

2006-04-20 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
Following Don's comments... with Java Web Parts, we have taken to using
the Feature Requests feature at SourceForge for all work being done,
regardless of whether it is actually a feature request or not... since
you can open a ticket, assign it, prioritize, comment, etc., it gives us
all one place to go to and see what tasks we plan to accomplish, and if
anyone has assigned it to themselves to indicate they are actively working
on it.  Sounds like JIRA can serve the same purpose, so I like Don's
suggestion.

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On Thu, April 20, 2006 2:30 pm, Don Brown said:
 Looking at it further, this could all be done with JIRA how, which would
 probably be an easier interface to use and have
 the bonus of collecting comments and patches.  Perhaps we could use the
 Priority value to signify the type of issue
 much like that status file does for httpd?

 The WebWork team goes so far as using JIRA tickets for simple task
 management (assigning tickets, notifying the start of
 work on a ticket, etc).  Perhaps we should use that more, then have JIRA
 send a status summary to dev@ much like
 Bugzilla does today.  They also are strict about assigning tickets to
 milestones, like we've started to do.  This will
 help guide expectations on what will be in what release.

 Don

 Ted Husted wrote:
 On 4/20/06, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The bottom line is, IMO, the Struts project hasn't been as good as it
 could
 be at sharing our roadmap and vision with the user community.  It is a
 personal goal of mine to improve this, and to see the continued success
 of
 both projects.

 One habit that Apache HTTPD practices, that we never learned at
 Jakarta, is the care and feeding of a STATUS file. Here's a link to
 the current HTTPD status file, which they post to the dev@ on a
 regular basis.

 * http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/httpd/httpd/trunk/STATUS

 We do have a starter STATUS file in the SVN,

 * http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/struts/STATUS.txt

 but if we want to get back to roadmap and communcation basics, I'd
 suggest this is the place to start.

 -Ted.

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