Re: [SailfishDevel] GB compile

2013-12-05 Thread Cleber Rodrigues
Allright! I assumed Harbour rules reflected what the (current or future)
SDK would allow.

Sorry for generating confusion.


2013/12/5 Jonni Rainisto jonni.raini...@jolla.com

  And who says that they cannot be linked?

 Harbour intake rules != what developer can do. If intake rules are bad
 then there most likely will be alternative stores available at some point
 for developer mode.

 And we are also trying to relax Harbour intake rules in the future, but
 lets see when or if that happens.

 re, Jonni

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   It may not be that simple. For once, Sailfish apps can not be linked to
 qtwidgets (IIRC), and this is probably what that app uses.

  A new interface using QML would probably need to be written.


 2013/12/4 Randolph rdohm...@gmail.com

 Hi, can someone give a hint how to compile this encrypted messenger for
 Sailfish ?
 http://goldbug.sf.net
 Regards Randolph

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Re: [SailfishDevel] Regarding SailfishOS and its SDK

2013-05-18 Thread Cleber Rodrigues
It's just amazing how you blindly believe your personal opinions are the
uttermost truth.

IMHO you got so many things wrong in your rant, but, it's just MHO :)


On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 9:06 PM, Hotmail im...@hotmail.com wrote:

   I just watch 3 videos of SailfishOS in Slush 2012 on jolla.com and
 although I think it’s way too much nonsense about openness blah, blah, blah
 in the first video - Come on, only at the last minutes the UI is
 demoed. Don’t get me wrong, I love openness and open source, I have open
 source projects, but open is not the end goal here. Creating great UX is,
 endearing developer is, bringing in partner is. Not openness.

 I do think the UI is quite good, esp. the swipe gesture and also the more
 live tile (comparing to the one found in Windows Phone) which is what I was
 dreaming of. The default home screen is ugly though, it reminds me too much
 of the ugly default home screen of Android which frankly speaking, I think
 its home screen is uninspiring, plain dead boring. Come on, you have the
 dynamic live tile, think a bit deeper, just a bit. Overall, I was
 optimistic. The competing Firefox OS UI is pathetic comparing to this.

 But last night after playing with the SDK released (which is half a year
 later of the demo, what are you doing in the half year?), my optimism is
 gone, probably forever. BTW, I played under Windows 8.

 First one, QT is great, but only supports C++ for native development is a
 big no no no. Remember, you are a startup, not Apple, you just cannot be so
 arrogant and like Apple, force Objective C down on people’s throat. I had
 been a C++ dev for years, and I still loves it, C++ 11 is great. But boy,
 it’s not for average developer and its productivity will never match that
 of C#, heck, it’s even behind java, although with C++ 11, it’s quite close,
 esp. with lambda. Nowadays, C++ just is not meant for app development. You
 have to swallow and digest that. At least support C# which is open now. The
 fragmentation of mobile development is already way too painful for
 developers, don’t mess up it further more, please please please. If you
 really care developer, do support C# via Mono. Java as well if you have the
 resources. Xamarin is doing a great job endearing developers, why not give
 them a call? Don’t give me that openness nonsense. Be idealistic, but don’t
 be floating in the outer space and thought you guys are aliens so you can
 be unlike – Anyone or just me thought that there are way too much unlike in
 the Slush presentation? Both visually and orally.

 Secondly, relying on VirtualBox and also two virtual machines, one for the
 building and one for the emulator is just beyond me. What is going on here?
 If you are really really relying on VirtualBox – (IMO VB is not that
 great), why not package it with SDK? Its 94 MB is not very big comparing to
 the 600 MB sized SDK. Who made the dumb decision? He or she is not doing
 their job well?

 Thirdly, the merSDK VM started, but the QT Creator cannot detect it, it
 keeps asking me to start the damn merSDK VM. And even better, the phone
 emulator give me a blank deep dark screen, like outer space. Come on, you
 are smart people, you are serious people, do your test. Windows 8 is here
 for a year, its share among developers is way bigger than among average
 joe, and you don’t test on it? Just plain dead pathetic. If you guys tried
 to make a April’s Fool joke, it’s way too late. Or you guys are trying to
 play dead or trying to be pathetic, then you did it.

 I have high hopes for you guys, the N9 was great. Meego was quite good,
 too. You guys are super smart and I assume you have high ego, but don’t let
 this high ego thing and smartness blind you. Being a idealist myself and I
 have to say, you can get started on something being a idealistic, but you
 have to be realistic if you really want to succeed and reach your end goal.
 If you don’t want success, then never mind.

 Regards,
 Imgen

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