RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Thank you Mitel!

2003-12-19 Thread Bearne, Paul
very well said !!

ditto

Paul Bearne

-Original Message-
From: Wayne Bollinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 19 December 2003 07:57
To:
Subject: [e-smith-devinfo] Thank you Mitel!


Christmas Greetings Everyone,

Before this list shuts down, I want to express my gratitude to all of
the Mitel employees who have worked so hard over the years to produce a
simply amazing product.  

I am one of the many people who benefit from SME Server, without being
able to purchase a ServiceLink subscription.  Hopefully this will change
someday.  For now, in lieu of $, I hope this story will at least give
the Mitel folks a warm feeling of job well done.

I use SME Server in volunteer mode to support a K-12 school that
operates on an extremely tight technology budget.  Three years ago the
school was in the dark ages, technology-wise.  I remember people running
up and down the halls, yelling Can I use the phone line now?  I need to
check email!.  There was no network.  They shuffled huge stacks of
paper.  They ran diskettes around to print and share files.  I wanted to
help, but was afraid the nightmare would only grow worse if a Windows
server entered the scene. ;-)  As a Linux fan, I discovered references
to something called e-smith while searching the internet.

Then came e-smith 4.1, installed on a donated 500MHz Celeron PC.  I
begged the cable company to bury a new cable run for free (they did).  A
cable modem combined with some Cat5 runs and e-smith began to
revolutionize the way the school administration communicated with each
other, the staff, and parents. 

Every year the school has acquired more donated computers through the
IBM K-12 matching grants program.  We still don't have a computer for
every teacher, and we are still using equipment like AST laptops running
Windows 95 with 16 Meg of memory - I kid you not.  There have been many
frustrations and hardware failures along the way, but the one thing I
can always count on is e-smith (and our tape drive).  e-smith is the
glue that holds everything together, and allows us to stretch every
dollar to the max for the benefit of the kids.  

At first I was horrified to read that Mitel was turning the SME Server
developer release over to the community.  I actually decided that I
needed to resign as Technology Coordinator for the school. :)  Of
course, we have all witnessed a very carefully coordinated, professional
handover to contribs.org.  I don't know why I expected anything less. 
(By the way, many thanks to the contribs.org team as well...)

To wrap this up:  next year the school is moving 500 students from three
separate rented buildings (three e-smith installs) into a new building,
where everyone can sit together under one roof.  Being able to use
reliable, affordable technology has been critical in making this a
reality.  Although there are certain people pushing for a move to a
Windows server - parents who have trouble understanding all the services
provided by the e-smith platform - the principal knows a good thing when
he sees it, and e-smith will continue to form the foundation of our
technology program.  I wouldn't use anything else.  When e-smith goes, I
go.

THANK YOU Charlie, Gordon, Dan, Rich, Mike, Peter, and everyone else on
the team.  You guys are a class act. 

Merry Christmas and God Bless,

-Wayne Bollinger

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] FormMagick Panels

2003-12-15 Thread Bearne, Paul
silly Question is anybody talking to http://free-eos.org/  about joining
efforts?

-Original Message-
From: Charlie Brady [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 13 December 2003 23:27
To: Greg Zartman
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] FormMagick Panels



On Thu, 11 Dec 2003, Charlie Brady wrote:

 On Thu, 11 Dec 2003, Greg Zartman wrote:
 
...
  I'll work something up.
  
  I've played around some with creating server-manager panels based 
  entirely on HTML::Template and had mixed feelings about it.
 
 That sounds like a large chunk to bite off.

If you are game to try again, have a look at CGI::FormBuilder as a 
starting point. I don't see an I18n there, but it does have a high level 
view of forms, and automates field validations. [I've only scanned the 
doco, I've never used it].

  For the most part, no one outside of Mitel understands FM.
 
 I don't know that anyone outside you has really tried.

We're both wrong. Some folk over at http://free-eos.org/ have built a
series of FM based panels for their add-ons. (AFAICT, Free-EOS is a fork
of SME 5.5, with base language changed to French, some rebranding, and a
number of add-ons integrated).

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A: Because we read from top to bottom, left to right.
Q: Why should i start my reply below the quoted text?


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[e-smith-devinfo] A quick survey

2003-12-09 Thread Bearne, Paul
What/where do you use your server for?

Mine is in my loft and I use it Host a photo collection ( too big for my
paid web servers ) and as the pop / imap / firewall server 

I don't but would like use for NT domain control.
I would like to upgrade the Horde version to include Kluz ( conic server ).
and will install vpn as a version for 6 is available ( so I can connect from
work ).

Paul

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