Re: [digitalradio] Licensing of Pactor modes - Source code and detailed specifications

2007-12-31 Thread Simon Brown
- Original Message - 
From: f6cte [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 However, you can directly use the code without understand it but it is
 not the way I do because it is without interest.

One main reason why PSK became so popular was that source code was made 
available early on. Many have implemented PSK31 using Moe's PSKCore DLL 
without fully understanding how it works. Making source available will 
increase the probability of the mode being adopted by other developers.

Myself I have used a lot of code from fldigi in my own software, currently I 
am adding SSTV using another open source project as the basis of the SSTV 
decoding.

There is so much work involved in writing a fool-proof program with a good 
user interface that having to also write the encoding / decoding interface 
would make sure projects unfeasible for a single programmer who codes in his 
spare time.

Simon HB9DRV 



Re: [digitalradio] Licensing of Pactor modes - Source code and detailed specifications

2007-12-31 Thread Rein Couperus

 
 There is so much work involved in writing a fool-proof program with a good 
 user interface that having to also write the encoding / decoding interface 
 would make sure projects unfeasible for a single programmer who codes in his 
 spare time.
 
 Simon HB9DRV 
 


I can second that :)

Rein PA0R

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[digitalradio] Licensing of Pactor modes - Source code and detailed specifications

2007-12-30 Thread f6cte
Hello Demetre and all,

 writers who although they allow everyone to use their program, they
 keep their code to themselves. Of course it is everyone's right to
 protect their code and I do not blame anyone here, I am just stating a
 fact.

As I belong to this category (Multipsk author), here is my opinion 
about that.

The source code is good but it is much better to have the detailed 
specifications. When I have only the source code, it is an ordeal to 
reverse engineers the detailed specifications from the source code. Do 
you imagine, if you have 10 lines of code, the amount of work it is 
to extract what it is important...
However, you can directly use the code without understand it but it is 
not the way I do because it is without interest.

So my philosophy is to supply detailed specifications to give 
possibility for others to be able to program their own decoding 
application. It's what I have ever done (included for ARQ FAE). 
Moreover, I think it is moral that a programmer has to do a bit of work 
to decode a mode.

I saw that a professional decoder decodes some of my modes simply with 
my published specifications. And I'm quite sure that if I had published 
the source code but not the specifications, he would not have decoded 
those modes.

So in conlusion, PSE don't keep on thinking that, naturally, if you 
have the code you have all the necessary. It is a false idea.

73
Patrick  

Note: in Pactor 1, you have detailed specifications...this mode can be 
decoded and I've done it (however, for an pure ARQ mode, there are some 
lacks).
In Pactor 2 and 3: you have general specifications but not the detailed 
ones, so these modes can't be decoded.