Re: What is Fedora?
On Wed, 2023-06-21 at 17:18 -0400, JT wrote: > > > How are you downloading RHEL ISO images? > > I already sent you the URL in a prior response: > https://developers.redhat.com/products/rhel/download > > > Please do not tell me to take a deep breath and relax. Show some respect. > > I am being respectful, I've been trying to explain to you that this isn't > anything to get > stressed out over. I've calmly addressed the questions you've raised. > What you are worried about is not possible because of the legal requirements > of the GPL which Red > Hat has accepted by using GPL licensed code. > > You're stressing out over a non issue... you dont need to stress over this... > aka... you can > relax... it's going to be ok. > > If me addressing your concerns and telling you that you dont need to worry is > disrespectful... > well... I'm sorry that you think I'm being disrespectful. I'm trying to make > you feel better by > explaining that you dont need to be worried. > I did say I tried this, but nobody is listening... Attached: One mage saying Download/Signup One image when you click on download at no cost and you need to login or create an account. Beauty of using clean VM's https://pasteboard.co/eCfDDb13IIOL.png https://pasteboard.co/AXwSb6XWmeTN.png Regards Phil Associations: * Debian Maintainer (DM) * Fedora/EPEL Maintainer. * Contributor member of the AlmaLinux foundation. WWW: https://kathenas.org Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/kathenasorg Twitter: @kathenasorg Instagram: @kathenasorg IRC: kathenas GPG: 724AA9B52F024C8B signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: What is Fedora?
On Wed, 2023-06-21 at 17:39 -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 5:09 PM Philip Wyett > wrote: > > > It has much to do. Fedora is a community apparently Red Hat no longer > > needs. The now ELN > > backend > > can satisfy pre testing and could make fedora redundant. > > ELN is a build of (some) Fedora packages with EL-specific options, so > it requires Fedora. > > ELN can exist off an internal non fedora tree. Just depends who is updating the tree. Regards Phil -- *** Playing the game for the games own sake. *** Associations: * Debian Maintainer (DM) * Fedora/EPEL Maintainer. * Contributor member of the AlmaLinux foundation. WWW: https://kathenas.org Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/kathenasorg Twitter: @kathenasorg Instagram: @kathenasorg IRC: kathenas GPG: 724AA9B52F024C8B signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: What is Fedora?
On Wed, 2023-06-21 at 17:07 -0400, JT wrote: > > Who says that developer account will be available soon, Have Red Hat made > > a commitment to keep > it? > > People want to update a system and not fart about, updating via ISO or > > installing a new > system every 6 months is a joke. > > You can download ISOs without a dev account. Someone could easily get the > SRPMS as they are > entitled to have and compile them and make a 3rd party repo that everyone > could add and update > from, so people wouldn't have to re-install. My point is that Red Hat is not > able to lock down > the code because of the GPL. There will always be a way around anything they > try to put in > place. > > People in the FLOSS world really care about this stuff and are also really > stubborn... if Red Hat > tries to do anything like this, there will be thousands of people that will > come together to work > around everything Red Hat attempts to put in place to block people. > > Don't worry, take a deep breath and relax, the code will remain open source > and it will remain > freely available. > > > > On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 4:56 PM Philip Wyett > wrote: > > On Wed, 2023-06-21 at 16:49 -0400, JT wrote: > > > > I believe the GPL asks you never have to make agreement to access GPL > > > > code. > > > > > > Correct. Per the GPL if you have the binary you have a legal right to > > > the code. > > > Also the GPL does contain clauses that stipulate that outside agreements > > > cannot excuse anyone > > > from the conditions of the license, see the No Surrender of Others' > > > Freedom section. > > > > > > Also keep in mind that you can download the RHEL ISOs for free without a > > > dev license from > > this > > > page: https://developers.redhat.com/products/rhel/download You can't > > > update the packages, > > but > > > you can install that version of RHEL on your computer and use it. So > > > anyone grabbing that > > ISO > > > has legal right to the source code for the base system. > > > > > > > > > > Who says that developer account will be available soon, Have Red Hat made a > > commitment to keep > > it? > > > > People want to update a system and not fart about, updating via ISO or > > installing a new system > > every 6 months is a joke. > > > > Regards > > > > Phil > > Hi, How are you downloading RHEL ISO images? Please do not tell me to take a deep breath and relax. Show some respect. Regards Phil -- *** Playing the game for the games own sake. *** Associations: * Debian Maintainer (DM) * Fedora/EPEL Maintainer. * Contributor member of the AlmaLinux foundation. WWW: https://kathenas.org Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/kathenasorg Twitter: @kathenasorg Instagram: @kathenasorg IRC: kathenas GPG: 724AA9B52F024C8B signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: What is Fedora?
On Wed, 2023-06-21 at 16:58 -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 4:07 PM Philip Wyett > wrote: > > Let us face it our efforts with the Fedora project are not valued and it is > > a means nothing to > > the > > new corporate IBM/Red Hat enterprise systems that we have to struggle to > > get access to srpms, > > to > > make a community. What is community now to Red Hat? > > I'm not particularly inclined to feel favorably toward Red Hat, but I > don't see what the availability of RHEL srpms has to do with Fedora. > We're upstream of RHEL. > > On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 4:26 PM Gerald Henriksen wrote: > > My interpretation of the blog post, combined with recent actions > > towards Fedora by Red Hat, is that Red Hat now views CentOS Stream as > > the new "Fedora" for basing future versions of RHEL. > > Not really. Fedora is the basis for new RHEL major versions (e.g. RHEL > 10). CentOS Stream is the next RHEL minor version (9.X). > > Hi Ben, It has much to do. Fedora is a community apparently Red Hat no longer needs. The now ELN backend can satisfy pre testing and could make fedora redundant. Regards Phil WWW: https://kathenas.org Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/kathenasorg Twitter: @kathenasorg Instagram: @kathenasorg IRC: kathenas GPG: 724AA9B52F024C8B signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: What is Fedora?
On Wed, 2023-06-21 at 16:49 -0400, JT wrote: > > I believe the GPL asks you never have to make agreement to access GPL code. > > Correct. Per the GPL if you have the binary you have a legal right to the > code. > Also the GPL does contain clauses that stipulate that outside agreements > cannot excuse anyone > from the conditions of the license, see the No Surrender of Others' Freedom > section. > > Also keep in mind that you can download the RHEL ISOs for free without a dev > license from this > page: https://developers.redhat.com/products/rhel/download You can't update > the packages, but > you can install that version of RHEL on your computer and use it. So anyone > grabbing that ISO > has legal right to the source code for the base system. > I maybe wrong but even the ISO images require a Red Hat account. I know they do as I just tried via clean VM. Regards Phil -- *** Playing the game for the games own sake. *** Associations: * Debian Maintainer (DM) * Fedora/EPEL Maintainer. * Contributor member of the AlmaLinux foundation. WWW: https://kathenas.org Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/kathenasorg Twitter: @kathenasorg Instagram: @kathenasorg IRC: kathenas GPG: 724AA9B52F024C8B signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: What is Fedora?
On Wed, 2023-06-21 at 16:49 -0400, JT wrote: > > I believe the GPL asks you never have to make agreement to access GPL code. > > Correct. Per the GPL if you have the binary you have a legal right to the > code. > Also the GPL does contain clauses that stipulate that outside agreements > cannot excuse anyone > from the conditions of the license, see the No Surrender of Others' Freedom > section. > > Also keep in mind that you can download the RHEL ISOs for free without a dev > license from this > page: https://developers.redhat.com/products/rhel/download You can't update > the packages, but > you can install that version of RHEL on your computer and use it. So anyone > grabbing that ISO > has legal right to the source code for the base system. > > Who says that developer account will be available soon, Have Red Hat made a commitment to keep it? People want to update a system and not fart about, updating via ISO or installing a new system every 6 months is a joke. Regards Phil -- *** Playing the game for the games own sake. *** Associations: * Debian Maintainer (DM) * Fedora/EPEL Maintainer. * Contributor member of the AlmaLinux foundation. WWW: https://kathenas.org Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/kathenasorg Twitter: @kathenasorg Instagram: @kathenasorg IRC: kathenas GPG: 724AA9B52F024C8B signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: What is Fedora?
On Wed, 2023-06-21 at 16:26 -0400, Gerald Henriksen wrote: > On Wed, 21 Jun 2023 21:06:40 +0100, you wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > Obviously many will have seen: > > > > https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/furthering-evolution-centos-stream > > > > and see, where EL (contributors like you of fedora/EPEL) have been knocked > > down: > > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2215299 > > > > Let us face it our efforts with the Fedora project are not valued and it is > > a means nothing to > > the > > new corporate IBM/Red Hat enterprise systems that we have to struggle to > > get access to srpms, > > to > > make a community. What is community now to Red Hat? > > My interpretation of the blog post, combined with recent actions > towards Fedora by Red Hat, is that Red Hat now views CentOS Stream as > the new "Fedora" for basing future versions of RHEL. > > Hi, Red Hat cannot do all the work that fedora does and CentOS stream is a staging post currently for the break off that will become RHEL. This may change and fedora becomes a non-entity to be discarded, but only Red Hat can tell us. Regards Phil -- *** Playing the game for the games own sake. *** Associations: * Debian Maintainer (DM) * Fedora/EPEL Maintainer. * Contributor member of the AlmaLinux foundation. WWW: https://kathenas.org Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/kathenasorg Twitter: @kathenasorg Instagram: @kathenasorg IRC: kathenas GPG: 724AA9B52F024C8B signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: What is Fedora?
On Wed, 2023-06-21 at 16:23 -0400, JT wrote: > Red Hat doesn't need to mention it. It's a legal requirement of the GPL... > anyone using the > binaries has legal right to the source code. > > As for Red Hat cancelling users accounts who pull the source build binaries > and share it... > that'd probably land them in a lawsuit, because as long as that person who > originally downloaded > the code has the binaries... they are legally entitled to the source for them > for as long as they > have the binaries. > > Furthermore, anyone who shares a binary they build from RH sources... has a > legal requirement to > share the source onto the next person. > > These are precisely the type of issues with the MIT/BSD license that Stallman > wanted to address > with the GPL. > > Red Hat could terminate the dev license... and put RHEL entirely behind a > paywall, but they have > not stated that they are doing so. And I would imagine that they would get a > ton of backlash if > they did considering that was how they addressed the reaction the > CentOS/CentOS Stream change. > But even if they did that, they still have to provide source to anyone with > the binaries. So all > it would take is one person buying a license, and then releasing the code. > Even if Red Hat banned that account, there would just be another account to > do the same thing > again. Red Hat would have to play whack-a-mole to try to stop people from > doing that constantly. > > > Whack-a-mole is not what we want to play and we are aware of MIT and GPL licenses. What the community needs is a free source of entry. I believe the GPL asks you never have to make agreement to access GPL code. However Red Hat have not defined what a customer and partner is, but this requires having a Red Hat account which requires agreeing to terms etc. to access the srpms. Regards Phil -- *** Playing the game for the games own sake. *** Associations: * Debian Maintainer (DM) * Fedora/EPEL Maintainer. * Contributor member of the AlmaLinux foundation. WWW: https://kathenas.org Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/kathenasorg Twitter: @kathenasorg Instagram: @kathenasorg IRC: kathenas GPG: 724AA9B52F024C8B signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: What is Fedora?
On Wed, 2023-06-21 at 16:10 -0400, JT wrote: > > I see an impasse here. Why contribute to fedora when Red Hat will lock it > > down in other > products? > > They literally cannot "Lock it down" due to the GPL. Anyone using RHEL > binaries has legal right > to the code. > What they seem to have done is limit source code access to those who are > actually using RHEL, > which is all the GPL requires. The GPL does not require you to share source > code with every > person on the planet, only those using your binaries. > If someone wants the source, they can sign up for a free DEV license for > RHEL, and that entitles > them to the source code for the RHEL things they are using. > The Free dev account was never mentioned in the announcement. Can Red Hat confirm it will stay and those who access srpms, rebuild then for other purposes will not have accounts cancelled? Regards Phil -- *** Playing the game for the games own sake. *** Associations: * Debian Maintainer (DM) * Fedora/EPEL Maintainer. * Contributor member of the AlmaLinux foundation. WWW: https://kathenas.org Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/kathenasorg Twitter: @kathenasorg Instagram: @kathenasorg IRC: kathenas GPG: 724AA9B52F024C8B signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
What is Fedora?
Hi all, Obviously many will have seen: https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/furthering-evolution-centos-stream and see, where EL (contributors like you of fedora/EPEL) have been knocked down: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2215299 Let us face it our efforts with the Fedora project are not valued and it is a means nothing to the new corporate IBM/Red Hat enterprise systems that we have to struggle to get access to srpms, to make a community. What is community now to Red Hat? I see an impasse here. Why contribute to fedora when Red Hat will lock it down in other products? Regards Phil -- *** Playing the game for the games own sake. *** Associations: * Debian Maintainer (DM) * Fedora/EPEL Maintainer. * Contributor member of the AlmaLinux foundation. WWW: https://kathenas.org Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/kathenasorg Twitter: @kathenasorg Instagram: @kathenasorg IRC: kathenas GPG: 724AA9B52F024C8B signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Red Hat Stream ONLY, Orphaning packages
On Wed, 2023-06-21 at 12:33 -0500, Jonathan Wright via devel wrote: > If you'll add me as admin/owner on the packages I'll continue to maintain > them. FAS jonathanspw > > Especially interested in remmina since I use it nearly every day. > > Hi, I have added you with commit access for now as we discussed on Alma Linux mattermost chat. Regards Phil -- *** Playing the game for the games own sake. *** Associations: * Debian Maintainer (DM) * Fedora/EPEL Maintainer. * Contributor member of the AlmaLinux foundation. WWW: https://kathenas.org Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/kathenasorg Twitter: @kathenasorg Instagram: @kathenasorg IRC: kathenas GPG: 724AA9B52F024C8B signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Red Hat Stream ONLY, Orphaning packages
Hi all, After the announcement below today. https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/furthering-evolution-centos-stream I will be in 5 days detaching myself and orphaning all packages I have involvement with. Regards Phil -- *** Playing the game for the games own sake. *** Associations: * Debian Maintainer (DM) * Fedora/EPEL Maintainer. * Contributor member of the AlmaLinux foundation. WWW: https://kathenas.org Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/kathenasorg Twitter: @kathenasorg Instagram: @kathenasorg IRC: kathenas GPG: 724AA9B52F024C8B signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: releng-bot owns my package in SCM - belcard
On Tue, 2023-06-20 at 09:40 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Sun, Jun 18, 2023 at 05:04:19PM +0100, Philip Wyett wrote: > > On Sun, 2023-06-18 at 17:35 +0200, Kalev Lember wrote: > > > On Sun, Jun 18, 2023 at 12:01 PM Philip Wyett > > > wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > After completing a package-review for belcard[1], I tried to create the > > > > repo, seems that > > > > the > > > > repo > > > > after a couple of attempts got created, but is owned by 'releng-bot' > > > > and not myself > > > > 'kathenas'. > > > > How > > > > can I get this resolved? > > > > > > Hi Phil, > > > > > > I would file a releng ticket at https://pagure.io/releng/issues > > > > > > -- > > > Kalev > > > > Hi Kalev, > > > > Thanks for the tip. Been done now. > > Just FYI, this very occasionally happens when there's some issue right > when it's trying to create the new repo. The releng-bot user ends up > owning the project instead of the submitter. > > Filing a releng ticket is the correct thing to do here and this one is > all fixed up. > > kevin > Hi Kevin, Yes, all fixed now. An unusual quirk that I now know about. :-) Regards Phil -- *** Playing the game for the games own sake. *** Associations: * Debian Maintainer (DM) * Fedora/EPEL Maintainer. * Contributor member of the AlmaLinux foundation. WWW: https://kathenas.org Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/kathenasorg Twitter: @kathenasorg Instagram: @kathenasorg IRC: kathenas GPG: 724AA9B52F024C8B signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: SIG proposal: Multimedia SIG
On Mon, 2023-06-19 at 18:01 -0400, JT wrote: > In the original post, I took private to mean its own dedicated list... not > that it'd be hidden > from view from everyone. IMHO everything with Fedora should be in the open. > Bugs should be > reported upstream, so I dont see why there would need to be any confidential > information dealt > with by the SIG. > Security exploits for upstream applications shouldnt be dealt with upstream > and not here with a > Fedora SIG. There's no reason for exploit discussion of that nature unless > its something Fedora > has introduced, at which point it's relevant and should be public so users > can be aware and > address/mitigate any potential threat. > JT > Hi, I agree. Regards Phil -- *** Playing the game for the games own sake. *** Associations: * Debian Maintainer (DM) * Fedora/EPEL Maintainer. * Contributor member of the AlmaLinux foundation. WWW: https://kathenas.org Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/kathenasorg Twitter: @kathenasorg Instagram: @kathenasorg IRC: kathenas GPG: 724AA9B52F024C8B signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: SIG proposal: Multimedia SIG
On Mon, 2023-06-19 at 22:36 +, Maxwell G wrote: > On Mon Jun 19, 2023 at 22:20 +0100, Philip Wyett wrote: > > On Mon, 2023-06-19 at 21:32 +0200, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > > > Hello! > > > > > > With the growing number of multimedia packages in Fedora, mostly owing > > > to the introduction of ffmpeg package and Legal permission to enable > > > and ship many popular codecs, I think we've reached the critical mass of > > > packages and maintainers that warrants the creation of a Multimedia SIG. > > > > > > I propose, similar to the recently established LibreOffice SIG, to > > > create a FAS group, Bugzilla account and a private mailing list. > > > > > > > Private mailing list? No part of this project should have private anything > > IMHO. > > This is how all Fedora packaging SIGs work. They have a private mailing > list that's only used for Bugzilla notifications that may contain > private bugs with sensitive information, and then everything else is > handled over standard, public channels. > > Using the Python SIG as an example: > > - python-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org -> Public discussion list > - python-packagers-...@lists.fedoraproject.org -> List used for the > Bugzilla account and nothing else. Only open to members of the > @python-packagers-sig FAS group. > - #python:fedoraproject.org / #fedora-python -> Synchronous > communication > > -- > Maxwell G (@gotmax23) > Pronouns: He/They > _ Hi, If for notification only of persons in a group that is more suitable and they are never used for reply/ongoing private group discussion. Thanks for the clarification. Regards Phil -- *** Playing the game for the games own sake. *** Associations: * Debian Maintainer (DM) * Fedora/EPEL Maintainer. * Contributor member of the AlmaLinux foundation. WWW: https://kathenas.org Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/kathenasorg Twitter: @kathenasorg Instagram: @kathenasorg IRC: kathenas GPG: 724AA9B52F024C8B signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: SIG proposal: Multimedia SIG
On Mon, 2023-06-19 at 23:39 +0200, Emmanuel Seyman wrote: > * Philip Wyett [19/06/2023 22:20] : > > Private mailing list? No part of this project should have private anything > > IMHO. > > Bug reports can explain security flaws and lead to exploits. They can > also contain confidentiel information. > > I would suggest a private ml dedicated to bugs and a public one for > everything else, IMHO. > > Emmanuel > Hi, Any bug report that contains sensitive data (exploitable or not) and is deemed private, the discussion should be done in that bug report. Private ML is always a bad idea as much discussion tends to end up on it and the wider community is excluded and I do not believe we are here to exclude. Regards Phil -- *** Playing the game for the games own sake. *** Associations: * Debian Maintainer (DM) * Fedora/EPEL Maintainer. * Contributor member of the AlmaLinux foundation. WWW: https://kathenas.org Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/kathenasorg Twitter: @kathenasorg Instagram: @kathenasorg IRC: kathenas GPG: 724AA9B52F024C8B signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: SIG proposal: Multimedia SIG
On Mon, 2023-06-19 at 21:32 +0200, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > Hello! > > With the growing number of multimedia packages in Fedora, mostly owing > to the introduction of ffmpeg package and Legal permission to enable > and ship many popular codecs, I think we've reached the critical mass of > packages and maintainers that warrants the creation of a Multimedia SIG. > > I propose, similar to the recently established LibreOffice SIG, to > create a FAS group, Bugzilla account and a private mailing list. > Private mailing list? No part of this project should have private anything IMHO. Regards Phil -- *** Playing the game for the games own sake. *** Associations: * Debian Maintainer (DM) * Fedora/EPEL Maintainer. * Contributor member of the AlmaLinux foundation. WWW: https://kathenas.org Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/kathenasorg Twitter: @kathenasorg Instagram: @kathenasorg IRC: kathenas GPG: 724AA9B52F024C8B signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: releng-bot owns my package in SCM - belcard
On Sun, 2023-06-18 at 17:35 +0200, Kalev Lember wrote: > On Sun, Jun 18, 2023 at 12:01 PM Philip Wyett > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > After completing a package-review for belcard[1], I tried to create the > > repo, seems that the > > repo > > after a couple of attempts got created, but is owned by 'releng-bot' and > > not myself 'kathenas'. > > How > > can I get this resolved? > > Hi Phil, > > I would file a releng ticket at https://pagure.io/releng/issues > > -- > Kalev Hi Kalev, Thanks for the tip. Been done now. Regards Phil -- *** Playing the game for the games own sake. *** Associations: * Debian Maintainer (DM) * Fedora/EPEL Maintainer. * Contributor member of the AlmaLinux foundation. WWW: https://kathenas.org Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/kathenasorg Twitter: @kathenasorg Instagram: @kathenasorg IRC: kathenas GPG: 724AA9B52F024C8B signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
releng-bot owns my package in SCM - belcard
Hi, After completing a package-review for belcard[1], I tried to create the repo, seems that the repo after a couple of attempts got created, but is owned by 'releng-bot' and not myself 'kathenas'. How can I get this resolved? [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2211811 Regards Phil -- *** Playing the game for the games own sake. *** Associations: * Debian Maintainer (DM) * Fedora/EPEL Maintainer. * Contributor member of the AlmaLinux foundation. WWW: https://kathenas.org Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/kathenasorg Twitter: @kathenasorg Instagram: @kathenasorg IRC: kathenas GPG: 724AA9B52F024C8B signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: employment related packager groups
On Mon, 2023-05-29 at 08:56 +0200, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Mon, May 29, 2023 at 8:50 AM Philip Wyett > wrote: > > On Mon, 2023-05-29 at 07:50 +0200, Neal Gompa wrote: > > > On Sat, May 27, 2023 at 2:52 PM Ali Erdinc Koroglu > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On 27/05/2023 15:18, Florian Weimer wrote: > > > > > * Kevin Fenzi: > > > > > > > > > > > Today we have packager groups used in src.fedoraproject.org to > > > > > > allow a > > > > > > group of people to maintain packages. In the past this has been > > > > > > used for > > > > > > SIGs/packaging areas. ie, python-packaging-sig or robotics-sig or > > > > > > the > > > > > > like. > > > > > > > > > > > > FESCo has been asked about creating company related groups. > > > > > > ( https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2966 and > > > > > > https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2929 ) > > > > > > ie, foocorp-sig / foocopr-packagers. These groups would then be > > > > > > used to > > > > > > help maintain packages that foocorp finds of interest/value. > > > > > > > > > > Will these groups automatically make members part of the packager > > > > > group? > > > > > Or will that be a separate step? > > > > > > > > I think this can be like that: "To join the foocorp-SIG, packager group > > > > membership is a > > > > requirement" > > > > > > > > > > IMO, we should not call these SIGs either. I'm not sure exactly what > > > the naming convention should be, but one thought would be > > > "corp-maint_" (or flip it around if you wish). > > > > > > e.g., "corp-maint_aiven" for Aiven employees. > > > > > > > > > > Maybe 'org' in the naming rather than 'corp' as not all businesses and > > entities are corps. More > > sedate naming and would cover other distros, charities and other groups in > > general? > > > > Sure. I'm fine with that. I think it's just important to not call it a > SIG, because it's not a "special interest group" in the sense that we > use it for. > Agreed. SIG is not appropriate in this instance. > > -- > > *** Playing the game for the games own sake. *** > > > > > > Associations: > > > > * Debian Maintainer (DM) > > * Fedora/EPEL Maintainer. > > * Contributor member of the AlmaLinux foundation. > > > > Right, it's fairly well-known how broad my association in FOSS is too, > so I totally get this point. :) > Indeed. A man after my own heart. ;-) Regards Phil -- *** Playing the game for the games own sake. *** Associations: * Debian Maintainer (DM) * Fedora/EPEL Maintainer. * Contributor member of the AlmaLinux foundation. WWW: https://kathenas.org Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/kathenasorg Twitter: @kathenasorg Instagram: @kathenasorg IRC: kathenas GPG: 724AA9B52F024C8B signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: employment related packager groups
On Mon, 2023-05-29 at 07:50 +0200, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Sat, May 27, 2023 at 2:52 PM Ali Erdinc Koroglu > wrote: > > > > > > On 27/05/2023 15:18, Florian Weimer wrote: > > > * Kevin Fenzi: > > > > > > > Today we have packager groups used in src.fedoraproject.org to allow a > > > > group of people to maintain packages. In the past this has been used for > > > > SIGs/packaging areas. ie, python-packaging-sig or robotics-sig or the > > > > like. > > > > > > > > FESCo has been asked about creating company related groups. > > > > ( https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2966 and > > > > https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2929 ) > > > > ie, foocorp-sig / foocopr-packagers. These groups would then be used to > > > > help maintain packages that foocorp finds of interest/value. > > > > > > Will these groups automatically make members part of the packager group? > > > Or will that be a separate step? > > > > I think this can be like that: "To join the foocorp-SIG, packager group > > membership is a > > requirement" > > > > IMO, we should not call these SIGs either. I'm not sure exactly what > the naming convention should be, but one thought would be > "corp-maint_" (or flip it around if you wish). > > e.g., "corp-maint_aiven" for Aiven employees. > > Maybe 'org' in the naming rather than 'corp' as not all businesses and entities are corps. More sedate naming and would cover other distros, charities and other groups in general? Regards Phil -- *** Playing the game for the games own sake. *** Associations: * Debian Maintainer (DM) * Fedora/EPEL Maintainer. * Contributor member of the AlmaLinux foundation. WWW: https://kathenas.org Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/kathenasorg Twitter: @kathenasorg Instagram: @kathenasorg IRC: kathenas GPG: 724AA9B52F024C8B signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
libosip2 soname bump in rawhide
Hi all, In the effort to update the very outdated linphone stack and related software. In the next day or so the libosip2 package will receive its first major update in Fedora since 2013 that will include a soname bump. Regards Phil -- *** Playing the game for the games own sake. *** Associations: * Debian Maintainer (DM) * Fedora/EPEL Maintainer. * Contributor member of the AlmaLinux foundation. WWW: https://kathenas.org Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/kathenasorg Twitter: @kathenasorg Instagram: @kathenasorg IRC: kathenas GPG: 724AA9B52F024C8B signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Intention to take ownership of and revive from retirement - ortp
Hi all, Once upon a time... One day a fedora packager found libosip2 orphaned and decided it needed some love and adopted it. Little did he know the rabbit hole he was about to go down. ;-) All things lead to linphone and as a result I have adopted: - libosip2 - libeXosip2 - linphone An integral dependency is the retired ortp. I would like to take ownership of the package, following the process[1]. The overall process as I see it maybe quite a brutal one, with: - Major version updates - soname bumps - etc. Hopefully when work is complete, we will have a working linphone stack. Please be patient as efforts progress. [1] https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/package-maintainers/Package_Retirement_Process/#claiming Regards Phil -- *** Playing the game for the games own sake. *** Associations: * Debian Maintainer (DM) * Fedora/EPEL Maintainer. * Contributor member of the AlmaLinux foundation. WWW: https://kathenas.org Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/kathenasorg Twitter: @kathenasorg Instagram: @kathenasorg IRC: kathenas GPG: 724AA9B52F024C8B signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Tenacity
On Tue, 2023-02-07 at 21:03 +, Reon Beon via devel wrote: > https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/python-tenacity ? > ___ > devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue Hi, I believe the original reporter here is speaking of the more privacy centric audacity? Regards Phil -- *** Playing the game for the games own sake. *** Associations: * Debian Maintainer (DM) * Fedora/EPEL Maintainer. * Contributor member of the AlmaLinux foundation. WWW: https://kathenas.org Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/kathenasorg Twitter: @kathenasorg Instagram: @kathenasorg IRC: kathenas GPG: 724AA9B52F024C8B signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers
On Mon, 2023-01-02 at 17:02 +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they > are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure > that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life > > Note: If you received this mail directly you (co)maintain one of the affected > packages or a package that depends on one. Please adopt the affected package > or > retire your depending package to avoid broken dependencies, otherwise your > package will fail to install and/or build when the affected package gets > retired. > > Request package ownership via the *Take* button in he left column on > https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/; > > Full report available at: > https://churchyard.fedorapeople.org/orphans-2023-01-02.txt > grep it for your FAS username and follow the dependency chain. > > For human readable dependency chains, > see https://packager-dashboard.fedoraproject.org/ > For all orphaned packages, > see https://packager-dashboard.fedoraproject.org/orphan > > Package (co)maintainers Status > Change > > 5minute orphan 4 weeks ago > CFR jvanek, orphan 4 weeks ago > CheMPS2 orphan 4 weeks ago > PolicyKit-olpcorphan 5 weeks ago > aboot orphan 4 weeks ago > albatross orphan 5 weeks ago > alleyoop orphan 5 weeks ago > alure orphan 4 weeks ago > amor jgrulich, kde-sig, orphan, 5 weeks ago >rdieter, than > anki chkr, orphan 4 weeks ago > ansible-collection-google-cloud infra-sig, orphan3 weeks ago > asn1c orphan 4 weeks ago > backup-managerorphan 5 weeks ago > bharati-m17n orphan 4 weeks ago > bibtex2html orphan, thofmann 4 weeks ago > bluecurve-classic-metacity- gnome-sig, orphan, rstrode 4 weeks ago > theme > bluecurve-gnome-theme gnome-sig, orphan, rstrode 4 weeks ago > bluecurve-gtk-themes gnome-sig, orphan, rstrode 4 weeks ago > bluecurve-icon-theme gnome-sig, orphan, rstrode 4 weeks ago > bluecurve-kde-theme gnome-sig, kkofler, orphan, 4 weeks ago >rdieter, rstrode, than > bluecurve-metacity-theme gnome-sig, orphan, rstrode 4 weeks ago > bluecurve-xmms-skin gnome-sig, orphan, rstrode 4 weeks ago > cairo-clock orphan 4 weeks ago > code-editor orphan 5 weeks ago > compton orphan 5 weeks ago > cups-bjnp orphan 5 weeks ago > devilspie2orphan 2 weeks ago > dmz-cursor-themes company, orphan 5 weeks ago > ejabberd bowlofeggs, jcline, orphan, 4 weeks ago >xavierb > erlang-epgsql lkundrak, orphan 5 weeks ago > fwsnort orphan 5 weeks ago > gdeploy godas, orphan4 weeks ago > ghasher orphan 4 weeks ago > gl-117orphan, steve4 weeks ago > glusterfs-selinux kkeithle, orphan, shwetha4 weeks ago > gnome-activity-journalorphan 5 weeks ago > gnome-nds-thumbnailer orphan 5 weeks ago > gnome-search-tool gnome-sig, orphan4 weeks ago > gnome-shell-theme-selene orphan 5 weeks ago > gnonlin orphan 4 weeks ago > golang-github-gocomply-scap go-sig, orphan 5 weeks ago > golang-github-justinas-alice go-sig, orphan 4 weeks ago > golang-github-lpabon-godbcgo-sig, orphan 5 weeks ago > golang-github-pkg-browser go-sig,
Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers
On Mon, 2022-07-18 at 11:07 +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > gfbgraph As gfbgraph is a dep of gnome-maps, I have taken this one. Regards Phil -- *** Playing the game for the games own sake. *** Associations: * Debian Maintainer (DM) * Fedora/EPEL Maintainer. * Contributor member of the AlmaLinux foundation. WWW: https://kathenas.org Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/kathenasorg Twitter: @kathenasorg Instagram: @kathenasorg IRC: kathenas GPG: 724AA9B52F024C8B signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Non-responsive rednotebook maintainer
Hi all, Bug link: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2058475 I have posted the bug report above and emailed the maintainer directly offering to co-maintain the package concerned - rednotebook. No responses at all, though the maintainer is active. If Fabian Affolter (m...@fabian-affolter.ch) is active, please contact me to discuss rednotebook, its issues and maintenance. Regards Phil -- *** Playing the game for the games own sake. *** WWW: https://kathenas.org Twitter: @kathenasorg IRC: kathenas GPG: 724AA9B52F024C8B signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Icon issues in a number of applications - f36 and rawhide
On Mon, 2022-03-14 at 08:10 +0100, Milan Crha wrote:
> On Sun, 2022-03-13 at 11:30 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> > Recommendation: Third-party applications should limit themselves to
> > depending on standard icon names listed at
> > https://specifications.freedesktop.org/icon-naming-spec/icon-naming-spec-latest.html
> >
> > only.
>
> Hi,
> for what it's worth, the "dialog-question" is part of the
> specification, still the console snippet Philip pasted in his mail
> shows an abort on it:
>
> > self._question_icon = icon_theme.load_icon("dialog-question", 48, 0)
> > gi.repository.GLib.GError: gtk-icon-theme-error-quark: Icon 'dialog-
> > question' not present in theme Adwaita (0)
>
> Bye,
> Milan
Hi,
Many thanks guys for the info.
Now filed bug for maintainer:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2063738
Regards
Phil
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Icon issues in a number of applications - f36 and rawhide
Hi,
Before the bug reports start, I thought I would ask opinion here as not my real
area of knowledge.
It seems that many applications running on GNOME under f36 and rawhide are
having icon issues.
Example 1: Under GNOME, rednotebook has no menu bar icons.
Example 2: Pitivi will fail to start[1] due to a missing icon.
Both issues are resolved by installing the gnome-icon-theme package.
People are aware of the issue that has recently arisen?
[1]:
[philwyett@ks-chewbacca ~]$ pitivi
Missing soft dependency:
- libav GStreamer plug-in not found on the system
-> additional multimedia codecs through the GStreamer Libav library
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/lib64/python3.10/site-packages/pitivi/application.py", line 203,
in do_activate
self.create_main_window()
File "/usr/lib64/python3.10/site-packages/pitivi/application.py", line 210,
in create_main_window
self.gui.setup_ui()
File "/usr/lib64/python3.10/site-packages/pitivi/mainwindow.py", line 134, in
setup_ui
self.editor.setup_ui()
File "/usr/lib64/python3.10/site-packages/pitivi/editorperspective.py", line
103, in setup_ui
self._create_ui()
File "/usr/lib64/python3.10/site-packages/pitivi/editorperspective.py", line
215, in _create_ui
self.trans_list = TransitionsListWidget(self.app)
File "/usr/lib64/python3.10/site-packages/pitivi/transitions.py", line 57, in
__init__
self._question_icon = icon_theme.load_icon("dialog-question", 48, 0)
gi.repository.GLib.GError: gtk-icon-theme-error-quark: Icon 'dialog-question'
not present in theme
Adwaita (0)
[philwyett@ks-chewbacca ~]$ sudo dnf list installed | grep icon-theme
[sudo] password for philwyett:
adwaita-icon-theme.noarch42~beta-
1.fc36 @anaconda
hicolor-icon-theme.noarch0.17-
12.fc36@anaconda
highcontrast-icon-theme.noarch 3.28-
14.fc36@anaconda
[philwyett@ks-chewbacca ~]$ sudo dnf install gnome-icon-theme
Fedora 36 - x86_64 5.0 MB/s | 80 MB 00:15
Fedora 36 openh264 (From Cisco) - x86_641.7 kB/s | 2.5 kB 00:01
Fedora Modular 36 - x86_64 2.4 MB/s | 2.3 MB 00:00
Fedora 36 - x86_64 - Updates338 B/s | 257 B 00:00
Fedora Modular 36 - x86_64 - Updates245 B/s | 257 B 00:01
Fedora 36 - x86_64 - Test Updates 2.8 MB/s | 8.1 MB 00:02
Fedora Modular 36 - x86_64 - Test Updates 200 kB/s | 319 kB 00:01
Dependencies resolved.
PackageArchitecture Version RepositorySize
Installing:
gnome-icon-theme noarch 3.12.0-17.fc36 fedora 9.6 M
Transaction Summary
Install 1 Package
Total download size: 9.6 M
Installed size: 9.9 M
Is this ok [y/N]: y
Downloading Packages:
gnome-icon-theme-3.12.0-17.fc36.noarch.rpm 2.8 MB/s | 9.6 MB 00:03
Total 2.5 MB/s | 9.6 MB 00:03
Running transaction check
Transaction check succeeded.
Running transaction test
Transaction test succeeded.
Running transaction
Preparing:1/1
Installing : gnome-icon-theme-3.12.0-17.fc36.noarch 1/1
Running scriptlet: gnome-icon-theme-3.12.0-17.fc36.noarch 1/1
Verifying: gnome-icon-theme-3.12.0-17.fc36.noarch 1/1
Installed:
gnome-icon-theme-3.12.0-17.fc36.noarch
Complete!
[philwyett@ks-chewbacca ~]$ pitivi
Missing soft dependency:
- libav GStreamer plug-in not found on the system
-> additional multimedia codecs through the GStreamer Libav library
[philwyett@ks-chewbacca ~]$
Regards
Phil
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Re: Carla: FTBFS in Fedora rawhide/f36 - error: aggregate 'std::array sizes' has incomplete type and cannot be defined
On Sat, 2022-01-29 at 16:55 +, Martin Gansser wrote: > and what is the problem now ? > ___ > Hi, You started this thread with supposed build failures. the -2 version of the mass f36 rebuild is a failure. Leave that as we have all have had issues with gcc 12 etc. etc. It is nothing you need to worry about. You have built a newer version -3, so the FTBFS bug on bugzilla (if you have one) you can be closed as rawhide. Regards Phil -- *** Playing the game for the games own sake. *** WWW: https://kathenas.org Twitter: @kathenasorg IRC: kathenas GPG: 724AA9B52F024C8B signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Carla: FTBFS in Fedora rawhide/f36 - error: aggregate 'std::array sizes' has incomplete type and cannot be defined
On Sat, 2022-01-29 at 16:46 +, Martin Gansser wrote: > what is the latest version ? > ___ > Hi, Going by the list on that page. You did a successful rawhide build of: Carla-2.4.1-3.fc36 today. https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=1909993 Regards Phil -- *** Playing the game for the games own sake. *** WWW: https://kathenas.org Twitter: @kathenasorg IRC: kathenas GPG: 724AA9B52F024C8B signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Carla: FTBFS in Fedora rawhide/f36 - error: aggregate 'std::array sizes' has incomplete type and cannot be defined
On Sat, 2022-01-29 at 14:02 +, Martin Gansser wrote:
> Hi,
>
> when building Carla on rawhide the compilation fails with the following error
> message [1]:
>
> Compiling juce_gui_basics.cpp
> In file included from juce_gui_basics.cpp:265:
> native/x11/juce_linux_XWindowSystem.cpp: In member function
> 'juce::BorderSize
> juce::XWindowSystem::getBorderSize(Window) const':
> native/x11/juce_linux_XWindowSystem.cpp:1599:42: error: aggregate
> 'std::array 4> sizes' has incomplete type and cannot be defined
> 1599 | std::array sizes;
> | ^
> native/x11/juce_linux_XWindowSystem.cpp:1607:85: error: could not convert
> '{,
> , , }' from
> ' list>' to 'juce::BorderSize'
> 1607 | return { (int) sizes[2], (int) sizes[0], (int) sizes[3],
> (int) sizes[1] };
> |
> ^
> |
> |
> |
>e-enclosed initializer list>
> native/x11/juce_linux_XWindowSystem.cpp: In function 'juce::Rectangle
> juce::getWorkArea(const XWindowSystemUtilities::GetXProperty&)':
> native/x11/juce_linux_XWindowSystem.cpp:2181:29: error: aggregate
> 'std::array
> position' has incomplete type and cannot be defined
> 2181 | std::array position;
> | ^~~~
> native/x11/juce_linux_XWindowSystem.cpp:2190:55: error: could not convert
> '{,
> , , }' from
> ' list>' to 'juce::Rectangle'
> 2190 | (int) position[2], (int) position[3] };
> | ^
> | |
> |initializer list>
>
>
> [1] https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org//work/tasks/4698/82104698/build.log
>
> how can solve this ?
>
>
Hi,
Looking at the build log, you are not building the latest - from log:
Wrote: /builddir/build/SRPMS/Carla-2.4.1-2.fc36.src.rpm
See: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=27931 and try
the latest.
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Re: Remmina orphaned and I would like to take it.
On Tue, 2022-01-18 at 19:41 -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 7:39 PM Philip Wyett > wrote: > > On Wed, 2022-01-19 at 00:26 +, bugzi...@redhat.com wrote: > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2031376 > > > > > > Fedora Admin user for bugzilla script actions > > > > > > changed: > > > > > >What|Removed |Added > > > > > >Assignee|pa...@hubbitus.info > > > |extras-orphan@fedoraproject > > >||.org > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Comment #6 from Fedora Admin user for bugzilla script actions < > > > fedora-admin-xml...@fedoraproject.org> --- > > > This package has changed maintainer in Fedora. Reassigning to the new > > > maintainer of this component. > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > It seems remmina has been orphaned (see above). I already package remmina > > personally for RHEL > > and > > would be happy to package and maintain it for fedora, EPEL etc. > > > > I am already in the packagers group and would only need to be given access. > > > > It looks like you are listed as the maintainer now[1]? So is there > anything to do here? > > [1]: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/remmina > > > > > -- > 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth! Hi Neal, Yeah, I saw that too once I hit the 'Take' button. We are all good, nothing should need doing and I shall now begin getting it up to date. Regards Phil -- *** Playing the game for the games own sake. *** WWW: https://kathenas.org Twitter: @kathenasorg IRC: kathenas GPG: 724AA9B52F024C8B signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Remmina orphaned and I would like to take it.
On Wed, 2022-01-19 at 00:38 +, Philip Wyett wrote: > On Wed, 2022-01-19 at 00:26 +, bugzi...@redhat.com wrote: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2031376 > > > > Fedora Admin user for bugzilla script actions > > changed: > > > >What|Removed |Added > > > >Assignee|pa...@hubbitus.info |extras-orphan@fedoraproject > >||.org > > > > > > > > --- Comment #6 from Fedora Admin user for bugzilla script actions < > > fedora-admin-xml...@fedoraproject.org> --- > > This package has changed maintainer in Fedora. Reassigning to the new > > maintainer of this component. > > > > > > Hi all, > > It seems remmina has been orphaned (see above). I already package remmina > personally for RHEL and > would be happy to package and maintain it for fedora, EPEL etc. > > I am already in the packagers group and would only need to be given access. > > Regards > > Phil > > Ok, I clicked on 'Take' and was made the maintainer on https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/remmina, so let me start work on it then. :-) Regards Phil -- *** Playing the game for the games own sake. *** WWW: https://kathenas.org Twitter: @kathenasorg IRC: kathenas GPG: 724AA9B52F024C8B signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Remmina orphaned and I would like to take it.
On Wed, 2022-01-19 at 00:26 +, bugzi...@redhat.com wrote: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2031376 > > Fedora Admin user for bugzilla script actions > changed: > >What|Removed |Added > >Assignee|pa...@hubbitus.info |extras-orphan@fedoraproject >||.org > > > > --- Comment #6 from Fedora Admin user for bugzilla script actions < > fedora-admin-xml...@fedoraproject.org> --- > This package has changed maintainer in Fedora. Reassigning to the new > maintainer of this component. > > Hi all, It seems remmina has been orphaned (see above). I already package remmina personally for RHEL and would be happy to package and maintain it for fedora, EPEL etc. I am already in the packagers group and would only need to be given access. Regards Phil -- *** Playing the game for the games own sake. *** WWW: https://kathenas.org Twitter: @kathenasorg IRC: kathenas GPG: 724AA9B52F024C8B signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Mock v2.16 release, mock-core-configs v36.4
On Sat, 2021-12-18 at 11:34 -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Sat, Dec 18, 2021 at 11:00 AM Philip Wyett > wrote: > > On Sat, 2021-12-18 at 07:40 -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: > > > On Sat, Dec 18, 2021 at 4:16 AM Nico Kadel-Garcia > > > wrote: > > > > On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 1:55 PM Pavel Raiskup > > > > wrote: > > > > > Hello! > > > > > > > > > > I'm glad I can announce that we have a new release of Mock. See the > > > > > full > > > > > release notes [1]. The major change that happened is the removal of > > > > > 'epel-8' config files, as a follow-up for [2] discussion (and of > > > > > course on > > > > > *devel lists, big thanks to everyone for the discussion). > > > > > > > > Why would v3 not be available for EPEL ? > > > > > > Mock v3 will be available for EPEL 8+ and Fedora. We are deliberately > > > removing RHEL 7 host support from Mock in Mock v3, so it won't be > > > available in EPEL 7. Mock v2 will remain in EPEL 7. > > > > > > Personally, I think people are nuts to use RHEL as a build host, > > > because it makes things quite difficult to work forwards, but if > > > you're going to use RHEL as a build host, you should always use the > > > latest RHEL instead of the oldest, even if that version of RHEL isn't > > > in production in the rest of your infrastructure yet. > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > The reasoning is sound of what is being done currently, but to say people > > choosing to use RHEL > > as > > the base build platform as "nuts" is inappropriate, offensive and wrong. As > > a person who is > > dealing > > with mental health issues and quite bright, I take great offence at your > > assertion my friend. > > Please could you apologise for word usage please? > > > > I'm sorry for the word choice, I don't mean to be offensive in that regard. > > Hi Neal, Thank you for that. We all can make bad word choices on occasion and I admire you for being a person big enough to apologise. As my mother said "good, not perfect" and we all make mistakes. You have a great weekend and holidays. Regards Phil -- *** Playing the game for the games own sake. *** WWW: https://kathenas.org Twitter: @kathenasorg IRC: kathenas GPG: 724AA9B52F024C8B signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Mock v2.16 release, mock-core-configs v36.4
On Sat, 2021-12-18 at 07:40 -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Sat, Dec 18, 2021 at 4:16 AM Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 1:55 PM Pavel Raiskup wrote: > > > Hello! > > > > > > I'm glad I can announce that we have a new release of Mock. See the full > > > release notes [1]. The major change that happened is the removal of > > > 'epel-8' config files, as a follow-up for [2] discussion (and of course on > > > *devel lists, big thanks to everyone for the discussion). > > > > Why would v3 not be available for EPEL ? > > Mock v3 will be available for EPEL 8+ and Fedora. We are deliberately > removing RHEL 7 host support from Mock in Mock v3, so it won't be > available in EPEL 7. Mock v2 will remain in EPEL 7. > > Personally, I think people are nuts to use RHEL as a build host, > because it makes things quite difficult to work forwards, but if > you're going to use RHEL as a build host, you should always use the > latest RHEL instead of the oldest, even if that version of RHEL isn't > in production in the rest of your infrastructure yet. > > Hi, The reasoning is sound of what is being done currently, but to say people choosing to use RHEL as the base build platform as "nuts" is inappropriate, offensive and wrong. As a person who is dealing with mental health issues and quite bright, I take great offence at your assertion my friend. Please could you apologise for word usage please? Regards Phil -- *** Playing the game for the games own sake. *** WWW: https://kathenas.org Twitter: @kathenasorg IRC: kathenas GPG: 724AA9B52F024C8B signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: [EPEL-devel] Mock/Copr default epel-8-* configuration to be changed
On Mon, 2021-11-22 at 15:10 +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 22. 11. 21 15:00, Pavel Raiskup wrote: > > - builds will require a valid Red Hat subscription (the no-cost variant is > >OK as well, though [2]) > > I cannot help myself but I consider this very unpleasant for EPEL packagers. > > Getting and configuring the subscription was always so unfriendly for me that > I've been using EPEL mocks even for my RHEL work. This basically means using > EPEL mocks will once again be as complicated as using RHEL. > > However, enough of my personal views. Since we have not used RHEL for > copr/mock > EPEL buidlroots until now, but we used a downstream freely-available > RHEL-copy > (CentOS Linux), could we not continue doing so by using e.g. AlmaLinux? > > -- > Miro Hrončok > -- > Phone: +420777974800 > IRC: mhroncok > ___ > Hi, I am in agreement here. EPEL has always used a community distro and I would much prefer it be so and AlmaLinux is the perfect choice for replacing CentOS here. I currently use AlmaLinux for my EPEL builds and believe it would raise fewer issues than a move to using RHEL. Regards Phil -- *** Playing the game for the games own sake. *** WWW: https://kathenas.org Twitter: @kathenasorg IRC: kathenas GPG: 724AA9B52F024C8B signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
