RE: OLPC France 12.1.0 testing results

2013-03-16 Thread lionel
 

Hi Gonzalo,

 

Thanks for your answer.

 

 

 For hulahop, the best is replace the use of gecko by webkit.

 You can see how simple is the code, by example in the Help activity.

 

Ok, we’re going to have a look on this.

 

 About Colors, I have tried but didn't find the solution to the pending
issue

(git version starts,  but the palette to select colors do not reply)

 If you find the solution, please communicate.

 

Hmmm. I don’t understand the issue: the activity just crash with a TypeError
message in the log.

To be honest, I’m not sure that we’ll invest lot of time on it because I
don’t know if this activity is used a lot locally.

BTW, yes if we find a way to fix it. We’ll communicate on it.

 

Lionel.

 

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Re: OLPC France 12.1.0 testing results

2013-03-16 Thread Daniel Drake
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 4:03 PM,  lio...@olpc-france.org wrote:
 We're currently preparing the 2013 mission to our Nosy Komba deployment: 150
 XO-1 + 50 XO-1.5.

 So, a team of volunteer have tested on 12.1.0/Sugar 0.96 our 63 activities
 currently deployed there on OLPC 883/Sugar 0.94.1.

 I know it's a hot topic here :-) so following is the result of our test.

Thanks a lot for the report. This kind of thing is always very
interesting and useful.

 · Fix the last issue regarding hulahop incompatibility on 3
 activities (Map, Madagascar, HelpFR),

I'm sure you will find help here if this proves challenging.

 · Do intensive testing on XO-1 to check the performance issue
 mentioned here recently (most of our testing has been done on SoaS or
 XO-1.5),

According to testing within OLPC, 12.1.0 should not introduce
significant performance issues here.
13.1.0 is where the significant slowdowns are introduced. We will try
to work on this.

 · Try to optimize the size of our bundle to adapt to the new size of
 free space on 12.1.0,

I'm sorry that the image has grown a bit. It is a battle that we
haven't had enough resources to fight well enough.

 · Find a new way to create our bundle. Until this year we've got a
 customization key but unfortunately it's not supported now: we can't
 deployed 63 activities, one by one on 200 XO!

You probably already know, what we recommend here is
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OS_Builder
Feel free to ask any questions on devel@lists.laptop.org

If your laptops are secured, get in contact with OLPC (with a list of
serial numbers) to help unlock them.

I imagine for a project like yours, you will appreciate the simplicity
added overall (i.e. removing the step where you have to use the
customization stick), even though you will face a small learning curve
first.

Thanks
Daniel
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Re: OLPC France 12.1.0 testing results

2013-03-16 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
  About Colors, I have tried but didn't find the solution to the pending
 issue

 (git version starts,  but the palette to select colors do not reply)

  If you find the solution, please communicate.

 ** **

 Hmmm. I don’t understand the issue: the activity just crash with a
 TypeError message in the log.

 To be honest, I’m not sure that we’ll invest lot of time on it because I
 don’t know if this activity is used a lot locally.

 BTW, yes if we find a way to fix it. We’ll communicate on it.

 ** **

 Lionel.

 ** **


To be honest, I haven't tried it in recent builds.
Just be sure to try with the last changes in git, because I am sure there
are
no released changes.

Gonzalo
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RE: OLPC France 12.1.0 testing results

2013-03-16 Thread lionel

Hi Daniel,

Thanks for your answer.


 According to testing within OLPC, 12.1.0 should not introduce significant
performance issues here.
 13.1.0 is where the significant slowdowns are introduced. We will try to
work on this.

I've done some quick tests today on a XO-1 with 12.1.0 and you're right, I
don't see any significant performance difference.

BTW I've found a very strange issue on 12.1.0:
I've downloaded the Tuxmath activity and installed the .xo file from the
Sugar App Store (http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en/sugar/addon/4271).
As you probably know, Tuxmath don't works on Sugar 0.96+ because the
activity.info has the wrong format (bundle_id and exec property). 
When I update the activity.info from the Tuxmath.activity/activity directory
of the installed activity, Tuxmath works.
But if I update the activity.info into the bundle BEFORE installing the .xo
file, Tuxmath failed to start:

Traceback (most recent call last):
 File /usr/bin/sugar-activity, line 154, in module
   main()
 File /usr/bin/sugar-activity, line 110, in main
   class_name = splitted_module[1]
IndexError: list index out of range
Exited with status 1, pid 771 data (None, open file 'fdopen',
mode 'w' at 0x9e037b0, '5ee72dfc5e569afc13a4ca91e0b5e2628747b919')

I've retried the packaging of the activity several times on several machines
without understanding how the comportment could differ. 
Is there any reason for that?


 I'm sorry that the image has grown a bit. It is a battle that we haven't
had enough resources to fight well enough.

The growing of the image come with very nice features (Gtk3, WebKit, ...) so
we can live with that!


 You probably already know, what we recommend here is
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OS_Builder

Yes it's my next task to try OS Builder. In the meantime, Tony send me its
magic script to delete/install activity bundle. So, I've got a B plan if my
learning curve is too long :-)

Best regards from France.

Lionel.


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OLPC France 12.1.0 testing results

2013-03-15 Thread lionel
Hi all,

 

We're currently preparing the 2013 mission to our Nosy Komba deployment: 150
XO-1 + 50 XO-1.5.

So, a team of volunteer have tested on 12.1.0/Sugar 0.96 our 63 activities
currently deployed there on OLPC 883/Sugar 0.94.1. 

I know it's a hot topic here :-) so following is the result of our test.

 

The detailed report is here [1] (in french) and the spreadsheet report is
here [2].

Results are not so bad: 71% of activities works without any adaptation, 20%
with a minor one (activity.info upgrade, find here [3] a patch with all
activity.info we've upgraded). Only 4 activities don't work at all.

 

The next step for us:

* Fix the last issue regarding hulahop incompatibility on 3
activities (Map, Madagascar, HelpFR),

* Fix the TypeError issue on Colors activity,

* Do intensive testing on XO-1 to check the performance issue
mentioned here recently (most of our testing has been done on SoaS or
XO-1.5),

* Try to optimize the size of our bundle to adapt to the new size of
free space on 12.1.0,

* Find a new way to create our bundle. Until this year we've got a
customization key but unfortunately it's not supported now: we can't
deployed 63 activities, one by one on 200 XO!

 

I will give you news of our work but I’m happy to hear your advices.

 

Best regards from France.

 

Lionel.

 

P.S.: Most of this boring testing works has been done by new OLPC France
volunteers (especially Aurélie, Alexandre and Jean). Thanks a lot to them
for that.

 

[1]  http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/olpc-france/2013-March/001700.html
http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/olpc-france/2013-March/001700.html

[2]
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApkC1NVMZoZodEJyNlprMFI3QUFvbE
1Wd1pyWUUxcEE#gid=0
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApkC1NVMZoZodEJyNlprMFI3QUFvbE1
Wd1pyWUUxcEE#gid=0

[3]  http://olpc-france.org/download/patchs-activity.info.zip
http://olpc-france.org/download/patchs-activity.info.zip

 

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Re: OLPC France 12.1.0 testing results

2013-03-15 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
For hulahop, the best is replace the use of gecko by webkit.
You can see how simple is the code, by example in the Help activity.

About Colors, I have tried but didn't find the solution to the pending issue
(git version starts,  but the palette to select colors do not reply)
If you find the solution, please communicate.

Gonzalo

On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 7:03 PM, lio...@olpc-france.org wrote:

 Hi all,

  

 We're currently preparing the 2013 mission to our Nosy Komba deployment:
 150 XO-1 + 50 XO-1.5.

 So, a team of volunteer have tested on 12.1.0/Sugar 0.96 our 63 activities
 currently deployed there on OLPC 883/Sugar 0.94.1. 

 I know it's a hot topic here :-) so following is the result of our test.
 

  

 The detailed report is here [1] (in french) and the spreadsheet report is
 here [2].

 Results are not so bad: 71% of activities works without any adaptation,
 20% with a minor one (activity.info upgrade, find here [3] a patch with
 all activity.info we've upgraded). Only 4 activities don't work at all.***
 *

  

 The next step for us:

 **· **Fix the last issue regarding hulahop incompatibility on 3
 activities (Map, Madagascar, HelpFR),

 **· **Fix the TypeError issue on Colors activity,

 **· **Do intensive testing on XO-1 to check the performance issue
 mentioned here recently (most of our testing has been done on SoaS or
 XO-1.5),

 **· **Try to optimize the size of our bundle to adapt to the new
 size of free space on 12.1.0,

 **· **Find a new way to create our bundle. Until this year we've
 got a customization key but unfortunately it's not supported now: we can't
 deployed 63 activities, one by one on 200 XO!

  

 I will give you news of our work but I’m happy to hear your advices.

  

 Best regards from France.

  

 Lionel.

  

 P.S.: Most of this boring testing works has been done by new OLPC France
 volunteers (especially Aurélie, Alexandre and Jean). Thanks a lot to them
 for that.

  

 [1] http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/olpc-france/2013-March/001700.html**
 **

 [2]
 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApkC1NVMZoZodEJyNlprMFI3QUFvbE1Wd1pyWUUxcEE#gid=0
 

 [3] http://olpc-france.org/download/patchs-activity.info.zip

 ** **

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