Re: [DDN] Jimmy Wales announces Wikipedia/$100 laptop alliance, Wikiversity, Wikiwyg
Dear David, In Kenya, which I believe is the case in many African countries, there is little access to good reading material let alone the Internet. However, many facilities, for example, government have access to a computer. In my view, it is better to have an outdated copy of wikipedia than have nothing at all. I am interested in having a static copy of wikipedia (a plus if there can be a way of updating it). I am involved in running an elearning project that seeks to upgrade the skills of 21,000 nurses throughout Kenya. One of the hurdles we have faced is access to reference material. Wikipedia would be an excellent resource to deploy. Rehards Martin Kinyua Assistant Project Manger - AMREF E-Learning [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: David P. Dillard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 10:48 PM To: The Digital Divide Network discussion group Cc: Senthil Kumaran; Shaddy Subject: Re: [DDN] Jimmy Wales announces Wikipedia/$100 laptop alliance, Wikiversity, Wikiwyg The problem with having copies on a computer hard drive of the Wikipedia or any other electronic book is that this is then a static copy of that tool. The whole idea of the Wikipedia and of a Wiki in general is that anyone in the audience of that Wiki can modify, rewrite or improve the content already there. There may be hundreds of changes to the Wikipedia daily. A static copy of this tool rather than accessing the Wikipedia on the web would become an outdated copy in very short order, unless a mechanism is going to exist to connect to the Wikipedia website to have the content revised online. Sincerely, David Dillard Temple University (215) 204 - 4584 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Net-Gold http://groups.yahoo.com/group/net-gold http://listserv.temple.edu/archives/net-gold.html General Internet Print Resources http://library.temple.edu/articles/subject_guides/general.jsp http://www.learningis4everyone.org/ http://www.edu-cyberpg.com/ringleaders/davidd.html Digital Divide Network http://www.digitaldivide.net/profile/jwne Educator-Gold http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Educator-Gold/ On Sun, 6 Aug 2006, Andy Carvin wrote: Well, that's the long-term plan of Wikipedia ac Subbiah Arunachalam wrote: Why should we not have a free copy of Wikipedia in all low-cost computers meant for individuals, schools and other public access centres in the rural areas of developing countries? Arun - Original Message - From: Andy Carvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Digital Divide Network discussion group [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 7:31 PM Subject: [DDN] Jimmy Wales announces Wikipedia/$100 laptop alliance, Wikiversity, Wikiwyg Today at the second annual Wikimania conference, Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales announced that MIT's $100 laptops will all include a copy of Wikipedia. He also announced the launch of Wikiversity, an online community for generating learning materials, and Wikiwyg, a easy-to-use interface for editing Wikipedia, developed in conjunction with SocialText. More here: http://www.andycarvin.com/archives/2006/08/jimmy_wales_announce.html -- -- Andy Carvin acarvin (at) edc . org andycarvin (at) yahoo . com http://www.andycarvin.com http://www.digitaldivide.net http://www.pbs.org/learningnow ___ DIGITALDIVIDE mailing list DIGITALDIVIDE@mailman.edc.org http://mailman.edc.org/mailman/listinfo/digitaldivide To unsubscribe, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message. ___ DIGITALDIVIDE mailing list DIGITALDIVIDE@mailman.edc.org http://mailman.edc.org/mailman/listinfo/digitaldivide To unsubscribe, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message.
Re: [DDN] Jimmy Wales announces Wikipedia/$100 laptop alliance, Wikiversity, Wikiwyg
hi all it's true that online wiki is best for those who have affordable net connection but for those who have none this is infinitely better than without wiki instead a mechanism can be made for incremental updating regards rene abad e-d, y3k foundation philippines The problem with having copies on a computer hard drive of the Wikipedia or any other electronic book is that this is then a static copy of that tool. The whole idea of the Wikipedia and of a Wiki in general is that anyone in the audience of that Wiki can modify, rewrite or improve the content already there. There may be hundreds of changes to the Wikipedia daily. A static copy of this tool rather than accessing the Wikipedia on the web would become an outdated copy in very short order, unless a mechanism is going to exist to connect to the Wikipedia website to have the content revised online. Sincerely, David Dillard Temple University (215) 204 - 4584 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Net-Gold http://groups.yahoo.com/group/net-gold http://listserv.temple.edu/archives/net-gold.html General Internet Print Resources http://library.temple.edu/articles/subject_guides/general.jsp http://www.learningis4everyone.org/ http://www.edu-cyberpg.com/ringleaders/davidd.html Digital Divide Network http://www.digitaldivide.net/profile/jwne Educator-Gold http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Educator-Gold/ On Sun, 6 Aug 2006, Andy Carvin wrote: Well, that's the long-term plan of Wikipedia ac Subbiah Arunachalam wrote: Why should we not have a free copy of Wikipedia in all low-cost computers meant for individuals, schools and other public access centres in the rural areas of developing countries? Arun - Original Message - From: Andy Carvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Digital Divide Network discussion group [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 7:31 PM Subject: [DDN] Jimmy Wales announces Wikipedia/$100 laptop alliance, Wikiversity, Wikiwyg Today at the second annual Wikimania conference, Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales announced that MIT's $100 laptops will all include a copy of Wikipedia. He also announced the launch of Wikiversity, an online community for generating learning materials, and Wikiwyg, a easy-to-use interface for editing Wikipedia, developed in conjunction with SocialText. More here: http://www.andycarvin.com/archives/2006/08/jimmy_wales_announce.html -- -- Andy Carvin acarvin (at) edc . org andycarvin (at) yahoo . com http://www.andycarvin.com http://www.digitaldivide.net http://www.pbs.org/learningnow ___ DIGITALDIVIDE mailing list DIGITALDIVIDE@mailman.edc.org http://mailman.edc.org/mailman/listinfo/digitaldivide To unsubscribe, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message. ___ DIGITALDIVIDE mailing list DIGITALDIVIDE@mailman.edc.org http://mailman.edc.org/mailman/listinfo/digitaldivide To unsubscribe, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message.
Re: [DDN] Jimmy Wales announces Wikipedia/$100 laptop alliance, Wikiversity, Wikiwyg
I talked about this in a recent post to my learning.now blog. Here's a snippet: For some rural communities in the developing world, Internet access will be intermittent at best, so it would be possible to develop some kind of “wikisync” tool that would sync the laptops with the latest Wikipedia, just like you would sync your mobile phone with your computer’s address book. But this leads to another problem: as more and more educators encourage students to become Wikipedians themselves, how will the Wikipedia community dynamic be affected by these intermittent updates? For example, let’s say a group of kids in a rural Nigerian community update a batch of entries as part of a class project. They don’t have consistent Internet access, so they make a series of edits locally. Meanwhile, those same Wikipedia entries are probably evolving online, as other Wikipedians enter them. To complicate matters further, another group of students in Massachusetts work to edit the same entries, but aren’t allowed to participate in the discussions for those entries because of the school’s concern over online predators. How will the different versions of the same entry be reconciled when the students’ entries are updated? Will the online Wikipedians feel slighted when the students’ content suddenly overrides their content without building consensus? Wikipedia, when it’s at its best, works well because a community of people come together around an entry and use their collective knowledge to craft it. It’s the interplay that takes place between these people that leads to a consensus document - a consensus that remains a work-in-progress, but a consensus nonetheless. Would having students that lack regular Internet access editing Wikipedia entries offline make it impossible to achieve that consensus? full text: http://www.pbs.org/teachersource/learning.now/2006/08/will_wikimaniacs_change_educat.html andy David P. Dillard wrote: The problem with having copies on a computer hard drive of the Wikipedia or any other electronic book is that this is then a static copy of that tool. The whole idea of the Wikipedia and of a Wiki in general is that anyone in the audience of that Wiki can modify, rewrite or improve the content already there. There may be hundreds of changes to the Wikipedia daily. A static copy of this tool rather than accessing the Wikipedia on the web would become an outdated copy in very short order, unless a mechanism is going to exist to connect to the Wikipedia website to have the content revised online. Sincerely, David Dillard Temple University (215) 204 - 4584 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Net-Gold http://groups.yahoo.com/group/net-gold http://listserv.temple.edu/archives/net-gold.html General Internet Print Resources http://library.temple.edu/articles/subject_guides/general.jsp http://www.learningis4everyone.org/ http://www.edu-cyberpg.com/ringleaders/davidd.html Digital Divide Network http://www.digitaldivide.net/profile/jwne Educator-Gold http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Educator-Gold/ On Sun, 6 Aug 2006, Andy Carvin wrote: Well, that's the long-term plan of Wikipedia ac Subbiah Arunachalam wrote: Why should we not have a free copy of Wikipedia in all low-cost computers meant for individuals, schools and other public access centres in the rural areas of developing countries? Arun - Original Message - From: Andy Carvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Digital Divide Network discussion group [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 7:31 PM Subject: [DDN] Jimmy Wales announces Wikipedia/$100 laptop alliance, Wikiversity, Wikiwyg Today at the second annual Wikimania conference, Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales announced that MIT's $100 laptops will all include a copy of Wikipedia. He also announced the launch of Wikiversity, an online community for generating learning materials, and Wikiwyg, a easy-to-use interface for editing Wikipedia, developed in conjunction with SocialText. More here: http://www.andycarvin.com/archives/2006/08/jimmy_wales_announce.html -- -- Andy Carvin acarvin (at) edc . org andycarvin (at) yahoo . com http://www.andycarvin.com http://www.digitaldivide.net http://www.pbs.org/learningnow ___ DIGITALDIVIDE mailing list DIGITALDIVIDE@mailman.edc.org http://mailman.edc.org/mailman/listinfo/digitaldivide To unsubscribe, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message. -- -- Andy Carvin acarvin (at) edc . org andycarvin (at) yahoo . com http://www.andycarvin.com http://www.digitaldivide.net http://www.pbs.org/learningnow -- ___ DIGITALDIVIDE mailing list DIGITALDIVIDE@mailman.edc.org http://mailman.edc.org/mailman/listinfo/digitaldivide To unsubscribe, send a message
Re: [DDN] Jimmy Wales announces Wikipedia/$100 laptop alliance, Wikiversity, Wikiwyg
The problem with having copies on a computer hard drive of the Wikipedia or any other electronic book is that this is then a static copy of that tool. The whole idea of the Wikipedia and of a Wiki in general is that anyone in the audience of that Wiki can modify, rewrite or improve the content already there. There may be hundreds of changes to the Wikipedia daily. A static copy of this tool rather than accessing the Wikipedia on the web would become an outdated copy in very short order, unless a mechanism is going to exist to connect to the Wikipedia website to have the content revised online. Sincerely, David Dillard Temple University (215) 204 - 4584 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Net-Gold http://groups.yahoo.com/group/net-gold http://listserv.temple.edu/archives/net-gold.html General Internet Print Resources http://library.temple.edu/articles/subject_guides/general.jsp http://www.learningis4everyone.org/ http://www.edu-cyberpg.com/ringleaders/davidd.html Digital Divide Network http://www.digitaldivide.net/profile/jwne Educator-Gold http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Educator-Gold/ On Sun, 6 Aug 2006, Andy Carvin wrote: Well, that's the long-term plan of Wikipedia ac Subbiah Arunachalam wrote: Why should we not have a free copy of Wikipedia in all low-cost computers meant for individuals, schools and other public access centres in the rural areas of developing countries? Arun - Original Message - From: Andy Carvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Digital Divide Network discussion group [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 7:31 PM Subject: [DDN] Jimmy Wales announces Wikipedia/$100 laptop alliance, Wikiversity, Wikiwyg Today at the second annual Wikimania conference, Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales announced that MIT's $100 laptops will all include a copy of Wikipedia. He also announced the launch of Wikiversity, an online community for generating learning materials, and Wikiwyg, a easy-to-use interface for editing Wikipedia, developed in conjunction with SocialText. More here: http://www.andycarvin.com/archives/2006/08/jimmy_wales_announce.html -- -- Andy Carvin acarvin (at) edc . org andycarvin (at) yahoo . com http://www.andycarvin.com http://www.digitaldivide.net http://www.pbs.org/learningnow ___ DIGITALDIVIDE mailing list DIGITALDIVIDE@mailman.edc.org http://mailman.edc.org/mailman/listinfo/digitaldivide To unsubscribe, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message.
Re: [DDN] Jimmy Wales announces Wikipedia/$100 laptop alliance, Wikiversity, Wikiwyg
I would like to see Wikipedia partner with the rural knowledge centres of India's Mission 2007: Every Village a Knowledge Centre and provide an updated version of Wikipedia every two or three months to be loaded the PCs in these centres. Arun - Original Message - From: Andy Carvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Subbiah Arunachalam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: The Digital Divide Network discussion group [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Senthil Kumaran [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Shaddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 4:44 PM Subject: Re: [DDN] Jimmy Wales announces Wikipedia/$100 laptop alliance, Wikiversity, Wikiwyg Well, that's the long-term plan of Wikipedia ac Subbiah Arunachalam wrote: Why should we not have a free copy of Wikipedia in all low-cost computers meant for individuals, schools and other public access centres in the rural areas of developing countries? Arun - Original Message - From: Andy Carvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Digital Divide Network discussion group [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 7:31 PM Subject: [DDN] Jimmy Wales announces Wikipedia/$100 laptop alliance, Wikiversity, Wikiwyg Today at the second annual Wikimania conference, Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales announced that MIT's $100 laptops will all include a copy of Wikipedia. He also announced the launch of Wikiversity, an online community for generating learning materials, and Wikiwyg, a easy-to-use interface for editing Wikipedia, developed in conjunction with SocialText. More here: http://www.andycarvin.com/archives/2006/08/jimmy_wales_announce.html -- -- Andy Carvin acarvin (at) edc . org andycarvin (at) yahoo . com http://www.andycarvin.com http://www.digitaldivide.net http://www.pbs.org/learningnow -- ___ DIGITALDIVIDE mailing list DIGITALDIVIDE@mailman.edc.org http://mailman.edc.org/mailman/listinfo/digitaldivide To unsubscribe, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message. -- -- Andy Carvin acarvin (at) edc . org andycarvin (at) yahoo . com http://www.andycarvin.com http://www.digitaldivide.net http://www.pbs.org/learningnow -- ___ DIGITALDIVIDE mailing list DIGITALDIVIDE@mailman.edc.org http://mailman.edc.org/mailman/listinfo/digitaldivide To unsubscribe, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message.
Re: [DDN] Jimmy Wales announces Wikipedia/$100 laptop alliance, Wikiversity, Wikiwyg
Well, that's the long-term plan of Wikipedia ac Subbiah Arunachalam wrote: Why should we not have a free copy of Wikipedia in all low-cost computers meant for individuals, schools and other public access centres in the rural areas of developing countries? Arun - Original Message - From: Andy Carvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Digital Divide Network discussion group [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 7:31 PM Subject: [DDN] Jimmy Wales announces Wikipedia/$100 laptop alliance, Wikiversity, Wikiwyg Today at the second annual Wikimania conference, Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales announced that MIT's $100 laptops will all include a copy of Wikipedia. He also announced the launch of Wikiversity, an online community for generating learning materials, and Wikiwyg, a easy-to-use interface for editing Wikipedia, developed in conjunction with SocialText. More here: http://www.andycarvin.com/archives/2006/08/jimmy_wales_announce.html -- -- Andy Carvin acarvin (at) edc . org andycarvin (at) yahoo . com http://www.andycarvin.com http://www.digitaldivide.net http://www.pbs.org/learningnow -- ___ DIGITALDIVIDE mailing list DIGITALDIVIDE@mailman.edc.org http://mailman.edc.org/mailman/listinfo/digitaldivide To unsubscribe, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message. -- -- Andy Carvin acarvin (at) edc . org andycarvin (at) yahoo . com http://www.andycarvin.com http://www.digitaldivide.net http://www.pbs.org/learningnow -- ___ DIGITALDIVIDE mailing list DIGITALDIVIDE@mailman.edc.org http://mailman.edc.org/mailman/listinfo/digitaldivide To unsubscribe, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message.
[DDN] Jimmy Wales announces Wikipedia/$100 laptop alliance, Wikiversity, Wikiwyg
Today at the second annual Wikimania conference, Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales announced that MIT's $100 laptops will all include a copy of Wikipedia. He also announced the launch of Wikiversity, an online community for generating learning materials, and Wikiwyg, a easy-to-use interface for editing Wikipedia, developed in conjunction with SocialText. More here: http://www.andycarvin.com/archives/2006/08/jimmy_wales_announce.html -- -- Andy Carvin acarvin (at) edc . org andycarvin (at) yahoo . com http://www.andycarvin.com http://www.digitaldivide.net http://www.pbs.org/learningnow -- ___ DIGITALDIVIDE mailing list DIGITALDIVIDE@mailman.edc.org http://mailman.edc.org/mailman/listinfo/digitaldivide To unsubscribe, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message.
Re: [DDN] Jimmy Wales announces Wikipedia/$100 laptop alliance, Wikiversity, Wikiwyg
I've posted more info about his presentation, including my notes and a podcast. Notes: http://www.andycarvin.com/archives/2006/08/notes_from_jimmy_wal.html Podcast: http://www.andycarvin.com/archives/2006/08/podcast_of_jimmy_wal.html Andy Carvin wrote: Today at the second annual Wikimania conference, Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales announced that MIT's $100 laptops will all include a copy of Wikipedia. He also announced the launch of Wikiversity, an online community for generating learning materials, and Wikiwyg, a easy-to-use interface for editing Wikipedia, developed in conjunction with SocialText. More here: http://www.andycarvin.com/archives/2006/08/jimmy_wales_announce.html -- -- Andy Carvin acarvin (at) edc . org andycarvin (at) yahoo . com http://www.andycarvin.com http://www.digitaldivide.net http://www.pbs.org/learningnow -- ___ DIGITALDIVIDE mailing list DIGITALDIVIDE@mailman.edc.org http://mailman.edc.org/mailman/listinfo/digitaldivide To unsubscribe, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message.