Re: No More i686 Kernels, No i686 Repositories
That wouldn't work, as the systems do not support 64 bit. On September 19, 2019 8:59:55 PM UTC, Matthew Miller wrote: >On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 03:19:38PM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: >> On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 13:15:08 -0700, >> You can crossgrade using dnf. I wrote about it a few weeks ago. The >> process worked pretty smoothly for me. > >Maybe worth a Fedora Magazine article (with a "not supported" >disclaimer)? > >-- >Matthew Miller > >Fedora Project Leader >___ >devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org >To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org >Fedora Code of Conduct: >https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ >List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines >List Archives: >https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org -- Sent from my mobile device. Please excuse my brevity.___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: No More i686 Kernels, No i686 Repositories
On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 03:19:38PM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 13:15:08 -0700, > You can crossgrade using dnf. I wrote about it a few weeks ago. The > process worked pretty smoothly for me. Maybe worth a Fedora Magazine article (with a "not supported" disclaimer)? -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: No More i686 Kernels, No i686 Repositories
Thank you all for the clarifications. Ciao, A. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: No More i686 Kernels, No i686 Repositories
On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 13:15:08 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 9/16/19 1:08 PM, Alessio wrote: - Can a user running a 32 bit F30 upgrade to F31? No. From the change page: "686 users will not be able to upgrade, and will have to move to another supported arch. " You can crossgrade using dnf. I wrote about it a few weeks ago. The process worked pretty smoothly for me. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: No More i686 Kernels, No i686 Repositories
On 9/16/19 1:08 PM, Alessio wrote: > I read the change set for F31 [1] and I read the threads in this list, > but now I'm a bit lost and a bit confused. So I don't want to reply to > the already existent thread, because I would like some clarifications. > I don't want to open a new endless thread. :-) Completely understandable. > Could someone explain in simple words what that means for a Fedora > user? Talking about i686 architecture, what a user should expect in > F31? > > - No more i686 bootable images (this is pretty clear) Correct. > - Can a user running a 32 bit F30 upgrade to F31? In theory its possible, but really the answer is no, please don't. > - Can a user install i686 version of a package? If the user is running a x86_64 install, they can install any i686 package thats multilib (ie, there for the purposes of running 32bit software on a 64bit install). if the user is running a i386 fedora 29 or 30, then yes, they can install i686 packages. So, really the answer here is that if you have a 32bit install, you should really look at: 1) can your hardware just run 64bit, but you haven't moved it to that yet for some reason? then look at doing so before f30 goes end of life. 2) If you're hardware cannot run 64bit, it might be time to upgrade. Failing that you could look at moving it to another distro that still supports i386. Hope that helps, happy to clarify anything further. kevin signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: No More i686 Kernels, No i686 Repositories
On 16. 09. 19 22:08, Alessio wrote: - No more i686 bootable images (this is pretty clear) Correct. - Can a user running a 32 bit F30 upgrade to F31? No (unless doing some trickery). - Can a user install i686 version of a package? Users of x86_64 systems can still install i686 "multilib" packages in the same way it used to work before. -- Miro Hrončok -- Phone: +420777974800 IRC: mhroncok ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: No More i686 Kernels, No i686 Repositories
On 9/16/19 1:08 PM, Alessio wrote: I read the change set for F31 [1] and I read the threads in this list, but now I'm a bit lost and a bit confused. So I don't want to reply to the already existent thread, because I would like some clarifications. I don't want to open a new endless thread. :-) Could someone explain in simple words what that means for a Fedora user? Talking about i686 architecture, what a user should expect in F31? - No more i686 bootable images (this is pretty clear) Right. - Can a user running a 32 bit F30 upgrade to F31? No. From the change page: "686 users will not be able to upgrade, and will have to move to another supported arch. " - Can a user install i686 version of a package? If they are running in 64-bit, then there will still be 32-bit multi-lib libraries available, but not 32-bit applications. In case you didn't find the detailed change info: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Noi686Repositories ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
No More i686 Kernels, No i686 Repositories
I read the change set for F31 [1] and I read the threads in this list, but now I'm a bit lost and a bit confused. So I don't want to reply to the already existent thread, because I would like some clarifications. I don't want to open a new endless thread. :-) Could someone explain in simple words what that means for a Fedora user? Talking about i686 architecture, what a user should expect in F31? - No more i686 bootable images (this is pretty clear) - Can a user running a 32 bit F30 upgrade to F31? - Can a user install i686 version of a package? - ... [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/31/ChangeSet Thanks, A. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
