Re: [tdf-discuss] New Tutorials website

[Florian Reisinger]

Hi Dave,

I get an error 500 when trying to access the website

Yours,

Florian

Dave <dave.ta...@gmail.com> schrieb am Mi., 15. März 2017, 13:26:

> To anyone who may be interested:
>
> Back in 2008 I "/inherited/" the Tutorials for OpenOffice
> website/project, but due other life commitments (eg. running a business,
> family, etc.) I was never able to make sufficient extra time to do
> anything with it, other than simply keeping it alive. In 2010 I
> registered the libreofficetutorials.org domain name, with the intention
> of creating a similar more extensive website/project for LibreOffice,
> "/someday/".  My life commitments have changed and that "/someday/" is
> now here.
>
> Since the early days of OOo I have presented numerous training courses,
> initially for OOo and in recent years for LO. During that time I have
> accumulated a substantial collection of training/tutorial material about
> this software. With the assistance of a small group of colleges, I have
> begun preparing content for this new tutorials website based on this
> material.
>
> The basic concept of the proposed website/project can be seen here:
> http://www.libreofficetutorials.org/
>
> This proposal is not intended to compete in any way with the content
> (eg. documentation) of the LibreOffice website. On the contrary, as part
> of the wider LibreOffice infrastructure it will be complimentary to it.
>
> While there will always be "/nay-Sayers/" who will respond to this, I
> want to hear any genuine objections to this proposal from from TDF
> members now, rather than later when more substantial content has been
> worked on.
>
> Regards
> Dave
>
>
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Re: [tdf-discuss] OOXML ECMA-376, transitionnal and strict

[Florian Reisinger]

Short answer: Any release (2007,2010,2013,2016) has it's own transitional
format. AFAIK

 schrieb am Di., 26. Apr. 2016, 10:13:

> Hello,
>
> I'm a french user willing to get some answers about OOXML format.
> This post is already released on the fr.discuss mailing list.
>
> As you may know, something changing the game just happened in France.
> The second version of the Interoperability General Refenrential was just
> released.
> It demands all the public administrations (by law) to conform to certain
> file formats when the exchanged from administration to administration or
> from a citizen to an administration and vice et versa.
>
> ODF is recommended.
>
> OOXML strict is tolerated in some case.
> OOXML transitionnal is not.
> Binary older file formats are not either.
>
> Thus, it becomes very interresting to investigate what's behind OOXML.
>
> in this article :
>
> https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/community/osor/case/complex-singularity-versus-openness
>
> 3 different OOXML formats are described :
> "There is the ECMA version (that’s the one MS Office 2007 writes, which
> was certified by ECMA International). Then there is OOXML Transitional,
> which is relatively close to the ECMA version, and is the format that all
> later versions to date write as default. Finally, there is OOXML Strict."
>
> In this MS$ tab :
>
> https://blogs.office.com/2012/08/13/new-file-format-options-in-the-new-office/#DR3YrKG0ymm0vmwB.97
> Only two OOXML formats are described : transitionnal and strict
>
> A very simple question to an OOXML specialist :
>
> Is transitionnal OOXML ECMA-376 compliant ?
>
> If not, is transitionnal OOXML compliant with any norm or standard ?
>
> Best regards and thanks in advance for any answer.
>
> M.
>
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Re: [tdf-discuss] ODF in Android

[Florian Reisinger]

Hi,

My two cents ;)
Am 28.11.2013 20:22, schrieb tk:


Eduardo Moreno  wrote:

Hi, this applications run in Android
OpenDocument Reader
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andropenoffice
This application is light

Unfortunately, you gave the url for AndrOffice, not OpenDocumentReader.
I can't cut and paste URL's on my grossly misnaned Google Experience Device, 
otherwise I'd povide it.

Nice worded



AndrOpen Office
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andropenoffice

FWIW, AndrOffice is a fork of Apache OpenOfice, but it is _not_ distributed 
under the expected Apache License, even though that is stated on one of the 
internal screens.  It is a non-libre non-open source software program.


Yep


There also is EuroOffice for Android, but it curently is text only. It also 
lacks most of the functionality found in the Write component of LibO.

There are two other office suites for Anrdroid  that edit ODF file formats, but 
they are cloud based, and offer about as much functionality as Edline.(The line 
editor in MSDos 3.0.)


I would like to point out the efforts made by LibreOffice: 
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/Android-ARM@24-Bytemark-Hosting/current/
There are 4 files: The interesting ones should be LibreOffice4Android 
and LibreOfficeExperimentalDesktop-debug. I have to admit I am not 
using those myself, but downloading both would be worth a try ;) [I do 
not know if you need one to run the other, but IMHO it is worth giving 
those DAILY builds a try ;)]




jonathon


Yours,
Florian R.


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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: AMD joins LibreOffice, adds GPU grunt to free software suite

[Florian Reisinger]

Hi Pedro


Am 10.07.2013 um 20:05 schrieb Pedro pedl...@gmail.com:

 Since Intel is also a TDF partner, do these optimizations also work on Intel
 based PCs?

 Can anyone comment on this?

No, that is not true. It is implemented with the OpenCl standard, so
everyone has a benefit :) -- AMD's APUs are better optimized for such
kind of computing ;)


 If the optimizations only work on AMD powered PCs it will be impossible for
 me to take advantage of it (to be honest I don't have or know anyone who has
 an AMD based PC...)



Liebe Grüße, / Yours,
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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [libreoffice-users] [4.0.3.3 non fixed bug] Link with a space Pdf export error (%20 characters - space ones - exported as %2520 ones)

[Florian Reisinger]

Hi,

Am 10.05.2013 08:28, schrieb Tom Davies:

Hi :)
I don't know if there is one for LibreOffice yet.


Please have a look and file one (https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/bug/)



People have tried to show me how to look things up in the bug-report 
place but for some reason i can never quite manage it myself.


Feel free to ask at the IRC channel libreoffice-qa




Also i'm not sure if just solving the problem in LibreOffice would 
make the problem go away.  It seems to be further upstream with 
fairly major projects having to deal with it separately. is it 
possible to post a bug-report against the internet?

Apols and regards form
Tom :)


Nope not possible, at least how far I know :)




[Cutting the unnecessary things away]

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Re: [tdf-discuss] The brochure content stating NATO support the use of ODF

[Florian Reisinger]

Hi,

Am 10.05.2013 um 18:51 schrieb Kracked_P_P---webmaster 
webmas...@krackedpress.com:


ODF is recommended by numerous governments and NGO's worldwide, with
Indonesia, the European Commission, and NATO amongst those who support
policies calling for ODF as the preferred document production, retention
and exchange format.


For EC, please have a look here:
http://ec.europa.eu/commission_2010-2014/index_en.htm


I like this quote.
NATO - well the US and Canada are part of NATO - correct?


Yes, for full list see here:
http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/nato_countries.htm


That means that the USA, when dealing with other NATO members should use
ODF for their documentation and other files.


In theory yes...


Any more national and international organization can added to that list?

That may force MSO to do ODF better or just start thinking about using an
office package that does it better than MSO does.

I am a little vague on what is involved with the European Commission,
like how many of the EU are part of it, etc..  But, it does imply that
countries in Europe support the ODF format[s].


IMHO that changes from period to period...  IMHO always 27



Since LO uses ODF as their default format, we support the policies of these
worldwide organizations.  Since any Tech Adminknows that MS/MSO have been
sued by the EU many many times and MS/MSO have not complied with many of
those rulings that went against MS/MSO. If a company want to do business
with the EU, maybe you should keep that in mind when talking about an
office package that supports the policies set down by the EU or the
European Commission.

MS/MSO still hasnot complied with US courtrulings from the late '90's and
would rather pay the fines, which is pocket changeto MS. The US courts
are starting to support fining and jail time for the top administrators of
companies that do not comply to the US Court rulings.  Maybe that will help
get the US and EU court rulings to be complied with.


One thing I am wondering is this (quotation from
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:L:2010:251:0035:0048:en:PDF
 p16)


   1.

   The ‘Metropolitan Point of Presence’ (MPoP) means the point of
   inter-connection between the access and core networks of an NGA operator.
   It is equivalent to the Main Distribution Frame (MDF) in the case of the
   copper access network. All NGA subscribers’ connections in a given area
   (usually a town or part of a town) are centralised to the MPoP on an
   Optical Distribution Frame (ODF). From the ODF, NGA loops are connected to
   the core network equipment of the NGA operator or of other operators,
   possibly via intermediate backhaul links where equipment is not co-located
   in the MPoP.

 IMHO that could be meant as well (or do is the quote in connection with
the switch of NASA from Windows to Linux..?).


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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [libreoffice-users] [4.0.3.3 non fixed bug] Link with a space Pdf export error (%20 characters - space ones - exported as %2520 ones)

[Florian Reisinger]

Hi,

Does a bug report exist yet?

Liebe Grüße, / Yours,
Florian Reisinger

Am 09.05.2013 um 14:10 schrieb Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk:

 Hi :)
 %25 is the code for a % symbol so the 'wrong' link is not really wrong after 
 all.  It's just a bit odd and unnecessary.  In the 'wrong' link replace all 
 the %25s with % so that %2520 becomes %20 and then the apparently 'wrong' 
 link looks right.  It's a good reason for avoiding spaces and non-standard 
 characters in Urls.  CamelCase is much less prone to these sorts of problems.

 Seems a few other organisations are having trouble with %25 replacing %
 http://social.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/technicalqueries/thread/6f20c6a9-0ed9-4e96-a0f7-cc1abbdf58a8
 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/1648880?start=0tstart=0
 https://github.com/pipwerks/PDFObject/issues/23
 http://drupal.org/node/1335942
 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3549747/apache-25-in-url-400-bad-request

 Welcome back chap!  Lets hope they can fix it!
 Regards from
 Tom :)






 
 From: Carlo Strata carlo.str...@tiscali.it
 To: TDF, discuss discuss@documentfoundation.org; LibreOffice, users 
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 Sent: Thursday, 9 May 2013, 12:29
 Subject: [libreoffice-users] [4.0.3.3 non fixed bug] Link with a space Pdf 
 export error (%20 characters - space ones - exported as %2520 ones)


 Hi Everyone and sorry for my long silence!

 I have not read the mailing list for a long, but I am always here to
 use, test, update and spread LibreOffice! ;-)

 Since 4.x versions - but maybe since before:

 1. if you create a new writer document and copy in it a with-space-link
 like this:
 http://support.mozilla.org/it/kb/Informazioni%20su%20Firefox%20Sync
 2. save the document;
 3. export the document in pdf with the default settings;
 4. open the exported pdf;
 5. click on the clickable link;
 6. you will get this wrong link instead:
 http://support.mozilla.org/it/kb/Informazioni%2520su%2520Firefox%2520Sync
 7. if you open that link from the odt (as usual with a ctrl+click) you
 get instead the right link and the browser open correctly!
 8. if you leave your mouse cursor on the link both on the pdf and the
 odt documents you will get a correct title yellow lable (tooltip) too!
 9. I finally think there is a bug on the pdf export module.
 10. This is the same if you create the above document with the Insert -
 Hypertext link menu function.

 I have tested this on each new testing release, but only today I have
 found the mental time to write this mail.
 I am also going to search if there is a related issue yet and if not, as
 I used in the near past, I will post a new one.

 Have a sunny day,

 Carlo

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Fwd: [it-users] Bugzilla

[Florian Reisinger]

Hi,

Year, we would not be able to triage bugs. So, definitely WANTED.
Thanks anyway for asking :)

Liebe Grüße, / Yours,
Florian Reisinger

Am 09.04.2013 um 21:26 schrieb Valter Mura valterm...@gmail.com:

 Hi,

 this is a message from an Italian user, he says that he can modify a bug not
 created by him in Bugzilla. Is it normal?

 -  Messaggio inoltrato  -

 Oggetto: [it-users] Bugzilla

 Mi sono accorto, cercando un bug, che ho i permessi per cambiare lo
 stato, cancellare gli utenti in CC, cambiare l'importanza, ecc.
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Re: [board-discuss] FTP space for LibreOffice Server Install GUI

[Florian Reisinger]

Hi,

All the investigation I can do:

Am 17.03.2013 03:29, schrieb Norbert Thiebaud:

On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 2:54 AM, Florian Reisinger reisi...@gmail.com wrote:

I am really sorry, but I don't have the slightest idea how to do that.

It would be usefull to investigate... surely there is a way to do
unattended build, even on windows.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms165431(v=vs.110).aspx

Heading Creating and Building a Basic ClickOnce Application Using 
MSBuild





It
might be helpful for you to know what I do to release a new version: Open
Visual Studio 2012 for Windows Desktop | Build -- Publish Productname |
(A wizard opens. I enter the FTP Url I want it to be published - I enter
the download URL - I agree, that the software should be available online +
offline - Finish
Build starts -- Prompt opens, asking me for FTP username + password --
Waiting a second (till everything is uploaded -- A webpage opens when
everything is finished. Everyone using the program get a Update prompt and
are able to download it...

There is 2 separate task: building the porduct... and uploading it.
scipting the upload is not too much of a problem...
Well IMHO it is Remember: It doesn't has a real installer. It 
downloads the latest version from the web... So it must link to the 
webpage as a source for downloading, or in other words, you need to 
change something in the product in order to test, whether it is working



scripting the build... well it is windows, so who knows...


Link above (Visual Studio needed)



IMHO a daily would be non-sense as everyone would be forced to use a
daily... (See above)

a daily build does not really mean _daily_ first a buildbot only build
if there is something 'new' and will only upload if it build...
and we can make the buildbot monitor the master branch to do just
plain build (for verification purpose)
and a 'release' branch that will only see new commit when you are
ready to release a new version... which will then be built + uploaded.

The only way to scale, is to automate. so anything that require
someone to sit in front of a screen and click-wait-click-wait-click is
not good.
Mmh, not so much to wait. Building in seconds (well it's not so big). If 
I am ready to release, it will be released within one minute including 
building and uploading and verifying the upload... (Keep in mind, it is 
a ClickOnce application, NOT a normal Windows app)



It may sound not to bad when you have just one small project, with one
platform supported and little change rate... but now imagine dozen of
these, and lo itself that see 50+ commit a day with 4-5 platforms and
typically 2 release branches + master...


Well, it is a small project, I totally understand it for bigger projects 
with a build time over 10 seconds...


Norbert



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Re: [board-discuss] FTP space for LibreOffice Server Install GUI

[Florian Reisinger]

Hi,

Am 16.03.2013 00:09, schrieb Norbert Thiebaud:

On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Florian Effenberger
flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote:

Hi,

Florian Reisinger wrote on 2013-03-15 20:57:


I continue to work at gerrit. I just wanted to ask, when I am able to
re-publish my program? (In other words: When I am able to publish @TDF
FTP?)


if I understood Norbert right, the plan is to host it inside our git
repository?

Sure, but the build artifact need to be uploaded... most likely in
gimli somewhere...

Florain (Reisinger)
what does it take to build your project ? can out make a cygwin-based
shell scrip to run a build  ? (ideally stored in the porject itself)
in that case I could have one of the tinderbox to build the project on
occasion and upload the binary artefact somewhere... the 'same' way we
do daily build of lo.


I am really sorry, but I don't have the slightest idea how to do that. 
It might be helpful for you to know what I do to release a new version: 
Open Visual Studio 2012 for Windows Desktop | Build -- Publish 
Productname | (A wizard opens. I enter the FTP Url I want it to be 
published - I enter the download URL - I agree, that the software 
should be available online + offline - Finish
Build starts -- Prompt opens, asking me for FTP username + password -- 
Waiting a second (till everything is uploaded -- A webpage opens when 
everything is finished. Everyone using the program get a Update prompt 
and are able to download it...




It may be possible to set-up something so that you could trigger that
from gerrit itself...  or even maybe using jenkins and a windows (VM)
slave... david may have an idea about that, since he is developing
gerrit buildbot-plugin that way... (well, except for the windows part)


IMHO a daily would be non-sense as everyone would be forced to use a 
daily... (See above)



Norbert



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Re: [board-discuss] FTP space for LibreOffice Server Install GUI

[Florian Reisinger]

Hi,

I continue to work at gerrit. I just wanted to ask, when I am able to
re-publish my program? (In other words: When I am able to publish @TDF
FTP?)

Liebe Grüße, / Yours,
Florian Reisinger

Re: [board-discuss] FTP space for LibreOffice Server Install GUI

[Florian Reisinger]

Am 05.03.2013 09:45, schrieb Florian Reisinger:

Hi,
[...]



SI-GUI maybe??


Do I have the rights to do git push IMHO not...




Norbert





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Re: [tdf-discuss] Dual licensing of patches and code

[Florian Reisinger]

Hi,

I am gonna try to answer your question, although I am not that experienced:

If you are the author of the code, you may send it in as MPL + LGPLv3
to LibreOffice and to ALv2 to OpenOffice. Might this answer your
question?


Liebe Grüße, / Yours,
Florian Reisinger

Am 06.03.2013 um 16:31 schrieb Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com:

 Thanks for the reply, but the policy doesn't answer my specific question.

 I have a patch which is written for LibreOffice. However,
 I want to provide that patch to LO under both LGPLv3 AND ALv2.
 Based *solely* on the fact that it is dual-licensed and
 nothing else, is such a patch acceptable.

 Dropping OpenOffice since they have already indicated that
 the answer for them is YES.

 And this is not a theoretical question. I have been
 approached by people and companies stating that
 they wish to help LO but want to provide their code
 patches also under ALv2 (for internal legal reasons)
 and have been told that TDF and LO refuses to accept such
 code/patches/etc *simply* because it is dual/triple/quadruple
 licensed under the ALv2.

 tia.

 On Mar 5, 2013, at 3:08 PM, Florian Effenberger 
 flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote:

 Hello Jim,

 thank you for your e-mail. You'll find TDF's policy on this subject here: 
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/License_Policy

 Best,
 Florian


 Jim Jagielski wrote on 2013-03-05 18:32:

 On Mar 5, 2013, at 10:34 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote:

 So far, I've rec'd an answer from AOO... I'd appreciate
 an answer from TDF as well.

 On Mar 4, 2013, at 11:39 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote:

 BTW, Please be sure that I'm on the CC list, so I get
 any and all responses :)


 On Mar 4, 2013, at 8:08 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote:

 Hello there.

 This Email is being directed to the 2 controlling bodies of
 the Apache OpenOffice Project and LibreOffice (TDF). You will
 notice that I am sending this from my non-ASF account.

 Recently, at various conferences, I have been approached by
 numerous people, both 100% volunteer as well as more corporate
 affiliated, wondering if it was OK for them to submit code,
 patches and fixes to both AOO and LO at the same time. In
 general, these people have code that directly patches LO
 but they also want to dual-license the code such that it
 can also be consumed by AOO even if it requires work and
 modification for it to be committed to, and folded into,
 the AOO repo. My response has always been that as the
 orig author of their code/patches/whatever, they can
 license their contributions as they see fit. However,
 I have been told that they have rec'd word that such
 dual-licensed code would not be accepted by, or acceptable
 to, either the AOO project and/or LO and/or TDF and/or
 the ASF.

 Therefore, I am asking for official confirmation from
 both projects and both entities that both projectsSo
 are fully OK with accepting code/patches/etc that
 are licensed in such a way as to be 100% consumable
 by both projects. For example, if I have a code patch
 which is dual-licensed both under LGPLv3 and ALv2, that
 such a patch would be acceptable to both LO and AOO.

 Thank you.








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Re: [board-discuss] FTP space for LibreOffice Server Install GUI

[Florian Reisinger]

Hi,

Am 05.03.2013 02:54, schrieb Norbert Thiebaud:
[...]

Florian

1/ I need you to register to gerrit.libreoffice.org and send me the
email you used to register (so I can give you proper ACL on the new
repo)

It's the same I am mailing you now...


2/ Can you pick a repo name that is not insanely long..
LibreOffice_Server_Installation_GUI  is really too long for confort.
losig.git maybe ?

SI-GUI maybe???
PS: A step by step GUI to Git...
BTW: Would it be possible to stay at GitHub (I still don't know, whether 
I wiuld get the new system...). I would not be afraid, if I had a super 
tutor at hand :).


to give you an idea here are the kind of repo names we have so far

[..] Repo names

Norbert

Re: [board-discuss] FTP space for LibreOffice Server Install GUI

[Florian Reisinger]

Hi Michael, all,

Am 04.03.2013 um 11:47 schrieb Michael Meeks michael.me...@suse.com:

 Hi Florian,

 On Sat, 2013-03-02 at 13:15 -0600, Norbert Thiebaud wrote:
 On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 3:49 AM, Florian Reisinger reisi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks for helping out. If you have any question, don't hesitate and ask as
 I am subscribed to this ML..

 The first question would be: what is the license ? I looked in the
 repo on github but did not see any information regarding any licensing
 regime.


Clearly there are some attractions to having uniform licensing / git
 hosting / translation tooling / release process etc. for everything we
 create.

I, to be honest, said nothing about Git repo and translation tooling.
The release process is quite different: Heavy feature between LibO
releases, compatibility problems at beta1 up to the final release.
Translation tooling: As I am using C# I am using (Microsoft's) system
to do all the translation, it would not make too much sense to change
that


It seems as if you have a nice solution in the extensions repository
 though for this already ? is this problem-solved :-)

No, this provides only a installer, which downloads the necessary files via FTP.

Everything works except some people have problems concerning the FTP
server of the free host I am using...

I hope, that you understand, that my only need is a FTP server, so
that everyone can access the program I developed for this
community

All the best,

Michael.

 --
 michael.me...@suse.com  , Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot

Liebe Grüße, / Yours,
Florian Reisinger

[board-discuss] FTP space for LibreOffice Server Install GUI

[Florian Reisinger]

Hi everyone,

I want to introduce you to a program and it's problem...
This program is called is LibreOffice Server Install GUI, an open-source 
Windows application, which is able to fetch the latest master or the 
latest testing build or the latest released build of the newer and older 
branch and perform a parallel installation including installation of 
help packs in all languages and parallel downloads inside of the program 
itself. It also assists you to not use your existing user-profile as 
well as to create a desktop shortcut for the parallel installation and, 
last but not least, has a basic ability to manage installations. As of 
today it supports eight languages. I have been developing this 
application for a half year now and it is being said, that it is 
extremely valuable for QA, because it extremely simplifies the 
installation of master-builds.


So, now I want to introduce you to the problem: I have been using a 
free-host to make the program available, but during the last month I got 
reports, that it is unaccessible. As it is a free-host they have no 
support and I don't have a real chance to do anything...
So I am asking for TDF webspace as a place for releasing the program. As 
the current size is extreamly low, I wouldn't need more than 50 -70 M to 
keep ~30-50 version of the program itself + some auto-generated files by 
VisualStudio. I really hope, that this request is possible, because 
otherwise I don't know how everyone can have access to this program.


Thanks for helping out. If you have any question, don't hesitate and ask 
as I am subscribed to this ML..


Yours,

Florian

PS: Link to repo: 
https://github.com/reisi007/LibreOffice_Server_Installation_GUI

Re: [board-discuss] FTP space for LibreOffice Server Install GUI

[Florian Reisinger]

Am 02.03.2013 um 20:15 schrieb Norbert Thiebaud nthieb...@gmail.com:

On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 3:49 AM, Florian Reisinger reisi...@gmail.com
wrote:


Thanks for helping out. If you have any question, don't hesitate and ask as

I am subscribed to this ML..


The first question would be: what is the license ? I looked in the
repo on github but did not see any information regarding any licensing
regime.


Currently it is in a subfolder -- Will be changed with next commit:
https://github.com/reisi007/LibreOffice_Server_Installation_GUI/blob/master/doc/LICENCE


Norbert

Liebe Grüße, / Yours,
Florian Reisinger

Re: [tdf-discuss] Huge problems with big documents

[Florian Reisinger]

Hi,

The document is not attached. Please send me the document to me as PM...

Yours,

Florian

Am 07.02.2013 09:07, schrieb Giorgio Migliaccio:

Hi all,

  
We’re using LibreOffice (since v2.x up to 4.0 beta) inside our product LetterSketch, which was started 7 years ago.


LetterSketch is a document authoring tool with which authors can create 
documents and extend it with conditions, loops, variables, sub documents and 
other ornaments.

Finally this template gets compiled to an internal format and finally it can be 
generated on a server in high volume by feeding it data in XML format.

Now we got our biggest implementation up to date, a major European bank. And 
they need to create pretty complex document structures, containing multiple 
sub-documents.

And here we reached the limits of the OpenDocument format, or at least the 
LibreOffice/OpenOffice internal object representation.

  
At the customer we created a template/document containing 113 pages, built up with plain text, various objects like comments and frames, and dozens of sub-documents and where it takes some 10-20 minutes to just open the template.


  
We finally pinpointed the problem.


When we just take the top-level odt file, without resolving any of the 
sub-documents, LibreOffice needs 1 minute at 100% CPU(intel i5 CPU) and 500 MB 
of memory (!!!) for this document alone.
So when we also start resolving the sub-documents, LibreOffice goes up to 1.8 
GB of memory and then just crashes or disappears or freezes, there seems to be 
some kind of invisible ceiling.

Closing the document takes another 1-2 minutes and some additional memory is 
needed!

When saving the main document to the Word (.doc) format and then opening it in 
Word, MS Word only needs some 30 MB of memory to visualize this SAME document.

Please find attached the concerning (main) document.


Is there any kind of suggestion you can give us to overcome this 
problem/limitation, since this is going to be a major showstopper for our 
project.

Thank you very much for your suggestions.


With kind regards,

Giorgio Migliaccio





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Re: [tdf-discuss] Huge problems with big documents

[Florian Reisinger]

Hi,

Bug filed: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60418

Yours

Florian

Am 07.02.2013 10:58, schrieb Giorgio Migliaccio:

Hi,

Please find attached the document (one of many alike).

With kind regards,

Giorgio Migliaccio
Product Development Manager

Telephone : +32 3 450 89 84
Mobile : +32 486 92 43 41
Email : giorgio.migliac...@lettergen.be
LetterGen
Groene Hofstraat 13, 2850 Boom, Belgium
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From: Florian Reisinger [mailto:reisi...@gmail.com]
Sent: donderdag 7 februari 2013 10:48
To: Giorgio Migliaccio
Cc: discuss@documentfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Huge problems with big documents

Hi,

The document is not attached. Please send me the document to me as PM...

Yours,

Florian

Am 07.02.2013 09:07, schrieb Giorgio Migliaccio:

Hi all,

   
We’re using LibreOffice (since v2.x up to 4.0 beta) inside our product LetterSketch, which was started 7 years ago.


LetterSketch is a document authoring tool with which authors can create 
documents and extend it with conditions, loops, variables, sub documents and 
other ornaments.

Finally this template gets compiled to an internal format and finally it can be 
generated on a server in high volume by feeding it data in XML format.

Now we got our biggest implementation up to date, a major European bank. And 
they need to create pretty complex document structures, containing multiple 
sub-documents.

And here we reached the limits of the OpenDocument format, or at least the 
LibreOffice/OpenOffice internal object representation.

   
At the customer we created a template/document containing 113 pages, built up with plain text, various objects like comments and frames, and dozens of sub-documents and where it takes some 10-20 minutes to just open the template.


   
We finally pinpointed the problem.


When we just take the top-level odt file, without resolving any of the 
sub-documents, LibreOffice needs 1 minute at 100% CPU(intel i5 CPU) and 500 MB 
of memory (!!!) for this document alone.
So when we also start resolving the sub-documents, LibreOffice goes up to 1.8 
GB of memory and then just crashes or disappears or freezes, there seems to be 
some kind of invisible ceiling.

Closing the document takes another 1-2 minutes and some additional memory is 
needed!

When saving the main document to the Word (.doc) format and then opening it in 
Word, MS Word only needs some 30 MB of memory to visualize this SAME document.

Please find attached the concerning (main) document.


Is there any kind of suggestion you can give us to overcome this 
problem/limitation, since this is going to be a major showstopper for our 
project.

Thank you very much for your suggestions.


With kind regards,

Giorgio Migliaccio





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[tdf-discuss] [proposal] [QA-WE Essen 2012] Bug submission API - How to improve the current system

[Florian Reisinger]

Hello all!


During the German QA meeting some ideas developed. To cut it short, we 
came to the conclusion, that a Bug Submission API (BS-API) would be very 
helpful. I made a graphic (http://goo.gl/dHWhu) which should demonstrate 
a possible solution ( in this very diagram the green field is the goal, 
and the red one an error. The dark blue rectangle is the start, the 
light blue ones represent dialogues. If there are any questions, don't 
hesitate and ask at the QA mailinglist.(Please don't replay on any other 
list --- thanks). This diagram should be a program flow chart and 
visualize every step, how a bug report could be semi-automatic reported. 
The platform for reproducing, creating a step by step introduction how 
to reproduce the bugs. Only experts have assess to bugzilla. 
[@freedesktop.org Account related permissions are impossible -- Sorry 
Florian E.] Every language can have its own ML for doing that (IMHO the 
users@ ML is a great place for doing that) This would simplify bug 
submission for the end user and the frustration of both, QAler and 
end-user when a bug has not been touched for a long time OR the end user 
doesn't give needed input.



Reaching ~200 words of description, first let me thank you reading all 
this stuff and thinking about that. So, now be prepared for the result 
of a test right from the German discuss ML or simply answer ;) - I want 
to extend the idea more, if I get positive input by the way ;)



As said above this idea developed during the QA weekend. I had time to 
think about it and due to the fact that I found 2 nice bugs, which I 
mailed at the German discuss ML. All in all I wanted to submit 2 bugs in 
3 minutes, so the reports where, let's say it polite, short and 
contained some useful information, but not all (That's because I had to 
less time). So after 36h here are the results: Productive work has been 
done and one bug couldn't be reproduced by anyone, including me, the 
second one could not be reproduced, but I still can reproduce it on a 
German paralle installation @ Win 7 x64 on a different PC, but I think 
that will work...



So, I will stop now. If I continue writing nobody will be interested in 
reading this ;). If there s any question feel free to ask at the QA ML. 
libreoffice...@lists.freedesktop.org 
mailto:libreoffice...@lists.freedesktop.org (Maybe I have missed an 
important point, sorry for that, but the email is currently to long, too...)



Yours

Florian R.


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[board-discuss] Membership Committee Election Candidacy

[Florian Reisinger]

Full name: Florian Reisinger

Email: reisi...@gmail.com mailto:reisi...@gmail.com

Corporate affiliation: No


Reasons:


LibreOffice was my first OpenSource project I got in touch. Now, after 
working through lots of parts of the community and a lot of important 
experiences later I am now writing a pre-faculty work for my final exam. 
My goal is quite clear: To further improve LibreOffice situation and 
spreading the world about it. As a normal member I am currently doing 
both as much as I am able to, but I want to spread either my ideas or 
improve other ideas in order to do everything possible for the benefit 
of the project.

Re: [tdf-discuss] Open document from server

[Florian Reisinger]

Hmmm, you are using Win - that means IMHO that the Explorer has the
ability to connect to a FTP server, but LibO not. Please try it with
LibOs own dialogue.. ( should not work IMHO)

__
Florian Reisinger

Von meinem iPad gesendet
Sent via iPad

Am 23.08.2012 um 07:40 schrieb Rainer Bielefeld
libreoff...@bielefeldundbuss.de:

 Hi all,

 I several times tried to use the new file dialog to open a document on my ftp 
 server, but I always failed for a spreadsheet with General input / output 
 error.

 I get access to the ftp folder and see the documents, but when I try to open 
 I get a. m. error message with LibreOffice 3.6.1.1  German UI/Locale 
 [Build-ID:  4db6344] on German WIN7 Home Premium (64bit).

 Has anybody already checked that successfully? Is there a manual and / o some 
 LibO sandbox to test that?

 Best regards

 Rainer

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[tdf-discuss] Closing NEEDINFO bugs

[Florian Reisinger]

=allwordssubstrproduct=LibreOfficeresolution=---resolution=FIXEDresolution=INVALIDresolution=WONTFIXresolution=DUPLICATEresolution=WORKSFORMEresolution=MOVEDresolution=NOTABUGresolution=NOTOURBUGshort_desc=short_desc_type=allwordssubstrstatus_whiteboard=status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstrtype0-0-0=noopvalue0-0-0=width=700x_labels_vertical=1=bug_status=NEEDINFO
Total*899https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?action=wrapbug_file_loc=bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstrbug_id=bug_id_type=anyexactchfieldfrom=chfieldto=Nowchfieldvalue=cumulate=1email1=email2=email3=emailassigned_to1=1emailassigned_to2=1emailcc2=1emailqa_contact2=1emailreporter2=1emailtype1=substringemailtype2=substringemailtype3=substringfield0-0-0=noopheight=350keywords=keywords_type=allwordslongdesc=Due%20to%20the%20fact%2C%20that%20there%20are%20a%20lot%20of%20NEEDINFO%20bugslongdesc_type=allwordssubstrproduct=LibreOfficeresolution=---resolution=FIXEDresolution=INVALIDresolution=WONTFIXresolution=DUPLICATEresolution=WORKSFORMEresolution=MOVEDresolution=NOTABUGresolution=NOTOURBUGshort_desc=short_desc_type=allwordssubstrstatus_whiteboard=status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstrtype0-0-0=noopvalue0-0-0=width=700x_labels_vertical=1=bug_status=UNCONFIRMEDbug_status=NEWbug_status=ASSIGNEDbug_status=REOPENEDbug_status=RESOLVEDbug_status=VERIFIEDbug_status=CLOSEDbug_status=NEEDINFObug_status=PLEASETEST
*
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Re: [tdf-discuss] Libre Office Zotero Integration [Proposition of a New Partner?]

[Florian Reisinger]

Hi Anthony!


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Am 14.08.2012 um 11:11 schrieb Anthony Easthope antiso...@myopera.com:

 Hi Guys



 I have a proposition for you all and am not sure if you would class it
 as a feature request or a partnership suggestion.

 My idea is as follows: The Document Foundation partners up with Roy
 Rosenzwieg Center for History and New Media and work together on making
 The Zotero project an integral part of the LibreOffice frame work.



 I have the feeling that I might be treading on thin ground here but I
 will outline my reasons as to why this could work below



  * Libreoffice is perfect for use within university's / schools as it
 can be easily distributed thanks to the GNU license the same goes
 for Zotero
  * The use of Zotero could replace the inbuilt Bibliography 
 referencing tool as the current one is quite bewildering to use for
 many people
  * Zotero has a nice GUI and can work in with Firefox via an extension
 which is also open source so at the same time we are not just
 supporting one open-source initiative but three!
  * Zotero is open to suggestions and it appears to other projects as
 well
  * Increased awareness of The Document Foundation program via Zotero
 related media attention (Vice Versa for LO and Zotero)
  * it would bring a fresh feel to the whole project and could even
 mean a new approach and reinvigorate the project



 Let me Know what you think and feel free to shoot me down if you so
 wish!


With this very idea wie could Hit 2 birds with One stone! IMHO Great!





 Regards

 Anthony Easthope



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[tdf-discuss] Would you be so nice and forward this to some mailinglists...

[Florian Reisinger]

Dear developers / contributors of LibreOffice!


Todays cleanup of bugzilla went quite wrong. The same type of message 
got sent to a lot of you (either as reporter or CC) to you.


I really beg your pardon.

For your underatanding: I prepared to send one (1) message, but due to a 
browser, which hang itself up several times, you got 1-4 messages per 
bug. I am really very sorry for that and I hope you didn't uncced any of 
these bugs.


For more info, please write me a PM

PS: the original mail was not sent to a dev-ML would someone please 
forward it - thanks..


Yours

Florian

PS2: I attached 899 bugs, 99% would not be helpful of them and I am in 
CC of every single of them. So please don't write at me if you get too 
many mails. IMHO this was not a one-timer, but next time there will only 
be 50 bugs to change. I hope you understand why this was basically 
necessary...


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Re: [tdf-discuss] Word Count Icon

[Florian Reisinger]

Am Dienstag, 29. November 2011 22:56:05 schrieb Pad Ster:

I made this word count icon a while ago, and someone suggested I send it
in.
Now I know LibreOffice doesn't have a word count icon in the toolbar by
default, but I added one myself, since I was using it often, back with
OpenOffice.
Well, anyway, see what you think, it's attached.


Dear Pad,

Every mail you send to the mailinglist doesn't have an attachment
Please upload it somewhere and post a link.

Florian R.



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[tdf-discuss] Help , if it is or not

[Florian Reisinger]

Do we or don't we?

 

This project DOES NOT incorporate, access, call upon, or otherwise use
encryption of any kind, including, but not limited to, open source
algorithms and/or calls to encryption in the operating system or underlying
platform.

This project DOES incorporate, access, call upon or otherwise use
encryption. Posting of open source encryption is controlled under U.S.
Export Control Classification Number ECCN 5D002 and must be simultaneously
reported by email to the U.S. government. You are responsible for submitting
this email report to the U.S. government in accordance with procedures
described in:
http://www.bis.doc.gov/encryption/PubAvailEncSourceCodeNotify.html
http://www.bis.doc.gov/encryption/PubAvailEncSourceCodeNotify.html and
Section 740.13(e) of the Export Administration Regulations (EAR) 15 C.F.R.
Parts 730-772. 

Thanks for your help!

 

 

Florian Reisinger


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RE: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice should have own LibreOfficeFont

[Florian Reisinger]

 Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 16:55:18 +0100 Subject: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice 
 should have own LibreOfficeFont From: mzasu...@gmail.com To: 
 discuss@documentfoundation.org  Hello  Early this year FlashCounter 
 published a statistic showed popularity OOo in selected countries. We found 
 out that it had 22% in Poland and Czech Republic and 21% in Germany.  
 http://www.webmasterpro.de/portal/news/2010/02/05/international-openoffice-market-shares.html
  
 http://ooblog.pl/2010/02/06/polska-swiatowym-liderem-we-wdrozeniu-openoffice/(polish)
   The study relies on extricating fonts installed on the system and 
 identify the installed Office suites. For OOo it's OpenSymbol and for MSO 
 it's Calibri. I think LibreOffice should have own unique font (not RedHat 
 Liberation Fonts). It can be ugly and useless but should be to next 
 compare in future.

That's a ingenious idea!!!
What's about this font: LINK
Kind regards
Florian Reisinger
Linz Austria




  
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RE: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice should have own LibreOfficeFont

[Florian Reisinger]

This is the right link: 
http://fontstruct.fontshop.com/fontstructions/show/332612Kind regards
Florian Reisinger
Linz Austria


 
  
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RE: [tdf-discuss] Re: Re: Why LO mobile version should not be ignored

[Florian Reisinger]

 Has anyone in authority asked the PortableApps folk if they'd do a 
 portable LibO? Can't hurt to ask ...
 
 Has anyone in authority asked the Android and/or Apple and/or Symbian folk 
 if they'd do a mobile LibO? Can't hurt to ask ...
 
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 Harold Fuchs
 London, England 


That would be a great idea.   
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RE: [tdf-discuss] New Icon theme set

[Florian Reisinger]

  On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 18:42:25 +0100, Florian Reisinger reisi...@live.at 
  wrote:I am very sorry, if I disturb you, but is there a download 
  link for the new Theme and may I help to make it a little bit better? ( if 
  possible)   No need to be sorry:  The artwork is here (browsable): 
  http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/artwork/tree/?h=master  You can 
  download the current state as a .zip file: 
  http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/artwork/snapshot/artwork-master.zip 
   Or get it via git with: git clone 
  git://anongit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/artwork  Hope that helps 
  Sebastian
I think, that the link is broken.Is this the correct 
link:discuss@documentfoundation.org
Kind regards
Florian Reisinger
Linz Austria




  
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Re: [tdf-discuss] New Icon theme set

[Florian Reisinger]

I am very sorry, if I disturb you, but is there a download link for the new 
Theme and may I help to make it a little bit better? ( if possible) 
Florian   
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Re: [tdf-discuss] Why LO mobile version should not be ignored

[Florian Reisinger]

Am 17.11.2010 08:36, schrieb e-letter:

  Related to an earlier post
(http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss@documentfoundation.org/msg02677.html),
the following news article hyperlink
(http://blogs.wsj.com/tech-europe/2010/11/12/ghanaian-sms-start-up-tackles-fake-drug-scourge/)
is an interesting application of mobile phone technology and provides
further credence to the importance of the future potential mobile
devices market.

I don't think a huge Office-Suite is necessary for mobile devices, but a reader 
for all and the module Writer would be a very nice idea 
  
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Re: [tdf-discuss] document foundation wiki issues ...

[Florian Reisinger]

Hello

Have you ever thought about a new logo ( I have LO 3,3 B2 Deutsch) and the
Logo strongly reminded me  to OO.org 3,1.

Who makes a new one? I hope I am not spamming und darf man hier eigentlich *
nur* Deutsch schreiben oder ist das verboten??

Gruß/regards


Danke/Thanks

Florian Reisinger

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