Re: Fedora 18 : broken configuration for httpd 2.4

2012-11-02 Thread Remi Collet
Le 01/11/2012 18:25, Jason L Tibbitts III a écrit :
 It would have been super nice to actually include a link in all of those
 bugs, or some reference.  I mean, they must have been filed by program,
 so it's not as if you would have had to do a bunch of extra typing.
 
 We really need a mass bug filing howto or something.  Preferably
 starting with Don't.

Have you notice than all this bugs depend on #871373 which provides some
useful information ?

Remi.
 
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Re: Fedora 18 : broken configuration for httpd 2.4

2012-11-02 Thread Remi Collet
Le 01/11/2012 18:25, Jason L Tibbitts III a écrit :
 It would have been super nice to actually include a link in all of those
 bugs, or some reference.  I mean, they must have been filed by program,
 so it's not as if you would have had to do a bunch of extra typing.

No, nothing automatic here.

I have analyzed all the /etc/httpd/config.d/*conf from the spec file,
the RPM sources or the upstream sources.

When I detect possible breakage I have open a bug manually.

Remember, this issue was raised in March/April... [1]

Yes probably, I could have do it in a better way...
(and probably earlier)


 We really need a mass bug filing howto or something.  Preferably
 starting with Don't.

You're right, I should have avoid this mass bug filing.

But sorry, I just try to make Fedora better, and I think that ~60 broken
web apps is not good for our image.

Ok, next time, I will think twice before doing this, and prefer use my
time on my packages, and only mine.


Remi.


[1] http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2012-March/165058.html
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Re: Fedora 18 : broken configuration for httpd 2.4

2012-11-02 Thread Kushal Das
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 8:14 PM, Remi Collet fed...@famillecollet.com wrote:
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 Le 30/10/2012 15:14, Remi Collet a écrit :
 So I open a tracker bug for this issues
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=871373

 Finally : 60 open bugs.

Thanks for the bugs.

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Re: Fedora 18 : broken configuration for httpd 2.4

2012-11-02 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson

On 11/01/2012 05:25 PM, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote:

It would have been super nice to actually include a link in all of those
bugs, or some reference.  I mean, they must have been filed by program,
so it's not as if you would have had to do a bunch of extra typing.


Most of us do this actually manually.


We really need a mass bug filing howto or something.  Preferably
starting with Don't.


The proper way to do this is exactly what Remi did as in create a 
tracker bug then have all the relevant bugs  block that tracker bug and 
you just monitor that tracker bug.


The above is the standard practice within the community...

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Re: Fedora 18 : broken configuration for httpd 2.4

2012-11-02 Thread Marcela Mašláňová

On 11/01/2012 06:25 PM, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote:

It would have been super nice to actually include a link in all of those
bugs, or some reference.  I mean, they must have been filed by program,
so it's not as if you would have had to do a bunch of extra typing.

We really need a mass bug filing howto or something.  Preferably
starting with Don't.

  - J

Bugs could contain little more info, but I hope our maintainer are aware 
of existence of dependent/blocking bugs.


Remi did wonderful job. We can track changes better than with mailing 
list and replies fixed.


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Re: Fedora 18 : broken configuration for httpd 2.4

2012-11-02 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
 RC == Remi Collet fed...@famillecollet.com writes:

RC Have you notice than all this bugs depend on #871373 which provides
RC some useful information ?

The useful information was not in the ticket.  Which means it wasn't in
the email.  Which means I had to get over to a web browser, wait for
bugzilla to load, and click around (and wait some more) to figure out
what on earth was going on.

People seem to think this is a great thing, and yes, I applaud Remi for
trying to help, but mass-filing tickets is the last resort, to be used
after doing a proper announcement and having discussion.

nirik are working on a proposal for some policy here.

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Re: Fedora 18 : broken configuration for httpd 2.4

2012-11-01 Thread Remi Collet
Le 31/10/2012 22:25, Gianluca Sforna a écrit :
 So, befoer I dig into manuals, can you name the most common causes for 
 breakage?

Some explanation on the tracker bug
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=871373


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Re: Fedora 18 : broken configuration for httpd 2.4

2012-11-01 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
It would have been super nice to actually include a link in all of those
bugs, or some reference.  I mean, they must have been filed by program,
so it's not as if you would have had to do a bunch of extra typing.

We really need a mass bug filing howto or something.  Preferably
starting with Don't.

 - J
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Re: Fedora 18 : broken configuration for httpd 2.4

2012-10-31 Thread Gianluca Sforna
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Remi Collet fed...@famillecollet.com wrote:


 I you need more explanation on the required changes, feel free to ask.


So, befoer I dig into manuals, can you name the most common causes for breakage?



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Re: Fedora 18 : broken configuration for httpd 2.4

2012-10-30 Thread Remi Collet
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Le 30/10/2012 15:14, Remi Collet a écrit :
 So I open a tracker bug for this issues 
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=871373

Finally : 60 open bugs.


Note : if your package provides an Apache configuration file
and is not listed here, I could have miss it, so please review it.


Some package only provides a minimal configuration with

Alias /foo /usr/share/foo

I haven't open a bug, even if I think this configuration is broken,
but this is not related to httpd 2.4 (by default / access is denied)


Remi.
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Re: Fedora 18 : broken configuration for httpd 2.4

2012-10-30 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson

On 10/30/2012 02:44 PM, Remi Collet wrote:

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Le 30/10/2012 15:14, Remi Collet a écrit :

So I open a tracker bug for this issues
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=871373

Finally : 60 open bugs.


Note : if your package provides an Apache configuration file
and is not listed here, I could have miss it, so please review it.


Some package only provides a minimal configuration with

Alias /foo /usr/share/foo

I haven't open a bug, even if I think this configuration is broken,
but this is not related to httpd 2.4 (by default / access is denied)


Excellent work thanks

JGB
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