RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Advise...

2001-08-23 Thread Jelmer Kuperus

because generally for high trafic sites etc.. you want to be fiddeling with
the apache settings add harddrives etc.. 
When you want a lot of flexibility the management console is an obstacle
rather than an asset.



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Sent: donderdag 23 augustus 2001 3:08
To: Jelmer
Cc: Alexander Wallace; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Advise...


On Thu, Aug 23, 2001 at 02:36:44AM +0200, Jelmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 e-smith is just a customid redhat so it probably could be, but i wouldn't
 recommendend it  as it is specificly targetted to small and medium sized
 enterprises..  You would probably be better off with standard redhat,suse
 slackware whatever...

Why do it the hard way? 

The performance of e-smith will be identical to the performance of
RedHat (since we use the same kernel, libraries, etc.), and we provide
a management layer on top.

Packages which install on the corresponding RedHat release will install
directly on e-smith and you can manually configure them if you wish,
or add templates and actions to have it done automatically.

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this appropriate?

2001-08-23 Thread Jelmer Kuperus

Ever heard of the phrase 'The customer is always right' :P

Telling customers that they're clueless hmm what a novell ideam, got to pass
that on to the marketting dep.


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To: Kirrily Robert
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Subject: [e-smith-devinfo] Is this appropriate?



Hi Kirrily

Kirrily Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 Ken, I've never seen you say a single useful or positive thing on this
 list.  The only time you say anything is when you want to bash us for
 some licensing issue which, on every occasion, you have misunderstood
 and continued to wilfully misunderstand even after we explain it to you
 in small words.  Please try to get a clue.

I just wanted to ask if you feel that this sort of comment is approciate on
a public list? 

Firstly I think it is unprofessional! 
You should just e-mail him privately with these comments!

I am not here to cause an argument... just a suggestion!

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Starting Services

2001-08-22 Thread Jelmer Kuperus

/home/e-smith/configuration

it's just a textfile

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And this database would be where???



Thankyou,

Jason Green,
Lotus Notes Admin/Developer.
Canberra Australia.


 

Gordon Rowell

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th.com  cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Subject: Re: [e-smith-devinfo]
Starting Services  
22/08/01 06:16

PM

 

 





On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 05:53:12PM +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 To all,
  I have created scripts etc to get my Domino service to start but I
cannot
 find out where to make it start the server automagically...
 I have S99Domino in the /etc/rc.d/rc3.d directory but it does not start
 it...

As Karl has answered, e-smith uses run-level seven - i.e. rc7.d

 I also need to stop the sendmail/qmail and httpd services from starting
but
 seem to be unable to do so...

 Which directory do I do this from?

Set the appropriate entries to 'status|disabled' in the configuration
database.

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[e-smith-devinfo] RE: e-smith manager limitations (was Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Squidguard GUI)

2001-08-22 Thread Jelmer Kuperus

An interestingg suggestion

Would there be people interested in helping create an e-smith 'powerpack' ?



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Sent: woensdag 22 augustus 2001 10:29
To: Jelmer Kuperus
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Subject: e-smith manager limitations (was Re: [e-smith-devinfo]
Squidguard GUI)


On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 02:53:56PM +0200, Jelmer Kuperus
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 i think that goes for a lot more things in e-smith , i find the management
 console is really kind of limmiting
 [...]

Limiting user visible options is a primary e-smith design goal. We
don't expect users to manage Samba, FTP, Apache, etc. - they are done
consistently by the manager.

Most users (as opposed to power users) want a limited set of choices
so they know what should be entered at each screen. The server is designed
for small businesses with no IT staff. They typically don't know, nor want
to know, anything about Linux permissions, users, groups, etc. Most of the
GUI admin tools expect you to know something about the underlying system.

The manager is also designed to be extensible. It's an open framework
so you can add as many complex panels as you wish. So, there's nothing to
stop you adding a panel with hundreds of widgets on it if you want the
power options.

So, if you find it limiting, why not write a panel to ease those 
limitations? We'll host the contributed packages on our site.

Thanks,

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Starting Services

2001-08-22 Thread Jelmer Kuperus

Why is this better than editting the file and raising a console save event ?

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On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 10:42:48AM +0200, Jelmer Kuperus
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 /home/e-smith/configuration
 
 it's just a textfile

True, though you should make changes with the db program rather than
editing the file.

For example,

/sbin/e-smith/db configuration setprop smtpd status disabled

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Squidguard GUI

2001-08-21 Thread Jelmer Kuperus

i think that goes for a lot more things in e-smith , i find the management
console is really kind of limmiting

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Sent: dinsdag 21 augustus 2001 14:40
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [e-smith-devinfo] Squidguard GUI



Although I think squidguard is a cool add-on to e-smith... I think from an 
administrative point of view it does require a 'GUI'. We install squidguard 
into a lot of schools - the teachers aren't really techies but they need to 
be able to monitor/update etc the squidguard settings

I had a look on the web and all I could find was this add-on to webmin...

http://www.niemueller.de/webmin/modules/squidguard/

Has anybody found/developed etc a GUI for squidgaurd?

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Named server not responding

2001-08-20 Thread Jelmer Kuperus

You will get this if

1. named is not running.
2. named did not create the control socket due to syntax errors in
   named.conf.  Check your logs.
3. you have told named (via named.conf) to use a different socket.
   ndc -c /new/path/to/control/socket status


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Sent: maandag 20 augustus 2001 17:22
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: [e-smith-devinfo] Named server not responding


Has anyone else seen this. It happened amongst my flurry of upgrades this
weekend. Now I cannot resolve any DNS names.

# ping www.e-smith.com
ping: unknown host www.e-smith.com

# service named status
ndc: error: ctl_client: evConnect(fd 3): Connection refused
ndc: error: cannot connect to command channel (/var/run/ndc)


Thanks,

Justin 



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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] [DRAFT] phpLogViewer - open for discussion

2001-08-17 Thread Jelmer Kuperus

You dont have to use mod_php
php files can actually be used and run as cgi script , so suid can be set

But charlie is right that e-smith basicly uses a perl infrastruction so for
clearity sake you'd be better of using perl , 
actually i also believe perl to be supperior for this task, as perl has many
function for pattern matching / parsing and stuff wich could be really
usefull in log analysis.

Also i think there are plenty of log analysis tools readily available ,
webmin for one has one intgerated , and a quick search of freashmeat.net or
sourceforge.net will probably turn up a lot more


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Sent: vrijdag 17 augustus 2001 3:06
To: Darrell May
Cc: e-smith-devinfo
Subject: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] [DRAFT] phpLogViewer - open for
discussion



On Thu, 16 Aug 2001, Darrell May wrote:

 This is very much a first attempt but I'm working on creating php scripts
 to easily view server logs via the web.

I would have thought that PHP was a challenging choice for a task such as
this. There are security implications. Most important log files are not
readable by the web server process, they are only readable by root. PHP
(usually) runs inside the process of the web server, and therefore runs
with the web server's privileges, i.e. is unable to read the log files.

The e-smith manager scripts are perl scripts which do not run in the
context of the web server, but as separate processes. perl scripts can be
set up to be setuid, and run with the privileges of the owner of the
script, not whoever runs the script. They can therefore run with roots
privileges, and can therefore do things such as restart daemons, write
protected configuration files, read log files, etc. perl has an important
feature which allow this risky undertaking to be done with relative
safety. It will automatically tell you when you are doing something risky
with data that someone else provided, which therefore shouldn't be
trusted. This is called taint checking.

 In final deployment this could be built into the e-smith manager, be
 placed in a separate secured alias directory, ibay, whatever suits
 your individual wants.

If you look at the e-smith manager scripts, you'll see that there is some
perl infrastructure there (in the esmith::cgi perl module) to provide a
standard look and feel for manager scripts. That's yet one more reason for
trying perl. That's not to say that you couldn't use PHP.

 Comments are encouraged.  For any php expert how about taking a look at
 the initial script and giving me your thoughts on the best way to print a
 limited view, say last 100 lines.  I'd like to give the option of viewing
 the complete file or last 100 lines only.

The usual way to do this is to have a CGI variable to indicate which
behaviour you want from the script. You then set the value for the CGI
variable in the request URL. You can then either have two links for the
two behaviours, or have a default behaviour, with a link for the other
behaviour displayed when selected. For example, show the last 100 lines by
default, and include a link which will request display of the whole file.

It's rather ironic that you posted this today. This afternoon I was
discussing with one of the other developers here the value of having a
general log file viewer panel in the e-smith manager. It would come up
with a pick list of the log files, and an entry which allowed you to
select a pattern match to apply, and a submit button. The manager would
then display all of the chosen log file, or only lines which matched the
pattern, if you supplied one. Now, if only I had a few more hours each
day...

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] tomcat on e-smith

2001-08-14 Thread Jelmer Kuperus

hi,

You need to add the LoadModule
JkMount and stuff to the e-smith template for httpd.conf , otherwise
everytime you use the management console your changes will be overwritten.,
make sure you use the ajpv13 connector to be able to use ssl correctly ,
possibly you need to add the ssl classes to you $TOMCAT_HOME/lib
these arent included with tomcat , due to some restrictions and have to be
added manually, i am not sure if this is just fora standalone install or if
they are also needed for use with apache aswell, anyways , it wont hurt so i
just added them

You raise an interesting point with ibays
Actually i never set up tomcat for use with ibays , i just created a servlet
context for the /home/e-smith/files/primary/http dir and manually added the
WEB-INF etc.. directories to it
and denying access to it.

Yesterday however i tried to set this up but i can't seem to manage , it
seems ibays are created as aliasses and for some reason , *.jsp and /servlet
do not get redirected to the connector eventhough i entered the 
for aliasses , for the webroot this works fine..
I am far from an apache expert , so possibly someone could shed some light
on this
the mimetype seems to be set to someting strange as it prompts for download

grtz

-Original Message-
From: Alexander Wallace [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: donderdag 9 augustus 2001 15:53
To: Jelmer Kuperus
Cc: Orville Carter; e-smith-devinfo
Subject: RE: [e-smith-devinfo] tomcat on e-smith


I have it, sort of working, but I'm very unsure about lot's of things

What I did was downloaded and installed the tarball for tomcat and the
mod_jk.so (copied it to /etc/httpd/modules) and placed tomcat in
/usr/tomcat

Then modifyed the /usr/tomcat/mod_jk.conf-auto (renamed it first) to point
to where the mod_jk.so is and modifyed the /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf to
include the path to the mod_jk.conf i changed ( know I need to modify the
template but still unsure on the writh way to do that...

I Start Tomcat and restart apache and it seems to work ok, but I don't
know if this is the right way to do it, and now I need to be able to use
java from ibay-s and all that...

So, whenever you have the time, the How-To will be really appreciated...

Thanks again!

On Thu, 9 Aug 2001, Jelmer Kuperus wrote:

 i was half way writing the howto when my new hd crashed on me :(
 i am returning it this weekend and will probably finish it then

 -Original Message-
 From: Orville Carter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: woensdag 8 augustus 2001 20:52
 To: Alexander Wallace
 Cc: e-smith-devinfo
 Subject: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] tomcat on e-smith


 Alexander,

 My partner worked on the tomcat installation. Unfortunately, he is getting
 married
 in two weeks, and did not have the time to finish the documentation.

 We are on hold at this time!

 Sorry

 Orville Carter

 - Original Message -
 From: Alexander Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Orville Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: e-smith-devinfo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 3:35 PM
 Subject: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] tomcat on e-smith


  Were you ever able to write down the steps to get tomcat to work on
  e-smith? I don't mean to presure you at all, I don't want you to think
  that I lost interest on those steps... Thanks!
 
  On Fri, 27 Jul 2001 18:45:27 Orville Carter wrote:
   We are working on all the steps. Just a few more hours - I hope.
  
   We were in a hurry, so no documentation was done. Now we are trying to
   retrace our steps. Dont Panic!
  
   Orville - NYC
   - Original Message -
   From: Alexander Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: Orville Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Cc: e-smith-devinfo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 12:05 PM
   Subject: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] tomcat on e-smith
  
  
Thanks for the responce... I'm a little bit confused yet on the
 process of
installing tomcat in e-smith... I noticed they have an RPM and a
 tarball
in the tomcat's website, I downloaded the rpm and installed, along
 with
the module for aapache, but I dont know it that worked yet. It all
installed fine, but I cant access port 8080 that way...
   
If i use the tarball and start tomcat as stand alone I can...
   
Which method do you recomend???
   
Thanks!
   
On Thu, 26 Jul 2001, Orville Carter wrote:
   
 Yes! We have installed tomcat (and JKD) on our e-smith 4.1.X
 servers.
 Its a fairly straight forward process. The only one drawback - The
 jdk,
 tomcat files
 are not included in automatic backup and restore on e-smith. I
 reckoned
   one
 of the software
 guru's, in these here parts could solve that with little effort
;-).

 If you like I can prepare a simple document, (with a bit of help
to
   solve
 the backup inclusion of jdk files)
 to explain the steps.

 Orville - NYC

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] multiple external interfaces - routing

2001-08-10 Thread Jelmer Kuperus

http://www.gated.org/

enjoy :) (actually your in for a headache , goodluck)

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From: Tim Litwiller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: vrijdag 10 augustus 2001 5:26
To: E-Smith devinfo list
Subject: [e-smith-devinfo] multiple external interfaces - routing


we are going to have a backup dsl installed tomorrow - someone
talked my boss into needing backup for the T1 that we already
use.


So tomorrow it is getting installed and I am supposed to figure
out
a way if the T1 or the DSL fails that there is no interuption.


with mydomain.com I can point our A records at both ip addresses
and
it will round robin to the first available on incoming traffic.
But
how do I load balance or at least gracefully fail over the the
outgoing
traffic?

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] tomcat on e-smith

2001-08-09 Thread Jelmer Kuperus

i was half way writing the howto when my new hd crashed on me :(
i am returning it this weekend and will probably finish it then

-Original Message-
From: Orville Carter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: woensdag 8 augustus 2001 20:52
To: Alexander Wallace
Cc: e-smith-devinfo
Subject: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] tomcat on e-smith


Alexander,

My partner worked on the tomcat installation. Unfortunately, he is getting
married
in two weeks, and did not have the time to finish the documentation.

We are on hold at this time!

Sorry

Orville Carter

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From: Alexander Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Orville Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: e-smith-devinfo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] tomcat on e-smith


 Were you ever able to write down the steps to get tomcat to work on
 e-smith? I don't mean to presure you at all, I don't want you to think
 that I lost interest on those steps... Thanks!

 On Fri, 27 Jul 2001 18:45:27 Orville Carter wrote:
  We are working on all the steps. Just a few more hours - I hope.
 
  We were in a hurry, so no documentation was done. Now we are trying to
  retrace our steps. Dont Panic!
 
  Orville - NYC
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  From: Alexander Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Orville Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: e-smith-devinfo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 12:05 PM
  Subject: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] tomcat on e-smith
 
 
   Thanks for the responce... I'm a little bit confused yet on the
process of
   installing tomcat in e-smith... I noticed they have an RPM and a
tarball
   in the tomcat's website, I downloaded the rpm and installed, along
with
   the module for aapache, but I dont know it that worked yet. It all
   installed fine, but I cant access port 8080 that way...
  
   If i use the tarball and start tomcat as stand alone I can...
  
   Which method do you recomend???
  
   Thanks!
  
   On Thu, 26 Jul 2001, Orville Carter wrote:
  
Yes! We have installed tomcat (and JKD) on our e-smith 4.1.X
servers.
Its a fairly straight forward process. The only one drawback - The
jdk,
tomcat files
are not included in automatic backup and restore on e-smith. I
reckoned
  one
of the software
guru's, in these here parts could solve that with little effort ;-).
   
If you like I can prepare a simple document, (with a bit of help to
  solve
the backup inclusion of jdk files)
to explain the steps.
   
Orville - NYC
   
- Original Message -
From: Alexander Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: e-smith-devinfo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 12:47 PM
Subject: [e-smith-devinfo] tomcat on e-smith
   
   
 Hi there! I hope this is the right way to post to the list I'm
new
 here...

  I was
 wondring if anyone has installed tomcat on e-smith and got it to
work
  with
 apache... If so, could you share info on how you did it??

 Thanks!



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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Code Red Is back

2001-08-09 Thread Jelmer Kuperus

just a thought..

how about registering *.ida to do a http forward to 

http://www.somenastyXXXsite.com/5centsPerClick?refid=jelmer

:p 
that way at least some good can come from that worm , you just have to see
the oppertunities :)

-Original Message-
From: Blake Heinemann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: donderdag 9 augustus 2001 6:28
To: Rob Hillis
Cc: Development Info for E-smith (E-mail)
Subject: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Code Red Is back


One of the boxes I admin which is on roadrunner cable has had over 1000 hits
since 8/5.  The kscable.com network is becoming saturated.

bh


Rob Hillis wrote:

 On Sunday 05 August 2001 23:06, adminpop wrote:

   A Varient of code red has returned. 05 08 01
  grep default.ida /var/log/httpd/access* | wc -l
  408 Today! I can see the cable modem lights going!

 Gee... I wonder what I've done right/wrong...

 [root@e-smith /root]# grep default.ida /var/log/httpd/access* | wc -l
 869

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] tomcat on e-smith

2001-08-07 Thread Jelmer Kuperus

I am reinstalling e-smith on a new hd nonight, i'll see what i can do
possibly write a small howto
outlining the precise steps

-Original Message-
From: Alexander Wallace [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: maandag 6 augustus 2001 21:35
To: Orville Carter
Cc: e-smith-devinfo
Subject: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] tomcat on e-smith


Were you ever able to write down the steps to get tomcat to work on 
e-smith? I don't mean to presure you at all, I don't want you to think 
that I lost interest on those steps... Thanks!

On Fri, 27 Jul 2001 18:45:27 Orville Carter wrote:
 We are working on all the steps. Just a few more hours - I hope.
 
 We were in a hurry, so no documentation was done. Now we are trying to
 retrace our steps. Dont Panic!
 
 Orville - NYC
 - Original Message -
 From: Alexander Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Orville Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: e-smith-devinfo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 12:05 PM
 Subject: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] tomcat on e-smith
 
 
  Thanks for the responce... I'm a little bit confused yet on the process
of
  installing tomcat in e-smith... I noticed they have an RPM and a tarball
  in the tomcat's website, I downloaded the rpm and installed, along with
  the module for aapache, but I dont know it that worked yet. It all
  installed fine, but I cant access port 8080 that way...
 
  If i use the tarball and start tomcat as stand alone I can...
 
  Which method do you recomend???
 
  Thanks!
 
  On Thu, 26 Jul 2001, Orville Carter wrote:
 
   Yes! We have installed tomcat (and JKD) on our e-smith 4.1.X servers.
   Its a fairly straight forward process. The only one drawback - The
jdk,
   tomcat files
   are not included in automatic backup and restore on e-smith. I
reckoned
 one
   of the software
   guru's, in these here parts could solve that with little effort ;-).
  
   If you like I can prepare a simple document, (with a bit of help to
 solve
   the backup inclusion of jdk files)
   to explain the steps.
  
   Orville - NYC
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Alexander Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: e-smith-devinfo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 12:47 PM
   Subject: [e-smith-devinfo] tomcat on e-smith
  
  
Hi there! I hope this is the right way to post to the list I'm
new
here...
   
 I was
wondring if anyone has installed tomcat on e-smith and got it to
work
 with
apache... If so, could you share info on how you did it??
   
Thanks!
   
   
   
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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] FrontPage and CodeRed?

2001-08-07 Thread Jelmer Kuperus

yeah and if you foward my mail to 10 people in your adressbook nokia will
give you a FREE CELLPHONE!! :)

ok sorry bout that

But seriously e-smith is positively absolutely not at risc , the reason for
this is that code red uses a known buffer overflow in iis.

QUOTE
The vulnerability lies within the code that allows a Web server to interact
with Microsoft Indexing Service functionality. The vulnerable Indexing
Service ISAPI filter is installed by default on all versions of IIS. The
problem lies in the fact that the .ida (Indexing Service) ISAPI filter does
not perform proper bounds checking on user inputted buffers and therefore
is susceptible to a buffer overflow attack
/QUOTE

Isapi filters arent inalled with fpe
And even if it where

it will only exploit Windows 2000 web servers because it overwrites EIP with
a jmp that is only correct under Windows 2000.

since i imagine most of you arent familiar with pc assembly in lamens terms
this means , basicly code red interups the normal processing of the
webserver in order to execute its own code , it as uses one of windows own
functions for that. Under NT4.0 etc... the location for that function is
different so, the process will simply crash instead of allowing the worm to
infect the system and
spread.





-Original Message-
From: Charlie Brady [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: dinsdag 7 augustus 2001 19:06
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [e-smith-devinfo] FrontPage and CodeRed?



On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, somebody posted to the members mailing list of Sage-au
(www.sage-au.org.au):

 Umm, if you loaded Frontpage and the web extensions onto your home PC
guess
 what, you're running a cut-down version of IIS - and its just as
susceptible to
 CodeRed and variants as are the full blown IIS boxes. I'm still wondering
why
 no-one has mentioned this little fact yet.

I have no other information to confirm or deny this rumour, however, I
thought it prudent to pass it on.

[It shouldn't take long for someone to work out whether there is a CGI
called default.ida.]

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] codered idea

2001-08-06 Thread Jelmer Kuperus

you can do the same using php or jsp,
However you can wonder about the effectiveness. If the admin doesn't even
bother to install basic patches..

By the way i heard that debian uses a system that automaticly installs
hotfixes.. 
Might be nice to see a simmilar system incorporated into e-smith. 
That way next time apache has some buffer overflow we'll be save from all 11
year old 31337 haxors
(not that apache has had many security issues)

-Original Message-
From: Rob Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: maandag 6 augustus 2001 8:49
To: e-smith Devinfo
Subject: [e-smith-devinfo] codered idea


here's an idea I found from a link on slashdot, wonder if its worth trying
to patch something like this into essg.

Rob.



#!/usr/bin/perl -w
#
# Script :  default.ida
#
# Version : 0.1
#
# Author :  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
#
# Usage :   copy this to your root website directory
#   make sure .ida is known as a cgi script in httpd.conf
#
# Description :
#   This program will telnet to the mail port on the target ip
and
#   send a mail to the administrator.
#
#   This program is free software; you can redistribute it
and/or
#   modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License
as
#   published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2
of
#   the License, or (at your option) any later version.
#
# Disclaimer :
#   This is a little script I wrote to directly telnet to
infected
#   boxes and notify their owner.
#
#   Consider this script beta software.
#
#   Use this script on your own responsibility.
#   I am not responsible for any damages the use of this script
may
#   cause.
#

use IO::Socket;
use IO::Select;

#($remote_host,$remote_port) = @ARGV;

print Content-type: text/plain\n\n;

$remote_host = $ENV{'REMOTE_ADDR'};
$remote_port = 25;

$socket = IO::Socket::INET-new(PeerAddr = $remote_host,
PeerPort = $remote_port,
Proto= tcp,
Type = SOCK_STREAM)
or die Couldn't connect to $remote_host:$remote_port : $@\n;

$awnser = $socket;
print $awnser;

print $socket helo system\r\n;
print helo system\r\n;

$awnser = $socket;
print $awnser;

if ($awnser =~ /^250/) {
}
else {
exit;
}

print $socket mail from:i_am_using_an_unpatched_iis\@microsoft.com\r\n;
print mail from:i_am_using_an_unpatched_iis\@microsoft.com\r\n;

$awnser = $socket;
print $awnser;

if ($awnser =~ /^250/) {
}
else {
exit;
}

print $socket rcpt to:administrator\r\n;
print rcpt to:administrator\r\n;

$awnser = $socket;
print $awnser;

if ($awnser =~ /^250/) {
}
else {
exit;
}

print $socket data\r\n;
print data\r\n;

$awnser = $socket;
print $awnser;

if ($awnser =~ /^354/) {
}
else {
exit;
}

print $socket Subject: URGENT - your system is infected by the codered worm
!\r\n;
print $socket Please install the Code Red patch.  Your system is currently
infected with the worm.\r\n;
print $socket You can download the patch here :\r\n;
print $socket
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/TechNet/itsoluti
ons/security/topics/codealrt.asp\r\n;
print $socket .\r\n;

$awnser = $socket;
print $awnser;

close($socket);


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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] E-Smith Database

2001-08-01 Thread Jelmer Kuperus

you'll probably want to take a loot at the template for httpd.conf
there should be a number of virtual hosts there 

by deleting the entries for the external ip you disallow access to the
website
this'll work for sure but i am not sure this is the essg :) way to do it.



-Original Message-
From: Lee Irving [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: woensdag 1 augustus 2001 9:55
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [e-smith-devinfo] E-Smith Database


Could anyone point me in the right direction of documentation on how
E-smith stores its configuration for its internal and external
web-sites. I would like to be able to switch off externally facing web
sites as they are not required.

Thanks in advance

Lee Irving

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Release 1 of squidguard for ESSG

2001-08-01 Thread Jelmer Kuperus

this essg thing is really catching on :)

-Original Message-
From: Trevor Ouellette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: woensdag 1 augustus 2001 7:26
To: DEVELOPMENT info
Subject: [e-smith-devinfo] Release 1 of squidguard for ESSG


How to Install the gc-guard system -- Any beta testers??

Log in as root to your ESSG server.

mkdir /squidguard
cd /squidguard
wget -nv http://www.greencomputer.com/gc-guard-1.tar
tar -xf gc-guard-1.tar
./create-squidguard

That's it!  The settings can be found under Security, Content Filtering.
There is link to a help at the bottom of that page.

It updates it's blacklist once a week, administrators can update/remove
domains, expressions and URL's from a GUI in the manager, admins can also
allow specific IP's to have Full access to the Internet instead of the
default filtered access.

Give it a go... GRIN

Thanks to Darrell May, JL (for the sudo stuff), and of course Lorenzo!  I
hope I didn't forget anybody!

Trev.


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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] ipchains

2001-07-20 Thread Jelmer Kuperus

read a book, go to google and type in ipchains howto, buy support

in what flavour would you like that answer ?

NO SPOONFEEDING



-Original Message-
From: Nonohome [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: vrijdag 20 juli 2001 15:46
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [e-smith-devinfo] ipchains


Hi,

New in this mailing list, i would like my webserver to be reachable from 
the internet.
The problem is that I own a special modem, which uses port 80, and so 
prevent my server from being reachable on this port.

So i decided to change my default apache port to 555. It is now fully 
working from intranet, but still unreachable from outside.
(although the corresponding ibays allows anyone from internet)

Could anyone tell me what to do in this case. I think there's something 
wrong with IPCHAINS, but it is an unknown language for me.

Thanks in advance,

PS : used hardware: E-smith 4.1.2 server, Modem ADSL icon Diva 2430SE
 SSH works fine, so it isn't a modem security problem, which make a 
NAT default towards Linux server (except on port 80 !!!)

Nono
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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] ipchains

2001-07-20 Thread Jelmer Kuperus

ffs this must be one of the most tolerant developement mailinglist around..

-Original Message-
From: Matthieu Perreira Da Silva [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: vrijdag 20 juli 2001 15:53
To: Nonohome
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] ipchains


the ipchains rules are defined in /etc/rc.d/init.d/masq

try changing all port 80 related rules to port 555
(in other words replace 80 bye 555 in all rules)
That could help I think...

- Original Message -
From: Nonohome [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 3:45 PM
Subject: [e-smith-devinfo] ipchains


 Hi,

 New in this mailing list, i would like my webserver to be reachable from
 the internet.
 The problem is that I own a special modem, which uses port 80, and so
 prevent my server from being reachable on this port.

 So i decided to change my default apache port to 555. It is now fully
 working from intranet, but still unreachable from outside.
 (although the corresponding ibays allows anyone from internet)

 Could anyone tell me what to do in this case. I think there's something
 wrong with IPCHAINS, but it is an unknown language for me.

 Thanks in advance,

 PS : used hardware: E-smith 4.1.2 server, Modem ADSL icon Diva 2430SE
  SSH works fine, so it isn't a modem security problem, which make
a
 NAT default towards Linux server (except on port 80 !!!)

 Nono
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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Apache support for Java and XML

2001-07-17 Thread Jelmer Kuperus

yes i have successfully run apache cocoon on e-smith.
its an xml publishing framework that requires a servlet engine to run
it has full xsl support asswell as being able to render pdfs using fop and
rendering images generated with svg.

apache doesnt support xml out of the box , at least not the version
installed with e-smith 1.4.2 , i dont know about apache 2 but i think most
servers standpoint is that xml should be processed clientside not serverside

in order to set it up a number of steps must be taken

a install the sun jdk 1.3 rpm (http://www.javasoft.com)

b install a servlet engine (for instance resin www.caucho.com ) or if your a

  cheap basterd you can use tomcat (http://jakarta.apache.org)

c compile and run the apache plugin havent,seen any precomplied ones if you
ask me polite i might send you a precompiled one :) , i you'd like to do it
yourself you have to install the apache developement package

d download cocoon , compile in and place the war in the /webapps folder of
your application server

grtz jelmer





-Original Message-
From: Richard Ford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: dinsdag 17 juli 2001 12:34
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: dev info
Subject: Re: [e-smith-devinfo] Apache support for Java and XML


I believe only apache 2 has XML out of the box.

Richard.


- Original Message -
From: Brandon Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: e-smith devinfo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 5:17 PM
Subject: [e-smith-devinfo] Apache support for Java and XML


 Howdy...

 Does e-smith (apache) support XML and Java out-the-box.

 http://java.apache.org/
 http://xml.apache.org/

 I had a quick look at these sites has anybody attempted this?

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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Lack of X

2001-07-06 Thread Jelmer Kuperus

nothing i supose , but thats not what e-smith was intended to do i think
same reason as why there are no compilers installed


-Original Message-
From: Richard Ford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: vrijdag 6 juli 2001 6:06
To: dev info
Subject: [e-smith-devinfo] Lack of X

Just thinking.

If people decide to use e-smith as a more general linux box and hence need X
suuport for apps.

What is wrong with a simple export DISPLAY=myIPnumber:0.0

And then loading the app in question?  And running an X sever on your
desktop - be it Linux or windows?

I just thought of this, as I over a SSH session manipulated a GIS and
performed some calculations and modeling - where I had exported the display
to that of a screen in another city.


Richard Ford.
Cubok PTY LTD
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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] EMAIL - IS THIS NOT AT INTERISTIGN TOPIC OR CAN NO ONE BE BOTHER ANSWEREING ME!!

2001-07-03 Thread Jelmer Kuperus

may i point out that getting help is a privelage not a right..
if you want an aswer straight away go buy yourself some support.

even if i knew the aswer to your question i wouldn't answer you now..
read up on nettiquette dude.

-Original Message-
From: David Jacobs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: maandag 25 juni 2001 10:06
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Subject: [e-smith-devinfo] EMAIL - IS THIS NOT AT INTERISTIGN TOPIC OR
CAN NO ONE BE BOTHER ANSWEREING ME!!


HI - This message has been now posted for the 3 day with NOW responce a 
reply would be nice!

I was looking into the way Email is handled on E-smith i was using POP 3 
andhave changed over to IMAP, Firstly i am aware that you are able to 
sort email ont various foulders taht i have created using procmail and a 
.procmailrc file, is this the case with the way e-smith is set up or os 
there a differatn mail delivery porgram being used. Also if Procmail is 
being used are tehre any example of the setup or an e-smith how to that 
i can look at

regards

david


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RE: [e-smith-devinfo] Darrell May, DMC Netsourced.com

2001-06-28 Thread Jelmer Kuperus

/me slaps e-smith around with a very very large trout

-Original Message-
From: Darrell May [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: donderdag 28 juni 2001 1:12
To: e-smith-devinfo
Subject: [e-smith-devinfo] Darrell May, DMC Netsourced.com


Regretfully I wish to inform everyone that e-smith has terminated my 
partnership agreement.

I want everyone to know I have thoroughly enjoyed the opportunity 
of 'meeting' all of you and sharing in the development and support of the 
e-smith product.  I have also enjoyed the open and honest sharing of 
knowledge, opinions and comments.  I have found this sharing very 
beneficial.  I thank all those who have assisted me in gaining knowledge 
from my newbie start to my humble beginnings of I think I know what I'm 
doing.

For now I will take some time to reflect on this course of events.  Who 
knows what the future holds.

Regards,

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DMC NETSOURCED.COM
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