Re: [dev] tcvt: very useful for seeing more at once
* Markus Wichmann [2021-10-14 20:24]: On Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 12:28:52PM -0400, Greg Reagle wrote: FYI Useful, but a lot of wasted screen space on my monitor: man dwm MUCH better! I see the entire man page: tcvt -c 4 man dwm You know, if you were trying to shill the program, you might have done better if you had provided the homepage. I searched for "tcvt", and all I found was a Dutch site for something to do with VTOL, and a registry for the TransCatheter Valve Treatment. I am reasonably sure you meant neither. I guess this: https://subdivi.de/~helmut/tcvt/ Cheers Jochen signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [dev] tcvt: very useful for seeing more at once
On 21/10/15 07:03, Martin Tournoij wrote: > Note that mandoc has a default of 78 if not set; GNU man (and maybe some > others?) do indeed take up the full width by default, but mandoc won't take up > more than 78. I've mostly used GNU man, and from my briefly trying other versions of man I didn't go into that much detail regarding whether they set MANWIDTH or not, so I don't know. In any case, navigating man pages using the default pager is easy enough. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [dev] tcvt: very useful for seeing more at once
On 21/10/15 06:23AM, Greg Reagle wrote: > On Thu, Oct 14, 2021, at 9:56 PM, Rudy Dellomas (dther) wrote: > > [...] > > `tmux new ';' splitw -h man dwm` > > No, this does not do what tcvt does. Have you actually tried it? Nor does > the MANWIDTH variable. > You're right, sorry, my mistake. I realised after sending that that `tcvt` creates one long terminal as opposed to 4 terminal panes. That's useful behaviour that I'm surprised there isn't a tmux command for. I could see myself using it to monitor logs and such. I tried to whip something up using `copy-mode`, which allows the reading of another pane's history using using the flags `-t` and `-s`. I couldn't get it to work, but I'm sure it would be possible, if not easy, to make some kind of special .tmuxrc. Using tmux rather than inventing a new terminal emulator would be worth it (in my opinion) in preventing strange printing behaviour.
Re: [dev] tcvt: very useful for seeing more at once
On Thu, Oct 14, 2021, at 9:56 PM, Rudy Dellomas (dther) wrote: > `tcvt` is a python terminal multiplexer, which is a bit excessive for the > purpose of saving terminal columns. Even forgoing that GNU man has > $MANWIDTH, why not just use vertical split tmux? It's faster (written in > C) and is much more versatile. This would do more or less the same: > > `tmux new ';' splitw -h man dwm` No, this does not do what tcvt does. Have you actually tried it? Nor does the MANWIDTH variable.
Re: [dev] Tiny VMs and parsers
buzzard.2 is a classic: https://www.ioccc.org/years.html#1992 Despite being an entry to a competition, the code itself is actually barely obfuscated, just very terse, and it comes with pretty good design docs. Stack machines and forth are rather good in general. I started by reading https://users.ece.cmu.edu/~koopman/stack_computers/ and then found https://forthworks.com/retro/ which vm is very pleasant to look at and has interesting assembler. You can also try looking at https://wiki.xxiivv.com/site/uxn.html For something more high level, I myself am currently eyeing Urbit. Though, there's plenty of crypto/NFT cultism, their core stuff is not really developer friendly, and I don't like how their VM reimplements half of the standard C library, so I wouldn't really endorse it. >preferred non lisp, supporting infix notation Eeeh, prefix/postfix notation makes things so much easier. Just embrace it.
Re: [dev] tcvt: very useful for seeing more at once
On Thu Oct 14, 2021 at 9:56 PM EDT, Rudy Dellomas (dther) wrote: > [...] why not just use vertical split tmux? It's faster (written in > C) and is much more versatile. This would do more or less the same: > > `tmux new ';' splitw -h man dwm` For me, this command splits into two shells, only one of which displays the man page. The advantage of tcvt over this is that there are multiple columns, all displaying the same man page (only one invocation of man), each column as if it were attached the bottom of the previous one.
