Re: NSS 3.12.* maintanence after the NSS 3.13 release?

2011-10-18 Thread Brian Smith
There is one known regression. Also, the BEAST workaround is an incompatible 
change for some applications. Otherwise, I expect it to be drop-in compatible.

- Brian

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 Subject: Re: NSS 3.12.* maintanence after the NSS 3.13 release?
 Brian,
 
 On 10/17/2011 15:55, Brian Smith wrote:
  NSS release announcements are made on the Mozilla dev-tech-crypto
  mailing list:
 
  http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.tech.crypto/browse_thread/thread/28c9fd2d65f7bd55#
 Thanks, I wasn't on the list then.
 
 It looks like there is one binary incompatible change, SSL 2.0
 disabled by default. I'm not sure yet if this will be a problem.
 
 Other than this change, do we expect this release to be a binary
 compatible drop-in replacement for 3.12.x ?
 
 Julien
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Re: NSS 3.12.* maintanence after the NSS 3.13 release?

2011-10-18 Thread Brian Smith
I just emailed the mailing list about it: bug 693228. It is a crashing bug in 
NSS_Init.

- Original Message -
 From: Julien Pierre julien.pie...@oracle.com
 To: Brian Smith bsm...@mozilla.com
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 Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 2:55:11 PM
 Subject: Re: NSS 3.12.* maintanence after the NSS 3.13 release?
 Brian,
 
 On 10/18/2011 14:42, Brian Smith wrote:
  There is one known regression.
 Do you mean one separate from the SSL 2.0 change, and BEAST ? If so,
 which one ?
  Also, the BEAST workaround is an incompatible change for some
  applications.
 From what I have read of the BEAST workaround discussion, it breaks
 certain older existing SSL servers, notably some of Oracle's servers
 (not NSS based servers). But this only affects client code.
 The reverse BEAST code change is is on the server side too. Do we know
 that it breaks any old browsers ?
 
 I'm more concerned about server side. My understanding is that the
 BEAST
 workaround doesn't really help a server app. It is the client that
 really needs to be patched for the specific exploit. The server cannot
 really prevent the exploit with an SSL/TLS stack fix. The server-side
 code change would help only if someone create a theoretical reverse
 BEAST type of exploit.
 
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Re: NSS 3.12.* maintanence after the NSS 3.13 release?

2011-10-18 Thread Julien Pierre

Brian,

On 10/18/2011 14:42, Brian Smith wrote:

There is one known regression.
Do you mean one separate from the SSL 2.0 change, and BEAST ? If so, 
which one ?

Also, the BEAST workaround is an incompatible change for some applications.
From what I have read of the BEAST workaround discussion, it breaks 
certain older existing SSL servers, notably some of Oracle's servers 
(not NSS based servers). But this only affects client code.
The reverse BEAST code change is is on the server side too. Do we know 
that it breaks any old browsers ?


I'm more concerned about server side. My understanding is that the BEAST 
workaround doesn't really help a server app. It is the client that 
really needs to be patched for the specific exploit. The server cannot 
really prevent the exploit with an SSL/TLS stack fix. The server-side 
code change would help only if someone create a theoretical reverse 
BEAST type of exploit.


Julien

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Re: NSS 3.12.* maintanence after the NSS 3.13 release?

2011-10-18 Thread Julien Pierre

Brian,

On 10/17/2011 15:55, Brian Smith wrote:

NSS release announcements are made on the Mozilla dev-tech-crypto mailing list:

http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.tech.crypto/browse_thread/thread/28c9fd2d65f7bd55#

Thanks, I wasn't on the list then.

 It looks like there is one binary incompatible change, SSL 2.0 
disabled by default. I'm not sure yet if this will be a problem.


Other than this change, do we expect this release to be a binary 
compatible drop-in replacement for 3.12.x ?


Julien

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Re: NSS 3.12.* maintanence after the NSS 3.13 release?

2011-10-18 Thread Julien Pierre

Brian,

Thanks for adding me to this list. I had not heard that NSS 3.13 had 
shipped. What does this release include ? I don't see any release notes 
beyond 3.12.6 at 
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/pki/nss/release_notes.html .


Julien

On 10/17/2011 14:28, Brian Smith wrote:

Are we going to stop maintaining NSS 3.12 after the 3.13 release? People have 
asked if we were going to backport bug 665814 to 3.12, specifically. My 
understanding is that Bob proposed that the 3.13 release will mark the end of 
3.12 maintenance. This is why we (Mozilla) upgraded to 3.13 instead of a 3.12.* 
release.

Thanks,
Brian

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Re: NSS 3.12.* maintanence after the NSS 3.13 release?

2011-10-17 Thread Brian Smith
NSS release announcements are made on the Mozilla dev-tech-crypto mailing list:

http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.tech.crypto/browse_thread/thread/28c9fd2d65f7bd55#

- Brian

- Original Message -
 From: Julien Pierre julien.pie...@oracle.com
 To: Brian Smith bsm...@mozilla.com
 Cc: mozilla's crypto code discussion list 
 dev-tech-crypto@lists.mozilla.org
 Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 3:34:40 PM
 Subject: Re: NSS 3.12.* maintanence after the NSS 3.13 release?
 Brian,
 
 Thanks for adding me to this list. I had not heard that NSS 3.13 had
 shipped. What does this release include ? I don't see any release
 notes
 beyond 3.12.6 at
 http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/pki/nss/release_notes.html .
 
 Julien
 
 On 10/17/2011 14:28, Brian Smith wrote:
  Are we going to stop maintaining NSS 3.12 after the 3.13 release?
  People have asked if we were going to backport bug 665814 to 3.12,
  specifically. My understanding is that Bob proposed that the 3.13
  release will mark the end of 3.12 maintenance. This is why we
  (Mozilla) upgraded to 3.13 instead of a 3.12.* release.
 
  Thanks,
  Brian
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