Re: [SailfishDevel] Installing packages to the SDK and Emulator via the rpm/yaml file
Hi all As the topic of installing the to the SDK and Emulator is one which has raised many questions in the is mailing list, I have collected the wisdom from replies to this and similar threads, and have created a guide to installing on my Sailfish blog. The post can be found here: http://flyingsheeponsailfish.blogspot.com/2013/11/deploying-additional-packages-to.html Comments, corrections, and suggestions for improvement are welcome via this mailing list. mfg Chris ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Installing packages to the SDK and Emulator via the rpm/yaml file
Hi Luciano Thank you for your kind words. Your emulator / train issue is an interesting one. I do a lot of my development on a train on the way to and from work, and I am able to build without any problems. Sometimes I will have an iffy network connection over my N9, but mostly not. That said I have not tried to build with the latest Alpha update without a network connection. I can try later this evening. My primary development host is OSX; I guess yours is some flavour of Linux? When you say network interface has no address, do you mean the host, or the emulator? Ciao Chris Zitat von Luciano Montanaro mikel...@gmail.com: Thank you very much, that is a good introduction to packaging, and it covers all the stumbling blocks I have encountered with regards to packaging/ deploying/building. One thing that I have discovered is that my QtCreator cannot connect to the emulator if there network interface has no address: Since I often try to build when traveling/on a train, that was a problem. The workaround I discovered is to assign a network address to a network device like: ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.1. Then building works as expected. The rest I think is covered... But I still get bitten from time to time by QtCreator updating my yaml file on its own, which requires cleaning it up. I have a new problem now, but it is not related to building, and I will post it separately. Luciano On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 5:19 PM, christopher.l...@thurweb.ch wrote: Hi all As the topic of installing the to the SDK and Emulator is one which has raised many questions in the is mailing list, I have collected the wisdom from replies to this and similar threads, and have created a guide to installing on my Sailfish blog. The post can be found here: http://flyingsheeponsailfish.blogspot.com/2013/11/deploying-additional-packages-to.html Comments, corrections, and suggestions for improvement are welcome via this mailing list. mfg Chris ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list -- Luciano Montanaro Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job. -- Douglas Adams ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Installing packages to the SDK and Emulator via the rpm/yaml file
Hi Jarko Thanks for your detailed comments. My understanding of this topic has vastly improved. I will be spending most of Friday on a plane, so I should be able to spend some time writing an article on installing to sailfish for my blog. One bit that still eludes me is this: I can find the names required by PkgBR by kewword searching in the SDK Control Center, or with zypper se , but how do I translate these names to the format used by PkgConfigBR:? mfg Chris Zitat von Jarko Vihriala jarko.vihri...@jolla.com: Hello Chrispher, I'll inline some comments with JV: ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Installing packages to the SDK and Emulator via the rpm/yaml file
Hello Chrispher, I'll inline some comments with JV: From: devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org [devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org] on behalf of christopher.l...@thurweb.ch [christopher.l...@thurweb.ch] Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 11:32 PM To: devel@lists.sailfishos.org Subject: [SailfishDevel] Installing packages to the SDK and Emulator via the rpm/yaml file Hi all Until recently when I needed extra packages on the SDK and Emulator installed using the SDK Control Center (for the SDK) and zypper (for the Emulator). However from previous posts in this forum I gathered that it was also possible to do the same using an app's yaml and spec files, both of which are in the rpm directory. I have had some success at getting this to work by trial and error, but don't yet fully understand it. The process is quite possibly well documented somewhere, but if so, I have not yet succeeded in finding the docus! it is also possible that the whole thing is blinding obviously, and it will suddenly go click ?. So far I have established that: 1) The yaml / spec install process only works with Deploy as RPM JV:Yes, this is correct. All dedendecies that application has, must be installed to device via rpm packaging. You should never assume that there is something there, because one day it might be changed or removed. But if your rpm spec has the right stuff in, you can be sure that if it buids, it's very likely to install and run as well. 2) The spec file is auto-generated based on the yaml file, so it is the yaml file that we should be configuring. (the yaml file refers to the format rather than what it does). JV:Correct again. In our SDK there is a Yaml editor for making the things easy. Spec gets generated from Yaml. Spec itself has sections that are safe to tune. If you write stuff _outside_ those areas (marked with and ) and modify yaml - changes in spec are lost. 3) Within the yaml file there are 3 sections to which packages may be added: PkgConfigBR:, PkgBR:, and Requires: JV:PkgConfigBR and PkgBR do the same, but PkgConfigBR queries the real name from pkg-config. They both install what is needed to compile and link the application, i.e. build it. (BR = BuildRequires). 4) Requires: installs stuff to the Emulator. JV:Correct, Requires: is a run-time dependencylist. 5) I think that PkgConfigBR: and PkBR: install things to the SDK, but I have not worked out the difference. However the format of the package names these two sections accept is different. Then there is the question of exactly which package belongs where. There are xxx-devel packages which I guess belong on the SDK, but not on the Emulator; and qt5-declarative--xxx packages for QML which I think are required on both. Not to mention the debug packages ?. JV: xxx-devel packages go only to the build environment, never to the target itself. It would be fantastic if someone who understands this well could explain, perhaps with an example. Let's say we want to use the QtPositioning 5.x functionality and will be using the QML elements. What should be where in the app.yaml file? JV: I'll take that up in upcoming SDK documentation works, we can improve there, thanks for the heads up. thanks in advance Chris ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
[SailfishDevel] Installing packages to the SDK and Emulator via the rpm/yaml file
Hi all Until recently when I needed extra packages on the SDK and Emulator installed using the SDK Control Center (for the SDK) and zypper (for the Emulator). However from previous posts in this forum I gathered that it was also possible to do the same using an app's yaml and spec files, both of which are in the rpm directory. I have had some success at getting this to work by trial and error, but don't yet fully understand it. The process is quite possibly well documented somewhere, but if so, I have not yet succeeded in finding the docus! it is also possible that the whole thing is blinding obviously, and it will suddenly go click ?. So far I have established that: 1) The yaml / spec install process only works with Deploy as RPM 2) The spec file is auto-generated based on the yaml file, so it is the yaml file that we should be configuring. (the yaml file refers to the format rather than what it does). 3) Within the yaml file there are 3 sections to which packages may be added: PkgConfigBR:, PkgBR:, and Requires: 4) Requires: installs stuff to the Emulator. 5) I think that PkgConfigBR: and PkBR: install things to the SDK, but I have not worked out the difference. However the format of the package names these two sections accept is different. Then there is the question of exactly which package belongs where. There are xxx-devel packages which I guess belong on the SDK, but not on the Emulator; and qt5-declarative--xxx packages for QML which I think are required on both. Not to mention the debug packages ?. It would be fantastic if someone who understands this well could explain, perhaps with an example. Let's say we want to use the QtPositioning 5.x functionality and will be using the QML elements. What should be where in the app.yaml file? thanks in advance Chris ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Installing packages to the SDK and Emulator via the rpm/yaml file
Hi Dmitry Thanks for your rapid answer. While that is a wonderful list of spectacle keywords, it leaves me none the wiser as to what they do. Chris Zitat von Dmitry energyc...@gmail.com: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Spectacle ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
