More X servers on one virtual area

2004-02-17 Thread Jan Damborsky
Hello,

I would like to ask, if following problem
has been solved by somebody:
We have four single board computers with
graphic accelerators. We have running
Linux+X server on each of computer successfully.
Each of computer is connected to one LCD panel.
For now, we would like to use these four
LCD screens like one big virtual area
with one mouse cursor.
I think Xinerama is right solution for
more graphic cards connected to one
computer, but we have separate computers.
Could you please suggest any solution or
way to solve this problem ?
   Thank you in advance, Jan Damborsk

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Re: More X servers on one virtual area

2004-02-17 Thread Brad Hards
On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 19:04 pm, Jan Damborsky wrote:
 Each of computer is connected to one LCD panel.
 For now, we would like to use these four
 LCD screens like one big virtual area
 with one mouse cursor.
X2X - http://freshmeat.net/projects/x2x/

Brad


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Re: More X servers on one virtual area

2004-02-17 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Tue, 2004-02-17 at 09:04, Jan Damborsky wrote:
 
 We have four single board computers with
 graphic accelerators. We have running
 Linux+X server on each of computer successfully.
 Each of computer is connected to one LCD panel.
 For now, we would like to use these four
 LCD screens like one big virtual area
 with one mouse cursor.

Check out DMX (http://dmx.sourceforge.net/).


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Re: radeon dri lockup

2004-02-17 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Tue, 2004-02-17 at 02:14, Jonathan Isom wrote:
 Section Device
 Option Accel   # [bool]
 Option  AGPMode 2
 Option EnableDepthMoves  True# [bool]

Have you tried without these two?

 Option  AGPFastWrite False
 Option  HWCursor True
 Identifier  Card0
 Driver  radeon
 VendorName  ATI
 BoardName   Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE]
 BusID   PCI:1:0:0
 VideoRam65536

Is this correct? The VideoRam directive should only be used to override
an incorrectly determined amount of video RAM, it's potentially harmful
otherwise.

 EndSection


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Re: More X servers on one virtual area

2004-02-17 Thread Jan Damborsky
Michel Dnzer wrote:
On Tue, 2004-02-17 at 09:04, Jan Damborsky wrote:

We have four single board computers with
graphic accelerators. We have running
Linux+X server on each of computer successfully.
Each of computer is connected to one LCD panel.
For now, we would like to use these four
LCD screens like one big virtual area
with one mouse cursor.


Check out DMX (http://dmx.sourceforge.net/).


It seems DMX is exactly what we need :).
Thank you very much.
 Sincerelly, Jan Damborsky
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Question about nplanes and ColormapEntries in VisualRec

2004-02-17 Thread Ian Romanick
I'm making some changes to the server-side GLX in the DRI tree.  For 
part of my changes I want to eliminate the need for libGLcore to have 
access to a VisualRec (programs/Xserver/include/scrnintstr.h, line 68). 
 There are only two fields from that structure that are accessed by 
libGLcore, and I believe those values can be otherwise derrived, but I 
want to be sure.

First, a comment in the structure says that nplanes is log2 
(ColormapEntries).  Does that mean that (1U v-nplanes) == 
v-ColormapEntries is always true?

Second, for TrueColor and DirectColor visuals, is it safe to assume 
nplanes is the sum of the red, green, and blue bits?

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Fake Video Bios. How?

2004-02-17 Thread Guido Landra
Hi all,

I want use a VTBook card (www.villagetronic.com) with XFree86 4.3.0.
This card is based on Trident XP2 graphics chip.
Note that:
- this graphics chip is currently unsupported by XFree86. I use the
vesa driver;
- graphics card is based on Cardbus (32bit PCMCIA);
- card does not include video BIOS onboard. Bios must be loaded after
hotplug event.
- I have got the binary image of BIOS (VBE 2.0 compliant)
I tried some XF86Config Options such as:
Option BiosLocation address
Set the location of the BIOS for the Int10 module. One may select a BIOS
of another card for posting or the legacy V_BIOS range located at
0xc or an alternative address (BUS_ISA). This is only useful under
very special circumstances and should be used with extreme care.
Option BiosBase address
but they are not the solution.
I tried to map /dev/mem and put a copy of video BIOS in V_BIOS (0xC) 
before running X, but this way was not successful.
How soft boot secondary cards if they have not a video BIOS?

Do you know some utility to load bios in a way ready to be used by XFree86?
Any idea?
Thanks in advance,
Guido


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Re: Question about nplanes and ColormapEntries in VisualRec

2004-02-17 Thread Keith Packard

Around 9 o'clock on Feb 17, Ian Romanick wrote:

 First, a comment in the structure says that nplanes is log2 
 (ColormapEntries).  Does that mean that (1U v-nplanes) == 
 v-ColormapEntries is always true?

no.  ColormapEntries on a Direct/True visual is

 1  max(nred,ngreen,nblue).

 Second, for TrueColor and DirectColor visuals, is it safe to assume 
 nplanes is the sum of the red, green, and blue bits?

no.  There may be extra bits which have no defined meaning in the core 
protocol which are used by extensions.

-keith




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Re: Question about nplanes and ColormapEntries in VisualRec

2004-02-17 Thread Ian Romanick
Keith Packard wrote:
Around 9 o'clock on Feb 17, Ian Romanick wrote:

First, a comment in the structure says that nplanes is log2 
(ColormapEntries).  Does that mean that (1U v-nplanes) == 
v-ColormapEntries is always true?
no.  ColormapEntries on a Direct/True visual is

	 1  max(nred,ngreen,nblue).
Okay, then that comment is a little misleading for those cases, but I 
can live with it.

Second, for TrueColor and DirectColor visuals, is it safe to assume 
nplanes is the sum of the red, green, and blue bits?
no.  There may be extra bits which have no defined meaning in the core 
protocol which are used by extensions.
The GLX extension usually adds some bits for alpha for it's visuals (and 
those are the only visuals I care about in this case).  However, even in 
the case where there's 32 bits total (including the alpha channel), 
nplanes is still only 24.  So, let me phrase my original question a 
different way.  Since the GLX extension sets nplanes in its added 
visuals, can it make whatever assumptions about nplanes it wants? :)

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Re: Modifications to linuxPci.c to optimize PCI scan

2004-02-17 Thread Tim Roberts
Pier Paolo Glave wrote:

I'm trying to optimize an embedded system based on
ARM9 CPU, which is running a cross-compiled version of
XFree86 4.3.0 on linux 2.4.18.
I noticed that XFree86, at start-up, makes a complete
scan of 256 possible PCI buses, looking for devices,
without checking (e.g. from /proc/bus/pci) how many
buses are actually present on the system.
I thought that in my system, where I have one bus
only, this could lead to a high startup time, so I
tried to make a patch (reported below) that detects
the actual number of buses by parsing
/proc/bus/pci/devices.
The results were not amazing, because the saved time
is really little.
 

Right.  The gain is very, very small, and it comes at the cost of an 
additional dependency on the presence and exact format of 
/proc/bus/pci/devices.  /proc/bus was not introduced until the 2.2 
kernels, so your change would prevent XFree86 from running on 2.0.x 
kernels.  I don't know whether there are other issue with 2.0.x kernels 
or not, but since the cost of a full PCI bus search is so small, it 
seems counterproductive to make this change.

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Re: XFree86 4.4.0 RC3

2004-02-17 Thread David Dawes
On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 10:45:11PM -0500, David Dawes wrote:
The third release candidate for XFree86 4.4.0 (aka 4.3.99.903) has
been tagged.  Source and patches can be found at
http://www.xfree86.org/develsnaps/.  The download area at
ftp://ftp.xfree86.org/pub/XFree86/snapshots/4.3.99.903/ will be
populated over the next few days.  The source is there now, and
binaries will follow.

Binaries for a range of popular platforms are now available.

The latest documentation for this release can be found at
http://www.xfree86.org/~dawes/pre-4.4/.  Send any corrections, etc
here.  In particular, check the Release Notes, and send in details of
new stuff that isn't mentioned there, and errors/omissions in the Credits
section.  If you have contributed to XFree86 4.4, make sure your name is
listed!

Also check the LICENSE document
http://www.xfree86.org/~dawes/pre-4.4/LICENSE.html.  There is a lot
of FUD being circulated about the licensing, so check here for the facts.
Also check out the FSF's Free Software definition and their list of
licenses, as well as the OSI's Open Source Definition.  There are links
to these sites from our LICENSE document.  In particular, follow up with
the BSD licences (original and revised), the FreeType License (FTL),
the SGI Free Software License (which applies to GLX and CID), and the
Apache 1.1 licence.

Don't rely on the FUD being circulated by people who can barely hide
their prejudice.  Go straight to the definitive sources on licensing
issues, namely the FSF and the OSI, and come to your own conclusions.

David
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Re: radeon dri lockup

2004-02-17 Thread Jonathan Isom
On 2004-02-17 04:38:31 -0600 Michel Dänzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tue, 2004-02-17 at 02:14, Jonathan Isom wrote:
 Section Device
  Option Accel   # [bool]
  Option  AGPMode 2
  Option EnableDepthMoves  True# [bool]
 
 Have you tried without these two?
doesn't help

  Option  AGPFastWrite False
  Option  HWCursor True
  Identifier  Card0
  Driver  radeon
  VendorName  ATI
  BoardName   Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE]
  BusID   PCI:1:0:0
  VideoRam65536
 
 Is this correct? The VideoRam directive should only be used to override
 an incorrectly determined amount of video RAM, it's potentially harmful
 otherwise.

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Re: XFree86 4.4.0 RC3

2004-02-17 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Tue, 17 Feb 2004, David Dawes wrote:

Also check the LICENSE document
http://www.xfree86.org/~dawes/pre-4.4/LICENSE.html.  There is a lot
of FUD being circulated about the licensing, so check here for the facts.
Also check out the FSF's Free Software definition and their list of
licenses, as well as the OSI's Open Source Definition.  There are links
to these sites from our LICENSE document.  In particular, follow up with
the BSD licences (original and revised), the FreeType License (FTL),
the SGI Free Software License (which applies to GLX and CID), and the
Apache 1.1 licence.

Don't rely on the FUD being circulated by people who can barely hide
their prejudice.  Go straight to the definitive sources on licensing
issues, namely the FSF and the OSI, and come to your own conclusions.

So I must totally agree with you David.  People should indeed 
go to the definitive sources on open source licensing issues, the 
FSF and the OSI.

Interestingly enough, neither the XFree86 license version 1.0, 
nor the new 1.1 license are listed as OSI approved open source 
licenses:

http://www.opensource.org/licenses/index.php

Going to the Free Software Foundations site to see their list of 
approved free software licenses, the XFree86 license version 1.0 
and 1.1 are also noteably missing:

http://www.fsf.org/licenses/license-list.html

The FSF does have the following:

The X11 license.
This is a simple, permissive non-copyleft free software license, 
compatible with the GNU GPL. XFree86 uses the same license. This 
is sometimes called the MIT license, but that term is 
misleading since MIT has used many licenses for software.

However that statement is inaccurate, as the parts of the 
XFree86 source code which are copyright by XFree86.org, are 
under either the XFree86 license version 1.0, or XFree86 license 
version 1.1.

The simple conclusion, is that XFree86 is not free software, as
defined by the Free Software Foundation nor open source software
as defined by the Open Source Initiative, however there are a few 
inaccuracies present on both of these websites which need to be 
fixed, in order to not mislead people into beleiving XFree86 is 
MIT/X11 licensed.

Of course, others should visit both websites and draw their own 
conclusions also, which will help to cut down on the FUD going 
around.


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