[digitalradio] PSK500 mode

2009-10-29 Thread Russell Blair
Andy, Im running fldigi 3.13AU but I cant find PSK500 on the list where can I 
find it, for PSKmail... On my puppy mail server is working, I just completed 
testing makeing sure it can pass emails.. Now on to PSK500 mode ?

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Re: [digitalradio] PSK500 mode

2009-10-29 Thread Per
Hi Russel,

Its not on 3.13AU, there is a patched version with PSK500 but it wasnt there on 
AU from the start.
I guess AZ is the latest now and its on there (its what I run here).

73 de Per, sm0rwo







From: Russell Blair russell_blai...@yahoo.com
To: Digital Radio digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, October 29, 2009 5:22:22 PM
Subject: [digitalradio] PSK500 mode

  
Andy, Im running fldigi 3.13AU but I cant find PSK500 on the list where can I 
find it, for PSKmail... On my puppy mail server is working, I just completed 
testing makeing sure it can pass emails.. Now on to PSK500 mode ?

Russell
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2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to 
take everything you have. 
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Re: [digitalradio] PSK500 mode

2009-10-29 Thread Russell Blair
Tnx Per well 3.13AU is whats in my puppy mail CD. Ok thanks for the info.

Russell
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From: Per n59...@yahoo.com
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, October 29, 2009 12:38:05 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] PSK500 mode

  
Hi Russel,

Its not on 3.13AU, there is a patched version with PSK500 but it wasnt there on 
AU from the start.
I guess AZ is the latest now and its on there (its what I run here).

73 de Per, sm0rwo







From: Russell Blair russell_blair86@ yahoo.com
To: Digital Radio digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thu, October 29, 2009 5:22:22 PM
Subject: [digitalradio] PSK500 mode

  
Andy, Im running fldigi 3.13AU but I cant find PSK500 on the list where can I 
find it, for PSKmail... On my puppy mail server is working, I just completed 
testing makeing sure it can pass emails.. Now on to PSK500 mode ?

Russell
 1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door!
2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to 
take everything you have. 
- Thomas Jefferson 

 IN GOD WE TRUST  

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[digitalradio] PSK500 testing

2009-10-26 Thread obrienaj
I am active with a PSKMAIL server on 10147 (dial, 10148 center frequency) 
testing PSK500 with RSID.  If you send an RS ID I should change at my end and 
allow you to connect  at PSK500

K3UK



[digitalradio] PSK500

2009-10-24 Thread obrienaj
So, where are people using PSK500, on VHF ?  Is it mainly for message transfers?

Andy K3UK




Re: [digitalradio] PSK500

2009-10-24 Thread Rein Couperus
I am testing PSK500 on HF at the moment. It fits nicely in a 500 Hz filter, and 
is 
lightning fast on a clean link... 

I can see it used only for arq message transfer, with automatic fallback to 
slower speeds and 
bandwidth...

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 So, where are people using PSK500, on VHF ?  Is it mainly for message 
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Re: [digitalradio] PSK500

2009-10-24 Thread Andy obrien
Thanks Rein.  Is there a PSK2700 ?   That would certainly get Peter
Martinez's eyes rolling.



Andy K3UK


On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 7:51 AM, Rein Couperus r...@couperus.com wrote:
 I am testing PSK500 on HF at the moment. It fits nicely in a 500 Hz filter, 
 and is
 lightning fast on a clean link...

 I can see it used only for arq message transfer, with automatic fallback to 
 slower speeds and
 bandwidth...

 Rein PA0R



Re: [digitalradio] PSK500 **Minimum SNR - Fast vrs. Slow PSK Modes**

2009-10-24 Thread Tony
Andy, 

 Thanks Rein.  Is there a PSK2700 ?   That would certainly get Peter 
 Martinez's eyes 
 rolling.

I agree, he would roll his eyes but the throughput would be lightening fast! I 
tried to get Mixw to run at very high speeds a while back just to see if it 
would work. It did, but it seems to stop printing at PSK625. 

The path simulator indicated that the minimum signal-to-noise threshold 
increased by roughly 3db each time the word-per-minute / baud rate was doubled 
(see below).  

It would be interesting to test PSK63 vs. PSK625 on VHF to see if that wide 
10db difference shows on-air. It should take 10 times the power to maintain the 
same throughput according to the simularor. Difficult to prove on HF with all 
the variables; bandwidth is 2K-plus. 

 
Mode  Minimum SNR

PSK31. -10db
PSK63-7db 
PSK125..-4db 
PSK250..-2db
PSK500.+2db
PSK625.+3db

Tony -K2MO


Re: [digitalradio] PSK500 **Minimum SNR - Fast vrs. Slow PSK Modes**

2009-10-24 Thread Dave Sparks
If you go much above a 2 Khz bandwidth, you're going to start ruling out a 
lot of rigs that don't have the audio bandwidth to pass that wide of a 
signal.  I wonder how PSK 2000 would compare with esisting modes, such as 
Olivia 32/2000 and MT63 at 2 Khz bandwidth.

BTW, your figures seem to indicate that the product of gain times bandwidth 
is roughly a constant in an entire HF system,  just as it is in a transistor 
amplifier.

---
Dave Sparks
AF6AS

- Original Message - 
From: Tony
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 4:36 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] PSK500 **Minimum SNR - Fast vrs. Slow PSK 
Modes**





Andy,

 Thanks Rein.  Is there a PSK2700 ?   That would certainly get Peter 
 Martinez's eyes
 rolling.

I agree, he would roll his eyes but the throughput would be lightening fast! 
I tried to get Mixw to run at very high speeds a while back just to see if 
it would work. It did, but it seems to stop printing at PSK625.

The path simulator indicated that the minimum signal-to-noise threshold 
increased by roughly 3db each time the word-per-minute / baud rate was 
doubled (see below).

It would be interesting to test PSK63 vs. PSK625 on VHF to see if that wide 
10db difference shows on-air. It should take 10 times the power to maintain 
the same throughput according to the simularor. Difficult to prove on HF 
with all the variables; bandwidth is 2K-plus.


Mode  Minimum SNR

PSK31. -10db
PSK63-7db
PSK125..-4db
PSK250..-2db
PSK500.+2db
PSK625.+3db

Tony -K2MO 



Re: [digitalradio] PSK500 **Minimum SNR - Fast vrs. Slow PSK Modes**

2009-10-24 Thread Dave Sparks

- Original Message - 
From: Dave Sparks dspa...@pobox.com
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] PSK500 **Minimum SNR - Fast vrs. Slow PSK 
Modes**


 If you go much above a 2 Khz bandwidth, you're going to start ruling out a
 lot of rigs that don't have the audio bandwidth to pass that wide of a
 signal.  I wonder how PSK 2000 would compare with esisting modes, such as
 Olivia 32/2000 and MT63 at 2 Khz bandwidth.

 BTW, your figures seem to indicate that the product of gain times 
 bandwidth
 is roughly a constant in an entire HF system,  just as it is in a 
 transistor
 amplifier.

I should hame mentioned Olivia 64/2000, instead.  I seem to remember that 
FLARQ won't work with Olivia for some reason, but I'm not sure about 
jPSKmail.

Reading the specs on these modes, they actually sound a lot like spread 
spectrum.

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AF6AS
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