Re: Help on creating a Window Manager

2003-09-02 Thread Mark Lehrer
On Tue, 2 Sep 2003 13:53:07 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Heather Stern) wrote:

 Those would include aewm (which I think had the same intention - a
 pure ICCCM rendition), ratpoison (avoiding fat libraries and

I missed the original message so perhaps this was already mentioned, but
I tried one called wm2 which is almost the most primitive window
manager possible - you can resize  close windows and bring up a menu to
launch Xterm.  Changing anything requires hacking the source, there are no
configurable features.  You can apt-get it on Debian.

Mark
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Re: Help on creating a Window Manager

2003-09-01 Thread Pedro Teixeira
Hey Peter,

I had your same wishes a while ago and the same proble struck me: the lack of 
of information about it.

One good thing is that all window managers are open source, so what I did was 
to download all the source I could and investigate how they work. I suggest 
you the same.

Look for the small ones, with the few features and try understand how they 
work. Getting a copy of the X Window API might also help.

I'm sorry I can't really help much, but the truth is that I dropped this 
little project of mine and if I have any more information I will send to you.

best rgds,
Pedro Teixeira

On Sunday 31 August 2003 8:59 pm, Peter Poulsen wrote:
 hi

 I'm playing around with xlib, and is trying to make a window manager
 (just because I can ;-)). But the problem is that I need a little more
 information. Is there some good resources anybody know of? Also, is
 there a mailing list that is more suited for questions related to the
 use of xlib (as far as I understand this mailing list is conserned with
 the development of xfree, rather than the use of xlib)?

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Re: Help on creating a Window Manager

2003-09-01 Thread Kevin Brosius
Havoc Pennington wrote:
 
 
 On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 08:59:39PM +0200, Peter Poulsen wrote:
 
  I'm playing around with xlib, and is trying to make a window manager
  (just because I can ;-)). But the problem is that I need a little more
  information. Is there some good resources anybody know of? Also, is
  there a mailing list that is more suited for questions related to the
  use of xlib (as far as I understand this mailing list is conserned with
  the development of xfree, rather than the use of xlib)?
 
 The main resources are the ICCCM, the EWMH, and the source code of
 other window managers. twm is small and simple to learn from, though
 doesn't support the newer EWMH spec.
 
 Don't try to read the WM chapter in the Nye book, it's mostly wrong.
 

You'll find http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/ helpful, it has copies
of most of these standards.

-- 
Kevin
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Help on creating a Window Manager

2003-08-31 Thread Peter Poulsen
hi

I'm playing around with xlib, and is trying to make a window manager
(just because I can ;-)). But the problem is that I need a little more
information. Is there some good resources anybody know of? Also, is
there a mailing list that is more suited for questions related to the
use of xlib (as far as I understand this mailing list is conserned with
the development of xfree, rather than the use of xlib)?
-- 
Yours 
Peter Poulsen

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Re: Help on creating a Window Manager

2003-08-31 Thread Havoc Pennington
On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 08:59:39PM +0200, Peter Poulsen wrote:
 
 I'm playing around with xlib, and is trying to make a window manager
 (just because I can ;-)). But the problem is that I need a little more
 information. Is there some good resources anybody know of? Also, is
 there a mailing list that is more suited for questions related to the
 use of xlib (as far as I understand this mailing list is conserned with
 the development of xfree, rather than the use of xlib)?

The main resources are the ICCCM, the EWMH, and the source code of
other window managers. twm is small and simple to learn from, though
doesn't support the newer EWMH spec.

Don't try to read the WM chapter in the Nye book, it's mostly wrong.

Havoc
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