[digitalradio] Unattended Re: USA Novice-Tech operations on 10M?

2009-11-05 Thread expeditionradio



 Phil Williams ka1...@... wrote: 
 Who can talk about what they have seen when 
 it comes to best practices when
 operating an unatteneded on the HF bands? 

Hi Phil,

Unattended operation of ham stations isn't 
appropriate to describe  HF operating methods 
in USA, as far as I am aware of it.

However, unattended is a description used 
within the IARU bandplans for certain segments 
of bands. The term is not very well-defined, but 
the IARU Region 1 bandplan committee started using 
it some years ago, and it has somehow been carried 
over to other bandplans, without much explanation.

A licensed operator in USA must always be in control 
of the station, attending to it to be sure it 
complies with the rules. There are many means that 
can be used by the licensed operator to control the 
station and keep it in compliance with FCC rules, 
including: manual, remote, and several automatic 
types of control of operation. There is a long 
history of automatic control for various types of 
stations, including repeaters, telemetry, data, and 
beacons. The first automatic data stations on HF 
were probably RTTY autostart stations... then later 
on the APRS and Packet systems. Today, we have many 
many different types of automatically controlled 
HF stations on the air. There is something happening 
with an HF automatically controlled data station, 
every few minutes, every day on every HF band. The 
automatically controlled data networks form the most 
dependable emergency HF systems that ham radio has 
developed so far. 

73 Bonnie VR2/KQ6XA



Re: [digitalradio] Unattended Re: USA Novice-Tech operations on 10M?

2009-11-05 Thread Andy obrien
Thanks Bonnie, what about the concept of listen first and making sure the
frequency is not occupied?   Is there any USA exclusion from this
requirement?  If I us a timer on my rig to send my call sign over the air
and simply say K3UK  once an hour, are there any segments I can  do this
without having to listen first ?  Can a packet station like Propnet transmit
without a listen first concept?  Perhaps not under 30 Mhz ?



Andy K3UK


On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 1:35 PM, expeditionradio
expeditionra...@yahoo.comwrote:





  Phil Williams ka1...@... wrote:
  Who can talk about what they have seen when
  it comes to best practices when
  operating an unatteneded on the HF bands?

 Hi Phil,

 Unattended operation of ham stations isn't
 appropriate to describe HF operating methods
 in USA, as far as I am aware of it.

 However, unattended is a description used
 within the IARU bandplans for certain segments
 of bands. The term is not very well-defined, but
 the IARU Region 1 bandplan committee started using
 it some years ago, and it has somehow been carried
 over to other bandplans, without much explanation.

 A licensed operator in USA must always be in control
 of the station, attending to it to be sure it
 complies with the rules. There are many means that
 can be used by the licensed operator to control the
 station and keep it in compliance with FCC rules,
 including: manual, remote, and several automatic
 types of control of operation. There is a long
 history of automatic control for various types of
 stations, including repeaters, telemetry, data, and
 beacons. The first automatic data stations on HF
 were probably RTTY autostart stations... then later
 on the APRS and Packet systems. Today, we have many
 many different types of automatically controlled
 HF stations on the air. There is something happening
 with an HF automatically controlled data station,
 every few minutes, every day on every HF band. The
 automatically controlled data networks form the most
 dependable emergency HF systems that ham radio has
 developed so far.

 73 Bonnie VR2/KQ6XA