Re: [digitalradio] dumb terminal software for packet

2008-07-05 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello,

Multipsk can also be used for a sound-card terminal for Packet (with many 
other possibilities).
But you can also use AGW Packet engine (and of course Mixw).

73
Patrick

- Original Message - 
From: John Becker, WØJAB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 6:41 AM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] dumb terminal software for packet


 Mixw is a bit of a overkill with all it's garbage for a terminal program
 to operate a PK232MBX TNC.

 I still have been using YAPP even if it's just a DOS program some
 25 years old now.



 At 02:07 PM 7/4/2008, you wrote:
I use MixW.  Takes a bit to set up, but you can get it to work just the 
way you want with macros.











 

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Re: [digitalradio] dumb terminal software for packet

2008-07-05 Thread Jose A. Amador

Even when I have been away from packet for some time after being a sysop
for some twelve years, I have the feeling, but still not the certainty
that having MultiPSK to serve as a transparent dumb modem also would be
a good thing.

Creating a good packet terminal is not trivial, I used FBB for years
since version 5.13 and I don't see the need to duplicate the job that
Jean Paul Roubelat did. Maybe it still would accept improvements, but I
don't see much room for that. It is a job well done and hard to improve
when all bases seem well covered.

I used pure packet for some six years using BPQ or the Linux AX.25
engine, until I began using a PTC-II and after seeing what it does I
just quit HF packet, Pactor II being better by far, just by having a
more reliable transfer mechanism than classic packet. I was using FBB,
as JNOS 1.11 did not handle the PTC back then.

MultiPSK has a suite of modes that could still be useful and unique on
HF, and particularly, I like PAX for that, and maybe ALE 400 as
modulation / ARQ scheme could be useful too. Maybe others with a full
alphabet (required for compressed forwarding) could be useful. I really 
have not though much about the tiny details.

I am not sure about the situation beyond my area, but I certainly do
miss HF BBS's, as I had a fruitful and nice experience after all those
years.

Maybe I need some people to excuse me, but I never liked AGW, perhaps I
never did understand it well. I never used extra features of MixW, more
interested in its sound card modes, but they never meant an obstacle either.

I did use TeraTerm 2.3 and did like it too.

I don't know if others could agree with me, I am aware it is not too
easy to do, but maybe Patrick could do some research into making it
available as a dumb terminal using TCP/IP, KISS or host mode. Just
daydreaming by now, but, who knows? I am already used to get nice 
surprises from MultiPSK.

73,

Jose, CO2JA

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Patrick Lindecker wrote:

 Hello,
 
 Multipsk can also be used for a sound-card terminal for Packet (with
 many other possibilities). But you can also use AGW Packet engine
 (and of course Mixw).
 
 73 Patrick





Re: *****SPAM***** Re: [digitalradio] dumb terminal software for packet

2008-07-05 Thread Bill Ayer
Alan,

Of course that goes away if you purchase the license.  I enjoy the ability to 
go from soundcard modes to the TNC within the same program.

Logger32 freeware has a terminal window that that works great but with fewer 
soundcard modes. Certainly worth checking out for all it's great features.

Bill
- Original Message - 
  From: Alan Jones 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 6:57 PM
  Subject: *SPAM* Re: [digitalradio] dumb terminal software for packet


  Bill Ayer wrote:
   
   
   I use MixW. Takes a bit to set up, but you can get it to work just the 
   way you want with macros.
   
   
   - Original Message -
   *From:* Alan Jones mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   *To:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
   mailto:digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
   *Sent:* Friday, July 04, 2008 11:09 AM
   *Subject:* [digitalradio] dumb terminal software for packet
   
   Can someone on the list recommend a good terminal program that I can
   use
   with my AEA PK-232MBX TNC? Currently I am using HyperTerminal version
   5.1. I don't like the annoying window box at the bottom of the screen.
   All I need is a basic dumb terminal. I have tried several terminal
   programs written specifically for packet but I am not impressed. I
   really don't want a fancy interface. All I need is the basics.
   Thanks in
   advance for any help.
   

  Hi Bill,
  I used MixW briefly for a while but I didn't really know much about it. 
  The reason I quit using it was because of the not registered time 
  delay whenever I switched modes.

  Alan
  -- 
  W8OAJ - Chaplain (CPT) O. Alan Jones, USAR - Fort Bliss, TX
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[digitalradio] dumb terminal software for packet

2008-07-04 Thread Alan Jones
Can someone on the list recommend a good terminal program that I can use 
with my AEA PK-232MBX TNC? Currently I am using HyperTerminal version 
5.1. I don't like the annoying window box at the bottom of the screen. 
All I need is a basic dumb terminal. I have tried several terminal 
programs written specifically for packet but I am not impressed. I 
really don't want a fancy interface. All I need is the basics. Thanks in 
advance for any help.

-- 
W8OAJ - Chaplain (CPT) O. Alan Jones, USAR - Fort Bliss, TX
http://exwn8jef.googlepages.com/home
http://w8oaj.blogspot.com



RE: [digitalradio] dumb terminal software for packet

2008-07-04 Thread Matt Ashe
Hello Alan,

I use Tera Term Pro 2.3 with my KPC-3. Very straight forward, none of the
silliness that Hyperterm makes you go through. Do a google search on Tera
term and the first couple of hits will get you to the site to download.

Hope this helps!

73 Matt KI6NCU Tuolumne, CA


  -Original Message-
  From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Alan Jones
  Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 9:09 AM
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [digitalradio] dumb terminal software for packet


  Can someone on the list recommend a good terminal program that I can use
  with my AEA PK-232MBX TNC? Currently I am using HyperTerminal version
  5.1. I don't like the annoying window box at the bottom of the screen.
  All I need is a basic dumb terminal. I have tried several terminal
  programs written specifically for packet but I am not impressed. I
  really don't want a fancy interface. All I need is the basics. Thanks in
  advance for any help.

  --
  W8OAJ - Chaplain (CPT) O. Alan Jones, USAR - Fort Bliss, TX
  http://exwn8jef.googlepages.com/home
  http://w8oaj.blogspot.com



  


Re: [digitalradio] dumb terminal software for packet

2008-07-04 Thread Alan Jones
Matt Ashe wrote:
 
 
 Hello Alan,
  
 I use Tera Term Pro 2.3 with my KPC-3. Very straight forward, none of 
 the silliness that Hyperterm makes you go through. Do a google search on 
 Tera term and the first couple of hits will get you to the site to download.
  
 Hope this helps!
  
 73 Matt KI6NCU Tuolumne, CA
  
  
 
 -Original Message-
 *From:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of *Alan Jones
 *Sent:* Friday, July 04, 2008 9:09 AM
 *To:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject:* [digitalradio] dumb terminal software for packet
 
 Can someone on the list recommend a good terminal program that I can
 use
 with my AEA PK-232MBX TNC? Currently I am using HyperTerminal version
 5.1. I don't like the annoying window box at the bottom of the screen.
 All I need is a basic dumb terminal. I have tried several terminal
 programs written specifically for packet but I am not impressed. I
 really don't want a fancy interface. All I need is the basics.
 Thanks in
 advance for any help.
 

Matt,
Thanks! That is exactly what I was looking for!
I can now get rid of my HyperTerminal shortcut.
Tera Term works great with Win XP.
73

Alan

-- 
W8OAJ - Chaplain (CPT) O. Alan Jones, USAR - Fort Bliss, TX
http://exwn8jef.googlepages.com/home
http://w8oaj.blogspot.com



Re: [digitalradio] dumb terminal software for packet

2008-07-04 Thread Bill Ayer
I use MixW.  Takes a bit to set up, but you can get it to work just the way you 
want with macros.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Alan Jones 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 11:09 AM
  Subject: [digitalradio] dumb terminal software for packet


  Can someone on the list recommend a good terminal program that I can use 
  with my AEA PK-232MBX TNC? Currently I am using HyperTerminal version 
  5.1. I don't like the annoying window box at the bottom of the screen. 
  All I need is a basic dumb terminal. I have tried several terminal 
  programs written specifically for packet but I am not impressed. I 
  really don't want a fancy interface. All I need is the basics. Thanks in 
  advance for any help.

  -- 
  W8OAJ - Chaplain (CPT) O. Alan Jones, USAR - Fort Bliss, TX
  http://exwn8jef.googlepages.com/home
  http://w8oaj.blogspot.com



   


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Re: [digitalradio] dumb terminal software for packet

2008-07-04 Thread Alan Jones
Bill Ayer wrote:
 
 
 I use MixW.  Takes a bit to set up, but you can get it to work just the 
 way you want with macros.
  
 
 - Original Message -
 *From:* Alan Jones mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *To:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
 *Sent:* Friday, July 04, 2008 11:09 AM
 *Subject:* [digitalradio] dumb terminal software for packet
 
 Can someone on the list recommend a good terminal program that I can
 use
 with my AEA PK-232MBX TNC? Currently I am using HyperTerminal version
 5.1. I don't like the annoying window box at the bottom of the screen.
 All I need is a basic dumb terminal. I have tried several terminal
 programs written specifically for packet but I am not impressed. I
 really don't want a fancy interface. All I need is the basics.
 Thanks in
 advance for any help.
 

Hi Bill,
I used MixW briefly for a while but I didn't really know much about it. 
The reason I quit using it was because of the not registered time 
delay whenever I switched modes.

Alan
-- 
W8OAJ - Chaplain (CPT) O. Alan Jones, USAR - Fort Bliss, TX
http://exwn8jef.googlepages.com/home
http://w8oaj.blogspot.com



Re: [digitalradio] dumb terminal software for packet

2008-07-04 Thread John Becker, WØJAB
Mixw is a bit of a overkill with all it's garbage for a terminal program
to operate a PK232MBX TNC.

I still have been using YAPP even if it's just a DOS program some 
25 years old now.



At 02:07 PM 7/4/2008, you wrote:
I use MixW.  Takes a bit to set up, but you can get it to work just the way 
you want with macros.