Re: Emulation of Alt+Numpad+Digits behavior

2004-08-05 Thread Jörg Henne
Robert Currey wrote:
I do think that this goal is achievable, because the Alt-Numpad
functionality is so limited: all it does is to generate the same symbols
without regard to any codepage, keyboard mapping etc. And that's what
makes it useful im some cases (see below). And exactly because the
functionality is not supposed to be flexible at all, I think that it
doesn't necessarily conflict with the X paradigm.
   

To play nice, this should only need xkb file interpretation changes
(changing the way the code works may get messy).
I'm not that hip on how XKB maintains state, but for Alt-gr type combos it
is at least close.
 

Unfortunately it is not possible to implement this functionality solely 
based on xkb configuration. It would definitely need some modification 
of xkb and I'm hesitating to go the xkb route because of the expected 
messieness and the fact that the functionality does not fit very well 
with the concept of xkb. Xkb deals with a limited set of states (levels, 
groups) whereas  Alt-Numpad needs a large number of states (all possible 
three-digit combinations).

ummm ... the  to be transparent is true for windows, but obviously not for
unix or mac or ...
This really smells like an input method ...so your app that needs to play
with readers for Smartcards or keyboard-wedge style barcode readers would
need to support the input method.
 

The problem here is that it will not be possible to change those 
applications: one application are sessions running in a 
terminal-emulation for IBM mainframes which just expect the data to be 
scanned or read from the smartcard to be typed into existing input fields.

Joerg Henne
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Re: [I18n] Re: Emulation of Alt+Numpad+Digits behavior

2004-08-05 Thread Danilo Segan
Yesterday at 19:35, Jrg Henne wrote:

 Markus Kuhn wrote:

 If you do something in this area, please implement the ISO 14755 hex

input method, and not the old MS-Windows one. (Or implement both
together, if you really need MS-Windows compatibility here. They don't
interfere with each other, because the ISO 14755 technique uses
Ctrl-Shift to activate the hex-entry mode, while MS-Windows uses Alt.)
  
 For reasons stated in my previous message I really need the
 DOS/MS-Windows method. However, if there is a viable solution for
 either of the methods, implementing at least the sections 5.1 and 5.2
 (basic and keyboard symbol entry) from ISO 14755 should be fairly
 straight-forward. Therefore I'll consider implementing both of them,
 but first I need a viable solution anyway.

Gtk+ 2 already implements Ctrl-Shift stuff.  Just try it in any GtkTextEntry.

Cheers,
Danilo

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The license

2004-08-05 Thread Ivan Yosifov
Hello all,

well , time has passed , and just *everybody* is dropping XFree in favour of 
X.org and all of this thanks to the new license. Perhaps it is time for a 
fresh look at the situation. I really don't think this was the effect you 
tried to achieve , or are you just happy with this ?

Though not strictly technical this is a development issue , so posting to 
devel.

Ivan Yosifov.
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Re: [I18n] Re: Emulation of Alt+Numpad+Digits behavior

2004-08-05 Thread Markus Kuhn
Danilo Segan wrote on 2004-08-05 10:51 UTC:
 Yesterday at 19:35, Jörg Henne wrote:
 
  Markus Kuhn wrote:
 
  If you do something in this area, please implement the ISO 14755 hex
 
 input method, and not the old MS-Windows one. (Or implement both
 together, if you really need MS-Windows compatibility here. They don't
 interfere with each other, because the ISO 14755 technique uses
 Ctrl-Shift to activate the hex-entry mode, while MS-Windows uses Alt.)
   
  For reasons stated in my previous message I really need the
  DOS/MS-Windows method. However, if there is a viable solution for
  either of the methods, implementing at least the sections 5.1 and 5.2
  (basic and keyboard symbol entry) from ISO 14755 should be fairly
  straight-forward. Therefore I'll consider implementing both of them,
  but first I need a viable solution anyway.
 
 Gtk+ 2 already implements Ctrl-Shift stuff.  Just try it in any GtkTextEntry.

That's for my taste one level to high in the library stack. It would be
nicer to have it somewhere in the X11 library instead, along with the
other input method mechanics, such that all applications benefit from
it, not just those using Gtk+.

Markus

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Re: Driver (i810) ignores modeline directives in Config File

2004-08-05 Thread Christian Zietz
Hi,

PLATTNER Christoph schrieb:

 But starting the X server, I could find the line
 
 (II) I810(0): Monitor0: Using hsync range of 31.50-70.00 kHz
 (II) I810(0): Monitor0: Using vrefresh range of 50.00-100.00 Hz
 (II) I810(0): Not using mode 1152x864 (no mode of this name)
 [...]
 Are there changes in Xfree, that only the built in can be
 used ?

That's because the i810-driver has to use the video BIOS to set a video
mode (i.e. resolution and color depth) because there is no publicly
available documentation on how to set modes bypassing the BIOS. So only
video modes known to the BIOS can be set.
For the i855-chipset there is a utility called 855resolution to add
custom video modes to the video BIOS. Maybe it'll work with i865, too:
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/apoirier/

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Re: Colors

2004-08-05 Thread Tim Roberts
Andrzej Popielewicz wrote:
Hi,
I have ported XFree 4.4  to an old Unix-like OS Coherent 4.2.10.
Rock stable but I have some problems with colors , for S3Virge 1MB. It 
is set to 8 bit defaultdepth in  configfile.
But clients see only 4 bit  root_depth, and LoadPalette loads only 16 
colors.

Some suggestions ? I would expect 256 colors.
Screenshots at http://www.staff.amu.edu.pl/~apopiele/embed.html , in 
the bottom part of page.

There are way more than 16 colors in those screen shots.
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Re: Colors

2004-08-05 Thread Andrzej Popielewicz
Uytkownik Tim Roberts napisa:
Andrzej Popielewicz wrote:
Hi,
I have ported XFree 4.4  to an old Unix-like OS Coherent 4.2.10.
Rock stable but I have some problems with colors , for S3Virge 1MB. 
It is set to 8 bit defaultdepth in  configfile.
But clients see only 4 bit  root_depth, and LoadPalette loads only 16 
colors.

Some suggestions ? I would expect 256 colors.
Screenshots at http://www.staff.amu.edu.pl/~apopiele/embed.html , in 
the bottom part of page.

There are way more than 16 colors in those screen shots.
In the meantime I am also aware of it.
I hope with better card and more RAM will be still better.
Thanks for the response anyway.
Andrzej
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Remote control and keyboard events

2004-08-05 Thread Shaun Jackman
I have a remote control (RM-050) that came with my TV capture card
(FlyVideo 2000). The Linux 2.6.6 driver (saa7134) generates input
events. Some of these input events do not generate X keycodes. Below
is a table of the Button's name, the input event it generates, and the
X keycode it generates. The keycode's marked xxx are not generated.
The dead keys all have the largest event codes. It looks like event
codes large than 255 (perhaps) do not work. How can I fix the dead
keys on my remote control?

Air/CATV386 xxx
Video   393 xxx
Audio   392 xxx
Power   116 222
AV Source   176 136
Full Screen 372 xxx
Stereo  192 249
Mute113 160
Vol+115 176
Vol-114 174
Recall  129 133
Ch+ 402 xxx
Ch- 403 xxx

Please cc me in your reply. Thanks,
Shaun


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Re: Driver (i810) ignores modeline directives in Config File

2004-08-05 Thread Erwann Thoraval
 05 8 2004 22:55PLATTNER Christoph :
[...]
 But starting the X server, I could find the line

 (II) I810(0): Monitor0: Using hsync range of 31.50-70.00 kHz
 (II) I810(0): Monitor0: Using vrefresh range of 50.00-100.00 Hz
 (II) I810(0): Not using mode 1152x864 (no mode of this name)
 (II) I810(0): Increasing the scanline pitch to allow tiling mode (1280
 - 2048).
 (--) I810(0): Virtual size is 1280x1024 (pitch 2048)
 (**) I810(0):  Built-in mode 1280x1024
 (**) I810(0):  Built-in mode 1024x768
 (**) I810(0):  Built-in mode 800x600
 (**) I810(0):  Built-in mode 640x480


 One thing I liked on XFree was to use every resolution (even
 non-standard line 760x490 with a selfmade modeline.
 Are there changes in Xfree, that only the built in can be
 used ?

Hello,

I had a problem with my laptop (a DELL 510m with a 1400x1050 screen and the 
i855 chip). It seems that the i810 XFree driver can *only* use the video 
resolutions which are listed into the BIOS. 

In my case, there was not the 1400x1050 mode (due to a bug of Dell BIOS), so 
I could only use the 1280x1024 mode.

I think you could have the same problem :

(II) I810(0): Not using mode 1152x864 (no mode of this name)

From the i810 man page :

The driver makes use of the video BIOS to program video modes for the 830M 
and later. This limits the video modes that can be used to those provided by 
the video BIOS, and to those that will fit into the amount of video memory 
that the video BIOS is aware of.

With my laptop, I solved this problem using the 855resolution patch from 
Alain Poirier (many thanks to him) which add a mode in the BIOS list, so 
XFree is aware of it :

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/apoirier/

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Re: Driver (i810) ignores modeline directives in Config File

2004-08-05 Thread Peter Gale
On Fri, 2004-08-06 at 10:10, Erwann Thoraval wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I had a problem with my laptop (a DELL 510m with a 1400x1050 screen and the 
 i855 chip). It seems that the i810 XFree driver can *only* use the video 
 resolutions which are listed into the BIOS. 

I also have a Medion laptop with 1280x800... and Alain Poirer's
855resolution patch fixed it perfectly...

Peter Gale

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