Re: [DDN] Jimmy Wales announces Wikipedia/$100 laptop alliance, Wikiversity, Wikiwyg

2006-08-12 Thread Kinyua Martin
Dear David,

In Kenya, which I believe is the case in many African countries, there
is little access to good reading material let alone the Internet.
However, many facilities, for example, government have access to a
computer. In my view, it is better to have an outdated copy of wikipedia
than have nothing at all. I am interested in having a static copy of
wikipedia (a plus if there can be a way of updating it). I am involved
in running an elearning project that seeks to upgrade the skills of
21,000 nurses throughout Kenya. One of the hurdles we have faced is
access to reference material. Wikipedia would be an excellent resource
to deploy.

Rehards

Martin Kinyua
Assistant Project Manger - AMREF
E-Learning
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The problem with having copies on a computer hard drive of the Wikipedia
or any other electronic book is that this is then a static copy of that
tool.  The whole idea of the Wikipedia and of a Wiki in general is that
anyone in the audience of that Wiki can modify, rewrite or improve the
content already there.  There may be hundreds of changes to the
Wikipedia
daily.  A static copy of this tool rather than accessing the Wikipedia
on
the web would become an outdated copy in very short order, unless a
mechanism is going to exist to connect to the Wikipedia website to have
the content revised online.



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On Sun, 6 Aug 2006, Andy Carvin wrote:

 Well, that's the long-term plan of Wikipedia

 ac

 Subbiah Arunachalam wrote:
  Why should we not have a free copy of Wikipedia in all low-cost
  computers meant for individuals, schools and other public access
centres
  in the rural areas of developing countries?
 
  Arun
 
 
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  Subject: [DDN] Jimmy Wales announces Wikipedia/$100 laptop alliance,
  Wikiversity, Wikiwyg
 
 
 
  Today at the second annual Wikimania conference, Wikipedia founder
  Jimmy Wales announced that MIT's $100 laptops will all include a
copy
  of Wikipedia. He also announced the launch of Wikiversity, an
online
  community for generating learning materials, and Wikiwyg, a
  easy-to-use interface for editing Wikipedia, developed in
conjunction
  with SocialText.
 
  More here:
 
 
http://www.andycarvin.com/archives/2006/08/jimmy_wales_announce.html
 
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Re: [DDN] Jimmy Wales announces Wikipedia/$100 laptop alliance, Wikiversity, Wikiwyg

2006-08-12 Thread rengab
hi all

it's true that online wiki is best

for those who have affordable net connection

but for those who have none

this is infinitely better than without wiki instead

a mechanism can be made for incremental updating

regards

rene abad
e-d, y3k foundation
philippines





 The problem with having copies on a computer hard drive of the Wikipedia
 or any other electronic book is that this is then a static copy of that
 tool.  The whole idea of the Wikipedia and of a Wiki in general is that
 anyone in the audience of that Wiki can modify, rewrite or improve the
 content already there.  There may be hundreds of changes to the Wikipedia
 daily.  A static copy of this tool rather than accessing the Wikipedia on
 the web would become an outdated copy in very short order, unless a
 mechanism is going to exist to connect to the Wikipedia website to have
 the content revised online.



 Sincerely,
 David Dillard
 Temple University
 (215) 204 - 4584
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 On Sun, 6 Aug 2006, Andy Carvin wrote:

 Well, that's the long-term plan of Wikipedia

 ac

 Subbiah Arunachalam wrote:
  Why should we not have a free copy of Wikipedia in all low-cost
  computers meant for individuals, schools and other public access
 centres
  in the rural areas of developing countries?
 
  Arun
 
 
  - Original Message - From: Andy Carvin
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  To: The Digital Divide Network discussion group
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  Subject: [DDN] Jimmy Wales announces Wikipedia/$100 laptop alliance,
  Wikiversity, Wikiwyg
 
 
 
  Today at the second annual Wikimania conference, Wikipedia founder
  Jimmy Wales announced that MIT's $100 laptops will all include a copy
  of Wikipedia. He also announced the launch of Wikiversity, an online
  community for generating learning materials, and Wikiwyg, a
  easy-to-use interface for editing Wikipedia, developed in conjunction
  with SocialText.
 
  More here:
 
  http://www.andycarvin.com/archives/2006/08/jimmy_wales_announce.html
 
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Re: [DDN] Jimmy Wales announces Wikipedia/$100 laptop alliance, Wikiversity, Wikiwyg

2006-08-11 Thread Andy Carvin
I talked about this in a recent post to my learning.now blog. Here's a 
snippet:

For some rural communities in the developing world, Internet access will 
be intermittent at best, so it would be possible to develop some kind of 
“wikisync” tool that would sync the laptops with the latest Wikipedia, 
just like you would sync your mobile phone with your computer’s address 
book.

But this leads to another problem: as more and more educators encourage 
students to become Wikipedians themselves, how will the Wikipedia 
community dynamic be affected by these intermittent updates? For 
example, let’s say a group of kids in a rural Nigerian community update 
a batch of entries as part of a class project. They don’t have 
consistent Internet access, so they make a series of edits locally. 
Meanwhile, those same Wikipedia entries are probably evolving online, as 
other Wikipedians enter them. To complicate matters further, another 
group of students in Massachusetts work to edit the same entries, but 
aren’t allowed to participate in the discussions for those entries 
because of the school’s concern over online predators. How will the 
different versions of the same entry be reconciled when the students’ 
entries are updated? Will the online Wikipedians feel slighted when the 
students’ content suddenly overrides their content without building 
consensus?

Wikipedia, when it’s at its best, works well because a community of 
people come together around an entry and use their collective knowledge 
to craft it. It’s the interplay that takes place between these people 
that leads to a consensus document - a consensus that remains a 
work-in-progress, but a consensus nonetheless. Would having students 
that lack regular Internet access editing Wikipedia entries offline make 
it impossible to achieve that consensus?

full text:

http://www.pbs.org/teachersource/learning.now/2006/08/will_wikimaniacs_change_educat.html

andy

David P. Dillard wrote:
 
 
 The problem with having copies on a computer hard drive of the Wikipedia
 or any other electronic book is that this is then a static copy of that
 tool.  The whole idea of the Wikipedia and of a Wiki in general is that
 anyone in the audience of that Wiki can modify, rewrite or improve the
 content already there.  There may be hundreds of changes to the Wikipedia
 daily.  A static copy of this tool rather than accessing the Wikipedia on
 the web would become an outdated copy in very short order, unless a
 mechanism is going to exist to connect to the Wikipedia website to have
 the content revised online.
 
 
 
 Sincerely,
 David Dillard
 Temple University
 (215) 204 - 4584
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 On Sun, 6 Aug 2006, Andy Carvin wrote:
 
 
Well, that's the long-term plan of Wikipedia

ac

Subbiah Arunachalam wrote:

Why should we not have a free copy of Wikipedia in all low-cost
computers meant for individuals, schools and other public access centres
in the rural areas of developing countries?

Arun


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To: The Digital Divide Network discussion group
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Today at the second annual Wikimania conference, Wikipedia founder
Jimmy Wales announced that MIT's $100 laptops will all include a copy
of Wikipedia. He also announced the launch of Wikiversity, an online
community for generating learning materials, and Wikiwyg, a
easy-to-use interface for editing Wikipedia, developed in conjunction
with SocialText.

More here:

http://www.andycarvin.com/archives/2006/08/jimmy_wales_announce.html

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Re: [DDN] Jimmy Wales announces Wikipedia/$100 laptop alliance, Wikiversity, Wikiwyg

2006-08-10 Thread David P. Dillard



The problem with having copies on a computer hard drive of the Wikipedia
or any other electronic book is that this is then a static copy of that
tool.  The whole idea of the Wikipedia and of a Wiki in general is that
anyone in the audience of that Wiki can modify, rewrite or improve the
content already there.  There may be hundreds of changes to the Wikipedia
daily.  A static copy of this tool rather than accessing the Wikipedia on
the web would become an outdated copy in very short order, unless a
mechanism is going to exist to connect to the Wikipedia website to have
the content revised online.



Sincerely,
David Dillard
Temple University
(215) 204 - 4584
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Sun, 6 Aug 2006, Andy Carvin wrote:

 Well, that's the long-term plan of Wikipedia

 ac

 Subbiah Arunachalam wrote:
  Why should we not have a free copy of Wikipedia in all low-cost
  computers meant for individuals, schools and other public access centres
  in the rural areas of developing countries?
 
  Arun
 
 
  - Original Message - From: Andy Carvin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: The Digital Divide Network discussion group
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 7:31 PM
  Subject: [DDN] Jimmy Wales announces Wikipedia/$100 laptop alliance,
  Wikiversity, Wikiwyg
 
 
 
  Today at the second annual Wikimania conference, Wikipedia founder
  Jimmy Wales announced that MIT's $100 laptops will all include a copy
  of Wikipedia. He also announced the launch of Wikiversity, an online
  community for generating learning materials, and Wikiwyg, a
  easy-to-use interface for editing Wikipedia, developed in conjunction
  with SocialText.
 
  More here:
 
  http://www.andycarvin.com/archives/2006/08/jimmy_wales_announce.html
 
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Re: [DDN] Jimmy Wales announces Wikipedia/$100 laptop alliance, Wikiversity, Wikiwyg

2006-08-08 Thread Subbiah Arunachalam
I would like to see Wikipedia partner with the rural knowledge centres of 
India's Mission 2007: Every Village a Knowledge Centre and provide an 
updated version of Wikipedia every two or three months to be loaded the PCs 
in these centres.

Arun


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 Well, that's the long-term plan of Wikipedia

 ac

 Subbiah Arunachalam wrote:
 Why should we not have a free copy of Wikipedia in all low-cost computers 
 meant for individuals, schools and other public access centres in the 
 rural areas of developing countries?

 Arun


 - Original Message - From: Andy Carvin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: The Digital Divide Network discussion group 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 7:31 PM
 Subject: [DDN] Jimmy Wales announces Wikipedia/$100 laptop alliance, 
 Wikiversity, Wikiwyg



 Today at the second annual Wikimania conference, Wikipedia founder Jimmy 
 Wales announced that MIT's $100 laptops will all include a copy of 
 Wikipedia. He also announced the launch of Wikiversity, an online 
 community for generating learning materials, and Wikiwyg, a easy-to-use 
 interface for editing Wikipedia, developed in conjunction with 
 SocialText.

 More here:

 http://www.andycarvin.com/archives/2006/08/jimmy_wales_announce.html

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Re: [DDN] Jimmy Wales announces Wikipedia/$100 laptop alliance, Wikiversity, Wikiwyg

2006-08-06 Thread Andy Carvin

Well, that's the long-term plan of Wikipedia

ac

Subbiah Arunachalam wrote:
Why should we not have a free copy of Wikipedia in all low-cost 
computers meant for individuals, schools and other public access centres 
in the rural areas of developing countries?


Arun


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Today at the second annual Wikimania conference, Wikipedia founder 
Jimmy Wales announced that MIT's $100 laptops will all include a copy 
of Wikipedia. He also announced the launch of Wikiversity, an online 
community for generating learning materials, and Wikiwyg, a 
easy-to-use interface for editing Wikipedia, developed in conjunction 
with SocialText.


More here:

http://www.andycarvin.com/archives/2006/08/jimmy_wales_announce.html

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[DDN] Jimmy Wales announces Wikipedia/$100 laptop alliance, Wikiversity, Wikiwyg

2006-08-04 Thread Andy Carvin


Today at the second annual Wikimania conference, Wikipedia founder Jimmy 
Wales announced that MIT's $100 laptops will all include a copy of 
Wikipedia. He also announced the launch of Wikiversity, an online 
community for generating learning materials, and Wikiwyg, a easy-to-use 
interface for editing Wikipedia, developed in conjunction with SocialText.


More here:

http://www.andycarvin.com/archives/2006/08/jimmy_wales_announce.html

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Re: [DDN] Jimmy Wales announces Wikipedia/$100 laptop alliance, Wikiversity, Wikiwyg

2006-08-04 Thread Andy Carvin
I've posted more info about his presentation, including my notes and a 
podcast.


Notes:
http://www.andycarvin.com/archives/2006/08/notes_from_jimmy_wal.html

Podcast:
http://www.andycarvin.com/archives/2006/08/podcast_of_jimmy_wal.html

Andy Carvin wrote:


Today at the second annual Wikimania conference, Wikipedia founder Jimmy 
Wales announced that MIT's $100 laptops will all include a copy of 
Wikipedia. He also announced the launch of Wikiversity, an online 
community for generating learning materials, and Wikiwyg, a easy-to-use 
interface for editing Wikipedia, developed in conjunction with SocialText.


More here:

http://www.andycarvin.com/archives/2006/08/jimmy_wales_announce.html



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