Re: [SailfishDevel] Accessing C++ properties from QML
Hi,
try having a look at this
http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qtqml-cppintegration-interactqmlfromcpp.html
2015-08-13 14:14 GMT+01:00 Antonio Mancini ziobill...@gmail.com:
Hi all, i need to access a property of a C++ Class, declared inside
another class, from QML.
This is the principal class:
#ifndef MANAGER_H
#define MANAGER_H
#include QObject
#include QTextStream
#include QFile
#include monster.h
#include move.h
#include turnmanager.h
class Manager : public QObject
{
Q_OBJECT
public:
explicit Manager(QObject *parent = 0);
int activeId;
QString activeString;
int enemyId;
Monster active;
Monster enemy;
Move activeMove;
Move enemyMove;
Q_INVOKABLE void saveActive();
Q_INVOKABLE void fetchMonster( const int level );
Q_INVOKABLE void assignMoves(Monster monster );
Q_INVOKABLE void setMove( Move move, const int id );
signals:
void fetchMonsterDone();
public slots:
};
#endif // MANAGER_H
this is the Monster Class:
#ifndef MONSTER_H
#define MONSTER_H
#include QObject
#include QString
#include math.h
#include move.h
class Monster : public QObject
{
Q_OBJECT
public:
explicit Monster(QObject *parent = 0);
...
QString name;
...
};
#endif // MONSTER_H
in my qml page i include the class properly and i have something like this:
Page {
id: page
Manager {
id: manager
onFetchMonsterDone: {
console.log(Fetch done)
}
}
Label {
id: label
}
}
after doing some operations with fetchMonster(), the active class has
been assigned some values to its properties, i need to access these values
from QML in the onFetchMonsterDone, let's say i need to assign to
label.text the value of manager.active.name
OR
i read there are some ways to access end edit QML properties from C++
Can someone help me?
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Update on SailfishOS roadmap
Well done guys, the roadmap page is quite nice and informative :) 2015-05-11 13:43 GMT+01:00 Luca Donaggio donag...@gmail.com: Great guys! I really appreciate this! On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 2:25 PM, Soumya Bijjal soumya.bij...@jollamobile.com wrote: Hello all, It's been a while since the last update from us. The development of the new UI framework and adaptation work for the Tablet have been our priority for some time and will continue to be until we are ready with the sales release for the Tablet. Alongside this important activity, we are preparing for the next software upgrade, version 1.1.6 for your Jolla phone. Here are the highlights on what to expect: - Private browsing mode in Browser - View detailed disk usage information under Settings System About Product, by tapping on the memory info - Option to search in Mail app - Notification for voicemail (subject to your operator providing push notifications) - View phone number of your contact in the call log by invoking the context sensitive menu (via press and hold action) on the call log entry - Display a notification if an email attachment cannot be opened - Import .ical and .vcs entries from the transfer list to the Calendar app - Option to send read receipt to the recipient when you have opened the MMS received As you may have noticed, we've recently put up the development roadmap at sailfishos.org (accessed as a link from the highlevel roadmap page): https://sailfishos.org/developmentroadmap/ It has now been updated after our iteration planning day on last Tuesday. We will continue update the page after every planning day to reflect the advancements. Each item in the roadmap view signifies when the task is expected _to be started_. In addition, we will provide more meta-data to each task to indicate when it is implemented (read merged into our master code base) followed by which software version it was released in. We chose this method over displaying when an item is expected to be delivered as more often than not, tasks span through multiple weeks, sometimes put on hold due to one matter or another. We trust that a combination of whats started, implemented and released gives you a better picture of our development efforts. - bijjal ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org -- Luca Donaggio ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Update on SailfishOS roadmap
I don't think it will, that would mean updating all the drivers to the new(er) kernel, and Jolla probably doesn't even have access to those drivers, they probably just get the blobs from the manufacturer. Welcome to the mobile market :( 2015-03-23 12:29 GMT+00:00 E.S. Rosenberg es.rosenberg+sailfishos@gmail.com: Will the kernel ever be taken to a newer longterm version? 3.14 or 3.18 come to mind here, currently there is a mismatch between the kernel version of btrfs and btrfs-tools installed on the phone 2015-03-23 12:50 GMT+02:00 Oleg Linkin maledictusdema...@gmail.com: will 1.1.4 contain new UI framework with richer eventsview? 2015-03-23 13:42 GMT+03:00 Soumya Bijjal soumya.bij...@jollamobile.com: Hi all, During the last iteration, we had an intensive development period on tablet hardware adaptation and the new UI framework. The results were demonstrated at Mobile World Congress early this month. We are overwhelmed with the positive response and reviews of the Tablet. Do take a look at the blog entry summarizing our participation at MWC if you haven't already: https://blog.jolla.com/mobile-world-congress-2015/ A quick recap on the progress so far: New UI framework: * Lockscreen with time, day and date information * Media player controls in lock screen for native Media app * Persistent status area in homescreen and lockscreen * Richer eventsview with widgets such as - displaying weather info - upcoming calendar events - shortcuts to toggle commonly used settings such as bluetooth, airplane mode, wlan and location, - shortcuts to perform quick actions , e.g search on web, take a picture, make a note etc - improved notification handling, grouping, secondary actions * Power key menu * Carousel transition to access home, open apps and events view * New swipe animations and transitions * Presence settings moved from events view to settings app Landscape mode and layout updates for apps for tablet: * Work in progress for Settings, Startup wizard, Calculator, Media player, Calendar and Gallery apps Drop upower in favour of statefs: Implementation work is now complete, now working towards gracefully handling the removal of obsolete packages. This task depends updating Mer Core OS to use newer version of libsolv, libzypp, zypper libraries. GStreamer update to 1.x: * More work on cleaning up the code for gst-droid encoders and decoders. The code is now more robust. * Viewfinder and captured images should have the correct orientation. * Hunting down issues with writing the correct orientation for the recorded videos. * Porting the thumbnailer to a more recent libav * Making sure qtmultimedia can be used with GStreamer 1.x by building it, rebasing nemo patches on top of it and fixing any issues. * PHONE ONLY: jolla camera more or less works with some issues remaining. Gallery video playback with some issues remaining. Toolchain upgrade to gcc4.8: Moved to a later OS upgrade to give us time to complete the implementation of BTRFS balancing operation before performing OS upgrade. For this iteration, we have planned the following: * Kernel update to latest linux-stable version 3.4.106 for Jolla Phone * Tablet adaptation work - recovery mode/factory reset operation - device identifiers supporting tablet OS upgrade * Preparations for Bluetooth certification qualification * Security fixes for gnutls vulnerabilities (CVE-2015-0282, CVE-2015-0294), libgcrypt vulnerabilities CVE-2014-3591, CVE-2015-0837 and openssl vulnerability notified in http://marc.info/?l=openssl- announcem=142667932619582w=2 * Implement parts of voicecall-manager for SIP and other VoIP protocols * Finalize the new UI framework features demonstrated during MWC * Tablet-optimized apps and landscape layouts * Refresh visuals for Sailfish Silica components * Virtual/HW keyboard opening policy * Email Search * Improve folders list in Mail app * Continue with the following from last iteration - Camera adaptation work on Tablet - File system layout implementation for Tablet - Android runtime support Tablet - Continue working on landscape modes for apps - Settings pane to display disk usage - Allow factory reset operation to reset the OS to the latest available public version instead of the age old factory image - Upgrade to Pulseaudio 6.0 - Private browsing - SIP integration into accounts. test IM capabilities in messaging The following tasks unfortunately did not progress during the last iteration, we hope to catch up on them now. - Review certification middleware code - USB tethering UI - Enable open VPN support on the OS The next OS upgrade, version 1.1.4 (Aijänpäivänjärvi) is in the release candidate phase. Here are a few highlights on the release content: - Landscape mode for Maps - Split keyboard in landscape mode with a setting to disable it if needed under Settings System
Re: [SailfishDevel] SailfishOS, open source, collaboration meeting: do we have it this week?
I added another point to the topics list ;) 2015-01-19 15:33 GMT+01:00 David Greaves david.grea...@jolla.com: I added the FOSDEM meetup meal to the agenda David On 19/01/15 12:00, Iekku Pylkka wrote: Ahoy, Seems that we haven’t received any topics for meeting: https://together.jolla.com/question/54157/sailfishos- open-source-collaboration-meeting-planning/ I will check situation later today, but if no topics added I assume we will skip this one. Br, Iekku Pylkkä Head of Developer Affairs @ Jolla http://jolla.com https://sailfishos.org/ ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscribe@lists. sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscribe@lists. sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] QtQuickDialogs - QtQuickControls
wait wait wait :) of course Glacier UI is in development! :) We're working on it as we have some spare time, and we encourage everyone to contribute by joining #nemomobile and asking there ;) Andrea (faenil, one of the qqc-nemo developers) 2015-01-07 23:03 GMT+01:00 Alex Smirnoff smirnoff...@gmail.com: Hello. After some further search I have found this project https://github.com/nemomobile/qtquickcontrols-nemo and there is also binaries for Jolla http://locusf.blogspot.fi/2014/03/glacier-ui-homescreen-on-jolla.html glacier-ui it self is apparently not in development any more, but qtuickcontrols is here and we can try to use it. 2014-12-16 22:27 GMT+01:00 smirnoff...@gmail.com: Qtquick.controls/dialogs are not an ordinary 3rd party lib. It is an official part of Qt since version 5.1. And it is possible to apply styles since version 5.3, so they do not look different. Sailfish use version 5.2 for now. I think this could be a problem. Would like to know Jolla's point of view on this point before try to port it myself. (this should not be that hard, because I have found already repository of nemo/mer version.) Am Di. Dez. 16 21:58:11 2014 GMT+0100 schrieb Andrey Kozhevnikov: QtQuickControls are not available for SailfishOS. You can only use native Silica components or plain QtQuick 2.x. Jolla (company) not supporting 3rd party components which are looking different. But you are also welcome to port QtQuickControls to SailfishOS yourself :) 17.12.2014 01:53, Alex Smirnoff пишет: Hi, With the help of Gcompris community I try to port Gcompris Educational Software to Sailfish OS. The last problem that we encountered - we could not start application because of unresolved dependencies. The two modules are missing: QtQuickDialogs and QtQuickControls. Gcompris uses them because they add portability. It looks like that the official repository does not have this modules. I have tried to check 3rd party repositories, but was not able to found up-to-date packages. Could any one help me to find the way to have this modules on Sailfish? -- Alex Smirnov ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org -- Gesendet von meinem Jolla -- Alex Smirnov ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] QtQuickDialogs - QtQuickControls
no problem! feel free to help us improve the components ;) 2015-01-07 23:22 GMT+01:00 Alex Smirnoff smirnoff...@gmail.com: Sorry, have already got it in comments on openrepos. I woud like to use actually not Glacier UI it self, but only qtquick-controls for another software (GCompris), because controls are absent vom either mer and SailfishOS. So, thank you, that you have already done this job and adopt them. 2015-01-07 23:05 GMT+01:00 Andrea Bernabei and.berna...@gmail.com: wait wait wait :) of course Glacier UI is in development! :) We're working on it as we have some spare time, and we encourage everyone to contribute by joining #nemomobile and asking there ;) Andrea (faenil, one of the qqc-nemo developers) 2015-01-07 23:03 GMT+01:00 Alex Smirnoff smirnoff...@gmail.com: Hello. After some further search I have found this project https://github.com/nemomobile/qtquickcontrols-nemo and there is also binaries for Jolla http://locusf.blogspot.fi/2014/03/glacier-ui-homescreen-on-jolla.html glacier-ui it self is apparently not in development any more, but qtuickcontrols is here and we can try to use it. 2014-12-16 22:27 GMT+01:00 smirnoff...@gmail.com: Qtquick.controls/dialogs are not an ordinary 3rd party lib. It is an official part of Qt since version 5.1. And it is possible to apply styles since version 5.3, so they do not look different. Sailfish use version 5.2 for now. I think this could be a problem. Would like to know Jolla's point of view on this point before try to port it myself. (this should not be that hard, because I have found already repository of nemo/mer version.) Am Di. Dez. 16 21:58:11 2014 GMT+0100 schrieb Andrey Kozhevnikov: QtQuickControls are not available for SailfishOS. You can only use native Silica components or plain QtQuick 2.x. Jolla (company) not supporting 3rd party components which are looking different. But you are also welcome to port QtQuickControls to SailfishOS yourself :) 17.12.2014 01:53, Alex Smirnoff пишет: Hi, With the help of Gcompris community I try to port Gcompris Educational Software to Sailfish OS. The last problem that we encountered - we could not start application because of unresolved dependencies. The two modules are missing: QtQuickDialogs and QtQuickControls. Gcompris uses them because they add portability. It looks like that the official repository does not have this modules. I have tried to check 3rd party repositories, but was not able to found up-to-date packages. Could any one help me to find the way to have this modules on Sailfish? -- Alex Smirnov ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org -- Gesendet von meinem Jolla -- Alex Smirnov ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org -- Alex Smirnov ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Please update tzdata on Sailfish
https://github.com/nemomobile/tzdata-timed/commit/907a28d6dc39a7f95a21b2ab158de310fe30a9ad Cheers, faenil 2014-10-26 15:23 GMT+01:00 Andrey Kozhevnikov coderusin...@gmail.com: Jolla! Please update tzdata in some future hotfix release! Stupid russian goverment changed timezones again. Now Moscow have UTC+3 clock. There is tzdata 2014i available, but Jolla still using tzdata 2013i. Best regards, Andrey ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscribe@lists. sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Please update tzdata on Sailfish
yes, if you check the commit it's 17days old ;) 2014-10-26 20:09 GMT+01:00 Kimmo Lindholm kimmo.lindh...@eke.fi: Isn’t that h-version already outdated ? (5 days ago) http://www.iana.org/time-zones *From:* devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org [mailto: devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org] *On Behalf Of *Andrea Bernabei *Sent:* Sunday, October 26, 2014 5:13 PM *To:* Sailfish OS Developers *Subject:* Re: [SailfishDevel] Please update tzdata on Sailfish https://github.com/nemomobile/tzdata-timed/commit/907a28d6dc39a7f95a21b2ab158de310fe30a9ad Cheers, faenil 2014-10-26 15:23 GMT+01:00 Andrey Kozhevnikov coderusin...@gmail.com: Jolla! Please update tzdata in some future hotfix release! Stupid russian goverment changed timezones again. Now Moscow have UTC+3 clock. There is tzdata 2014i available, but Jolla still using tzdata 2013i. Best regards, Andrey ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] About emoji on Sailfish
The default SailfishOS font doesn't support emoji, as far as I know
2014-10-11 16:27 GMT+02:00 service 41245...@qq.com:
Hi, does qml text view support emoji on Sailfish OS? It seems not work on
my code.
This is a sample code for test
Label {
x: Theme.paddingLarge
textFormat: Text.StyledText
wrapMode: Text.WrapAtWordBoundaryOrAnywhere
width:Screen.width - Theme.paddingLarge
text: \uD83D\uDE04 Hello
//color: Theme.secondaryHighlightColor
font.pixelSize: Theme.fontSizeExtraLarge
}
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[SailfishDevel] Next meeting on SailfishOS, open source, collaboration: 07-October @ 15:00 UTC
Hi! First of all, sorry for the short notice! Thanks to all who've responded on https://together.jolla.com/ question/54157/sailfishos-open-source-collaboration-meeting-planning/ Here's the invitation/agenda for today's meeting: Date: 07 October 2014 Time: 15:00 UTC, for your local time: http://tinyurl.com/k9dqmkc Duration 60 minutes Chair: Andrea Bernabei (faenil) Location: #mer-meeting on Freenode IRC Those without an IRC client can access it here: http://webchat.freenode.net?channels=mer-meeting http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=mer-meeting Current proposed topics: * Intro (5 min) * How about a SailfishOS stand at FOSDEM15 ? (by community) What about the Idea? Who is in? (30 mins) * General discussions (20 mins) * Wrap up and next meeting (5 mins) Please familiarize yourself with the topics before the meeting, as well as the common Meetbot commands https://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot (it's used for meeting management and logging) Thanks and see you soon! Br, Andrea ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Regenerated existing and missed qmltypes for SailfishOS QML imports
very nice, thanks for sharing ;) A must have indeed, I'll definitely use it and contribute back, when I have time to get back to app development ;) 2014-08-31 15:21 GMT+02:00 Andrey Kozhevnikov coderusin...@gmail.com: Regenerated existing and missed qmltypes for SailfishOS QML imports: https://github.com/CODeRUS/better-sailfishos-qmltypes all org.nemomobile.* imports completions full Sailfish.Silica completions including missed completions for Theme.* and i.e. and more! Must Have! P.S. have fun and pull requests or just requests for some additional imports are welcome! ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscribe@lists. sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Announcing Mono for Sailfish
Very nice! :) 2014-08-21 23:13 GMT+02:00 Bob Summerwill b...@summerwill.net: See http://www.mobilelinuxnews.com/2014/08/introduction-mono-sailfish-os-jolla/ . I'm happy to announce that development on Mono for Sailfish is underway ( http://monoforsailfish.com).This is a continuation of MonoTizen ( http://monotizen.com), on which development has been suspended because the Tizen project is broken (see http://kitsilanosoftware.wordpress.com/2014/08/13/the-tizen-project-is-broken-we-will-be-spending-some-time-apart-3/ ). Dimitar Dobrev, the author of https://github.com/ddobrev/QtSharp has been upstreaming bug-fixes (and addressing newly discovered issues in) to http://github.com/mono/CppSharp.He'll be building the bindings, and will probably end up doing the Mono Runtime port as well, based on the fantastic job which Damien Diederen did for the Tizen Mono Runtime. Cheers, Bob Summerwill, Kitsilano Software http://twitter.com/bobsummerwill http://bobsummerwill.com | http://kitsilanosoftware.com | http://monoforsailfish.com -- b...@summerwill.net ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Creating a Webapp Application with WebView
Hi Daniel :)
could you please elaborate more?
What's the issue you're having?
960x540 is the resolution of the screen
2014-08-16 11:55 GMT+02:00 Daniel Beck d.danielb...@googlemail.com:
Hello,
I would like to create a webapp game application that runs inside a
WebView.
The problem is that the resolution reported by the HTML application is
960x540. The viewport of the HTML is set as follows:
meta name=viewport content=width=device-width, initial-scale=1
Apparently, the webview does not honnor the device pixel ration (DPR) of
the device.
Is there some property/configuration I can set for this in the QML?
WebView {
id: webView
anchors.fill: parent
url: index.html
}
Thanks
Daniel
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Re: [SailfishDevel] [CANCELED!] Next meeting on SailfishOS, open source, collaboration: 2014-08-12T15:00 UTC
... 2014-08-12 9:42 GMT+02:00 Thomas B. Rücker tho...@ruecker.fi: PSA: Meeting Canceled! Jolla representatives won't be attending and it doesn't make sense to have a meeting with just the community as all of the scheduled topics relied on Jolla. Having preparedd statements copy-pasted without discussion makes no sense. Sorry for the short notice, I was only told minutes ago. At this point in time there is no date/time for the next meeting. I'll leave that to Jolla, so they can ensure it doesn't collide with their internal schedules. Cheers Thomas ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Potential security issue ? DBUS leaking passwords in cleartext
Jonni, do you have more information to share? your comment to that thread says that Jolla was already working on fixing it during May, is there any news? :) 2014-08-12 12:33 GMT+02:00 Jonni Rainisto jonni.raini...@jolla.com: https://together.jolla.com/question/37710/dbus-monitor-shows-exchange-mail-password-in-clear-text/ -- *From:* devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org [ devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org] on behalf of Tone Kastlunger [ users.giulie...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 12, 2014 1:29 PM *To:* devel@lists.sailfishos.org *Subject:* [SailfishDevel] Potential security issue ? DBUS leaking passwords in cleartext Hi all; it seems some (google?) DBUS sso service is leaking pw's in cleartext. Please see here : signal sender=:1.1322 - dest=(null destination) serial=13 path=/com/google/code/AccountsSSO/SingleSignOn/AuthSession_0; interface=com.google.code.AccountsSSO.SingleSignOn.AuthSession; member=stateChanged int32 8 string The request is started successfully method return sender=:1.1322 - dest=:1.36 reply_serial=4633 array [ dict entry( string Secret variant string mypasswordincleartext ) dict entry( string UserName variant string ktone ) ] I myself am not worried on the google origin, but rather on the cleartext password. Giving it was leaking one of my working mail's password, I assume it could be the Exchangle plugin? Can jolla please confirm / deny? Best, tk ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Sailfish OS open source components uploaded
cool stuff, and now you're on track with this situation as well :) 2014-06-27 13:03 GMT+02:00 Ville Jouppi ville.jou...@jolla.com: On Wed, 2014-06-25 at 05:51 +, Ville Jouppi wrote: We'll upload more source releases as we have time to build them, stay tuned. There's a couple more on there now. 84db860698f75362cd82faa744838808 sailfish-1.0.5.16-oss.tar.bz2 c431c5897cc0afe7e9834adfbb47e9fd sailfish-1.0.7.16-oss.tar.bz2 Enjoy! ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Follow up on faenil's topics in Community meeting 24.04.2014 @ 10:00 UTC
yes, and who's more likely to report valid bugs of the two categories? :D (I say more likely, no offence meant to casual users, I just think the focus for a bug reporting tool should be on power users, which, from the opinions I gathered in the last months, don't have many nice words about TJC) TJC was cool because there was nothing before it...now a few months passed, Jolla should look into specialising the bug reporting offer, or (as Eric is also suggesting) it should make the link with the internal bz so strong that I don't have to be worried if I'm wasting my time by reporting super detailed bugs to a place probably nobody is going to read. 2014-06-25 17:25 GMT+02:00 sfietkonstan...@free.fr: I'm wondering how TJC is handled internally by Jolla. Some insights on how sailors proceed is very welcomed. To reply to Faenil, I would say that it depends on the users. Power users like us are often on IRC and discuss directly with some Sailors. And they can feel that TJC is a mess (especially compared to a bugtracking tool). However, the average Jolla user might just post something on TJC and either forget about it, or just follow his own issue(s). - Mail original - De: Andrea Bernabei and.berna...@gmail.com À: Sailfish OS Developers devel@lists.sailfishos.org Envoyé: Mercredi 25 Juin 2014 17:16:54 Objet: Re: [SailfishDevel] Follow up on faenil's topics in Community meeting 24.04.2014 @ 10:00 UTC DISCLAIMER: I'm saying the following words with a smile on my face, I may sound harsh but please believe me, I don't mean to :) Eric, just go into the IRC channel, and ask people there (who are, usually, the most active community members): 1) what do you think of TJC as a bug reporting tool? 2) do you think it can work? but most importantly 3) Are you *actually* reporting bugs on TJC? I heard many people who are not reporting bugs on TJC because they think it's not worth it (for different reasons) and I'm not reporting them myself, because I keep stumbling on unanswered posts. But that is normal, sailors are not developer-care agents, they can't spend all day reading all kind of reports trying to understand which bug is valid, which one is invalid, and then also keep those posts updated with the news! Hence my point... 2014-06-25 16:54 GMT+02:00 Eric Le Roux eric.ler...@jolla.com : El 25/06/14 16:40, Eric Le Roux escribió: There was a fair deal of discussion yesterday during our meeting (see, http://merproject.org/meetings/mer-meeting/2014/mer-meeting.2014-06-24-08.44.html) on two important topics raised by faenil. The URL is not correct... ;-) Thanks Manuel! And apologies :) Here: http://merproject.org/meetings/mer-meeting/2014/mer-meeting.2014-06-24-08.44.html Cheers, Eric -- Bye, Manu. manu at manu.ms http://www.manu.ms Manuel Soriano * Lo Perello/Valencia/Spain * ( AbM Compliant ) La política es el arte de buscar o crear problemas, hacer un diagnostico falso, aplicar remedios equivocados para nunca resolverlos. (Graucho Marx y yo) ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Follow up on faenil's topics in Community meeting 24.04.2014 @ 10:00 UTC
To avoid misunderstandings: I *do* believe sailors read the threads at TJC, and they file bugs, when they can. The problem, imho, is not sailors not reading, it's TJC having too many reports to be an efficient bug tracking solution. If I were a sailors, and I were to really track all threads on TJC and file bugs in the internal bugzilla, I think I wouldn't have time to keep coding sailfish pieces. Really keeping track of threads in TJC is a fulltime job by itself, we *can't* expect sailors to be able to follow it very close... I'll be *very* happy to be proven wrong...all I want is the best for Jolla 2014-06-25 17:42 GMT+02:00 Andrea Bernabei and.berna...@gmail.com: yes, and who's more likely to report valid bugs of the two categories? :D (I say more likely, no offence meant to casual users, I just think the focus for a bug reporting tool should be on power users, which, from the opinions I gathered in the last months, don't have many nice words about TJC) TJC was cool because there was nothing before it...now a few months passed, Jolla should look into specialising the bug reporting offer, or (as Eric is also suggesting) it should make the link with the internal bz so strong that I don't have to be worried if I'm wasting my time by reporting super detailed bugs to a place probably nobody is going to read. 2014-06-25 17:25 GMT+02:00 sfietkonstan...@free.fr: I'm wondering how TJC is handled internally by Jolla. Some insights on how sailors proceed is very welcomed. To reply to Faenil, I would say that it depends on the users. Power users like us are often on IRC and discuss directly with some Sailors. And they can feel that TJC is a mess (especially compared to a bugtracking tool). However, the average Jolla user might just post something on TJC and either forget about it, or just follow his own issue(s). - Mail original - De: Andrea Bernabei and.berna...@gmail.com À: Sailfish OS Developers devel@lists.sailfishos.org Envoyé: Mercredi 25 Juin 2014 17:16:54 Objet: Re: [SailfishDevel] Follow up on faenil's topics in Community meeting 24.04.2014 @ 10:00 UTC DISCLAIMER: I'm saying the following words with a smile on my face, I may sound harsh but please believe me, I don't mean to :) Eric, just go into the IRC channel, and ask people there (who are, usually, the most active community members): 1) what do you think of TJC as a bug reporting tool? 2) do you think it can work? but most importantly 3) Are you *actually* reporting bugs on TJC? I heard many people who are not reporting bugs on TJC because they think it's not worth it (for different reasons) and I'm not reporting them myself, because I keep stumbling on unanswered posts. But that is normal, sailors are not developer-care agents, they can't spend all day reading all kind of reports trying to understand which bug is valid, which one is invalid, and then also keep those posts updated with the news! Hence my point... 2014-06-25 16:54 GMT+02:00 Eric Le Roux eric.ler...@jolla.com : El 25/06/14 16:40, Eric Le Roux escribió: There was a fair deal of discussion yesterday during our meeting (see, http://merproject.org/meetings/mer-meeting/2014/mer-meeting.2014-06-24-08.44.html) on two important topics raised by faenil. The URL is not correct... ;-) Thanks Manuel! And apologies :) Here: http://merproject.org/meetings/mer-meeting/2014/mer-meeting.2014-06-24-08.44.html Cheers, Eric -- Bye, Manu. manu at manu.ms http://www.manu.ms Manuel Soriano * Lo Perello/Valencia/Spain * ( AbM Compliant ) La política es el arte de buscar o crear problemas, hacer un diagnostico falso, aplicar remedios equivocados para nunca resolverlos. (Graucho Marx y yo) ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] my letter on switching sides [non-technical]
Good luck Jarko, have fun on the new ship! :) 2014-06-12 9:30 GMT+02:00 sfietkonstan...@free.fr: Thank you a lot for work done in SDK ! And good luck for the future :) - Mail original - De: Jarko Vihriala jarko.vihri...@jolla.com À: Sailfish OS Developers devel@lists.sailfishos.org Envoyé: Mercredi 11 Juin 2014 20:25:50 Objet: [SailfishDevel] my letter on switching sides [non-technical] Hello there! This is my announcement to Sailfish developer community that I'm switching sides. That's right, after next week I will be present in the community only as private person with no direct connection to Jolla Oy. If you did not read between the lines - I have resigned from my post as chief SDK Engineer in Jolla and my last working day is tomorrow, 12.6.2014. I recently got a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity at somewhere else and just could not resist to take it on, you'll find out about it soon enough. Making the decision to leave Jolla was not easy. What now? Actually the SDK team has received new members and they are already working on to get the next release out, so there should not be any stalling of the engine. The harbour ranks stay intact also, so the biggest difference is that you'll see someone else posting SDK announcement mails after this week is over. Traditional support channels (#sailfishos irc, devel mailing list and TJC) keep running just like before. I would like to thank you all in the community so far for such unforgettable journey. We have shown the world together what it means to be part of this tribe. Yes, there have been ups and downs but overall the atmosphere has been and is great. So there, I hate long goodbyes (like I told my colleagues yesterday) so - let's keep on rowing and keep those apps hitting the Jolla Store! with love, Jarko (jake9xx) ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] I want to develop new keyboard
Have a look at this thread ;) http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=91917 2014-06-04 20:39 GMT+02:00 Najden Pendov darkwolf1...@gmail.com: Hello to all Jolla developers. I'd really like to have keyboard for my language (Bulgarian). The only Cyrillic keyboard is Russian and it gives me real hard time. I'm new and documentation about Sailfish OS is not much or I just can't find it. My question is: Where I can find source of the keyboards? ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscribe@lists. sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Next meeting on SailfishOS, open source, collaboration: 03-June @ 10:00 UTC
Thanks for volunteering! :) just an info: your email ended up in my gmail spam folder :/ 2014-06-02 21:44 GMT+02:00 Sebastian Meyer sebast...@netzvieh.de: Hi! Thanks to everyone who've responded on http://piratepad.net/SailfishOSSMeetings Here's the invitation/reminder for tomorrow's meeting: Date: 03 June 2014 Time: 10:00 UTC, for your local time: http://bit.ly/1pbJprh (note different time from past couple of meetings) Duration 90 minutes Chair: Sebastian Meyer, netzvieh, Community Member Location: #mer-meeting on Freenode IRC Those without an IRC client can access it here: http://webchat.freenode.net?channels=mer-meeting Current proposed topics: * Intro (5 min) * Harbour and SailfishOS apps compatibility, Basil Semuonov (30 min) * Update on ambiences and icon themes, stephg (10 min) * Software sources and packages management build into system, coderus (10 min) * Updates on Action points of last meetings, unnamed? (5 min) * Community guidelines, communication channels and Jollas communication (30 min) Please familiarize yourself with the topics before the meeting, as well as the common Meetbot commands https://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot (it's used for meeting management and logging) Thanks and see you at the meeting! Best Regards netzvieh ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Acceptable Behaviour Guidelines - you decide
+1 to Ville's post 2014-05-28 13:11 GMT+02:00 Ville M. Vainio vivai...@gmail.com: It's not massive change to write up a guideline - the guideline does not even need to address what *can* be discussed, but it can address what *can't* be discussed, or what tone you need to maintain. It doesn't need a process or anything, just write it up and assume people will adhere to it (and deal with uncompliance later on). Sometimes common sense is a sufficient guideline, but, well, sometimes it isn't. On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 8:54 PM, christopher.l...@thurweb.ch wrote: Hi Stefano Sorry If I distracted the line of argument with the forum vs. ML vs. TJC thing... To directly answer your / David's question: I have been in the ML since pretty early on, and I have never felt oh I wish this list was moderated, get me out of here Indeed I have welcomed the wide range of topics from intensely technical through to Jolla's take on Open Source. Equally I have never felt he / she should be summarily booted off the M (though I can't exclude the possibility that others may think that in my case ...). The past few days have been very different from the norm, and we should not make massive changes based on them alone. However it is possible that as this community increases, and becomes less of a small intimate family, then the need for moderation may grow. Chris Zitat von Stefano Mosconi stefano.mosc...@jolla.com: It seems that the original topic was a bit forgotten in favor of the forum vs. ML vs. TJC (which is a good and intersting topic but no matter what tool we use we will have to go back to the main question). Just to try to steer the boat back on the original journey this the question that David was asking at the beginning: On 22/05/14 17:18, David Greaves wrote: We need to be careful about over-policing discussions but there is such a thing as under-policing too. How would we (community, not Jolla) determine the line? and what measures do we think should be taken? Lorn pointed to this as a useful document: http://www.kde.org/code-of-conduct/ Stefano ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscribe@lists. sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscribe@lists. sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] was Acceptable Behaviour.. -- Forum
You don't need to follow the forum...there are subscriptions, which you can also enable by default on all threads, if you want a ML-like send me an email with the content of every new post 2014-05-26 9:53 GMT+02:00 Norbert Wenzel norbert.wenzel.li...@gmail.com: On 05/26/2014 09:21 AM, Ruediger Gad wrote: Why not let the users make the decision? I.e., we have a mailing list and a QA site already, just the forum is missing. So, if there were a forum as well, it would show over time how the usage and the user counts of the different infrastructures develops. I know that from other projects and what happened there was that some people use forums and some people use mailinglists. The two communities don't have much intersection. Which might or might not be a desired outcome depending on the size of the community. Personally I have to say that I wouldn't use a forum or any other web-based platform. I mean, if I really had to I'd post my question there but I wouldn't follow discussions, since I'd need to actively visit the forum. I prefer ML because I have one single spot where all messages of all lists can be found and I'm reading along when I have the time to do so. So besides my personal opinion I just wanted to say that too many options for discussion might lead to fragmentation instead of making everybody happy. Norbert ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] was Acceptable Behaviour.. -- Forum
I agree, sections and subsections are important, random tags can't take their role imho :/ An alternative could be to force people to use only a LIMITED number of tags decided by Jolla? in that way we'd only have tags which basically act as sections. That means losing tags as we know it, and trying to turn tags into something like sections 2014-05-26 10:49 GMT+02:00 k...@iol.cz: Without sections and subsection it is only ocean of mess. Mess of tags not helped. :( Kaacz Mon May 26 2014 09:50:11 GMT+0200 (CEST), Stefano Mosconi napsal: On 26/05/14 10:21, Ruediger Gad wrote: Hi, just to add a bit of my opinion as well. Just a mailing list is imho not enough. Personally, I like a forum. Even though, due to its nature(?), it might attract more OT discussion. However, such OT discussion can be canalized by proper categorization, e.g., OT sections etc. Canalizing discussions into topics, e.g., hardware, software, OT, general, etc. is imho one nice feature of a forum. But other neat features had been mentioned here already as well. I think QA sites like stackoverflow or tjc are also very handy. Why not let the users make the decision? I.e., we have a mailing list and a QA site already, just the forum is missing. Aren't a QA site *and* a forum quite overlapping? What is missing from the current together.jolla.com that you would have in a forum? Currently (to my knowledge): * You can edit your posts afterwards * You can have sticky posts * You can find quickly the right [TM] answer * You can have karma * You cannot have sections and subsections (but you have tags) * You can have mail notifications of posts Should we invest our time into making a better together.jolla.comrather than a different platform (this is not rhetorical)? Stefano ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org -- Sent from Jolla phone. Powered by Linux. No Windows, no viruses. :) ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] was Acceptable Behaviour.. -- Forum
I'm all for forums, personally. I don't like mailing lists particularly. And the only facts that it takes a decent email client to handle them well is a pretty important requirement, imho... I vote for a forum (I voted in the past as well, but it seems it didn't help :D ) 2014-05-25 17:44 GMT+02:00 Joseph Crowell joseph.w.crow...@gmail.com: On 5/26/2014 1:43 AM, Saija Saarenpää wrote: I prefer the editing abilities a forum gives over everything else. For example QtProject forum http://qt-project.org has done it really well. They have the possibility to extend the documentation by leaving notes and code examples. Also a whole section to provide snippets. The thing which I dislike in mailing lists that sometimes for solving a simple issue I need to read the whole chain of emails to catch the one which has the correct and working solution. In the forum it's possible to modify the original question to include the correct answer or even save a separate code snippet in the wiki, which is easy to find if tagged properly. +100 - Saija Ircnet/freenode/matrixx @setelani Lähetetty iPadista Christopher Lamb christopher.l...@thurweb.ch kirjoitti 25.5.2014 kello 18.13: Hi Thomas Thanks for your input. I suspect the whole mailing-list vs forum thing will be a matter of taste and experience. Both have their plus sides and downsides. I am now trying out Thunderbird, but will hold of commenting until I have got used to it. On 24.05.14 19:32, Thomas B. Rücker wrote: Hi, ... * Private Messages I'm not sure if you are serious. Did you hear about this thing called … email? ... I counter with have you heard of this thing called privacy? In some forums your email is suppresed by default. Other users only see your avatar, and thus pms are used for back-channel talk instead of email. In a small intimate community like this one, privacy (or invasion thereof) should not be a problem, but that might change if the community were to mushroom in size. m.f.g Chris B.t.w my Pizza has to be the classic Napoli ... ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscribe@lists. sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscribe@lists. sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscribe@lists. sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Screenshots in silica reference
I agree, that'd be very convenient :) 2014-05-23 7:21 GMT+02:00 Kimmo Lindholm kimmo.lindh...@eke.fi: Hi, I so would like to see screenshots in silica reference. Like there is on common pitfails -page. -kimmo -- Lähetetty Jollastani ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] On accusations made against me and the current situation.
I think you're crossing the line by asking so many questions about other people's lives and past/present/future. You absolutely feel the need to feed the fire on this mailing list? Ok! But keep it on-topic at least and respect other people, the same way you're asking to be respected. Thank you 2014-05-23 6:53 GMT+02:00 Filip Kłębczyk fklebc...@gmail.com: W dniu 23.05.2014 06:31, Carsten Munk pisze: And as one last comment. Filip, I sincerely worry about your state. You were doing so much better. I'm really sad to see how things turned out now. What ever is going on with you, it's not something I enjoy seeing in somebody I have cared a lot about as a friend. This is for sure not the way forward to get better and change your life for the better. Please don't worry about my state and I have friends support, excellent psychotherapist and I feel fine though I'm stressed and sad by the situation. I would be more worried about you and Thomas when the whole parts of this case will come out. Yes, you can judge me and have own opinions of my state that do not cover with reality. You are suggesting problem of stalking in your mail. I would ask you to tell us what kind of life experiences you have with that problem. What is stalking by your definition? Sending one single postcard with normal greeting from San Francisco to Thomas physical address (that I had from him as he sent me envelope year earlier) when we were still talking and in contact. Because of that postcard Thomas made me one big hell and humiliated me. Or do you call stalking that I've went to open event gPodder Hack Day in the open Metalab Hackerspace (exactly a year ago) just after Thomas throw me out, without giving any reasons from gPodder translation team? Could you tell me the frequency of my vists in Metalab last year when Thomas was there. How much times it was? One, single one. If Thomas felt stalked (hint: stalking is a crime both in Polish and Austrian law) he could and should have reported it to the police and police takes care of such cases if there is factual stalking, not something you call stalking because you are neither police nor the judge in a courthouse. Maybe you should really tell about what bad experiences you had with this kind of problem. Would you care to talk about your earlier past to us and what was your role in it? Regards, Filip ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscribe@lists. sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] On accusations made against me and the current situation.
if that wasn't clear enough, let me specify I was talking to Filip 2014-05-23 12:53 GMT+02:00 Andrea Bernabei and.berna...@gmail.com: I think you're crossing the line by asking so many questions about other people's lives and past/present/future. You absolutely feel the need to feed the fire on this mailing list? Ok! But keep it on-topic at least and respect other people, the same way you're asking to be respected. Thank you 2014-05-23 6:53 GMT+02:00 Filip Kłębczyk fklebc...@gmail.com: W dniu 23.05.2014 06:31, Carsten Munk pisze: And as one last comment. Filip, I sincerely worry about your state. You were doing so much better. I'm really sad to see how things turned out now. What ever is going on with you, it's not something I enjoy seeing in somebody I have cared a lot about as a friend. This is for sure not the way forward to get better and change your life for the better. Please don't worry about my state and I have friends support, excellent psychotherapist and I feel fine though I'm stressed and sad by the situation. I would be more worried about you and Thomas when the whole parts of this case will come out. Yes, you can judge me and have own opinions of my state that do not cover with reality. You are suggesting problem of stalking in your mail. I would ask you to tell us what kind of life experiences you have with that problem. What is stalking by your definition? Sending one single postcard with normal greeting from San Francisco to Thomas physical address (that I had from him as he sent me envelope year earlier) when we were still talking and in contact. Because of that postcard Thomas made me one big hell and humiliated me. Or do you call stalking that I've went to open event gPodder Hack Day in the open Metalab Hackerspace (exactly a year ago) just after Thomas throw me out, without giving any reasons from gPodder translation team? Could you tell me the frequency of my vists in Metalab last year when Thomas was there. How much times it was? One, single one. If Thomas felt stalked (hint: stalking is a crime both in Polish and Austrian law) he could and should have reported it to the police and police takes care of such cases if there is factual stalking, not something you call stalking because you are neither police nor the judge in a courthouse. Maybe you should really tell about what bad experiences you had with this kind of problem. Would you care to talk about your earlier past to us and what was your role in it? Regards, Filip ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscribe@lists. sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] qt5 ?
well they've already been moving to Qt5.2 for some time, but they encountered some interesting problems along the way it seems :) They're making sure the experience is proper now :) ask details on IRC if interested :) Qt5.3 will probably take a few more months, But this is just my opinion ;) 2014-05-23 16:41 GMT+02:00 christopher.l...@thurweb.ch: The more accurate question is when will SailfishOS be based on Qt 5.2 - or dare I say it, 5.3 8-) ? If I recollect correctly the current Qt level is not quite Qt 5.2 Zitat von mikete...@gmail.com mikete...@gmail.com: Wow thanks for the info, plenty of good news! I'm impressed by how much u r bleeding edge .. kernel 3, qt5 based UI, btrfs, wayland!!! It is a strange feeling to have much newer technology on the smartphone than on the laptop (debian wheezy) and still it's very stable, rock solid! Thanks for your hard work! On Fri, 23 May 2014 15:38:52 +0200 (CEST) sfietkonstan...@free.fr wrote: - Mail original - De: mikete...@gmail.com À: devel@lists.sailfishos.org Envoyé: Vendredi 23 Mai 2014 15:29:34 Objet: [SailfishDevel] qt5 ? Hi sorry if missed this previously on some announcement or mailing list, are there any plans / ETA to move the sailfishos SDK to qt version 5 ? Hello ! Trying to not post with webmail client (not sure of the result) The SDK uses Qt 4 to display Qt Creator, however you are already using Qt 5 to develop. Indeed SailfishOS is based on Qt 5. So technically, SailfishOS SDK is already on Qt 5. Also, do you know if QML on qt 5 is much different from the current one ? Developing with QtQuick in Qt 5 should be quite close to Qt 4. However, you won't be able to develop apps like on Symbian or the N9. The API used on SailfishOS for their UI components is called Silica, and you have the documentation here: https://sailfishos.org/sailfish-silica/ btw I love the phone and I love to develop on it, QML is very relaxing! I have a neo, my primary phone is an n900 from years, had a firefox os (cheap htc) but is currently, sadly, very flawled by hardware and software problems and the jolla, I think, is the natural evolution of the neo and the n900. I loved it from the first moment, I'm very impressed by it, everything worked out of the box, which for a techie power user is not to be taken for granted. Also, the battery duration is from another planet, I don't know how you did it :) True that I don't use it with a sim card but it lasts ages! Btw number 2, sorry .. what about lte support ? :) LTE support is coming with the next update, as stated in this mailing list already: https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2014-May/004253.html I work with phones, as many of you I had dozens, from the first StarTac ones :) The Jolla phone and Sailfish OS beats, destroys, pulverizes, hands down, everything else I've used and I use now. The usability (gestures) is genius, very quick and natural, and still power user. And it is OPEN .. so fresh and inspiring!! Thanks and have a nice day, pls stop the drama! Have a nice day ! Mike ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscribe@lists. sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscribe@lists. sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscribe@lists. sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscribe@lists. sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] On accusations made against me and the current situation.
Yeah, I'll just drop my last few lines because I've been imprecise. I'll just specify that by last months I meant not necessarily April or whatever, but that I spent a lot of effort for many months. We stopped chatting in January, or February, I don't remember, after we both agreed it wasn't helping you. I won't even reply the other points because when somebody asks advices, you tell him how he should behave in your opinion to fix his problems, and he calls you a brainwasher afterwards, that somebody doesn't deserve any reply. I'm done replying to this thread. 2014-05-23 22:08 GMT+02:00 Filip Kłębczyk fklebc...@gmail.com: W dniu 23.05.2014 20:44, Andrea Bernabei pisze: My past? Seriously? I just think you crossed the line, you're now dragging Carsten's family in as well, and that's plain unacceptable in my point of view. What are you talking about I haven't thought about Carsten's family even for a moment. As far as I know Carsten lives happily with his wife and his son in Warsaw, so no problem in that area. And now, after I put *so much* energy into trying to help you in the last months (just to be fair to the readers, let's say I've been chatting with Filip about his conflict-with-thp for more than half a year already, or maybe even more than a year, iirc) , what I get back is a brainwasher tag. I haven't chatted privately with you for many months, so I don't know what are you talking about. Moreover are you yet another person like Carsten who feels he has a mission of liberating the whole world and thinks that he knows what is better for every single person and wants to enforce that on that person (basing on own life experience). If so, you will do harm to other people, by trying to enforce what you define as help or best for other people. That also includes making statements if someone is in good or bad state or telling if it gets, better or worse like Carsten (the psychologist without any formal knowledge) falsely assumed in his mail. Andrea, you need to accept simple psychological fact that a person can only discover himself what is best for him. Someone who decides for someone and claims that he knows what is best for the other person, is looking for a slave he can give orders or manipulate, not a friend or partner. Regards, Filip ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscribe@lists. sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] A kickoff meeting about SailfishOS, open source, collaboration, way forward @ 15 April, 15:00 UTC
Let me express my view on the subject: It seems we all agree that Mer+Nemo merge is something which has to be discussed in a different meeting (and in a different place). The main subject here is about making contributions easier (and more appealing?) for *SailfishOS* users. Not Nemo, not Mer, *SailfishOS* users, from what I understood. As we all know, Sailfish is based on Mer/Nemo, so it's obvious that the meeting will revolve around Mer and Nemo as well, since those are the parts of Sailfish which are opensource. This means, I don't think we have to bring any other vendor or whatever into this meeting. This is a Sailfish-related meeting. Once the points will be discussed, the action points which are related to Nemo/Mer will be discussed with said vendors. But I see that as something that happens *after* this meeting. About the current opensource/community policy at Jolla: I have to agree with Filip when he says that those questions have been asked long time ago already, and that not much has been done to address the issue so far. From what I can tell Carsten is the only one (with Jolla hat) who really cares about improving the situation...it seems the rest of the company doesn't really do much except talking about doing it together and similar slogans. Let me get that straight, I have been doing an internship at Jolla in a timeframe which included the launch of the device, I know that most (if not all) the sailors really believe in those values. They really want to do it together and make all those slogans come true. But...but...but...there's some real action missing in the picture. It seems everyone at Jolla wants to push Sailfish into the right direction but nobody is willing to reprioritize the important things in the company, to allow sailors to spend more time on this aspect of the product. Jolla will *always* be in a rush to keep up with features and bugfixes, in the foreseeable future. That's inevitable, given the size of Jolla compared to that of competitors. So, leaving the community aspect aside because we have deadlines for features and bugfixes will not work. Again, Jolla is small, that will *always* be the case, in the foreseeable future. Jolla just has to learn to live with that, and yet be able to reserve time to develop the community aspect. That is, of course, if Jolla really wants to be a community-friendly company, as it says in its known slogans. I've already heard we've been in a rush to deliver features/fixbugs, but *now* we have more time to get this right twice or even three times, before this thread. And still, not really much has happened. Now, this said, I really appreaciate the attempt to plan a meeting with the community, and I want to state some of the things/people which (IMHO) cannot be missing from such a meeting: - *at least* one of the people in Jolla who can really take decisions in the company. Having some sailors (developers) won't help. Sailors can help explain the status of known bugs, but for this kind of planning thing the community has to be able to talk to people who can really make a difference. We all know escalating community requests to high levels doesn't work most of the times. - a lot of time: there will be many people who want to express their opinion, having the managers (people from the point above) leave because we have another meeting in 5 minutes will just make things worse. - humbleness from both sides That said, I believe in Jolla and I think we'll get this right, eventually. And we'll do it together :) faenil 2014-04-05 11:43 GMT+02:00 Thomas B. Rücker tho...@ruecker.fi: On 04/05/2014 08:21 AM, Thomas B. Rücker wrote: On 04/05/2014 08:12 AM, Carsten Munk wrote: On 04/04/14 19:39, Filip Kłębczyk wrote: W dniu 04.04.2014 18:00, Carsten Munk pisze: Hi, There has been a lot of discussion surrounding SailfishOS, the open source parts of it (incl. middleware within Mer and Nemo Mobile project) and collaboration methods/practices -- and that we can do better than how things are today. Hi, Your mail is direct reaction to this widely retweeted tweet today: https://twitter.com/fk_lx/status/452037379038408704 and previous discussion that was conducted on Twitter. It's worth to notice problem was published long time ago at Together, before it became hot: https://together.jolla.com/question/680/co-creation-leading-to-co-development/#post-id-1214 https://together.jolla.com/question/680/co-creation-leading-to-co-development/#post-id-6833 Since that time, no significant actions have been taken to fix that, but that can be understood and justified considering other important things for Jolla like preparing to MWC and Sailfish going out of beta. It's safe to say that we've been in a crazy race to conditionally deliver features, fixes and ensuring our existence. We would probably have had more time if we didn't switch SoC and do a Qt4-Qt5 + X11/Wayland transition;
Re: [SailfishDevel] HowTo package my resources (images/sounds/etc)
This is what Qt offers ;) http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5/resources.html 2014-02-27 19:35 GMT+01:00 Iosif Hamlatzis i.hamlat...@gmail.com: I cannot find a way to include my resources for my game. I have a hierarchy of folders for my fonts, images, sounds and settings files, how can I package them so they keep the hierarchy? ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] HowTo package my resources (images/sounds/etc)
given your case (a game) you probably don't want to compile the biggest files inside the binary... so you just bundle those files in your application rpm by modifying the INSTALLS var in your .pro project file More info: https://sailfishos.org/develop-packaging-apps.html 2014-02-27 20:05 GMT+01:00 Andrea Bernabei and.berna...@gmail.com: This is what Qt offers ;) http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5/resources.html 2014-02-27 19:35 GMT+01:00 Iosif Hamlatzis i.hamlat...@gmail.com: I cannot find a way to include my resources for my game. I have a hierarchy of folders for my fonts, images, sounds and settings files, how can I package them so they keep the hierarchy? ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] HowTo package my resources (images/sounds/etc)
if you just want to bundle all the files in one dir, you just add example_name.files = dir example_name.path = output_dir INSTALLS += example_name (this is for the just bundle inside the rpm package case) Read the sailfishos.org page I linked :) 2014-02-27 20:14 GMT+01:00 Iosif Hamlatzis i.hamlat...@gmail.com: ok thanks and if I am not making a Qt application but just a plain c/c++ application? Is there a way to define just the root of my assets folder? Let's say my tree is: c:\workspace\mygame\Home c:\workspace\mygame\Home\media c:\workspace\mygame\Home\media\bmps c:\workspace\mygame\Home\media\bmps\. c:\workspace\mygame\Home\media\bmps\.\. c:\workspace\mygame\Home\media\sounds c:\workspace\mygame\Home\other\ etc is it possible to say I want everything under the c:\workspace\mygame\Home folder? If I have lots and lots of sounds, images, fonts etc it's getting . (I cannot find a polite word to use) to manually add each and every file, something is going to get lost ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Limitations for icons in the event screen?
hello Boris, do they *always* show with black background? (msybe only after reboot, or maybe only when they appear, stuff like that) I noticed that also happens with android apps notifications, but not always! so in that case it's probably a bug somewhere in the image handling 2014/1/21 Andrey Kozhevnikov coderusin...@gmail.com i had same question on 3rd Januarry. Still unanswered... https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2014-January/002482.html On 21.01.2014 19:28, Boris Pohler wrote: Hi, are there any limitations/requirements for icons used by notifications on the event screen? I ask because I have a problem with transparent backgrounds of the icons, see screenshot in the link below: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/107743837/20140121141345.jpg The icons (64x64px, size about 1kB) have transparent background and for the first few starts everything is fine, but then the transparent background turns to black. I looked at the icons used by jolla at /usr/share/themes/jolla-ambient/meegotouch/icons/ but didn't found any difference. Any suggestions? Thanks! Boris ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Phone crashes with no mobile network available
hello :) was the phone really crashing (i.e. rebooting), or did you just mean the network connectivity kept crashing making the phone very slow and not very usable? I'm asking because I experienced the second :) 2014/1/9 Oliver Berger oli...@digitalarchitekt.de -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, I am actually at Lanzarote and while visiting the caves there, I noticed my jolla phone was crashing every time I was somewhere - impossible to have a mobile network available. It was so bad that I could hardly take pictures, since it was crashing all the time... On the surface again I had also problems starting the phone, so I removed the batteries... now all is working again. I have no idea how to debug this, since there are no log files in /var/log cheers Oliver -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlLOqd0ACgkQ0SdHlaw3iaegogCdFMRNDN+wX6HZykXMN97X2UAK KGIAn2+jcXqzOiipvoxm4+pcQ109KK7T =jsXc -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Serious request: please let us use C++!
As Robin already replied in the other thread, there are many ways to use c++ to do your OpenGL stuff, and I'll tell you more, the use of C++ for that stuff is recommended! :) From: devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org [devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org] on behalf of Wim de Vries [wsvr...@xs4all.nl] Sent: 05 December 2013 00:21 To: devel@lists.sailfishos.org Subject: [SailfishDevel] Serious request: please let us use C++! Hi all, This basically a very strong request to the Sailfish an Qt people. I mean this in positive sense: please don not enforce QML at the cost of C++ on the developers community. First, C(++) is THE language for openGL. We want to program shaders and heavy calculations (C++). Qt used to be well suited for this, offering a Q(GL)Widget set that enabled a nice 'stage' for OpenGL and also a nice GUI for the rest of app. Now we have go through Qpainters, QQuickitems (oh no, that's black listed also). Our QWidgets are useless now. We are enforced to do this in declarative QML. So, how do I simply calculate 1+1 in QML? Large floating point arrays for my vertices? Malloc for images? Reading buffers from serial devices? So please, make the Sailfish GUI accessible via C++ (like QWidgets). As it is now, I myself, will not be able to submit my (open source) aircraft navigation app for Sailfish. I am sure that a lot of Meego/maemo/Symbian developers will have the same problem. Google has been arrogant with their JAVA enforcement, now they are repairing it by enabling C++ via the NDK. Please do not make the same mistake. regards, wim ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Emoji in SailfishOS
Andrey Kozhevnikov coderusinbox@... writes: Back to my old question: will jolla device with sailfishos have emoji fonts to display hi-color unicode emoji correctly or i should prepare my own input method component for emoji selection? ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list I have two news for you, one bad and one good :) The bad news is that SailfishOS default font doesn't have color emoji so they will be shown as boxes The good news is that there is a fallback system (and it's working) that will get the missing bits from other eventually installed fonts :) ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] How to? using SB2 environment.
did you already do sb2-init? give a look at the guide I wrote for Nemo https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Wayland_Nemo_VM_Image#Setup_Wayland_VM_SB2_target 2013/11/12 Andrey Kozhevnikov coderusin...@gmail.com Can you give me example of using sb2 SailfishOS-i486-x86 environment for cross-compilation? $ sb2 -t SailfishOS-i486-x86 ./configure Error: Target root directory does not exist Failed to configure /opt/cross/bin/i486-meego-linux-gnu-gcc Failed to upgrade configuration files ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] qt-components-qt5
Hello Marcin, the qt-components on Qt5 have a different version, which is 2.0 so, try with import com.nokia.meego 2.0 if you want to keep testing with qt-components ;) 2013/11/11 Marcin M. marmistrz...@gmail.com Hello, I am aware of that, that Sailfish native apps should use Silica. But it's not my point in this case to switch I'm just experimenting with the old com.nokia.meego components. They're available in the repos, so I tried, how would the app basing on it work. I installed it in Emulator only - I don't need it for building. I added to Requires instead of sailfishsilica-qt5, but it's still not detected still after installing. Thanks -- Marcin 2013/11/11 christopher.l...@thurweb.ch Hi Marcin Have you installed that package to both the Emulator and the SDK Build Engine? (and synced in the SDK Control Center?) My next guess is that you get this error from QML. Normally the qml types are available in a version of the package with import-declarative in the name (to be installed to both the Emulator and SDK build chain). But for qt-components-qt5 I can't find a import-declarative version of the package, so it looks to me to be C++ only ). But as I don't have experience of that package, I may be wrong. Sorry I have to dash off, otherwise I would experiment further ... Chris Zitat von Marcin M. marmistrz...@gmail.com: Hi, I'm trying to run an app using qt-components-qt5 (installed in the emulator). It fails though. The output is: QML debugging is enabled. Only use this in a safe environment. Using Wayland-EGL Module 'com.nokia.meego' does not contain a module identifier directive - it cannot be protected from external registrations. MLocalThemeDaemonClient::MLocalThemeDaemonClient(const QString, QObject*) Theme: jolla-ambient LocalThemeDaemonClient: Looking for assets in (/usr/share/themes/base/meegotouch, /usr/share/themes/jolla-ambient/meegotouch) file:///usr/share/MeeIrregulars/qml/MeeIrregulars.qml:5:1: PageStackWindow is not a type PageStackWindow ^ What am I doing wrong? Thanks -- Marcin ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Pass data from MainPage into CoverPage
Hi Michael :)
Just delete the properties in the page and cover, and use appWindow.total
when you want to read/write on it, and you're set ;)
Let me know if that works!
2013/6/3 Michael Faro-Tusino mfaro-tus...@live.com
Hi guys,
This is a very beginner question I know, but still having some troubles.
I am trying to create a Cover Page for my app, that uses information from
the Main Page (note: this is not main.qml but MainPage.qml).
I've attempted to set up property aliases like so:
//main.qml
import QtQuick 1.1
import Sailfish.Silica 1.0
import pages
import cover
ApplicationWindow
{
id: appWindow
property string total
property string perPerson
initialPage: MainPage { }
cover: CoverPage{ }
}
//MainPage.qml
import QtQuick 1.1
import Sailfish.Silica 1.0
Page{
id: mainPage
property alias total : appWindow.total
property alias perPerson : appWindow.perPerson
}
//coverPage.qml
import QtQuick 1.1
import Sailfish.Silica 1.0
Page {
id: coverPage
property alias total: appWindow.total
property alias perPerson: appWindow.perPerson
}
I get errors saying that appWindow cannot be found, due to errors caused
by using initialPage: MainPage{} and cover: CoverPage{} in my main.qml.
I don't see why setting Initial and cover the way I did results in errors,
(so that is something I'd like explained if possible) and secondly, could
someone help me pass the information from MainPage to CoverPage (it updates
when a function is executed on MainPage if that makes a difference).
Thanks in advance,
Michael
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