Re: xkb/xlib problem key states

2003-10-22 Thread Peter Bergmann
Sorry. I was a bit too fast on my last reply.

No - This gnome "mouse pointer locate code" does not
work for my issue!

If this option is set in gnome no application will get the
KeyPress event for  Control_L or Control_R anymore !
(Which is not a big problem because Control is a modifier
and the state is set in the KeyPress event of other keys)

Try it with xev :)

When I do a XAllowEvents(.. ReplayKeyboard ..)
in my KeyPress handler  other apps will get the KeyPress events
but  my application will never get a KeyRelease event afterwards
for the grabbed key :(

any ideas ??

> On Tue, 2003-10-21 at 07:56, Peter Bergmann wrote:
> 
> > Can anyone tell me how to query the real state of a specific key
> > (Pressed/Released?) with xlib ?
> > Does xkb offer functions for this issue?
> 
> XKB allows you to switch to "detectable auto-repeat" mode, where you
> get Press/Press/Press/Release rather than 
> Press/Release Press/Release Press/Release.
> 
> You can emulate this on servers without XKB by looking at the timestamps
> for the events. (You can look at the GTK+ sources in gtk+/gdk/x11 /
> to see both how it uses XKB and how it emulates when XKB is missing)
> 
> With that, you should be able to come to something pretty close
> to what you want; reference here is the "locate pointer" code in
> the GNOME control center 
> (gnome-control-center/gnome-settings-daemon/gnome-settings-mouse.c)
> 
> That shows how to use XGrabKey and XAllowEvents to trap a press/release
> of a key without intervening key presses, while otherwise letting
> through the key events to applications.
> 
> Regards,
>   Owen
> 
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[Bug 808] X races on logout with Xinerama enabled

2003-10-22 Thread by way of Greg Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Please do not reply to this email: if you want to comment on the bug, go to
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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-22-10 17:55 ---

> Why the hell is this assigned to me?

I have no idea, that sounds like an internal problem to me.  I just noted a
reproducable problem and reported it.

> And why do you include your config and log
> file instead of attaching it?

I'm sorry, I had no idea that I needed to follow a specific etiquette for
attaching files for a bug to be taken seriously.

> The only way one could help is by knowing where it is
> spinning. Since both your report and the one you point
> to mention the Nvidia binary driver it is quite likely
> the cause of the problem.

I reported that this occurred with the free nv driver also, which is your
 driver yes?  And I was merely pointing to the other thread to establish the
 fact that this issue was reproduceable, as all bug reports should.  So tell
 me how to tell you where it is spinning instead of yelling at me for not
 telling you.

> We do not support this driver.

No shit.  Thanks for the update.

> Please report your problem to Nvidia.

I am not convinced that it is the nvidia driver.

> You also may want to let the Xserver load fonts itself without
> using a font server. This has solved several problems, too.

I'll try it.

I would like to help but your rudeness is incredibly offputting.  It makes me
want to tell you to F*** off and die instead of follow-up with more useful
information.  I guess what they say about the XFree86 developers is nuts on.

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Re: xkb/xlib problem key states

2003-10-22 Thread Peter Bergmann
thx for the great help.

XAllowEvents together with Ivan's  hint (disable autorepeat per key)
works absolute perfectly :))


> XKB allows you to switch to "detectable auto-repeat" mode, where you
> get Press/Press/Press/Release rather than 
> Press/Release Press/Release Press/Release.
> 
> You can emulate this on servers without XKB by looking at the timestamps
> for the events. (You can look at the GTK+ sources in gtk+/gdk/x11 /
> to see both how it uses XKB and how it emulates when XKB is missing)
> 
> With that, you should be able to come to something pretty close
> to what you want; reference here is the "locate pointer" code in
> the GNOME control center 
> (gnome-control-center/gnome-settings-daemon/gnome-settings-mouse.c)
> 
> That shows how to use XGrabKey and XAllowEvents to trap a press/release
> of a key without intervening key presses, while otherwise letting
> through the key events to applications.
> 
> Regards,
>   Owen

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Confessions of a newbie...(kernel modules)

2003-10-22 Thread Raymond Jennings
I withdraw all suggestions about kernel modules, as they have been 
considered.  You guys at XFree86 know a heck of a lot more about programming 
than this newbie, so I'll let the pros worry about it.

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Re: Sis DRI ?

2003-10-22 Thread Eric Anholt
On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 01:07, Måns Rullgård wrote:
> Eric Anholt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> >> Is somebody currently working on the SIS DRI driver/port ?
> >> 
> >> I'm new on the list and not as well informed ;)
> >
> > Yes, I am (though I'm nearly done with the changes I'm making to the
> > 300-series driver unless I can get docs).  It is currently usable in DRI
> > CVS and should work from XFree86 CVS, though I haven't tested there.  Is
> > there a particular question?
> 
> Which SIS chips is this about?  Any chance we'll be seeing DRI on SIS
> 650?

This is for the 300-series, which includes 300, 305, 540, 630, and 730,
as Thomas said.  There are no specs available for the 315-series (which
the 650 is a part of), so there is no real hope for those.  I would love
to work on it if I could get specs for the 3d part.  I have been working
on a 6326/530 driver, but right now I'm waiting for the hardware to test
it on.

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Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?

2003-10-22 Thread Harold L Hunt II
Egbert Eich wrote:

Marc Aurele La France writes:
 > 
 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] is an ML anyone can subscribe to.  I am, and, I
 > believe, so is Egbert.
 > 

No, not currently. I usually go to the web interface and 
look at the open bugs, process new ones that can be handled 
quickly, or try to assign them to an expert on the specific 
area.

There are a lot more areas than we have experts - in these
cases I try to work on the ticket myself. This, and the
low quality of some of the submissions, consumes a 
considerable amount of time.
Good point.  I am the defacto "expert" for Cygwin/XFree86, considering 
that I have been contributing to the project for 3 years now and leading 
the project for going on 2 years.

You might think that I should therefore be able to commit my own patches 
that were Cygwin-specific, but that is not the case.

I do not think that Egbert should have to be burdened with committing 
Cygwin-specific patches.

Can I please finally be given CVS commit access with the understanding 
that I am a moron and that I will only commit things that are 
Cygwin-specific, with all other non-Cygwin-specific patches sent via 
bugs.xfree86.org?  At the first sign of my veering off course you could 
feel free to revoke my access.  I think I have already proven that I am 
dedicated to the XFree86 project and that I am knowledgible enough to 
know where the line is between patches for my own platform and patches 
that may break the build on other platforms.

Thanks,

Harold

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Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?

2003-10-22 Thread Egbert Eich
Harold L Hunt II writes:
 > So, who wants to handle a high volume of patches specific to Cygwin 
 > after the 4.4.0 branch?  Any volunteers?  I would appreciate someone 
 > that can commit to a 24 to 48 hour turnaround on committing submitted 
 > patches that don't touch other platforms.

I usually try to do this. However I can only do so when I have 
high speed internet access. This isn't the case when I'm traveling
or home with a cold.

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Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?

2003-10-22 Thread Egbert Eich
Harold L Hunt II writes:
 > What happens when I assign patches in the "Cygwin Xserver" project to 
 > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"?  Does an email go out to everyone with CVS 
 > commit access?  Is there a single person that receives this email? 
 > Should I be assigning patches to a specific person to ensure timely commits?
 > 
 > I realize that a feature freeze is in place now... this is a general 
 > questions for "normal" times so that I know how to assign my bugs to 
 > when I want them to get committed.
 > 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] is a mailing list where interested persons
can subscribe to. I don't know how though. It serves as a general
'sink' for everything that cannot be sent to a specific maintainer.

If you have a patch that you would like to see committed you can
assign it to me. I have to apologize that I was gone last week
and in bed with a cold this week so there is a rather big backlog
of patches that I was planning to commit but haven't.

I will review uncommitted patches and commit them as soon as I feel
better.

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Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?

2003-10-22 Thread Egbert Eich
Marc Aurele La France writes:
 > 
 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] is an ML anyone can subscribe to.  I am, and, I
 > believe, so is Egbert.
 > 

No, not currently. I usually go to the web interface and 
look at the open bugs, process new ones that can be handled 
quickly, or try to assign them to an expert on the specific 
area.

There are a lot more areas than we have experts - in these
cases I try to work on the ticket myself. This, and the
low quality of some of the submissions, consumes a 
considerable amount of time.

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US Stock Market: TRHL - Last Pick From .45 to 1.18...Rigoberto

2003-10-22 Thread Vince Benson
UPSIDE INTERNATIONAL - Searching Out Stocks with Big Upside Potential...that have gone 
unnoticed until now.


Our last pick SUQU went from 0.45 to 1.18


Our New Pick  is True Health, Inc. - TRHL - with revenues up by more than 412%

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sales of 2.171 billion for fiscal 2003. Mr. Wylie also held the same position at 
Countrywide Assured PLC, which included the oversight of 350 million pounds sterling 
(580 million dollars). Just prior to this announcement, Mr. Wylie was the Director of 
Town & Country Housing where he was responsible for the development of the company's 
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in the provision of locem radiographers and nurses.



MD, NURSE SHORTAGES REACHING CRISIS LEVELS

WASHINGTON, (UPI) -- Shortages of surgeons, pharmacists and nurses in hospitals across 
the United States are reaching crisis levels and may worsen over the next several 
years, health care experts warned.  The nursing shortage -- more than 126,000 
positions currently remain unfilled -- has become so severe it is endangering the 
lives of patients and is a primary reason for overcrowding in emergency departments 
and cancellation of surgeries, according to a report by an Experts Roundtable panel 
convened by the Joint Commission on the Accreditation of Healthcare Organizations.  
The Society for Thoracic Surgeons recently warned that a shortage of heart surgeons 
looms within a few years and a survey of hospitals found pharmacists, X-ray 
technicians and therapists are leaving at such an alarming rate it already is 
impacting the quality of care patients receive.



JOHNSON C0-SPONSORS LEGISLATION TO ADDRESS NURSE SHORTAGES

January 24, 2003 Washington, DC- U.S. Senator Tim Johnson (D-SD) recently co-sponsored 
the Nurse Reinvestment Act to address areas with critical nurse shortages in an effort 
to provide more opportunities to recruit and retain quality nurses. "Our national 
health care system has many problems that need to be addressed," Johnson said. "At the 
top of that is the severe shortage of nurses.



COLLEGE OF FAMILY PHYSICIANS OF CANADA

Past decisions with respect to health care reform have been made without complete or 
accurate information, and this has led to critical problems in the system such as 
doctor shortages and waiting lists.



TEXAS PUBLIC POLICY FOUNDATION
CHECK WITH YOUR DOCTOR FIRST - SEPTEMBER 03, 2003
TEXANS CAN CURE STATE'S MEDICAL CRISIS

Getting a second opinion is always a good idea, particularly when you have a serious 
medical problem. Today, Texans are suffering from a serious lack of medical care. The 
American Medical Association says the physician shortage has reached crisis 
proportions in Texas and lives are in peril.



TRUE HEALTH'S SUBSIDIARY - WESTMERIA

True Health through its wholly owned subsidiary, Westmeria for 20 years has developed 
a reputation for getting medical personnel in where they are needed fast. Now with 
demand for these professionals escalating at an exponential rate, the demand for 
Westmeria is growing fast. Westmeria is now ready to place thousands of doctors and 
nurses to help solve the worldwide crisis. This will equate to many millions in added 
revenues for True Health Check out the latest financial report.



FINANCIALS

According to the latest financials, revenues are up by more than 412%



SEPT 2003-QUARTERLY REPORT

Revenue for the three months ended July 31, 2003 went up by 412.8%, when compared to 
revenue for the three months ended July31, 2002.  The equipment rentals and sales 
segment's revenue went up by 69.8%, in the three months ended July 31, 2003, compared 
to the three months ended July 31, 2002. Th

US Stock Market: TRHL - Last Pick From .45 to 1.18...Kirk

2003-10-22 Thread Bernice Bowers
UPSIDE INTERNATIONAL - Searching Out Stocks with Big Upside Potential...that have gone 
unnoticed until now.


Our last pick SUQU went from 0.45 to 1.18


Our New Pick  is True Health, Inc. - TRHL - with revenues up by more than 412%

True Health, Inc.: TRHL
Industry: Healthcare
12-month range: 0.55-3.90 - SUQU went back to its previous high of 1.18, we believe 
TRHL can too - to its previous high of 3.90


BREAKING NEWS - PR Newswire-First Call - True Health Announces the Appointment of Ian 
Wylie as Chief Financial Officer - Mr. Wylie has held the position of Corporate 
Finance Manager at Del Monte Food Intl.  Del Monte Foods Co. (NYSE: DLM) posted net 
sales of 2.171 billion for fiscal 2003. Mr. Wylie also held the same position at 
Countrywide Assured PLC, which included the oversight of 350 million pounds sterling 
(580 million dollars). Just prior to this announcement, Mr. Wylie was the Director of 
Town & Country Housing where he was responsible for the development of the company's 
growth strategies and overseeing an asset portfolio of 400 million pounds sterling 
(665 million dollars).


We are now seeing indicators with TRHL, the 20 - 50 Day MACD Oscillator is now 
indicating an upward trend, 20 Day Bollinger Bands have moved into a upward indication.



THE PROBLEM

The US and international healthcare industry are currently in a major crisis. There is 
a huge shortage of skilled healthcare specialists, doctors and nurses, and since 9/11, 
many qualified professionals are finding it impossible to immigrate into countries 
desperately needing medical personnel. 



THE SOLUTION

True Health Incorporated is a full service specialist, medical equipment and medical 
professional supplier to the healthcare industry. Its primary clients are Great 
Britain's National Health Service (NHS), BUPA International and the private Nursing 
Home Industry. The Company also delivers recruitment services to the NHS; specializing 
in the provision of locem radiographers and nurses.



MD, NURSE SHORTAGES REACHING CRISIS LEVELS

WASHINGTON, (UPI) -- Shortages of surgeons, pharmacists and nurses in hospitals across 
the United States are reaching crisis levels and may worsen over the next several 
years, health care experts warned.  The nursing shortage -- more than 126,000 
positions currently remain unfilled -- has become so severe it is endangering the 
lives of patients and is a primary reason for overcrowding in emergency departments 
and cancellation of surgeries, according to a report by an Experts Roundtable panel 
convened by the Joint Commission on the Accreditation of Healthcare Organizations.  
The Society for Thoracic Surgeons recently warned that a shortage of heart surgeons 
looms within a few years and a survey of hospitals found pharmacists, X-ray 
technicians and therapists are leaving at such an alarming rate it already is 
impacting the quality of care patients receive.



JOHNSON C0-SPONSORS LEGISLATION TO ADDRESS NURSE SHORTAGES

January 24, 2003 Washington, DC- U.S. Senator Tim Johnson (D-SD) recently co-sponsored 
the Nurse Reinvestment Act to address areas with critical nurse shortages in an effort 
to provide more opportunities to recruit and retain quality nurses. "Our national 
health care system has many problems that need to be addressed," Johnson said. "At the 
top of that is the severe shortage of nurses.



COLLEGE OF FAMILY PHYSICIANS OF CANADA

Past decisions with respect to health care reform have been made without complete or 
accurate information, and this has led to critical problems in the system such as 
doctor shortages and waiting lists.



TEXAS PUBLIC POLICY FOUNDATION
CHECK WITH YOUR DOCTOR FIRST - SEPTEMBER 03, 2003
TEXANS CAN CURE STATE'S MEDICAL CRISIS

Getting a second opinion is always a good idea, particularly when you have a serious 
medical problem. Today, Texans are suffering from a serious lack of medical care. The 
American Medical Association says the physician shortage has reached crisis 
proportions in Texas and lives are in peril.



TRUE HEALTH'S SUBSIDIARY - WESTMERIA

True Health through its wholly owned subsidiary, Westmeria for 20 years has developed 
a reputation for getting medical personnel in where they are needed fast. Now with 
demand for these professionals escalating at an exponential rate, the demand for 
Westmeria is growing fast. Westmeria is now ready to place thousands of doctors and 
nurses to help solve the worldwide crisis. This will equate to many millions in added 
revenues for True Health Check out the latest financial report.



FINANCIALS

According to the latest financials, revenues are up by more than 412%



SEPT 2003-QUARTERLY REPORT

Revenue for the three months ended July 31, 2003 went up by 412.8%, when compared to 
revenue for the three months ended July31, 2002.  The equipment rentals and sales 
segment's revenue went up by 69.8%, in the three months ended July 31, 2003, compared 
to the three months ended July 31, 2002. Th

Re: xkb/xlib problem key states

2003-10-22 Thread Owen Taylor
On Tue, 2003-10-21 at 07:56, Peter Bergmann wrote:

> Can anyone tell me how to query the real state of a specific key
> (Pressed/Released?) with xlib ?
> Does xkb offer functions for this issue?

XKB allows you to switch to "detectable auto-repeat" mode, where you
get Press/Press/Press/Release rather than 
Press/Release Press/Release Press/Release.

You can emulate this on servers without XKB by looking at the timestamps
for the events. (You can look at the GTK+ sources in gtk+/gdk/x11 /
to see both how it uses XKB and how it emulates when XKB is missing)

With that, you should be able to come to something pretty close
to what you want; reference here is the "locate pointer" code in
the GNOME control center 
(gnome-control-center/gnome-settings-daemon/gnome-settings-mouse.c)

That shows how to use XGrabKey and XAllowEvents to trap a press/release
of a key without intervening key presses, while otherwise letting
through the key events to applications.

Regards,
Owen


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Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?

2003-10-22 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003, Harold L Hunt II wrote:

>> Learn something new every day :-).  Looks like the subscriber list
>> is publicly viewable (and very small).
>
>Where?  I see nothing here:
>
>http://xfree86.org/lists.html
>
>
>I also get nothing when I try to forge a link to the list:
>
>http://www.xfree86.org/mailman/listinfo/developer/
>
>
>Is there a different mailing list server for bugs.xfree86.org?

http://bugs.xfree86.org/mailman/roster/developer


Kindof interesting that XFree86.org has finally switched to 
bugzilla, and none of the developers get bug report emails sent 
to them except Michel and Marc...

Fortunately, Matthieu, Egbert, Alan and others at least use the 
web UI and take care of the majority of reports that come in, and 
do so very well, since the number of open reports is quite small 
compared to the entire size of the database.

In that light, I'd consider bugzilla quite a success so far, even 
if it doesn't even exist to some developers.  ;o)


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Re: xkb/xlib problem key states

2003-10-22 Thread Ivan Pascal
> I'd like to add a special hotkey feature to the icewm window manager:
> If the user holds down a (function) key for a configurable 
> amount of seconds a program will be executed.
> 
> Now my problem is how to query the key states in xlib.
> 
> My first attempt was using XGrabKey and calculating the time 
> between KeyPress and KeyRelease events but this did not work
> because of two problems:
> . Autorepeat must not be set (bad thing)

You can disable autorepeat per key.  See man XChangeKeyboardControl

> Can anyone tell me how to query the real state of a specific key
> (Pressed/Released?) with xlib ?

man XQueryKeymap

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Re: Sis DRI ?

2003-10-22 Thread Thomas Winischhofer
Måns Rullgård wrote:
Eric Anholt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


Is somebody currently working on the SIS DRI driver/port ?

I'm new on the list and not as well informed ;)
Yes, I am (though I'm nearly done with the changes I'm making to the
300-series driver unless I can get docs).  It is currently usable in DRI
CVS and should work from XFree86 CVS, though I haven't tested there.  Is
there a particular question?


Which SIS chips is this about?  
300 series (300/305, 540, 630, 730).

> Any chance we'll be seeing DRI on SIS 650?

As before.

Thomas



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Re: Re: Sis DRI ?

2003-10-22 Thread ompaa
Nice! If you want somebody to test the code ... I can ...
I've a Sis 630 ... should I test the latest CVS code with
linux-2.6.0-test8 ?
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Re: Kernel Module? On second thought...

2003-10-22 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 01:51:00PM -0400, Mike A. Harris wrote:
> But for a 2D only driver, DRI based 2D acceleration using DMA is 
> more likely to be wasted effort than anything useful IMHO.  
> That's probably why nobody has done it yet other than in the 
> Radeon driver where it has a real good use.

Well, it depends, modern cards might well not have other accel model
than DMA, as does the i810 if i understood well, but as does the Wildcat
VP from 3Dlabs too. Sure you could always not use the DMA engine and use
onboard memory as ring buffers, but this is less than optimal, unless
you have a system where neither agpgart nor pcigart works. But the DRI
doesn't support these cases anyway.

Friendly,

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Re: Sis DRI ?

2003-10-22 Thread Måns Rullgård
Eric Anholt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> Is somebody currently working on the SIS DRI driver/port ?
>> 
>> I'm new on the list and not as well informed ;)
>
> Yes, I am (though I'm nearly done with the changes I'm making to the
> 300-series driver unless I can get docs).  It is currently usable in DRI
> CVS and should work from XFree86 CVS, though I haven't tested there.  Is
> there a particular question?

Which SIS chips is this about?  Any chance we'll be seeing DRI on SIS
650?

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