[SailfishDevel] [Minutes] SailfishOS community meeting 19.11. + planning for next one 26.11.
Hi, Thanks to everyone who attended today's meeting! It was lengthy but we had great discussions. Minutes/logs: Minutes: http://merproject.org/meetings/mer-meeting/2015/mer-meeting.2015-11-19-14.30.html Minutes (text): http://merproject.org/meetings/mer-meeting/2015/mer-meeting.2015-11-19-14.30.txt Log: http://merproject.org/meetings/mer-meeting/2015/mer-meeting.2015-11-19-14.30.log.html Next meeting will be on 2015-11-26 @ 14:30 UTC. Meeting Chair will be Iekku Pylkkä (iekku) or Carol Chen (cybette). Please propose discussion topics at: https://together.jolla.com/question/54157/sailfishos-open-source-collaboration-meeting-planning/ NOTE: Propose your topic by Monday 23.11. Any topics added after that will be considered for the following meeting. Iekku will send out meeting invite with confirmed agenda before the meeting. Br, Iekku ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
[SailfishDevel] Next meeting on SailfishOS, open source, collaboration: 19-November @ 14:30 UTC
Hi! After a break, we're glad to have the Sailfish OS collaboration meeting again! Sorry for short notice. Thanks to everyone who responded on https://together.jolla.com/question/54157/sailfishos-open-source-collaboration-meeting-planning/ Here's the invitation/agenda for Thursday's meeting: Date: 19 November 2015 Time: 14:30 UTC, for your local time: http://bit.ly/1MUwNLL Duration: 1h 10 minutes Chair: Iekku Pylkkä (iekku) Location: #mer-meeting on Freenode IRC Those without an IRC client can access it here: http://webchat.freenode.net?channels=mer-meeting Current proposed topics: * Intro (10 min) * upgrading xdg-utils in mer to master- tortoisedoc (15 min) * Request more information on Roadmap for open-sourcing more of Sailfish - bobsummerwill (20 min) * General discussions - everyone (15 min) * Wrap up and next meeting (10 min) Please familiarize yourself with the topics before the meeting, as well as the common Meetbot commands https://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot (it's used for meeting management and logging) Thanks and see you tomorrow! Br, Iekku. ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
[SailfishDevel] Planning for next SailfishOS community meeting 19.11.2015
Ahoy, Sorry for short notice, but we will delay next community meeting until Thursday 19.11. because of lacking of topics and internal preparations for Slush 2015. First proposed topic 'upgrading xdg-utils in mer to master' has gone forward, see more from: https://together.jolla.com/question/110408/xdg-open-no-longer-working/ Please remember to add topics to the agenda before Monday 16.11 at https://together.jolla.com/question/54157/sailfishos-open-source-collaboration-meeting-planning/ Thanks! Iekku ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
[SailfishDevel] Introducing the Jolla Tablet Developer Device loan program (Pilot)
Ahoy, Here's text version from today's blog post about Tablet Develor Device Loan Program Pilot, you can check full version from: https://blog.jolla.com/jolla-tablet-developer-device-loan-program-starting-soon/ Jolla Tablet Developer Device loan program starting soon From the launch of Jolla smartphpone, to the opening of Jolla Harbour [0] (accepting apps to Jolla Store), to the recent introduction of the Jolla tablet [1], our community members have asked for a Developer Program they can participate in. This demand for a Developer Program certainly did not go unnoticed! Already about a year ago, we introduced the community beta (cbeta) group as an endeavor to collect feedback from our community. We take this opportunity to thank our cbeta members for making this a success by giving us honest feedback on how each release candidate is perceived! In addition we've been paving the road for a smoother developer experience every step of the way. Some of our efforts have included: accepting more APIs for Harbour, regular Sailfish OS and open source collaboration meetings, renewing Sailfish OS portal at sailfishos.org [2], and also bringing the missing Silica documentation [3] back. Introducing the Jolla Tablet Developer Device loan program We are now ready to take the next step in our Developer Program, and pilot a developer program for the Jolla Tablet! We have decided to make the pilot phase invite-only, to keep the program focused and manageable as we start it off. We aim for an Unlike Developer Program, fitting the unique needs of our community. The developers who will be getting their personal invitations within the next few weeks are hand-picked based on their technical contributions to Sailfish OS. These are active community members (including current cbeta members), and we trust that they will provide appropriate feedback during the pilot to serve the program expansion in the future. What we are piloting now is the Jolla Tablet Developer Device loan program. Within the program we will ship a number of loan devices to selected developers by the end of June, along with early access SDK and tablet Software Release(s). As the SDK and tablet software releases aren't public yet, the devices and software will be given out for selected developers under a common Product Loan Agreement (PLA). In return, we expect feedback in the form of failure reports and suggestions for better process. We are taking this step by step, so please be patient. We will see how it goes and evaluate what else we can provide or what is needed from the developer community. If you do not receive an invitation for the program pilot, please do not worry and bear with us for a little longer. We will share info about future opportunities to join the Developer Program as it grows. [0] https://harbour.jolla.com/ [1] https://jolla.com/tablet [2] http://sailfishos.org/ [3] https://sailfishos.org/develop/docs/silica/ ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Introducing the Jolla Tablet Developer Device loan program (Pilot)
Device will be loan device unlike backed up devices. However we will prioritize the ones who has backed in the name of fairness. Br, Iekku From: devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org [mailto:devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org] On Behalf Of Tone Kastlunger Sent: 29. toukokuuta 2015 10:58 To: Sailfish OS Developers Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] Introducing the Jolla Tablet Developer Device loan program (Pilot) It's an interesting question! I back it up! On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 10:56 AM, Andrey Kozhevnikov coderusin...@gmail.commailto:coderusin...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you, cool news. What about developers, who backed tablet on indiegogo? 29.05.2015 12:52, Iekku Pylkka пишет: Ahoy, Here’s text version from today’s blog post about Tablet Develor Device Loan Program Pilot, you can check full version from: https://blog.jolla.com/jolla-tablet-developer-device-loan-program-starting-soon/ Jolla Tablet Developer Device loan program starting soon From the launch of Jolla smartphpone, to the opening of Jolla Harbour [0] (accepting apps to Jolla Store), to the recent introduction of the Jolla tablet [1], our community members have asked for a Developer Program they can participate in. This demand for a Developer Program certainly did not go unnoticed! Already about a year ago, we introduced the community beta (cbeta) group as an endeavor to collect feedback from our community. We take this opportunity to thank our cbeta members for making this a success by giving us honest feedback on how each release candidate is perceived! In addition we’ve been paving the road for a smoother developer experience every step of the way. Some of our efforts have included: accepting more APIs for Harbour, regular Sailfish OS and open source collaboration meetings, renewing Sailfish OS portal at sailfishos.orghttp://sailfishos.org [2], and also bringing the missing Silica documentation [3] back. Introducing the Jolla Tablet Developer Device loan program We are now ready to take the next step in our Developer Program, and pilot a developer program for the Jolla Tablet! We have decided to make the pilot phase invite-only, to keep the program focused and manageable as we start it off. We aim for an Unlike Developer Program, fitting the unique needs of our community. The developers who will be getting their personal invitations within the next few weeks are hand-picked based on their technical contributions to Sailfish OS. These are active community members (including current cbeta members), and we trust that they will provide appropriate feedback during the pilot to serve the program expansion in the future. What we are piloting now is the Jolla Tablet Developer Device loan program. Within the program we will ship a number of loan devices to selected developers by the end of June, along with early access SDK and tablet Software Release(s). As the SDK and tablet software releases aren’t public yet, the devices and software will be given out for selected developers under a common Product Loan Agreement (PLA). In return, we expect feedback in the form of failure reports and suggestions for better process. We are taking this step by step, so please be patient. We will see how it goes and evaluate what else we can provide or what is needed from the developer community. If you do not receive an invitation for the program pilot, please do not worry and bear with us for a little longer. We will share info about future opportunities to join the Developer Program as it grows. [0] https://harbour.jolla.com/ [1] https://jolla.com/tablet [2] http://sailfishos.org/ [3] https://sailfishos.org/develop/docs/silica/ ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.orgmailto:devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.orgmailto:devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] SailfishDevel] Next meeting on SailfishOS, open source, collaboration: 21-May @ 14:30 UTC
Umh, my apologies, mixed up new time. So it's 14:30UTC like it's says at #mer-meeting topic and at calendar invitation Carol sent to this mailing list. From: devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org [mailto:devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org] On Behalf Of Iekku Pylkka Sent: 21. toukokuuta 2015 7:56 To: devel@lists.sailfishos.org Subject: [SailfishDevel] SailfishDevel] Next meeting on SailfishOS, open source, collaboration: 21-May @ 15:30 UTC Ahoy, Thanks to everyone who responded on https://together.jolla.com/question/54157/sailfishos-open-source-collaboration-meeting-planning/ Here's the invitation/agenda for tomorrow's meeting: Date: 21 May 2015 Time: 15:30 UTC, for your local time: http://bit.ly/1FDavki Duration: 40 minutes Chair: Iekku Pylkkä (iekku) Location: #mer-meeting on Freenode IRC Those without an IRC client can access it here: http://webchat.freenode.net?channels=mer-meeting Current proposed topics: * Intro (5 min) * Opensourcing and allowing to use jolla qml components - coderus (15 min) * General discussions - everyone (10 min) * Wrap up and next meeting (10 min) Please familiarize yourself with the topics before the meeting, as well as the common Meetbot commands https://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot (it's used for meeting management and logging) Thanks and see you today! Br, Iekku. ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
[SailfishDevel] Minutes] SailfishOS community meeting 21.5. + planning for next one 11.6.
Hi, Thanks to everyone who attended today's meeting. Minutes/logs: Minutes: http://merproject.org/meetings/mer-meeting/2015/mer-meeting.2015-05-21-14.30.html Minutes (text): http://merproject.org/meetings/mer-meeting/2015/mer-meeting.2015-05-21-14.30.txt Log: http://merproject.org/meetings/mer-meeting/2015/mer-meeting.2015-05-21-14.30.log.html Next meeting will be on 2015-06-11 @ 14:30 UTC. Meeting Chair will be Carol Chen (cybette). Please propose discussion topics at: https://together.jolla.com/question/54157/sailfishos-open-source-collaboration-meeting-planning/ Please, add your topic in the post itself, not as a answer. If you propose a topic, it is expected that you show up and present it, or have a substitute participate in the meeting. It is important that you're present at the meeting to guide the discussions in the direction you want, so we do not spend time guessing what kind of info/answers you may be looking for. NOTE: Propose your topic by Tuesday 9.6. Any topics added after that will be considered for the following meeting. Carol will send out meeting invite with confirmed agenda before the meeting. Cheers, Iekku. ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
[SailfishDevel] SailfishDevel] Next meeting on SailfishOS, open source, collaboration: 21-May @ 15:30 UTC
Ahoy, Thanks to everyone who responded on https://together.jolla.com/question/54157/sailfishos-open-source-collaboration-meeting-planning/ Here's the invitation/agenda for tomorrow's meeting: Date: 21 May 2015 Time: 15:30 UTC, for your local time: http://bit.ly/1FDavki Duration: 40 minutes Chair: Iekku Pylkkä (iekku) Location: #mer-meeting on Freenode IRC Those without an IRC client can access it here: http://webchat.freenode.net?channels=mer-meeting Current proposed topics: * Intro (5 min) * Opensourcing and allowing to use jolla qml components - coderus (15 min) * General discussions - everyone (10 min) * Wrap up and next meeting (10 min) Please familiarize yourself with the topics before the meeting, as well as the common Meetbot commands https://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot (it's used for meeting management and logging) Thanks and see you today! Br, Iekku. ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
[SailfishDevel] [Minutes] SailfishOS community meeting 21.4. + planning for next one 7.5.
Hi, Thanks to everyone who attended today's meeting. Minutes/logs: Minutes: http://merproject.org/meetings/mer-meeting/2015/mer-meeting.2015-04-21-15.00.html Minutes (text): http://merproject.org/meetings/mer-meeting/2015/mer-meeting.2015-04-21-15.00.txt Log: http://merproject.org/meetings/mer-meeting/2015/mer-meeting.2015-04-21-15.00.log.html Next meeting will be on 2015-05-07 @ 15:00 UTC. Meeting Chair will be Carol Chen (cybette). Please propose discussion topics at: https://together.jolla.com/question/54157/sailfishos-open-source-collaboration-meeting-planning/ If you propose a topic, it is expected that you show up and present it, or have a substitute participate in the meeting. It is important that you're present at the meeting to guide the discussions in the direction you want, so we do not spend time guessing what kind of info/answers you may be looking for. NOTE: Propose your topic by Tuesday 5.5. Any topics added after that will be considered for the following meeting. Carol will send out meeting invite with confirmed agenda before the meeting. Cheers, Iekku ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
[SailfishDevel] Next meeting on SailfishOS, open source, collaboration: 21-April @ 15:00 UTC
Ahoy, Thanks to everyone who responded on https://together.jolla.com/question/54157/sailfishos-open-source-collaboration-meeting-planning/ Here's the invitation/agenda for tomorrow's meeting: Date: 21 April 2015 Time: 15:00 UTC, for your local time: http://bit.ly/1bdBEMWhttp://bit.ly/1C4aSzx Duration: 55 minutes Chair: Iekku Pylkkä (iekku) Location: #mer-meeting on Freenode IRC Those without an IRC client can access it here: http://webchat.freenode.net?channels=mer-meeting Current proposed topics: * Intro (5 min) * Rotating dates and times for this collaboration meeting . Carol Chen - cybette (25 min) * 3rd party application data backup - Kimmo Lindholm, kimmoli (5 min) * General discussions - everyone (10 min) * Wrap up and next meeting (10 min) Please familiarize yourself with the topics before the meeting, as well as the common Meetbot commands https://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot (it's used for meeting management and logging) Thanks and see you tomorrow! Br, Iekku. ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Mer weekly bug triages?
This triage is for Mer project, so we go through only item’s from Mer Bugzilla: https://bugs.merproject.org/ What comes to community patches to other than Mer side, we need to figure out the best working solution. Br, Iekku From: devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org [mailto:devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org] On Behalf Of E.S. Rosenberg Sent: 12. huhtikuuta 2015 18:04 To: Sailfish OS Developers Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] Mer weekly bug triages? Do you accept patches to stuff like jolla-calendar during these meetings from the community? 2015-04-10 14:20 GMT+03:00 Denis Zalevskiy denis.zalevs...@jolla.commailto:denis.zalevs...@jolla.com: On 04/10/2015 01:29 PM, Iekku Pylkka wrote: Ahoy, We used to have a bug triage [0] for Nemo from: 7:00 UTC to 8:00 UTC and for Mer from 11:00 UTC to 12:00 UTC every Monday in #mer-meeting on irc.freenode.nethttp://irc.freenode.net. Nemo middleware bugs have been moved to Mer now, and since Mer starts to be more active I assume it would be good to start weekly triages again. We have developers around the world, so we need to find time and day, most suitable for everyone. Ideas? Proposals? I’m willing to chair triages to get things started. I guess for people living in EEST the most suitable timeframe is any time 11:00-16:00 UTC. - denis Br, Iekku Pylkkä [0] “A bug triage is a process to ensure bug report completeness, Analyze and move bug to proper component if needed, Set Assignee of bug report (via Assigned to field) to proper bug owner if any exist, Set appropriate bug priority. Adjust bug severity properly (initially set by bug reporter), Resolve obvious invalid, duplication, won’t fix bugs etc., Forward bugs in upstream components to upstream bugtrackers and adding the upstream URL to the URL field of the report, if applicable, check if bugs should become tasks, etc. Software developers are more than welcome to attend, to add a technical angle and perhaps assign some bugs to themselves to work on.” ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.orgmailto:devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.orgmailto:devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
[SailfishDevel] SailfishOS community meeting tomorrow, 14.4.2015?
Ahoy, We postponed meeting one week due only one topic. Situation is still same. Please propose topics today before 17:00 UTC: https://together.jolla.com/question/54157/sailfishos-open-source-collaboration-meeting-planning/ Or we might have to postpone meeting again. I will check topics again in the evening and make invitation if there's need for meeting. Br, Iekku ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] SailfishOS community meeting tomorrow, 14.4.2015?
Ahoy, Since no new topics proposed, meeting is postponed one more week. Let's hope we have enough topics on Tuesday 21.4.2015. Br, Iekku From: devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org [devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org] on behalf of Iekku Pylkka [iekku.pyl...@jolla.com] Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 11:08 AM To: devel@lists.sailfishos.org Subject: [SailfishDevel] SailfishOS community meeting tomorrow, 14.4.2015? Ahoy, We postponed meeting one week due only one topic. Situation is still same. Please propose topics today before 17:00 UTC: https://together.jolla.com/question/54157/sailfishos-open-source-collaboration-meeting-planning/ Or we might have to postpone meeting again. I will check topics again in the evening and make invitation if there’s need for meeting. Br, Iekku ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] [Minutes] SailfishOS community meeting 24.3 + planning for next one 7.4
Ahoy, Since there's only one proposed topic for tomorrow, I propose we postpone meeting one week ie. until 14th of April. Same time. Br, Iekku -Original Message- From: devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org [mailto:devel- boun...@lists.sailfishos.org] On Behalf Of Iekku Pylkka Sent: 2. huhtikuuta 2015 11:57 To: Sailfish OS Developers Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] [Minutes] SailfishOS community meeting 24.3 + planning for next one 7.4 Ahoy, As a kind reminder, please propose your topic by Friday 3.4. Any topics added after that will be considered for the following meeting. https://together.jolla.com/question/54157/sailfishos-open-source- collaboration-meeting-planning/ Br, Iekku -Original Message- From: devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org [mailto:devel- boun...@lists.sailfishos.org] On Behalf Of Carol Chen Sent: 24. maaliskuuta 2015 19:03 To: devel@lists.sailfishos.org Subject: [SailfishDevel] [Minutes] SailfishOS community meeting 24.3 + planning for next one 7.4 Hi, Thanks to everyone who attended today's meeting. Minutes/logs: Minutes: http://merproject.org/meetings/mer-meeting/2015/mer-meeting.2015- 03- 24-15.00.html Minutes (text): http://merproject.org/meetings/mer-meeting/2015/mer-meeting.2015- 03- 24-15.00.txt Log: http://merproject.org/meetings/mer-meeting/2015/mer-meeting.2015- 03- 24-15.00.log.html Next meeting will be on 2015-04-07 @ 15:00 UTC. Meeting Chair will be Iekku Pylkkä (iekku). Please propose discussion topics at: https://together.jolla.com/question/54157/sailfishos-open-source- collaboration-meeting-planning/ If you propose a topic, it is expected that you show up and present it, or have a substitute participate in the meeting. It is important that you're present at the meeting to guide the discussions in the direction you want, so we do not spend time guessing what kind of info/answers you may be looking for. NOTE: Propose your topic by Friday 3.4. Any topics added after that will be considered for the following meeting. Iekku will send out meeting invite with confirmed agenda before the meeting. Cheers, Carol -- Carol cybette Chen Community Chief @ Jolla http://jolla.com +358403502527 @ SMS,PSTN,WeChat cybette @ FreenodeIRC,Twitter,Weibo,LinkedIn,Skype ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] [Minutes] SailfishOS community meeting 24.3 + planning for next one 7.4
Ahoy, As a kind reminder, please propose your topic by Friday 3.4. Any topics added after that will be considered for the following meeting. https://together.jolla.com/question/54157/sailfishos-open-source-collaboration-meeting-planning/ Br, Iekku -Original Message- From: devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org [mailto:devel- boun...@lists.sailfishos.org] On Behalf Of Carol Chen Sent: 24. maaliskuuta 2015 19:03 To: devel@lists.sailfishos.org Subject: [SailfishDevel] [Minutes] SailfishOS community meeting 24.3 + planning for next one 7.4 Hi, Thanks to everyone who attended today's meeting. Minutes/logs: Minutes: http://merproject.org/meetings/mer-meeting/2015/mer-meeting.2015-03- 24-15.00.html Minutes (text): http://merproject.org/meetings/mer-meeting/2015/mer-meeting.2015-03- 24-15.00.txt Log: http://merproject.org/meetings/mer-meeting/2015/mer-meeting.2015-03- 24-15.00.log.html Next meeting will be on 2015-04-07 @ 15:00 UTC. Meeting Chair will be Iekku Pylkkä (iekku). Please propose discussion topics at: https://together.jolla.com/question/54157/sailfishos-open-source- collaboration-meeting-planning/ If you propose a topic, it is expected that you show up and present it, or have a substitute participate in the meeting. It is important that you're present at the meeting to guide the discussions in the direction you want, so we do not spend time guessing what kind of info/answers you may be looking for. NOTE: Propose your topic by Friday 3.4. Any topics added after that will be considered for the following meeting. Iekku will send out meeting invite with confirmed agenda before the meeting. Cheers, Carol -- Carol cybette Chen Community Chief @ Jolla http://jolla.com +358403502527 @ SMS,PSTN,WeChat cybette @ FreenodeIRC,Twitter,Weibo,LinkedIn,Skype ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Next meeting on SailfishOS, open source, collaboration: 10-March @ 15:00
: https://ti.to/develer/qtday2015?discount_code=GNR30 (cybettehttp://merproject.org/meetings/mer-meeting/2015/mer-meeting.2015-03-10-15.00.log.html#l-206, 15:48:36) 1. Wrap up and next meeting (5 min) (iekkuhttp://merproject.org/meetings/mer-meeting/2015/mer-meeting.2015-03-10-15.00.log.html#l-210, 15:49:33) * next meeting 24-March 2015, 15:00 UTC (iekkuhttp://merproject.org/meetings/mer-meeting/2015/mer-meeting.2015-03-10-15.00.log.html#l-228, 15:53:15) Meeting ended at 15:53:45 UTC (full logshttp://merproject.org/meetings/mer-meeting/2015/mer-meeting.2015-03-10-15.00.log.html). Action items 1. iekku will collect unaswered questions 2. thp to push forward qtpositioning internally. eta 1 week, no promises. 3. iekku to find out status of offline HERE maps (stefano said that it would start this year) Action items, by person 1. iekku * iekku will collect unaswered questions * iekku to find out status of offline HERE maps (stefano said that it would start this year) 2. inte * thp to push forward qtpositioning internally. eta 1 week, no promises. 3. thp * thp to push forward qtpositioning internally. eta 1 week, no promises. People present (lines said) 1. iekku (64) 2. SfietKontantinW (32) 3. cybette (25) 4. M4rtinK_jolla_ (21) 5. vmaatta (21) 6. thp (18) 7. NSA-Rep (16) 8. inte (5) 9. lbt (4) 10. Nokius|jolla_ (4) 11. vgrade_mm (3) 12. otsaloma (3) 13. lainwir3d_ (3) 14. kimmoli (3) 15. locusf (3) 16. merbot (2) 17. Munnu (1) 18. nh1402_ (1) 19. spiiroin (1) 20. sledges (1) Generated by MeetBothttp://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Meetings 0.1.4. From: devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org [mailto:devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org] On Behalf Of Iekku Pylkka Sent: 9. maaliskuuta 2015 18:45 To: Sailfish OS Developers Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] Next meeting on SailfishOS, open source, collaboration: 10-March @ 15:00 Correction to your local time link: http://bit.ly/1EvqFuy From: devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.orgmailto:devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org [mailto:devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org] On Behalf Of Iekku Pylkka Sent: 9. maaliskuuta 2015 17:48 To: devel@lists.sailfishos.orgmailto:devel@lists.sailfishos.org Subject: [SailfishDevel] Next meeting on SailfishOS, open source, collaboration: 10-March @ 15:00 Ahoy! Thanks to everyone who responded on https://together.jolla.com/question/54157/sailfishos-open-source-collaboration-meeting-planning/ Here's the invitation/agenda for tomorrow's meeting: Date: 10 March 2015 Time: 15:00 UTC, for your local time: http://bit.ly/1Azu9qe Duration: 50 minutes Chair: Iekku Pylkkä (iekku) Location: #mer-meeting on Freenode IRC Those without an IRC client can access it here: http://webchat.freenode.net?channels=mer-meeting Current proposed topics: * Intro (5 min) * SailfishOS and SailfishOS Secure – Nokius (10-20 min) * Clarification about GPS QtPositioning usage in Jolla store applications - M4rtinK (20 min) * General discussions - everyone (10 min) * Wrap up and next meeting (5 min) Please familiarize yourself with the topics before the meeting, as well as the common Meetbot commands https://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot (it's used for meeting management and logging) Thanks and see you tomorrow! Br, Iekku ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Next meeting on SailfishOS, open source, collaboration: 10-March @ 15:00
Correction to your local time link: http://bit.ly/1EvqFuy From: devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org [mailto:devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org] On Behalf Of Iekku Pylkka Sent: 9. maaliskuuta 2015 17:48 To: devel@lists.sailfishos.org Subject: [SailfishDevel] Next meeting on SailfishOS, open source, collaboration: 10-March @ 15:00 Ahoy! Thanks to everyone who responded on https://together.jolla.com/question/54157/sailfishos-open-source-collaboration-meeting-planning/ Here's the invitation/agenda for tomorrow's meeting: Date: 10 March 2015 Time: 15:00 UTC, for your local time: http://bit.ly/1Azu9qe Duration: 50 minutes Chair: Iekku Pylkkä (iekku) Location: #mer-meeting on Freenode IRC Those without an IRC client can access it here: http://webchat.freenode.net?channels=mer-meeting Current proposed topics: * Intro (5 min) * SailfishOS and SailfishOS Secure - Nokius (10-20 min) * Clarification about GPS QtPositioning usage in Jolla store applications - M4rtinK (20 min) * General discussions - everyone (10 min) * Wrap up and next meeting (5 min) Please familiarize yourself with the topics before the meeting, as well as the common Meetbot commands https://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot (it's used for meeting management and logging) Thanks and see you tomorrow! Br, Iekku ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Next meeting on SailfishOS, open source, collaboration: 20-January 2015 @ 15:00 UTC
) * SK_work (51) * tbr (47) * faenil (37) * lbt (30) * sledges (19) * cybette (16) * M4rtinK_jolla_ (15) * dr_gogeta86 (12) * Beankylla (7) * artemma (4) * kimmoli (3) * merbot (3) * daitheflu (3) * phdeswer (2) * Teunwinters (2) * Joe (1) * MSameer (1) * situ (1) * ljo_ (1) * kontio (1) * netvandal (1) * dirkvl (1) * pketolai (1) * locusf (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Meetings From: devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org [mailto:devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org] On Behalf Of Iekku Pylkka Sent: 19. tammikuuta 2015 21:49 To: Sailfish OS Developers Subject: [SailfishDevel] Next meeting on SailfishOS, open source, collaboration: 20-January 2015 @ 15:00 UTC Ahoy! Thanks to everyone who responded on https://together.jolla.com/question/54157/sailfishos-open-source-collaboration-meeting-planning/ Here's the invitation/agenda for tomorrow's meeting: Date: 20 January 2015 Time: 15:00 UTC, for your local time: http://bit.ly/1Azu9qe Duration: 50 minutes Chair: Iekku Pylkkä (iekku) Location: #mer-meeting on Freenode IRC Those without an IRC client can access it here: http://webchat.freenode.net?channels=mer-meeting Current proposed topics: * Intro (5 min) * FOSDEM Mer / SailfishOS meal (10 min) - David Greaves /lbt * Bring back Nemo middleware discussions to public places -Andrea Bernabei / faenil (20 min) * General discussions - everyone (10 min) * Wrap up and next meeting (5 min) Please familiarize yourself with the topics before the meeting, as well as the common Meetbot commands https://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot (it's used for meeting management and logging) Thanks and see you tomorrow! Br, Iekku ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
[SailfishDevel] Next meeting on SailfishOS, open source, collaboration: 20-January 2015 @ 15:00 UTC
Ahoy! Thanks to everyone who responded on https://together.jolla.com/question/54157/sailfishos-open-source-collaboration-meeting-planning/ Here's the invitation/agenda for tomorrow's meeting: Date: 20 January 2015 Time: 15:00 UTC, for your local time: http://bit.ly/1Azu9qe Duration: 50 minutes Chair: Iekku Pylkkä (iekku) Location: #mer-meeting on Freenode IRC Those without an IRC client can access it here: http://webchat.freenode.net?channels=mer-meeting Current proposed topics: * Intro (5 min) * FOSDEM Mer / SailfishOS meal (10 min) - David Greaves /lbt * Bring back Nemo middleware discussions to public places -Andrea Bernabei / faenil (20 min) * General discussions - everyone (10 min) * Wrap up and next meeting (5 min) Please familiarize yourself with the topics before the meeting, as well as the common Meetbot commands https://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot (it's used for meeting management and logging) Thanks and see you tomorrow! Br, Iekku ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] SailfishOS, open source, collaboration meeting: do we have it this week?
Thank you guys :) We have a meeting :) From: devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org [devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org] on behalf of Andrea Bernabei [and.berna...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 5:10 PM To: Sailfish OS Developers Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] SailfishOS, open source, collaboration meeting: do we have it this week? I added another point to the topics list ;) 2015-01-19 15:33 GMT+01:00 David Greaves david.grea...@jolla.commailto:david.grea...@jolla.com: I added the FOSDEM meetup meal to the agenda David On 19/01/15 12:00, Iekku Pylkka wrote: Ahoy, Seems that we haven’t received any topics for meeting: https://together.jolla.com/question/54157/sailfishos-open-source-collaboration-meeting-planning/ I will check situation later today, but if no topics added I assume we will skip this one. Br, Iekku Pylkkä Head of Developer Affairs @ Jolla http://jolla.com https://sailfishos.org/ ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.orgmailto:devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.orgmailto:devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Next meeting on SailfishOS, open source, collaboration: 7-January 2015 @ 15:00 UTC
. iekku * iekku to remind bijjal about what's coming in next update -mail * iekku to check for next meeting if we should start rolling times again 3. tbr * tbr to create TJC topic for FOSDEM planning and discussion People present (lines said) 1. tbr (81) 2. iekku (62) 3. alterego (45) 4. SK_work (23) 5. cybette (18) 6. sledges (17) 7. nsa-rep (15) 8. faenil (11) 9. dr_gogeta86 (11) 10. phdeswer (9) 11. dpurgin (7) 12. Yaniel (6) 13. JvD_ (5) 14. kimmoli (4) 15. merbot` (4) 16. jusa_ (4) 17. M4rtinK_jolla_ (3) 18. lbt (3) 19. prplmnky (3) 20. sebsebseb (2) 21. locusf (2) 22. beidl (1) Generated by MeetBothttp://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Meetings 0.1.4. From: devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org [devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org] on behalf of Iekku Pylkka [iekku.pyl...@jolla.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 6:39 PM To: Sailfish OS Developers Subject: [SailfishDevel] Next meeting on SailfishOS, open source, collaboration: 7-January 2015 @ 15:00 UTC Ahoy! Thanks to everyone who responded on https://together.jolla.com/question/54157/sailfishos-open-source-collaboration-meeting-planning/ Here's the invitation/agenda for tomorrow's meeting: Date: 7 January 2015 Time: 15:00 UTC, for your local time: http://bit.ly/1Azu9qe Duration: 60 minutes ? Chair: Iekku Pylkkä (iekku) Location: #mer-meeting on Freenode IRC Those without an IRC client can access it here: http://webchat.freenode.net?channels=mer-meeting Current proposed topics: * Intro (5 min) * SIP integration into closed source parts of SailfishOS -Thomas B. Rücker (20 min?) * Nemo / Mer / Sailfish at FOSDEM 2015 -Thomas B. Rücker (20 min) * General discussions - everyone (10 min) * Wrap up and next meeting (5 min) Please familiarize yourself with the topics before the meeting, as well as the common Meetbot commands https://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot (it's used for meeting management and logging) Thanks and see you tomorrow! Br, Iekku ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
[SailfishDevel] Next meeting on SailfishOS, open source, collaboration: 7-January 2015 @ 15:00 UTC
Ahoy! Thanks to everyone who responded on https://together.jolla.com/question/54157/sailfishos-open-source-collaboration-meeting-planning/ Here's the invitation/agenda for tomorrow's meeting: Date: 7 January 2015 Time: 15:00 UTC, for your local time: http://bit.ly/1Azu9qe Duration: 60 minutes ? Chair: Iekku Pylkkä (iekku) Location: #mer-meeting on Freenode IRC Those without an IRC client can access it here: http://webchat.freenode.net?channels=mer-meeting Current proposed topics: * Intro (5 min) * SIP integration into closed source parts of SailfishOS -Thomas B. Rücker (20 min?) * Nemo / Mer / Sailfish at FOSDEM 2015 -Thomas B. Rücker (20 min) * General discussions - everyone (10 min) * Wrap up and next meeting (5 min) Please familiarize yourself with the topics before the meeting, as well as the common Meetbot commands https://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot (it's used for meeting management and logging) Thanks and see you tomorrow! Br, Iekku ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
[SailfishDevel] Harbour QA's estimated testing time changed temporarily
Ahoy, Our Harbour QA takes longer now since we are testing incoming apps with both Tahkalampi and Uitukka. Therefor we can't promise to have your application tested within 48 hours. We are currently targeting to get apps tested within 72 hours (weekends not included), hopefully soon back in 48 hours. Thank you for your understanding. On behalf of Harbour QA team, Iekku Pylkkä ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Call for Moderators ( ML, TJC, IRC)
Ahoy, As a kind reminder :) To get things ongoing, please give your nomination before end of June 2014. :) We need community help with moderating this mailing list, together.jolla.com and #sailfishOS channel on Freenode IRC. Idea is to have both Jolla sailors and community members as moderators to make decisions (when needed) together. So, please volunteer or nominate fellow community member as moderator by sending email to developer-c...@jolla.com. Mail should contain at least nominated person's nick (for IRC) or email address (for mailing list) and where this person is nominated. Example: de...@devel.org for ML, devel for IRC. We will collect nominations and arrange a voting. For TJC, the process is a bit different. There is already a call for moderators earlier this year [1]. Let's continue using this for nominations and voting. Take a look at the community guidelines draft [2] and add your comments. Regarding the responsibilities of a moderator/channel op, it is generally to make sure the community guidelines [2] are followed, to issue warnings when necessary, and in the case of TJC, you'll have in addition the tools to keep the posts organized (more info in [1]). We can provide a backchannel for discussions between moderators if the need arises. If you are already fairly active in some channel (IRC/ML/TJC), being a moderator should not take up much more of your time. By being slightly more attentive and taking little steps in making the community work more harmoniously and efficiently together, you will probably even help save everyone's time in certain cases! Let the nominations begin! Br, Iekku, Carol and Eric [1] https://together.jolla.com/question/15847/doing-it-together-community-moderatorscontributors-wanted/ [2] http://piratepad.net/sailfish-community-guidelines Br, Iekku Pylkkä Head of Developer Affairs @ Jolla http://jolla.com https://sailfishos.org/ ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Locked in QA
Sorry, I didn't notice this mail either. In these kind of cases, send mail to developer-care@ or ping me at IRC (during weekend best to do both). There has been huge delays in replying to developer-care mails but it should be now in order and during week you should get reply within day, I don't check mailbox during weekend, that's why best to ping me at IRC. -- Iekku Pylkkä -Original Message- From: devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org [mailto:devel- boun...@lists.sailfishos.org] On Behalf Of Reto Zingg Sent: 9. kesäkuuta 2014 11:00 To: devel@lists.sailfishos.org Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] Locked in QA Hi, On 08.06.2014 01:48, Krisztian Olah wrote: Hi Sailors, I submited an update to my app London Sail yesterday, today noon I found a blocker bug in one of the features, so I was trying to remove the app going through QA before it goes out, but unfortunately it was already locked (being processed?) in QA. I did remove the binary through the web interface, and it seemed to stopped my app going live. I fixed the bug and uploaded the new binary, but now it shows up as Locked in QA and I cannot (re)submit it. I realize that I am the one at fault and I do appologize if it causes/caused any inconvenience, but could you please unblock my App? I did submit the new binary, but if it is preferable I can manually resubmit it once the lock is removed. Thanks very much and sorry again Kris Sorry for the delay, but during the weekend non of Harbour Sailors was reading the mailing list and saw your request. We unlocked the application now, so you can update it. Sorry for any circumstances and regards Reto ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
[SailfishDevel] Qt Showroom – Calling all application developers
Ahoy, Qt Showroom is calling all application developers. Please find out more: http://blog.qt.digia.com/blog/2014/06/06/qt-showroom-calling-all-application-developers/?utm_source=rssutm_medium=rssutm_campaign=qt-showroom-calling-all-application-developers Have a nice day, Iekku Pylkkä ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org
Re: [SailfishDevel] Discrimination and abuse from Jolla employee Thomas Perl
Ahoy, From my point of view (as a community member, not a sailor) this case is closed. Filip had his opportunity to talk about the topic, community reserved him 20 minutes to do so, instead he didn't want to talk but keep on spamming mailing list, even after several community members already asked him to stop. (And at least one unsubscribed because of that.) I propose we have topic in next community meeting about need (if any) for general conversation mailing list for SailfishOS community related topics and keep this as developer mailing list, concentrating on technical details. It's not my decision to make that mailing list, I would like to hear community's opinion first. If there's even need, I don't know. What comes to publishing emails I have sent, I don't give my permission to do so. Those are private emails from community member to another. We need to trust each others and respect, as I am doing also without pointing out any details from personal mails Filip has sent to me. And I won't, as it would be brake of promise and it would be disrespectful towards Filip. Br, Iekku Pylkkä, community member From: devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org [devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org] on behalf of Filip Kłębczyk [fklebc...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 7:29 AM To: devel@lists.sailfishos.org Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] Discrimination and abuse from Jolla employee Thomas Perl I would like to ask where is Marc usually shouting on stage about the values? He is also silent. Where was Jolla community manager through all this time? Once again isn't it strange that Thomas is silent through all the time? Have you seen his tweet yesterday? Meanwhile, back in the real world, people get stuff done. gPodder 4.2.0 Jungle released: http://gpodder.org/news Enjoy! *Meanwhile, back in the real world, people get stuff done.* Is all that perfectly fine as it seems from your tweet? Thomas you are doing harm to yourself. Yes, you definitely need a professional care, the one you recommended me a year ago. Yes, I have went through 5 months of psychotherapy from my own will. Yes, I'm not afraid to speak about that fact, because it's nothing wrong if someone looks for help and does something about it. I took the intensive mode with biweekly sessions, because I wanted to solve the part of the problem that was on my side and have a better life. What I have learned during psychotherapy in the end? That Carsten Munk was psycho-manipulating me by guilt tripping to make me feel guilty and be ashamed of myself. Why he was ready to manipulate someone that was a friend? Because he was afraid that Thomas may leave the company and company and his skunkworks RD was much more important to him, than my harm. He told me that in the mid-January in a moment of honesty when he was drunk, that he is seriously afraid of the fact that Thomas may leave Jolla if I would join the company. Carsten confirm how you have called me on that day? You said that I was your long-term investment. When on one of the next days I was outraged that you treat me like an object, like a pawn in a strategy game you decided to made an offer. Carsten offered me that he will help me to get a job at Jolla if I will be silent about discrimination problem and move away from (open source) stuff that is connected with Thomas. He gave me the time period to two weeks after MWC. Will you Carsten deny that? Yes that was my mistake that I've agreed to such a deal and got corrupted. I was feeling I've agreed to something highly unfair and it's something I'm ashamed of. Carsten also said many times that both me and Thomas are behaving like idiots. Why does he lacks courage to say so now? Has he said that ever to Thomas or was it only saying that to me? Carsten, will you be proud before your son and your wife of what you are doing now? You told something about baptisment of your son on IRC, so I assume you are a Christian (in contrast to me who is an atheist). I would like to ask does your God approve such behaviour? I know that you wanted to protect and help both Thomas and me, but you have chosen a completly wrong and harming path. That's not how problems should be solved, you don't have a degree and practical experience in psychology to tell people what to do. Well in fact if you haven't noticed psychotherapists don't tell people what to do, they learn about them and help them understand the problems they have. How long this mess will have to continue? Will Jolla and its employees find a courage to approach the whole problem seriously? Maybe they never will, but that would be disappointing to all the people that trusted them. You know what I feel? I feel very, very sad that Thomas and Carsten are destroying their own lives with this. In the background we see a company that has completely lost its common sense and forgot that any business should be run in an ethical way, especially if Jolla is claiming to be
Re: [SailfishDevel] Acceptable Behaviour Guidelines - you decide
Ahoy, We have been pondering the idea about forum. Truth to be told, we are too small company to follow and contribute to that as well. We are following/contributing to several IRC channels, together.Jolla.com, this mailing list and I'm bombing our technical developers with developer-c...@jolla.com questions I can't answer and can't find easily (below 30 minutes). And we have huge amount of work to do :) Yes, we could have trusted community members as a moderators in forum, but we would love to contribute and _read_ those posts coming to forum. Br, Iekku Pylkkä From: devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org [devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org] on behalf of Martin Kolman [martin.kol...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 10:39 PM To: devel@lists.sailfishos.org Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] Acceptable Behaviour Guidelines - you decide 23.5.2014 21:21, christopher.l...@thurweb.ch: Hi Jarko before we jump to splitting into multiple SF mailing lists, I wonder has any thought been given to replacing the lists with a developer' forum? I fear that multiple lists would not really help - I would end up subscribed to all of them (both those that I am very interested in, and those that I am sometimes interested in), and thus my In-box would be just as full as it is now. A forum would be divided into sub-forums, and being thread oriented (as opposed to post-oriented) I could freely choose which sub-forums and which threads I chose to dive into, and which to ignore. Well, roughly the same thing can (and usually is by people subscribing to mailing list) achieved by setting up mail filters and redirecting email to per-mailing-list folders. I can't even think about all those email directly ending in my main inbox... Regarding a forum - well, talk.maemo.org is currently basically filling the role of the main Sailfish forum and this seems to work just fine, so I don't really see the need for yet another forum instance (anybody still remembers forum.meego.com ?). Chris Zitat von Jarko Vihriala jarko.vihri...@jolla.com: We're looking into splitting the discussions on SF mailing lists. But, let's not make hasty moves and keep the technological part alive. thanks, Jarko From: devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org [devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org] on behalf of Ville M. Vainio [vivai...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 9:45 PM To: Sailfish OS Developers Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] Acceptable Behaviour Guidelines - you decide Some of the discussions here have been borderline illegal; discouraging such behavior even with absence of 'technical' moderator tools (like you have even on barbaric environments like phpbb) is not necessarily a bad idea. On May 22, 2014 5:53 PM, christopher.l...@thurweb.chmailto:christopher.l...@thurweb.ch wrote: Seconded. I could not have put it better myself. Since the early days I have enjoyed the very open nature of this forum where pretty much anything goes that is vaguely Jolla / Qt / Open Source / technical. From my recollection the number of threads that struck me as definitely better elsewhere has been refreshingly small. Many of the threads have been helpful or and or insightful. Keep up the good work Chris Zitat von David Greaves david.grea...@jolla.commailto:david.grea...@jolla.com: There's been enough noise on this mailing list recently that some people have felt they don't want to participate. We need to be careful about over-policing discussions but there is such a thing as under-policing too. How would we (community, not Jolla) determine the line? and what measures do we think should be taken? Lorn pointed to this as a useful document: http://www.kde.org/code-of-conduct/ FWIW I personally don't think there's anything happened recently that I would actually take action over. My delete key works fine and history shows that sometimes cries for help come in strange forms. David/lbt PS This thread is for generic guidelines - please keep any specific issues out of it. ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.orgmailto:devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.orgmailto:devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to devel-unsubscr...@lists.sailfishos.org ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list To unsubscribe, please send a mail to
Re: [SailfishDevel] Android QA proccess
Hi, Thank you for valid feedback. We have had resource problems to perform Android apps QA during vacation and get it up and running after vacations. Hopefully we are soon back on full speed. Thank you for your patience. See my replies above :) Br, Iekku Pylkkä -Original Message- From: devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org [mailto:devel- boun...@lists.sailfishos.org] On Behalf Of Maciej Jaros Sent: 14. tammikuuta 2014 0:44 To: Sailfish OS Developers Subject: [SailfishDevel] Android QA proccess How long does it take for Android apps to pass QA? Are they in a separate queue or just simply wait after all Jolla aps? [Iekku Pylkka] Yes, there's separate queue for Android and native applications. And different testing teams for both. I understand that there is a lot going on, but I'm waiting more then 10 days now and just now I had to release another version. Does this restart the clock somehow or what? Will I be moved to the end of the line? [Iekku Pylkka] I can try to keep your position in queue at previous place, but can't promise anything for sure. Please send me information about your app. I know some people don't like Android apps in the store, but I clearly stated that it is Android in the description. And there are different Android apps in Jolla store already. I just don't know what is going on. Getting no feedback, no hints for that long is a bit frustrating... Regards, Nux. ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
[SailfishDevel] Harbour news
Ahoy, Here is some short Harbour information: 1) In Week 52/2013 and 01/2014 our QA staff is working with reduced man power. We will be back full speed Tue 7. January 2014. So expect some delays in processing your submissions to Harbour, thanks for understanding. 2) We noticed that many forget to increment the rpm version number. Please ensure that each submission has a higher version-release, than the already approved version. We will add a version check to the web ui. But until then please check it yourself too, to avoid rejections. 3) It would make the testers life easier, if you would provide more detailed information about the changes you made if you submit a new version of your application in the web ui when you submit the rpm. The field is not mandatory and we don't want to force you. But a few sentences about what changed would help a lot, and will speed up QA for your application. Note that this information is not shown to your end-users - you may update the description though. 4) Heads up: Soon we won't allow any files not needing the execution bit set, to have it set. So .png, .desktop and .qml files (and any other file you package with your rpm, except the binary) are not allowed to have permission 755, just 644! 5) New APIs are approved as we go along - we'll inform you when you're allowed to use new APIs in Harbour apps on the mailing list. If you think you need an API (library or QML import) for your Harbour app that is not yet approved, let us know on sailfish-devel. The current list of approved APIs can be found on https://harbour.jolla.com/faq We are currently studying how the SDK could support you with 2) and 4). So we wish you Happy Holidays and a successful New Year! Happy hacking (but get also some rest :-)) Jolla Harbour Team ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
[SailfishDevel] SDK and Harbour news
Ahoy all, As you might have noticed, there has been lot of stuff happening on application development and application releasing. Some of you who have already submitted applications to Harbour (Jolla's app store intake) have faced these challenges already. Thank you very much for your submissions. Here is a list of items we have identified that cause headache and are the reasons why your app might not have gotten store approval yet: - Icon size: * SDK still uses 90x90 icon size whereas the device uses 86x86. Harbour submission requires 86x86 icons. An update to the SDK will be released soon to sync it up to the new icon size. - Icon path defined in .desktop file: * Application icon path is not needed anymore (Icon=appname is enough), you will have to remove absolute paths for Harbour submission. The home screen in upcoming SDK release will have a fix for this. - Application name * There will be a FAQ on Harbour regarding what file names need to match the RPM package name at upload time. Your application name should be in dotted form, e.g. com.example.myapp and we will soon update Harbour to validate this and then all the applications should follow this naming convention. - QML API * For QML application development we support QtQuick 2.x and Sailfish Silica 1.0. In our repositories there are various other packages but as they are not reviewed by us we cannot guarantee that APIs they provide are available in future, so take caution when using them - your application might be rejected or stop working if you are using unsupported API. - Shared libraries * You can ship your own private copies of shared libraries that you link against in /usr/share/name of your app/, you are not allowed to install shared libraries anywhere else. - Private QML imports * If you are using custom QML imports, you have to install them into /usr/share/name of your app/, you are not allowed to install the QML imports anywhere else. Also, the name of your QML import must match the application package name (e.g. an application org.example.coolapp can only have a single private qml import module, and that must be imported as import org.example.coolapp 1.0). - Runtimes * Application runtimes such as Python are not supported yet, but we are actively working on getting Python support into shape, at which point Python QML APIs will be allowed in Harbour. Stay tuned. - More info * There will be the mentioned FAQ page on Harbour which addresses the known application submission problems. Hopefully, most of these will make sense and not require clarification but if you need any help at all, just holler. We hope to expand the list of supported APIs, and are interested in feedback from you as to what you would like to see and be able to do in store applications. Should you have any questions or improvement ideas of these, please send replies to this mailing list. Happy hacking, The Jolla Crew ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
