Re: petal2dia?
--- Oliver Kellogg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: James Michael DuPont wrote: I plan to give it a try during the Holidays. Ok, so you mean with it, a C implementation of a petal reader? Or the linking of Crazy beans into Dia? The latter. I realize the former would really be good because it avoids reliance on Java, but that sound like two steps an once, and I'd like to focus on the petal to dia translation. OK. This sounds good. Please let me know if you need any help. mike = James Michael DuPont http://introspector.sourceforge.net/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ Dia-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia/faq.html Main page at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia
Re: petal2dia?
James Michael DuPont wrote: WAIT : http://crazybeans.sourceforge.net/ [...] Thanks for your reply. Yes, I've been looking at CrazyBeans. My question was really just a check to avoid duplication of effort in case someone was already working on it. I plan to give it a try during the Holidays. Oliver -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://orbitada.sourceforge.net ___ Dia-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia/faq.html Main page at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia
Re: petal2dia?
--- Oliver Kellogg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: James Michael DuPont wrote: WAIT : http://crazybeans.sourceforge.net/ [...] Thanks for your reply. Yes, I've been looking at CrazyBeans. My question was really just a check to avoid duplication of effort in case someone was already working on it. I plan to give it a try during the Holidays. Ok, so you mean with it, a C implementation of a petal reader? Or the linking of Crazy beans into Dia? In any case, it sounds good to me. :) Mike = James Michael DuPont http://introspector.sourceforge.net/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ Dia-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia/faq.html Main page at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia
I thought i was wrong once but i was mistaken [Re: petal2dia?]
ignore everyone listen to me!!! there is a bug report, i might look it up tomorrow ... where, when how? In Gnome Bugzilla under the Dia component of course. All you had to do was look, where else might it be. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62397 Is there a path for transitioning Rose models to dia/UML? So the question said Dia or UML and XMI is another UML format. I read the question as Dia UML not Dia or UML. Ummm My knee jerk reaction was spot on. It was not spot on. Helpful maybe, but you over estimate to say you were spot on. Crazybeans is not a part of Dia, nor does it produce Dia or Xfig files that can be imported into Dia. While it is a potential path it is not an actual path. my head hurts, guess what i blame ... (for the answer see my email from late last night). Sincerely Alan Horkan ___ Dia-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia/faq.html Main page at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia
Re: petal2dia?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, Is there a path for transitioning Rose models to dia/UML? IMO this is impossible. The petal file is closed-secret-proprietary and even if it could be reserve engineered the format is subject to change without notice. I would much rather that there was a suitable open standard then RatRose and Dia could both conform to it. Unfortunately I don't think that XMI is quite good enough yet. Other standards are currently being worked on. In the meantime XML seems the best way to go to me, since it would then be possible to write XSLT translators when a standard is finally agreed on. Regards, Andrew Marlow. ___ Dia-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia/faq.html Main page at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia
Re: petal2dia?
--- Andrew Marlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, Is there a path for transitioning Rose models to dia/UML? IMO this is impossible. The petal file is closed-secret-proprietary and even if it could be reserve engineered the format is subject to change without notice. WAIT : http://crazybeans.sourceforge.net/ QUOTE Rational Rose is probably the most widely used tool for software engineering processes, although it has some deficiencies (which we will not discuss here). In this project we tried to tackle one of them related to the ``roundtrip engineering'' process. One can import source files into Rose and create class diagrams from them. Vice versa one can create classes (and IDL specifications or whatever you need) from class (and other) diagrams. Yet these creation processes can not be influenced by the user in a convenient, flexible and extensible way. Another problem is that these models are proprietary and some people would like to have the possibility to write a converter for these models into a different format used by another tool, XMI, for example. /QUOTE = James Michael DuPont http://introspector.sourceforge.net/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ Dia-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia/faq.html Main page at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia
Re: petal2dia?
ignore everyone listen to me!!! there is a bug report, i might look it up tomorrow ... Rat Rose uses a Lisp like file format (no nasty binary) it is reasonably well documented just that no one has gotten around to adding support for it. Ha ha ha other responses were knew jerk reactions ... XMI would be cool tho' /me blames alcohol for everthing later Alan On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, Oliver Kellogg wrote: Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 07:03:43 +0100 From: Oliver Kellogg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: petal2dia? Hi, Is there a path for transitioning Rose models to dia/UML? Thanks, Oliver ___ Dia-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia/faq.html Main page at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia ___ Dia-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia/faq.html Main page at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia
Re: petal2dia?
ignore everyone listen to me!!! there is a bug report, i might look it up tomorrow ... Rat Rose uses a Lisp like file format (no nasty binary) it is reasonably well documented just that no one has gotten around to adding support for it. Ha ha ha other responses were knew jerk reactions ... XMI would be cool tho' /me blames alcohol for everthing later Alan Mmm, at first glance (knee jerk), this seems like it has the potential for being much easier to implement than XMI support. Though, I agree, XMI still would be cool, the main reason for wanting it at this point is to swap with Rose. Levi ___ Dia-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia/faq.html Main page at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia
Re: petal2dia?
--- Alan Horkan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ignore everyone listen to me!!! there is a bug report, i might look it up tomorrow ... where, when how? Rat Rose uses a Lisp like file format (no nasty binary) it is reasonably well documented just that no one has gotten around to adding support for it. Crazy beans supports it. Ha ha ha other responses were knew jerk reactions ... Ummm My knee jerk reaction was spot on. XMI would be cool tho' Take a look at CrazyBeans. mike = James Michael DuPont http://introspector.sourceforge.net/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ Dia-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia/faq.html Main page at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia
Re: petal2dia?
--- Levi Bard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mmm, at first glance (knee jerk), this seems like it has the potential for being much easier to implement than XMI support. Though, I agree, XMI still would be cool, the main reason for wanting it at this point is to swap with Rose. The point is that if we can get the gjc running, we can have support of xmi and of petal. The guys in argouml have lots of nice java components, just waited to be cherrypicked.. mike = James Michael DuPont http://introspector.sourceforge.net/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ Dia-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia/faq.html Main page at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia
