fspanel || learning XLib and Xinerama

2003-07-30 Thread John Davidorff Pell
I've just discovered fspanel. I love it because it it so so simple. I 
use XFree86 on MacOSX so my OS is already provided for me and I don't 
need all the extra features of gnome or kde just to get their panel.

Here's my issue: fspanel doesn't have the vaguest idea about Xinerama, 
and I have multiple displays. This makes it impossible to make it show 
up on the correct one correctly. ;-)

First, if anyone has a patch/hack/whatever that will make it work, pls 
tell me!? or even a similarly lightweight panel. I've looked at fbpanel 
and hpanel, they aren't what I'm looking for, and I'm not entirely sure 
they support Xinerama either.

Second, failing my first request: Could someone point me in the right 
direction to learn Xlib and Xinerama myself? I know some C (I 
understand the language, but have very little experience) and I'd like 
to be able to fix this myself. :-)

Help is appreciated,
JP

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xf86AddInputHandler

2003-07-30 Thread Mathieu Lacage
hi,

I have spent some time recently to dive into XFree86 source code: I am
looking into learning more how it works to understand better X
performance in my application.

One of the things I don't really get is what xf86AddInputHandler is
supposed to be used for. Despite reading a lot of code and grepping
multiple times, I found only very few locations using
xf86AddInputHandler and I could not figure out what it is used for. I'd
be most grateful for any kind of hint :)

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Re: ATI Imageon 100

2003-07-30 Thread Matthew Allum
Hi;

on Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 11:04:35AM -0700, Tim Roberts wrote:
 
 The IMAGEON 100 will never be a stellar performer.  It was designed for low 
 cost and low power, not high performance.  It does have a simple blitter, and 
 it has a reasonable YUV overlay, but the motion compensation acceleration is 
 only slightly better than straight software.


I dont think were expecting 'stellar' performance here, just
reasonable will do - the current situation is ~700 k/sec bandwidth in
certain xrandr orientations. 
 
 There is an O/S-independent (theoretically) acceleration layer for the 
 IMAGEONs, but it is ATI-proprietary, and to my knowledge is only released to 
 their partners.
 

I think parts of this are exposed in the w100 framebuffer driver ( in
the sharp kernels source ), though its pretty much undocumented and I
dont really wanna risk boiling a 400$ lcd poking it. 

 So please if anyone from ATI is listening, please consider to support an
 XFree86 driver development!
 
 Didn't we just see this movie?  What's their incentive to do so?  The people 
 who are selling IMAGEON-based devices want Windows CE, and ATI is happy to 
 help those people with CE drivers.
 

ATI do mention on there Imageon page they support 'Linux mobile'. Just
wondering where/what that is

Also, I think this is a different movie. The embbeded market is
different to the desktop one.  

Many thanks;

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Re: ATI Imageon 100

2003-07-30 Thread Hannes Reinecke
Matthew Allum wrote:
Hi;

[ snip ]
ATI do mention on there Imageon page they support 'Linux mobile'. Just
wondering where/what that is
Also, I think this is a different movie. The embbeded market is
different to the desktop one.  

Hmm, have you tried asking trolltech?
After all, they did do the QT GUI for the Zaurus and presumably would 
need to know how to access the framebuffer, this being embedded. So one 
would assume that _some_ docs must have been available ...

Cheers,

Hannes
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COMPOUND_TEXT handling of iso8859-15

2003-07-30 Thread Egbert Eich
Bugzilla #228 claims that the handling of iso8859-15 in COMPOUND_TEXT 
is incorrect. According to the ctext documentation no extended
segments should be used for any approved standard encoding. According
to the newer revision of this doc (xc/doc/specs/CTEXT/ctext.tbl.ms)
is8859-15 is such an approved standard encoding.
However XFree86 contains code to grant backward compatibility to
XFree86 3.x that uses extended encodings for this.

How importand is the backward compatibility to versions of Xlib
for 3.x? Should we remove this code which makes our COMPOUND_TEXT
handling violate the specs?

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Re: CVS Update: xc (branch: trunk)

2003-07-30 Thread Todd T. Fries
Penned by Daniel Stone on Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 04:51:49PM +1000, we have:
[..]
| I did suggest this (mv hp,v hp.old,v).

If you guys care about history at all, aka the ability to checkout files
in the past, you would not suggest nor impement this suggestion.

Think about it.  Once you do the above, anytime you checkout the repository
at any point in the past, suddenly it has changed from all former archives
of the past.
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Re: CVS Update: xc (branch: trunk)

2003-07-30 Thread Harold L Hunt II
Todd T. Fries wrote:

Penned by Daniel Stone on Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 04:51:49PM +1000, we have:
[..]
| I did suggest this (mv hp,v hp.old,v).
If you guys care about history at all, aka the ability to checkout files
in the past, you would not suggest nor impement this suggestion.
Does history matter when some people simply cannot checkout a tag set 
because of a mistake that was made?  The balanced response here is that 
the history is not as important as making sure that all developers can 
move forward.  Of course, we do this only in rare circumstances, but 
this is one of them.

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Re: CVS Update: xc (branch: trunk)

2003-07-30 Thread Thomas E. Dickey
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, Harold L Hunt II wrote:

 Todd T. Fries wrote:

  Penned by Daniel Stone on Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 04:51:49PM +1000, we have:
  [..]
  | I did suggest this (mv hp,v hp.old,v).
 
  If you guys care about history at all, aka the ability to checkout files
  in the past, you would not suggest nor impement this suggestion.
 

 Does history matter when some people simply cannot checkout a tag set
 because of a mistake that was made?  The balanced response here is that
 the history is not as important as making sure that all developers can
 move forward.  Of course, we do this only in rare circumstances, but
 this is one of them.

I fetch older versions all the time - on xfree86, I did that, for instance
to narrow down the range of dates for a bug introduced into the mouse
driver.  Having a known working version of something lets you cut down on
the effort to isolate a bug.  (Moving forward doesn't use the archives
for anything except an odd backup format).

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Re: CVS Update: xc (branch: trunk)

2003-07-30 Thread Harold L Hunt II
Thomas E. Dickey wrote:

On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, Harold L Hunt II wrote:


Todd T. Fries wrote:


Penned by Daniel Stone on Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 04:51:49PM +1000, we have:
[..]
| I did suggest this (mv hp,v hp.old,v).
If you guys care about history at all, aka the ability to checkout files
in the past, you would not suggest nor impement this suggestion.
Does history matter when some people simply cannot checkout a tag set
because of a mistake that was made?  The balanced response here is that
the history is not as important as making sure that all developers can
move forward.  Of course, we do this only in rare circumstances, but
this is one of them.


I fetch older versions all the time - on xfree86, I did that, for instance
to narrow down the range of dates for a bug introduced into the mouse
driver.  Having a known working version of something lets you cut down on
the effort to isolate a bug.  (Moving forward doesn't use the archives
for anything except an odd backup format).
What's the problem here?

Go look at HEAD!  HEAD checks out just fine and has already had the hp 
file moved out of the way.  Your argument is moot.  The only problem is 
that the decision that was made and applied to HEAD has not been applied 
to xf-4_3-branch.

Harold

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Re: CVS Update: xc (branch: trunk)

2003-07-30 Thread Harold L Hunt II
Egbert,

My main question here is why does HEAD not have hp while xf-4_3-branch 
still does?  I can checkout HEAD, but I cannot check out xf-4_3-branch 
because hp is in the way.

Do the changes that you applied to HEAD need to be applied to 
xf-4_3-branch as well?

Harold

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Re: xf86AddInputHandler

2003-07-30 Thread Egbert Eich
Mathieu Lacage writes:
  hi,
  
  I have spent some time recently to dive into XFree86 source code: I am
  looking into learning more how it works to understand better X
  performance in my application.
  
  One of the things I don't really get is what xf86AddInputHandler is
  supposed to be used for. Despite reading a lot of code and grepping
  multiple times, I found only very few locations using
  xf86AddInputHandler and I could not figure out what it is used for. I'd
  be most grateful for any kind of hint :)
  

Please take a look at:

http://xfree86.linuxwiki.org/xf86_2a_2a_20Functions

Egbert.

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Re: CVS Update: xc (branch: trunk)

2003-07-30 Thread Egbert Eich
Daniel Stone writes:
  
  Yes, but what's the alternate solution? I really don't like the changed-case
  solution, as that sets a precedent of sorts. A note should be made somewhere of
  the moved files.

One could name it hewlett-packard if lowercase is importand.

  
  KDE moves files around all the time. It's all you can do to work around the
  limitations of a fundamentally crippled system.
  

Yes, but we don't. Due to the reason given above. The
uppercase/lowercase issue doesn't justify breaking builds
of checkouts of older versions.

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Re: ATI Imageon 100

2003-07-30 Thread Tim Roberts
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 10:43:42 +0100, Matthew Allum wrote:

on Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 11:04:35AM -0700, Tim Roberts wrote:
 
 Didn't we just see this movie?  What's their incentive to do so?  The people 
 who are selling IMAGEON-based devices want Windows CE, and ATI is happy to 
 help those people with CE drivers.

Also, I think this is a different movie. The embbeded market is
different to the desktop one.  

Yes, but if anything, the situation is even worse in the embedded market.

In the general computing world, the vendor has to worry about both OEM sales 
and retail sales.  In the embedded world, you ONLY have OEM sales.  You cannot 
go out and buy an Imageon 100 add-in card for your Zaurus, so there is even 
less incentive for the chip vendor to provide any public support.  Their 
consumer is the OEM.  If the OEM is happy, ATI is happy.

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Re: xf86AddInputHandler

2003-07-30 Thread Mathieu Lacage
Le mer 30/07/2003  16:36, Egbert Eich a crit :

   One of the things I don't really get is what xf86AddInputHandler is
   supposed to be used for. Despite reading a lot of code and grepping
   multiple times, I found only very few locations using
   xf86AddInputHandler and I could not figure out what it is used for. I'd
   be most grateful for any kind of hint :)
   
 
 Please take a look at:
 
 http://xfree86.linuxwiki.org/xf86_2a_2a_20Functions

Thanks for the pointer. This documentation is indeed useful but I had
already figured what the function does by myself. I am more interested
in what it is expected to be used for: who will call this function ? You
could probably rephrase this to: what is an Input Handler?.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] Xserver]$ grep -r xf86AddInputHandler *
hw/xfree86/common/xf86.h:pointer xf86AddInputHandler(int fd, InputHandlerProc proc, 
pointer data);
hw/xfree86/common/xf86Events.c:xf86AddInputHandler(int fd, InputHandlerProc proc, 
pointer data)
hw/xfree86/drivers/glint/pm2_video.c:   xf86AddInputHandler(xvipc_fd, 
Permedia2ReadInput, NULL);
hw/xfree86/loader/xf86sym.c:   SYMFUNC(xf86AddInputHandler)
hw/xfree86/os-support/bsd/bsd_apm.c:APMihPtr = xf86AddInputHandler(fd, 
xf86HandlePMEvents, NULL);
hw/xfree86/os-support/bsd/bsd_kqueue_apm.c:APMihPtr = xf86AddInputHandler(kq, 
xf86HandlePMEvents, NULL);
hw/xfree86/os-support/linux/lnx_apm.c:  APMihPtr = 
xf86AddInputHandler(fd,xf86HandlePMEvents,NULL);
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Xserver]$


grep does not show any meaningful use of the function: I'd expect way
more people to be interested in adding a fd to the list of fds to watch
for in select. Is there another way to do this ?

Obviously, I missed something rather fundamental about this code because
I feel like I am going nowhere.

regards,
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Re: CVS Update: xc (branch: trunk)

2003-07-30 Thread Harold L Hunt II
Egbert,

 I don't see a way how you can work around this as there seems to
 be no way to exclude files from checkout/update.
 One could create an alias module in the CVS repositry which excludes
 the HP directory. Like

  xc-win -a !xc/programs/xkbcomp/geometry/HP xc

 Then doing a
  cvs checkout xc-win
 may work. However I suspect that a 'cvs update' will still fail as
 this doesn't know about the module concept.
Does this mean I can only get HEAD and new branches from it?  I just 
tried to get the xf-4_3-branch and it has the same problem as the 
xf-4_3_0_1 tag.

I just did this:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/x-devel/4.3
$ export [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/x-devel/4.3
$ export CVS_RSH=ssh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/x-devel/4.3
$ cvs -z3 checkout -r xf-4_3-branch xc  cvs-checkout.log 21
I got:

U xc/programs/xkbcomp/geometry/hp
U xc/programs/xkbcomp/geometry/keytronic
U xc/programs/xkbcomp/geometry/kinesis
U xc/programs/xkbcomp/geometry/macintosh
U xc/programs/xkbcomp/geometry/microsoft
U xc/programs/xkbcomp/geometry/nec
U xc/programs/xkbcomp/geometry/northgate
U xc/programs/xkbcomp/geometry/pc
U xc/programs/xkbcomp/geometry/sony
U xc/programs/xkbcomp/geometry/sun
U xc/programs/xkbcomp/geometry/winbook
cvs [checkout aborted]: could not chdir to 
xc/programs/xkbcomp/geometry/HP: Not a directory

Does that mean that xf-4_3-branch will never work for Cygwin and that 
there is nothing we can do to ever fix this?

If so, that is really a bummer.

Harold

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Re: CVS Update: xc (branch: trunk)

2003-07-30 Thread David Dawes
On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 09:28:10PM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote:
On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 06:14:06AM -0500, Todd T. Fries wrote:
 Penned by Daniel Stone on Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 04:51:49PM +1000, we have:
 [..]
 | I did suggest this (mv hp,v hp.old,v).
 
 If you guys care about history at all, aka the ability to checkout files
 in the past, you would not suggest nor impement this suggestion.

If anyone cared about it, they wouldn't still be using CVS, probably. :P

What a ridiculous comment.  Aside from this little problem, you can
check out any any tagged release of XFree86 over the last 9 years.  That
you can do this is not an accident.  (Versions before this were in a
different respository.)  This problem happened by going beyond CVS's
limits.  CVS works just fine (and predictably) providing its limits are
understood and worked within.  I'm not aware of a sufficiently free
alternative that meets this minimum requirement.

Yes, but what's the alternate solution? I really don't like the changed-case
solution, as that sets a precedent of sorts. A note should be made somewhere of
the moved files.

In this case I think XKB is flexible enough to allow the issue to be
avoided.  I'm going to see if I can change our 'cvs' so that it won't
allow the changed-case solution.

David
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Compaq QVision 1280 (E)

2003-07-30 Thread kevdig
Hi,

There are rumors that the Compaq QVision 1280 cards were
actually based on older Matrox chips (Athena)? Anybody know
for sure?

kevin
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Re: CVS Update: xc (branch: trunk)

2003-07-30 Thread Harold L Hunt II
David Dawes wrote:
On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 01:09:50PM -0400, Harold L Hunt II wrote:

Egbert,


I don't see a way how you can work around this as there seems to
be no way to exclude files from checkout/update.
One could create an alias module in the CVS repositry which excludes
the HP directory. Like
xc-win -a !xc/programs/xkbcomp/geometry/HP xc

Then doing a
cvs checkout xc-win
may work. However I suspect that a 'cvs update' will still fail as
this doesn't know about the module concept.
Does this mean I can only get HEAD and new branches from it?  I just 
tried to get the xf-4_3-branch and it has the same problem as the 
xf-4_3_0_1 tag.

I just did this:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/x-devel/4.3
$ export [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/x-devel/4.3
$ export CVS_RSH=ssh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/x-devel/4.3
$ cvs -z3 checkout -r xf-4_3-branch xc  cvs-checkout.log 21
I got:

U xc/programs/xkbcomp/geometry/hp
U xc/programs/xkbcomp/geometry/keytronic
U xc/programs/xkbcomp/geometry/kinesis
U xc/programs/xkbcomp/geometry/macintosh
U xc/programs/xkbcomp/geometry/microsoft
U xc/programs/xkbcomp/geometry/nec
U xc/programs/xkbcomp/geometry/northgate
U xc/programs/xkbcomp/geometry/pc
U xc/programs/xkbcomp/geometry/sony
U xc/programs/xkbcomp/geometry/sun
U xc/programs/xkbcomp/geometry/winbook
cvs [checkout aborted]: could not chdir to 
xc/programs/xkbcomp/geometry/HP: Not a directory

Does that mean that xf-4_3-branch will never work for Cygwin and that 
there is nothing we can do to ever fix this?

If so, that is really a bummer.


Be a little patient.  This problem will be fixed, and in a way that
minimises the impact on the history loss.
David
David,

Okay.  For now I checked out xf-4_3-branch on a linux machine, tarred 
it, copied it to my Cygwin machine, and untarred it.  This gives me a 
working repository, but ideally we will eventually fix this or at least 
try to prevent it from happening too often in the future.

Thanks to everyone for their help,

Harold

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Re: CVS Update: xc (branch: trunk)

2003-07-30 Thread David Dawes
On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 07:38:30AM +0200, Alexander Pohoyda wrote:
 Egbert Eich wrote:
  CVSROOT:   /home/x-cvs
  Module name:   xc
  Changes by:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   03/06/20 06:15:33
  Log message:
- moving xkbcom/geometry/HP to xkbcom/geometry/hp doesn't seem to be
  possible as CVS doesn't allow a directory to have the same name as
  a deleted file.
  Added files:
xc/programs/xkbcomp/geometry/HP/:
  Imakefile hp omnibook

I have developed the omnibook geometry and I have a new geometry for
the DELL Inspiron laptop. I'm not submitting the latter because I
would not like to see a new directory DELL there.
Why should some company names be capitalized and others not?

Would it be possible to fix this issue on the repository side? I mean
manually delete files `hp' and `dell' and create directories instead?

As has already been discussed, deleting these files from the repository
makes it impossible to check out previous releases in their correct
form.

[I thought I already sent the following, but I haven't seen it come through.]

Since XFree86 is a cross platform project, I think we need to avoid
conflicts that affect platforms with case-insensitive filesystems.
Since CVS doesn't allow directories with the same name as files that
have existed at any time, that means that we can't create directories
like this.

So far, the best solution I can see is to remove the 'HP' directory from
the repository.  That will only impact the history of the last few
snapshots.  I think that's preferable to affecting the history of releases
going back to 3.3.  Unless someone comes up with a better solution,
that's what I'm planning to do.

Is there a reason why the extra geometry descriptions couldn't be added
to the original 'hp' file instead of putting them in separate files in
a subdirectory?  XKB should allow multiple descriptions per file.

David
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XFree86 over Firewire !

2003-07-30 Thread Dwipal Desai
Hi

Is there any way that XFree86 can be used over firewire connection 
between two computers ?

One possible way is to use IP over Firewire, and use XFree86 over that, 
but the IP1394 is not very stable at present. Also, the benchmarks of 
that are very low. I want to use X directly over firewire so that stream 
of around 300 MB/s can be obtained.

If someone can provide me links for this, i can write some code to make 
the pieces work.

Thanks
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Re: xfree86 for the VIA Apollo CLE266

2003-07-30 Thread George Georgalis
On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 11:59:06PM -0400, David Dawes wrote:
On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 09:37:06PM -0400, George Georgalis wrote:

I heard (second hand from via) that xfree86 2.3.99 has drivers
for the CLE266 ( http://www.via.com.tw/en/apollo/cle266.jsp on a
http://www.viavpsd.com/product/epia_m_spec.jsp?motherboardId=81 )

I got the cvs source this morning and it built without errors on my fast
box.  It's been compiling (for a while now) on the hardware I plan to
run it from.  I assume all will be okay.

Here's my next question. After poking around in the source I found
./programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/via/

Lots of good stuff in that directory for making the CLE266 work... only
how do in invoke it and confirm it's being run? It's confusing to me
how a program (eg mplayer) would know to use xfree (and the cle266) for
mpeg-2 decoding and not just do the decoding on its own.


4.3.99.9 has a known build problem (which you're seeing).  Either try
4.3.99.8, or get the latest code via anoncvs.

Humm, a README in that directory could contain note to that effect?
or the changelog could be reissued for that file? Thanks for the fast
responce anyhow.

BTW - how do I tell what version of cvs I got?

// George


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Re: ATI Imageon 100

2003-07-30 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 11:08:40 -0700 "Kendall Bennett" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Bbabbled:
(B
(B Hannes Reinecke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(B 
(B   Also, I think this is a different movie. The embbeded market is
(B   different to the desktop one.  
(B  
(B  Hmm, have you tried asking trolltech?
(B  After all, they did do the QT GUI for the Zaurus and presumably would need
(B  to know how to access the framebuffer, this being embedded. So one would
(B  assume that _some_ docs must have been available ...
(B 
(B TrollTech uses the Linux framebuffer and does not have acceleration 
(B support except for a small number of sample drivers (Mach64, Matrox and 
(B Voodoo3). Hence if Qt works on that device, it just uses a dumb 
(B framebuffer and whatever is exported by the kernel via the framebuffer 
(B interface.
(B
(Bare you sure they haven't written a custom acceleration support module for the
(Bimageon just for sharp? they do own the copyright to their code.. so they never
(Bhave to release it if they don't want to... (this kind of thing is done quite
(Boften in the embedded market - there are custom add-ons and drivers for "a
(B"normal" software package, just to make it work with the vendors esoteric
(Bhardware)
(B
(Bi could definitely imaging this happening...
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Re: ATI Imageon 100

2003-07-30 Thread Kendall Bennett
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  TrollTech uses the Linux framebuffer and does not have acceleration
  support except for a small number of sample drivers (Mach64, Matrox and
  Voodoo3). Hence if Qt works on that device, it just uses a dumb
  framebuffer and whatever is exported by the kernel via the framebuffer
  interface.
 
 are you sure they haven't written a custom acceleration support
 module for the imageon just for sharp? 

Yes, I am sure. We are a development partner of Trolltech's ;-)

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Re: ATI Imageon 100

2003-07-30 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 17:49:21 -0700 "Kendall Bennett" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Bbabbled:
(B
(B Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(B 
(B   TrollTech uses the Linux framebuffer and does not have acceleration
(B   support except for a small number of sample drivers (Mach64, Matrox and
(B   Voodoo3). Hence if Qt works on that device, it just uses a dumb
(B   framebuffer and whatever is exported by the kernel via the framebuffer
(B   interface.
(B  
(B  are you sure they haven't written a custom acceleration support
(B  module for the imageon just for sharp? 
(B 
(B Yes, I am sure. We are a development partner of Trolltech's ;-)
(B
(BAaah then I bow to your superior knowledge of the situation :)
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Re: CVS Update: xc (branch: trunk)

2003-07-30 Thread Alexander Pohoyda
David Dawes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 going back to 3.3.  Unless someone comes up with a better solution,
 that's what I'm planning to do.

OK, it seems to be the best solution in this situation.

I dare to propose another solution, however: to delete the `geometry'
directory and created a new one (named `geometry2` or `geom` or
whatever) which will have companies as lowercased directories.


 Is there a reason why the extra geometry descriptions couldn't be added
 to the original 'hp' file instead of putting them in separate files in
 a subdirectory?  XKB should allow multiple descriptions per file.

Yes, that's right. This is not a limitaton of XKB.
If you have a look into newly created geometry, you'll see that it
already contains 3 sections, which are nested and re-used:
1. for the mouse stick
2. for the base frame and common buttons
3. for US keyboard layout.

Some other geometries (like ibm/thinkpad) have also
4. for national layouts.

I believe that this is a correct way to develop geometries for
related keyboards and I think that it is logical to combine them into
one file.
Knowing all the problems now, I would still prefer this solution.
I have already developed 4 geometry specifications and will continue
to do so. I don't want to create problems, though :-)

I'm open to suggestions.
Thanks!

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