Re: Fwd: [DDN] Are online social networks a fad?
dave, these guys are successful marketeers. they clearly are partial to groups like linkedin. perhaps what they are saying is that the new medium is creating a number of possibilities that most of us may not be aware of insofar as all their implications. they are creating new values. and each step people take with them paints them in a certain light that they will be judged upon. however, a large number of people may be oblivious to some of these issues and may be adversely affected by them. in other words, social networks are evolving and freedom associated with them has its implications that may have more significant consequences than we imagine. thanks On 6/20/06, Dave A. Chakrabarti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Satish, I'd echo Dan, and ask if those CEOs feel the same way about LinkedIn? Or about the large number of Ivy League graduates on Facebook? MySpace may have the image of being a social networking tool for teenagers, complete with unprofessional content, background, and media, but that trend is far from ubiquitous, and doesn't even begin to describe social networking as a whole. For social networking to make sense, it must be themed by purpose. I'm not sure those themes can even be rigidly applied, given the ways in which it is possible to use MySpace to develop a constituency or a network of friendly faces. I'm curious as to whether any of those CEOs had backgrounds in marketing, or specifically in marketing with new media? Dave. --- Dave A. Chakrabarti Projects Coordinator CTCNet Chicago [EMAIL PROTECTED] (708) 919 1026 --- Satish Jha wrote: I was at a conference this week in Boston where they had a panel on socila networking and the founder ceos of some of the major ones were present there.. most of the professional network organisations ceos said that they will not take any candidate who was spotted on myspace seriously.. in other words, no matter how open and accessible things become, we will evolve ways to clkassify them and create a caste system to determine what represents what.. On 6/17/06, J Cravens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just wanted to let you know about a blog entry I just wrote in response to a C|NET News article that debated whether or not online social networks are a fad. In it, I look at the history of online community building, from the earliest bulletin board systems and email lists to community networks and online social networks. Well, since you're sharing yours, I'll share mine: -- satish jha, [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ https://www.linkedin.com/in/satishjha ___ DIGITALDIVIDE mailing list DIGITALDIVIDE@mailman.edc.org http://mailman.edc.org/mailman/listinfo/digitaldivide To unsubscribe, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message. ___ DIGITALDIVIDE mailing list DIGITALDIVIDE@mailman.edc.org http://mailman.edc.org/mailman/listinfo/digitaldivide To unsubscribe, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message. -- _ https://www.linkedin.com/in/satishjha ___ DIGITALDIVIDE mailing list DIGITALDIVIDE@mailman.edc.org http://mailman.edc.org/mailman/listinfo/digitaldivide To unsubscribe, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message.
Re: [DDN] Are online social networks a fad?
When social networks become networks of purpose, working together to solve important problems, CEOs will take them seriously. Until then, CEOs will think they are taking productive time away from making a profit for the company. Solving problems via the internet is the same as solving problems through any face based process, except the people who participate can come from many different parts of the world and the ideas used to innovate solutions can also come from many parts of the world. Solving important problems take lots of people, many years, and lots of sweat, brains and money. We need learn to use social networking to innovate ways to get these resources and keep them focused on specific problems for many years. When social network people demonstrate that they can innovate better solutions, faster and at a lower cost than can place based groups, CEOs will join them. My opinion. Dan Bassill Tutor/Mentor Connection http://tutormentor.blogspot.com http://www.tutormentorconnection.org on 6/18/06 11:04 PM, Satish Jha at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was at a conference this week in Boston where they had a panel on socila networking and the founder ceos of some of the major ones were present there.. most of the professional network organisations ceos said that they will not take any candidate who was spotted on myspace seriously.. in other words, no matter how open and accessible things become, we will evolve ways to clkassify them and create a caste system to determine what represents what.. On 6/17/06, J Cravens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just wanted to let you know about a blog entry I just wrote in response to a C|NET News article that debated whether or not online social networks are a fad. In it, I look at the history of online community building, from the earliest bulletin board systems and email lists to community networks and online social networks. Well, since you're sharing yours, I'll share mine: -- satish jha, [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ https://www.linkedin.com/in/satishjha ___ DIGITALDIVIDE mailing list DIGITALDIVIDE@mailman.edc.org http://mailman.edc.org/mailman/listinfo/digitaldivide To unsubscribe, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message. ___ DIGITALDIVIDE mailing list DIGITALDIVIDE@mailman.edc.org http://mailman.edc.org/mailman/listinfo/digitaldivide To unsubscribe, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message.
Re: Fwd: [DDN] Are online social networks a fad?
Satish, I'd echo Dan, and ask if those CEOs feel the same way about LinkedIn? Or about the large number of Ivy League graduates on Facebook? MySpace may have the image of being a social networking tool for teenagers, complete with unprofessional content, background, and media, but that trend is far from ubiquitous, and doesn't even begin to describe social networking as a whole. For social networking to make sense, it must be themed by purpose. I'm not sure those themes can even be rigidly applied, given the ways in which it is possible to use MySpace to develop a constituency or a network of friendly faces. I'm curious as to whether any of those CEOs had backgrounds in marketing, or specifically in marketing with new media? Dave. --- Dave A. Chakrabarti Projects Coordinator CTCNet Chicago [EMAIL PROTECTED] (708) 919 1026 --- Satish Jha wrote: I was at a conference this week in Boston where they had a panel on socila networking and the founder ceos of some of the major ones were present there.. most of the professional network organisations ceos said that they will not take any candidate who was spotted on myspace seriously.. in other words, no matter how open and accessible things become, we will evolve ways to clkassify them and create a caste system to determine what represents what.. On 6/17/06, J Cravens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just wanted to let you know about a blog entry I just wrote in response to a C|NET News article that debated whether or not online social networks are a fad. In it, I look at the history of online community building, from the earliest bulletin board systems and email lists to community networks and online social networks. Well, since you're sharing yours, I'll share mine: -- satish jha, [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ https://www.linkedin.com/in/satishjha ___ DIGITALDIVIDE mailing list DIGITALDIVIDE@mailman.edc.org http://mailman.edc.org/mailman/listinfo/digitaldivide To unsubscribe, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message. ___ DIGITALDIVIDE mailing list DIGITALDIVIDE@mailman.edc.org http://mailman.edc.org/mailman/listinfo/digitaldivide To unsubscribe, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message.
Re: [DDN] Are online social networks a fad?
I just wanted to let you know about a blog entry I just wrote in response to a C|NET News article that debated whether or not online social networks are a fad. In it, I look at the history of online community building, from the earliest bulletin board systems and email lists to community networks and online social networks. Well, since you're sharing yours, I'll share mine: http://www.coyotecommunications.com/outreach/osn.html Nonprofit Organizations and Online Social Networking: Advice and Commentary (I guess, all in all, that it puts me in the it's a fad camp) -- Ms. Jayne Cravens MSc Bonn, Germany Services for Mission-Based Orgs www.coyotecommunications.com International Development Studies Work www.coyotecommunications.com/development Contact me www.coyotecommunications.com/contact.html www.ivisit.com id: jcravens.4947 ___ DIGITALDIVIDE mailing list DIGITALDIVIDE@mailman.edc.org http://mailman.edc.org/mailman/listinfo/digitaldivide To unsubscribe, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message.
RE: [DDN] Are online social networks a fad?
Andy, Great response! I would like to share my thoughts based up on the TechSoup online social networking event we held a few months ago. This was originally envisioned to discuss how people are using MySpace, Tribe, Care2, etc... however, the conversation quickly morphed into people's understanding the entire websphere is their social network.. in other words the people who make up the blogs I read, the organizations I'm interested in, who are producing social bookmark tags I'm tracking, the photographers on Flickr I'm interested in represent a much broader and richer online social network. So while, the MySpaces of the world have tremendous attention, most people were interested in finding the best way to assemble their own online network out of the parts and pieces of user expression they find in various forms. More on this can be found @ http://www.techsoup.org/fb/index.cfm?fuseaction=forums.showSingleTopicf orum=2033id=63317cid=117 ..and @ http://www.techsoup.org/fb/index.cfm?fuseaction=forums.showSingleTopicf orum=2033id=63242cid=117 So, I would say that even CNET definition of online social network is a bit too narrow as well. John Lorance -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Carvin Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 10:58 AM To: The Digital Divide Network discussion group; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [DDN] Are online social networks a fad? Hi everyone, I just wanted to let you know about a blog entry I just wrote in response to a C|NET News article that debated whether or not online social networks are a fad. In it, I look at the history of online community building, from the earliest bulletin board systems and email lists to community networks and online social networks. Here's a snippet from the blog: In a June 14 article for C|NET News, Stephanie Olsen examines whether online social networks like MySpace are here to stay or are a passing fad. The article, which looks at the issue mostly from a business perspective, suggests the jury is still out. But from a human perspective, history suggests otherwise. The Internet has always been about community. Sure, when it was developed in the late 60s, the idea was to have a decentralized computer network that could survive a nuclear holocaust. But even when the very first computer network was set up, there was at least one person behind each of those computers. And when you connect two people together, you have the minimal requirements for forming a new community. And in this case, the more the merrier: as Metcalfe's Law suggests, the value of a network is intrinsically connected to the number of people communicating over it. More people, bigger network. Bigger network, bigger community. Bigger doesn't always mean better, of course, but it does help you reach critical mass. Of course, for many years the Internet didn't seem like a community because it was so research-oriented, but that didn't stop people from using the technology to forge bonds with each other. As Ethan Zuckerman recently pointed out in his lightning-fast history of the Internet at the Harvard Beyond Broadcast conference, the first email discussion list was created more than 30 years ago, in 1975. By the late 70s, we had USENET bulletin board discussions, which continue today in the form of Google Groups. And in 1982, France introduced the Minitel interactive TV system - which just happened to have a chat feature, presaging the development of instant messaging. snip Now, of course, you can barely turn on the TV news (or check your RSS feed) without hearing about an online social network. They're certainly the big thing in many circles, which is why venture capitalists are debating their future, as is the case in the aforementioned C|NET article. Whether or not they continue to be the darling of investors remains to be seen. But their fundamental purpose - giving people a platform for congregating, interacting and creating new things - isn't going to go away when the fad is over. That's because congregating, interacting and creating new things is what the Internet is all about. It's what communities are all about. And pioneering educators, like always, are right in the middle of it. The question, though, remains whether the rest of the K12 community will embrace these tools or shun them snip http://www.pbs.org/learningnow permalink: http://www.pbs.org/teachersource/learning.now/2006/06/are_online_social_ networks_a_f.html thanks, ac -- -- Andy Carvin acarvin (at) edc . org andycarvin (at) yahoo . com http://www.andycarvin.com http://www.digitaldivide.net http://www.pbs.org/learningnow -- ___ DIGITALDIVIDE mailing list DIGITALDIVIDE@mailman.edc.org http://mailman.edc.org/mailman/listinfo/digitaldivide To unsubscribe
[DDN] Are online social networks a fad?
Hi everyone, I just wanted to let you know about a blog entry I just wrote in response to a C|NET News article that debated whether or not online social networks are a fad. In it, I look at the history of online community building, from the earliest bulletin board systems and email lists to community networks and online social networks. Here's a snippet from the blog: In a June 14 article for C|NET News, Stephanie Olsen examines whether online social networks like MySpace are here to stay or are a passing fad. The article, which looks at the issue mostly from a business perspective, suggests the jury is still out. But from a human perspective, history suggests otherwise. The Internet has always been about community. Sure, when it was developed in the late 60s, the idea was to have a decentralized computer network that could survive a nuclear holocaust. But even when the very first computer network was set up, there was at least one person behind each of those computers. And when you connect two people together, you have the minimal requirements for forming a new community. And in this case, the more the merrier: as Metcalfe’s Law suggests, the value of a network is intrinsically connected to the number of people communicating over it. More people, bigger network. Bigger network, bigger community. Bigger doesn’t always mean better, of course, but it does help you reach critical mass. Of course, for many years the Internet didn’t seem like a community because it was so research-oriented, but that didn’t stop people from using the technology to forge bonds with each other. As Ethan Zuckerman recently pointed out in his lightning-fast history of the Internet at the Harvard Beyond Broadcast conference, the first email discussion list was created more than 30 years ago, in 1975. By the late 70s, we had USENET bulletin board discussions, which continue today in the form of Google Groups. And in 1982, France introduced the Minitel interactive TV system - which just happened to have a chat feature, presaging the development of instant messaging. snip Now, of course, you can barely turn on the TV news (or check your RSS feed) without hearing about an online social network. They’re certainly the “big thing” in many circles, which is why venture capitalists are debating their future, as is the case in the aforementioned C|NET article. Whether or not they continue to be the darling of investors remains to be seen. But their fundamental purpose - giving people a platform for congregating, interacting and creating new things - isn’t going to go away when the fad is over. That’s because congregating, interacting and creating new things is what the Internet is all about. It’s what communities are all about. And pioneering educators, like always, are right in the middle of it. The question, though, remains whether the rest of the K12 community will embrace these tools or shun them snip http://www.pbs.org/learningnow permalink: http://www.pbs.org/teachersource/learning.now/2006/06/are_online_social_networks_a_f.html thanks, ac -- -- Andy Carvin acarvin (at) edc . org andycarvin (at) yahoo . com http://www.andycarvin.com http://www.digitaldivide.net http://www.pbs.org/learningnow -- ___ DIGITALDIVIDE mailing list DIGITALDIVIDE@mailman.edc.org http://mailman.edc.org/mailman/listinfo/digitaldivide To unsubscribe, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message.
