Re: [digitalradio] Re: How does one get started with pskmail?
Then, you need to decide which PSKMAIL SERVER you think will be best for the current conditions, there is a list of servers on their Wiki. Place the callsign of the server on the configure area where you placed your callsign. You can ping on the frequency to hear which servers are available. Like every web page the actual list of servers can be downloaded with the client. Actually, the client automatically draws a list of servers which hear you. Every time you send a position beacon, the servers hearing you without error will send a QSL. As the APRS posit beacon is quite long, you can be sure the servers QSL'ing can hear you reasonably well. After you are configured, with rig on, FLDIGI booted and with the correct mode selected (usually PSK250) you click on the CONNECT button in jPSKMAIL and your rig will transmit a short burst of PSK250. If you are detected by the server, it will answer you. If you here the answer well enough, you will see the word CONNECTED. It is once connected that you can do most things, about the only thing you can do without being conncted is send a ping or report your postion APRS-style. There are a lot more goodies Pskmail is fully APRS compatible, and that works without being connected. You can send messages to other pskmail stations just by saying 'K3UK This is a message ENTER The client will send this message and every server hearing it will transfer it to the APRS backbone on the internet. So wherever K3UK is listening, VHF, HF or internet (XASTIR), the message will be delivered. On HF only the server you are linked to will deliver the message, so preventing chaos. Findu.com has a web page allowing sending messages from internet to APRS, this works as well, and you will receive the message from the server you are linked to. It is also easy to send a short email from pskmail without being connected: Just write 'em...@address this is another message ENTER' no need to be connected, every server picking this up will send the message to the internet. You can also send a tweet via twitter to the pskmail twitter channel. Enter your message and push the 'send tweet' button from the Twitter menu. Again, no need to connect... For all unconnected (unproto) traffic, just repeat a few times if no server picks it up Lots of stuff to play with, and it really starts to be fun when there are several servers on a frequency like in EU... 73, Rein PA0R -- http://pa0r.blogspirit.com Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Pages at http://www.obriensweb.com/sked Recommended digital mode software: Winwarbler, FLDIGI, DM780, or Multipsk Logging Software: DXKeeper or Ham Radio Deluxe. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:digitalradio-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: digitalradio-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[digitalradio] Excellent MARS Frequencies
Please see http://lowcountry-listening-post.blogspot.com/2009/04/mars-frequencies.html For a good utility frequency list .
[digitalradio] Re: PSK REPORTER: Not making sense
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, obrienaj aobri...@... wrote: I've raised this before, but I still find the syntax at PSK Reporter awfully confusing. Perhaps I am just stupid. Example. Currently I am on the PSK Reporter page, I have it set for On 80 meters show signal sent by the callsign K3UK using all modes over the last 30 minutes When I click go I get a map of several stations in the USA. presumaley monitors stations. Should not the search parameters result in just signal that K3UK has heard? Also, what does sent mean versus receive ? If I receive a signal, am I not SENDING a report on what I received ? A signal is sent by a transmitter and received by a receiver. Maybe I should change the word 'signal' to 'transmission'. Would that make it clearer. I should probably also improve the 'legend' to make it clear that large balloons are receivers and the small balloons are transmitters. One of the confusions is what happens when there are no signals that match the search query. In this case, you get to see which receivers are currently active. This could be what is causing the confusion. I understand how all of this works, but I am acutely aware that other people's mental model of what is going on could be entirely different. My goal is to make the model clear Philip
[digitalradio] PSKmail Server on 20m
My PSKmail server is on 14114 on my dial. Russell 1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door! 2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have. - Thomas Jefferson IN GOD WE TRUST Russell Blair (NC5O) Skype-Russell.Blair Hell Field #300 DRCC #55 30m Dig-group #693
RE: [digitalradio] PSKmail Server on 20m
I am listening on 14.114 but see nothing as of yet Fred VE3FAL -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Russell Blair Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 10:27 AM To: Digital Radio Subject: [digitalradio] PSKmail Server on 20m My PSKmail server is on 14114 on my dial. Russell 1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door! 2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have. - Thomas Jefferson IN GOD WE TRUST Russell Blair (NC5O) Skype-Russell.Blair Hell Field #300 DRCC #55 30m Dig-group #693 Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Pages at http://www.obriensweb.com/sked Recommended digital mode software: Winwarbler, FLDIGI, DM780, or Multipsk Logging Software: DXKeeper or Ham Radio Deluxe. Yahoo! Groups Links
RE: [digitalradio] PSKmail Server on 20m
Fred, the server will ID at the top of the hour and 15,30,45 min fater the hour PSK250, now that 14.114 on my dial it maybe +/- on your dial. Russell NC5O 1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door! 2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have. - Thomas Jefferson IN GOD WE TRUST Russell Blair (NC5O) Skype-Russell.Blair Hell Field #300 DRCC #55 30m Dig-group #693 --- On Thu, 10/8/09, Fred VE3FAL flesn...@tbaytel.net wrote: From: Fred VE3FAL flesn...@tbaytel.net Subject: RE: [digitalradio] PSKmail Server on 20m To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, October 8, 2009, 10:12 AM I am listening on 14.114 but see nothing as of yet Fred VE3FAL -Original Message- From: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Russell Blair Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 10:27 AM To: Digital Radio Subject: [digitalradio] PSKmail Server on 20m My PSKmail server is on 14114 on my dial. Russell 1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door! 2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have. - Thomas Jefferson IN GOD WE TRUST Russell Blair (NC5O) Skype-Russell. Blair Hell Field #300 DRCC #55 30m Dig-group #693 - - -- Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Pages at http://www.obriensw eb.com/sked Recommended digital mode software: Winwarbler, FLDIGI, DM780, or Multipsk Logging Software: DXKeeper or Ham Radio Deluxe. Yahoo! Groups Links
[digitalradio] PSKmail Server on 80m
KF4WBS, has a PSKmail server on 3.588, this server can handle multi mode using RSID give him a try when the other bands are gone, it's up most of the time, for my server on 20m we have some bad weather comming in before I get home from work so it comming down. Russell NC5O 1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door! 2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have. - Thomas Jefferson IN GOD WE TRUST Russell Blair (NC5O) Skype-Russell.Blair Hell Field #300 DRCC #55 30m Dig-group #693
Re: [digitalradio] Re: How does one get started with pskmail?
Hi Gang, All this talk about PSKMail piqued my interest, so last night I installed the PSKMail java client. I had no luck contacting any of the servers listed on http://pskmail.wikispaces.com/PSKmailservers I tried the ping command, and I guess no servers were on 10.148 that could hear me. I have one question: what are most of you PSK Mail users using for email accounts? Gmail account work well with this? It looks to me like when you UPDATE YOUR RECORD it is going to send your email account info (and password) over the air in clear text? Is anyone concerned about this? Just wondering if there is a more secure option to get the account info into the system (using the internet). Looks like a very cool project, and I look forward to trying it out! Thanks. -Josh KD7PAJ Shoreline, WA
[digitalradio] Re: How does one get started with pskmail?
It looks to me like when you UPDATE YOUR RECORD it is going to send your email account info (and password) over the air in clear text? Is anyone concerned about this? Just wondering if there is a more secure option to get the account info into the system (using the internet). Looks like a very cool project, and I look forward to trying it out! Thanks. -Josh KD7PAJ Shoreline, WA Josh, this is a very good point. The password info when you type it in is not disguised () , so yes... someone could get you password if it is in the clear. I was not looking when it sent mine, so I am not sure how open it was. Try WB5CON, that has been the easiest for me. Andy K3UK
Re: [digitalradio] Re: How does one get started with pskmail?
Andy: I keep getting an error about my coordinates, mostly latitude, I looked at the example and it is the same way but the error still keeps popping up... I am monitoring 14.114 tonight Fred VE3FAL On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 22:40:40 - obrienaj aobri...@stny.rr.com wrote: It looks to me like when you UPDATE YOUR RECORD it is going to send your email account info (and password) over the air in clear text? Is anyone concerned about this? Just wondering if there is a more secure option to get the account info into the system (using the internet). Looks like a very cool project, and I look forward to trying it out! Thanks. -Josh KD7PAJ Shoreline, WA Josh, this is a very good point. The password info when you type it in is not disguised () , so yes... someone could get you password if it is in the clear. I was not looking when it sent mine, so I am not sure how open it was. Try WB5CON, that has been the easiest for me. Andy K3UK Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Pages at http://www.obriensweb.com/sked Recommended digital mode software: Winwarbler, FLDIGI, DM780, or Multipsk Logging Software: DXKeeper or Ham Radio Deluxe. Yahoo! Groups Links
[digitalradio] Re: How does one get started with pskmail?
Fred, I stuck my Lon/LAT in without issues, from the config file it was stored as entry key=LATITUDE42.4263/entry entry key=LONGITUDE-079.3388/entry Maybe Thunder By is just too far north! Andy K3UK --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, VE3FAL-Fred flesn...@... wrote: Andy: I keep getting an error about my coordinates, mostly latitude, I looked at the example and it is the same way but the error still keeps popping up... I am monitoring 14.114 tonight Fred VE3FAL On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 22:40:40 - obrienaj aobri...@... wrote: It looks to me like when you UPDATE YOUR RECORD it is going to send your email account info (and password) over the air in clear text? Is anyone concerned about this? Just wondering if there is a more secure option to get the account info into the system (using the internet). Looks like a very cool project, and I look forward to trying it out! Thanks. -Josh KD7PAJ Shoreline, WA Josh, this is a very good point. The password info when you type it in is not disguised () , so yes... someone could get you password if it is in the clear. I was not looking when it sent mine, so I am not sure how open it was. Try WB5CON, that has been the easiest for me. Andy K3UK Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Pages at http://www.obriensweb.com/sked Recommended digital mode software: Winwarbler, FLDIGI, DM780, or Multipsk Logging Software: DXKeeper or Ham Radio Deluxe. Yahoo! Groups Links
[digitalradio] KF4WBS Scanning PSKMAIL Server ?
The link to the frequencies (on the PSKMAIL Wiki) does not work. ANyone know what time of the hour KF4WBS is on 3588? I can't raise him but did copy LOUD mail transfer at one time, using DominoEX. Andy K3UK
Re: [digitalradio] KF4WBS Scanning PSKMAIL Server ?
Andy, try this (http://pskmail.wikispaces.com) and look down the list for pskmail servers...I was just there. at the bottom fo the servers you can find KF4WBS if you can link to this web site the he at home.. Russell 1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door! 2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have. - Thomas Jefferson IN GOD WE TRUST Russell Blair (NC5O) Skype-Russell.Blair Hell Field #300 DRCC #55 30m Dig-group #693 --- On Thu, 10/8/09, obrienaj aobri...@stny.rr.com wrote: From: obrienaj aobri...@stny.rr.com Subject: [digitalradio] KF4WBS Scanning PSKMAIL Server ? To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, October 8, 2009, 7:32 PM The link to the frequencies (on the PSKMAIL Wiki) does not work. ANyone know what time of the hour KF4WBS is on 3588? I can't raise him but did copy LOUD mail transfer at one time, using DominoEX. Andy K3UK
Re: [digitalradio] KF4WBS Scanning PSKMAIL Server ?
Andy I call mike, and he bringing his server on line now. 3588. Andy if you have SKYPE call him @ (KF4WBS) Russell 1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door! 2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have. - Thomas Jefferson IN GOD WE TRUST Russell Blair (NC5O) Skype-Russell.Blair Hell Field #300 DRCC #55 30m Dig-group #693 --- On Thu, 10/8/09, obrienaj aobri...@stny.rr.com wrote: From: obrienaj aobri...@stny.rr.com Subject: [digitalradio] KF4WBS Scanning PSKMAIL Server ? To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, October 8, 2009, 7:32 PM The link to the frequencies (on the PSKMAIL Wiki) does not work. ANyone know what time of the hour KF4WBS is on 3588? I can't raise him but did copy LOUD mail transfer at one time, using DominoEX. Andy K3UK
[digitalradio] 30M PSK31
A reminder folks, 30M is a great band for PSK31 QSOs. Lots of DX is the late afternoons. Don't forget PSK31 , still a great digital mode. Andy K3UK
[digitalradio] QRV 3587 USB WINMOR AND Multipsk Radio Mail overnight
I will be QRV on 3587 USB for BOTH WINMOR and RADIO MAIL in Multipsk ALE400 FAE overnight. It has been a while since I did radio mail in MUltipsk, so not sure if I have it set correct or not. Try a conenct on either mode, since both modes use the spectrum for jist a few minutes while passing traffic, I figured that I can use the same frequency, LISTEN first. FYI, I am using ONE rig and ONE PC but also using Microham device router that enables me to control two applications and two PTT ports via my Microkeyer interface. Andy K3UK
[digitalradio] PSKmail server on 3.588 via KF4WBS David Gray
He on SKYPE as KF4WBS he knows a lot about PSKmail server and how it works. Russell 1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door! 2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have. - Thomas Jefferson IN GOD WE TRUST Russell Blair (NC5O) Skype-Russell.Blair Hell Field #300 DRCC #55 30m Dig-group #693
[digitalradio] Re: How does one get started with pskmail?
Josh, Welcome to Pskmail. No, the email details you send to the server are NOT send in clear text for obvious reasons. They are packed into a block and sent as a record to the server which deciphers the block back into normal characters. And yes Gmail can be used as well. I tested it myself. Have fun, 73s, John (VK2ETA) --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Josh Gibbs gibb...@... wrote: Hi Gang, All this talk about PSKMail piqued my interest, so last night I installed the PSKMail java client. I had no luck contacting any of the servers listed on http://pskmail.wikispaces.com/PSKmailservers I tried the ping command, and I guess no servers were on 10.148 that could hear me. I have one question: what are most of you PSK Mail users using for email accounts? Gmail account work well with this? It looks to me like when you UPDATE YOUR RECORD it is going to send your email account info (and password) over the air in clear text? Is anyone concerned about this? Just wondering if there is a more secure option to get the account info into the system (using the internet). Looks like a very cool project, and I look forward to trying it out! Thanks. -Josh KD7PAJ Shoreline, WA
[digitalradio] ALE400
On 14093 as of 0400UTC , here until 1500 or later. please try a connect John VE5MU
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Warren - How does THOR compare with DominoEX and Olivia?
Tony, Is there a case where THOR4 has better copy than Olivia 8/250? Warren - K5WGM Warren, That's another good question, they both handle mild selective fading about the same, but there are vast differences in performance between the two when testing under more severe HF path conditions. THOR and Olivia, are both MFSK modes that have nearly identical minimum signal-to-noise ratios so they should work line-of-sight down to their minimum decode threshold. But once HF path distortion is introduced, things change quickly. The mode that passes the highest percentage of error-free throughput is the better mode for that path. In the case of Olivia / Thor, the score was 100% Olivia vs.. zero for THOR. The THOR mode, like many others, tend to fall apart under severe path distortion found on signals passing through the polar ionosphere and near the equator where Spread-F conditions cause similar diffuse conditions. In the case of THORN / Olivia 8/250 the simulator says Olivia is the better mode for the most sever conditions. With that said, there are so many variables involved with the real ionosphere that their could be a set of circumstances where one mode wins out over the other unexpectedly. This is where experimentation comes in so please pass along your findings Warren. Tony -K2MO From: Warren Moxley k5...@yahoo.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 6:59 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Warren - How does THOR compare with DominoEX and Olivia? Tony, Thanks ! Is there a case where THOR4 has better copy than Olivia 8/250? Warren - K5WGM --- On Sun, 10/4/09, Tony d...@optonline.net wrote: From: Tony d...@optonline.net Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Warren - How does THOR compare with DominoEX and Olivia? To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, October 4, 2009, 4:30 AM Warren, I had my 1st THOR4 contact the other day on 30meters. It is very good at very weak signals and a lot of noise. How do you compare it with DominoEX and Olivia? Warren - K5WGM That's a good question and I took some time to run each mode through the HF path simulator. I tried to get the bandwidth / word-per-minute rates as close as possible for an apples-to-apples comparison. The wpm rates are approximate. Test #1 In this test, we determined the lowest signal-to-noise ratio possible for each mode (no HF path distortion) SNR @ 3KHz BW. THOR4 14 wpm 173Hz BW -14db SNR OLIVIA 2/125 12wpm 125Hz BW -15db SNR OLIVIA 8/250 17wpm 250Hz BW -15db SNR DominoEX-4 27wpm* 173Hz BW -15db SIR *Slowest DominoEx mode 27wpm. In this test, all modes were tested with a moderate high-latitude (polar ionosphere) disturbance. The SNR was increased to -8bd; 7db above the minimum SNR. THOR4 NO COPY OLIVIA 1/125 100% COPY OLIVIA 8/250 100% COPY DominoEX-4 NO COPY Selective fade test - the type of slow and deep selective fading found on many paths. Same -8db SNR. THOR4 100% COPY OLIVIA 2/125 100% COPY OLIVIA 8/250 100% COPY DominoEX-4 75% COPY Conclusion: The high-latitude simulation was too much for both THOR and Dominio-EX4 which is an indication that they would most likely have difficulty with moderately disturbed polar ionosphere. Both show an intolerance to frequency spreading fouund on these paths. In the selective fade test which emulates notch attenuation sweeping across the spectrum, THOR and OLIVIA did well while DominioEX-4 showed signs of failure indicating this might not be the best mode when selective fading is present. It seems to me that since all 4 modes have nearly the same sensitivity, it would be difficult to tell the difference between them on a stable HF channel. The DominoEX4 mode that did poorly on disturbed paths would be the better choice during quite conditions since it moves along at a much faster 27 wpm. It all depends on conditions at hand. Tony -K2MO
