[tdf-discuss] MS Anniversary upgrade warning - not LO issue

[Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster]

This is not about LO but about MS crashing both the Windows file system 
and GRUB.


If you have not run the Windows 10 Anniversary upgrade, you might want 
to consider it as a new OS install that crashes GRUB and messes with the 
Windows partition where it need major repair.


Yesterday, I upgraded my older DELL laptop that runs both Windows 10 and 
Ubuntu 16.04.


Win10 gave me a icon for the Anniversary Upgrade Assistant.  IT took 
hours for the download and verify it.  During the install, at about 30% 
complete, the install required a reboot.  GRUB errors was all I got.  I 
had to use a boot repair disk twice to get the laptop to be able to boot 
at all.  When I was able to boot to Windows, it took about 20 minutes 
for Windows to auto-fix the file system. Then it took 6 more hours to 
finish the install.  It took less time to install the Win7 to Win10 
upgrade, than it took the Anniversary upgrade.


Yes, MS messes with the GRUB system when it gets install alongside of 
Ubuntu, but it never caused so much trouble as it did yesterday 
afternoon to late evening.  6+ hours to install the upgrade and fix the 
laptop so it would boot again, was not expected.




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Re: [tdf-discuss] Libnreoffice Writer (3.x, 4.x, 5.x) on Linux looses font formt after repening document

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Thanks for the info.


On 11/10/2016 04:50 AM, GwenDragon wrote:

Hello Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster,
On Wed, 9 Nov 2016, at 15:44:37 [GMT -0500] (which was 21:44 where I
live) Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:


I have read this thread's replies, but have a question about what you
are talking about.

Are you saying that "Corporate" uses a specific font that has multiple
font weights and the person trying to edit it has the font but not the
specific weights in the original document?  Like "thin" or "light", or
using "heavy" instead of "bold" ?

Not, it is at the company where the documents are created and re-edited
for later printing.
The font family is completely installed on the systems, no
font missing.

I talk about the problem that Libreoffice looses formatting and
font information f.ex. about font weight/style, after saving and
reopening the same document. The style in document is reset.
See the GIF animation at
https://labs.gwendragon.de/blog/Computer/Anwendungen/Buero/libreoffice-font-format-bug.gif

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Libnreoffice Writer (3.x, 4.x, 5.x) on Linux looses font formt after repening document

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On 11/09/2016 06:54 AM, GwenDragon wrote:

Hello list,

LibreOffice has a bug and does not read character formatting correctly
after reopening document. Some font formatting is reset to Standard.
I reported such bugs (for OpenOffice, too) many years ago and updated
the reports regularly.

Please read Bug 35538 - "Writer does not remember formatting (font
selection) with complex font families"
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35538

I knew some users and myself having some font families with different
fonts weights in their office.
We are forced to re-edit after opening the saved document or template.
Using other fonts in document or template is not really a solution as
it breaks Corporate Identity.


I have read this thread's replies, but have a question about what you 
are talking about.


Are you saying that "Corporate" uses a specific font that has multiple 
font weights and the person trying to edit it has the font but not the 
specific weights in the original document?  Like "thin" or "light", or 
using "heavy" instead of "bold" ?


I have had the same issues myself.  I was lucky that one client gave me 
the complete Adobe font set for that specific year's specific set.  Yes, 
there are fonts that I use that has less "weight" options of the 
client's system, or I have more "weights" and "styles" of the font than 
the client has in their system.


Years ago, I worked with a PDF package that would embed the needed fonts 
into the file so the end user would have the specific "specialty fonts" 
displayed on their system.  Many of the specialty fonts were/are not 
commonly used by others, so they had to come with the PDF file to 
display or print properly - especially printers tasked to print large 
volume newsletter printing.


I think there was some "legal" issues that came up with embedding 
copyright protected fonts, like Adobe's, into a document being shared 
around to people who did not own the fonts in question.  I do not know 
if it is so now, but I was told not to do this anymore. That is why I 
use free fonts anymore, including the MS core fonts that are part of the 
Ubuntu repository.


I still get Word/Writer documents sent to me for editing where I do not 
have the needed font and cannot afford to but them for my systems.  Now 
I find out what fonts are wanted and see if I have it in my 200,000 font 
collection folder[s]. [mostly free and replacement fonts in this collection]

What can be done to let the developers know that this is a serious
issue? Money donations?
Please help us.

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Re: [tdf-discuss] need help off this list - need Linux package choice help

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On 10/24/2016 10:02 PM, jonathon wrote:

On 24/10/2016 08:22, Christian Lohmaier wrote:


Avidemux2 likely is easiest to use for newcomers..

I'd second Avidemux2.

Do note that with video editing you need _lots_ of free disk space on
the drive, along with a large swap partition.

jonathon



I have only 20GB on this 250GB Linux partition.  My swap is 4.1GB 
according to "Disks" package in the Applications>Accessories menu in 
Ubuntu 16.04LTS [64 bit].  So would this be enough?


I may be able to move 50+ GB from this partition to the Windows 
partition that has over 100 GB free.  This would be a temporary move 
though, since for some reason I no longer able to mount the Windows 
partition since I upgraded to 16.04. Much of the files to be moved will 
be needed several times a month.


Maybe I can figure out how to take half of the free space in the Windows 
partition and make it either a new partition or add it to the Linux's 
default "Home" partition.  On my other laptop, due to an error 
installing Win10 and switching from Linux Mint to Ubuntu, I now have a 
NTSF partition for shared data.  That laptop has only about 120 GB drive 
[not a SATA drive], while on this laptop I have 500 GB drive installed.  
This laptop is much faster and has more Ram, even though both are dual 
core, than the older one.





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Re: [tdf-discuss] need help off this list - need Linux package choice help

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On 10/24/2016 01:07 AM, Richard wrote:

First thing that comes to mind is to install VirtualBox in Ubuntu then
install WinXP or whatever you need to run your old Win prog. Guessing that
you will need min 4 GiB, though 8 is probably better, but maybe not?

I really want to get a package for Ubuntu, so I do not have to use 
Windows.  I do not have the "room" for a VirtualBox version of Windows.  
The only system that space for it has only 2gig ram and is an old, slow, 
desktop.  I have XP and Win7 install CDs, The Win7 are tied to the Win10 
upgrades. But, really, I do not want to go back to using Windows if at 
all possible.  The only reason I have Win10 installed as a second 
partitions is due to a photo editor and the use of a CD label creation 
editor and printer.  Both I have not used for several months.



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[tdf-discuss] need help off this list - need Linux package choice help

[Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster]

Please help this long term user, and a local promoter, [since the 
beginning] of LO.


I really need help on a presentation video[s].  I had an idiot give me a 
1.9 gig 3.5 hour video file instead of several files.  The video 
presentation had several different subject included and was to go into 2 
or 3 DVDs, but now that single file is the only available files, this 
video is almost 2 times the limit of the DVD format. So, I need to get 
the single file into several MP4 files like I was asking for.


What I need is a real easy, and fast, video file splitter for Ubuntu. 
The Windows splitter I used a few years ago is no longer supported since 
I upgraded that PC from Win 7 to Win 10.  I get nothing but runtime 
errors when I try to run the old package on any of my Win10 systems.


So do any one on this list could help me find the package I need on 
Ubuntu 16.04 [64-bit].


My email for the list is "webmas...@krackedpress.com", but it would be 
nice to have any helpful emails go to "timothy.lungst...@gmail.com".  
Either address would be OK.


Tim Lungstrom - - - Elmira, New York, USA


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Re: [tdf-discuss] LO contributors map

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I have not been following this posting - much.

The question I have is who/what can be considered as a 
"contributor/contribution".


Are Extensions and Templates creators part of this map?

How about creating a very large color palette for LO?
I use a "standard.soc" file of over 3900 color options.  I created it 
several years ago and it is much better for me with my flier and small 
poster work - up to 13x19 inch size.  Sure, it is not as big of a 
contribution as those who work on the software upgrades and "issue 
repair", but we should have some information on what will and will not 
be a part of the "pin map".



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Elmira, New York, USA < 42.076 -76.820  > 876 ft

This is the "geo-tag" of a weather station about half a mile west from 
me.  I do not know if the "-" is there for a separation or a negative 
number.  I went to Weather Underground for this information.  They list 
all of the currently online weather stations within my area. This is the 
only "place" I can see the GPS figures near me.


Elmira, NY < 42.102 -76.814 > 889 ft
This one is about 1.5 miles north of me.



On 08/13/2016 05:42 PM, Marc Paré wrote:

Hi Robert and Charles,

Thanks for doing this Robert, it is a great tool!

Just a minor point,  I believe it may be better to put the input box 
for latitude first and then longitude second as I believe this is the 
format followed for geolocation. This will help in minimizing the 
amount of errors in setting up the pins when people input the locations.


It may also be good to divide the "infrastructure" category to 
"infrastructure" and add "website" or "website development" or 
something of the sort. For example, some of us are not part of the 
infrastructure team, however, we do input a bit on the website (in my 
case event banners) and help out if there is a particular need for 
help on some webpages.


I also agree with Charles on putting this on our infra. IMO, for the 
growth of marketing teams, it would be very telling as to where the 
TDF/LibreOffice should concentrate on building building stronger ties 
with regional marketing teams. It is more visual than just staring at 
a list and may make it easier to see where some marketing support is 
needed.


Would also be interesting to the general public to see if they had 
access to it on the LibreOffice site.


Cheers,

Marc

Le 2016-08-07 à 15:23, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit :

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Hello Robert,

Thanks for doing this! I think we should host this on our infra. In any
case, I'll forward this to other mailing list that may reach active
contributors.

Cheers,

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Le Sun, 7 Aug 2016 18:52:47 +0200,
Robert Großkopf  a écrit :


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Hi *,

during a LO-community-meeting in 2014 we planned to create a community
map to find people living nearby. We created something in that way,
but it seems it had fallen asleep. Now I have published the map I
created on my own homepage:
http://robert.familiegrosskopf.de/map_3/

Some members of the German community have added themselves.

Try it out, give feedback. If interested in the sourcecode feel free
to contact me directly.

Regards

Robert






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Re: [tdf-discuss] LO contributors map

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Nice Map.
Is there any contributors in North or South America?


On 08/08/2016 11:18 AM, Robert Großkopf wrote:

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Have forgotten:

1. Get location with navigator.geolocation. A popup of the browser
will ask, if it might locate you. Then set the location with center
to your location.

Start for this:
http://robert.familiegrosskopf.de/map_3/
then change map_3.php in the location of the browser to map_3_center.php

2. Dont switch the center, but set zoom up so we could see nearly
whole Europe. No popup would appear, so no moving of the mouse to
the popup is required. One click less than before.

Start for this:
http://robert.familiegrosskopf.de/map_3/

If you use the direct link the width and height of your browser-window
won't be recognized. So the map wouldn't appear in the right width and
hight.

Regards

Robert
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Re: [tdf-discuss] Released LibreOffice For Dummies v2

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Did you try to use Lulu.com for the printed versions?

I have bought many books from there to have a physical copies of freely 
downloaded PDF book files.




On 05/10/2016 02:37 PM, Klaibson Ribeiro wrote:


Good Afternoon.

After five years, he came out the second version of LibreOffice For 
Dummies, in 2015, launched a Crownfunding campaign to leverage 
resources for printing of this book, but to no success, I decided to 
leave it in digital format.


The first version of the ebook had ample success, with over 11,000 
downloads recorded to the MegaUpload off the air in 2012 and many 
other copies distributed throughout Brazil, without the need to download.


In this version, and remove any reference to the extinct BrOffice.Org, 
because at the time I was writing this book were in transition period, 
updated all prints also been updated installation ways on Linux and 
Windows and in addition bonus of how to install LibreOffice on Mac OS.


This update comes at a good time, while Brazil is in crisis and 
thousands of companies, having to renew their licenses and need to 
reduce costs, certainly will opt for the use of LibreOffice.


Download for details can be found in 
http://www.mediafire.com/download/7854002z2t5ymez/LibreOffice+Para+Leigosv2.pdf


Good week.




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Re: [tdf-discuss] Is the "Office Open XML" option strict?

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On 12/10/2015 12:23 PM, avamk wrote:

Hello,

I was just reading yesterday that starting with Microsoft Office 2010,
Microsoft Office programs like Word and PowerPoint are able to read files
saved in the Office Open XML (OOXML) "strict" format. In fact as far as I
can tell Office 2013 or later natively supports reading and writing to the
strict format.

When saving in LibreOffice, I'm presented with the option to save my file in
the "Office Open XML" format. My questions are:

(1) Does LibreOffice also save it in the "strict" OOXML format? Is strict
OOXML fully implemented in LibreOffice?

(2) Is it better to save using the "Office Open XML" format, or the formats
named like "Microsoft Word/Excel/Powerpoint 2007-2013 XML"?

Yes, for software freedom purposes I prefer saving in the Open Document
Format, but I would get endless complaints from colleagues saying I'm
sending them weird and "corrupted" files... :( In fact even if I save in the
OOXML format I still get complaints, but at least I get less...

The problem with OOXML is the fact that each updated version of MS 
Office seems to use a different version of OOXML.


My solution for Word users is to use .doc instead of .docx.  It works 
well for me and the people I have to work with that do not use LibreOffice.


If you must use OOXML, do not use the generic Office Open XML.  That may 
be the generic ISO standard that MS wanted but never used properly [IMO] 
after ODF became the defacto International Standard. I would use the one 
that states it is for MS Office 2007 / 2010 / 2013.


To be honest, I no longer use MS Office and stopped getting MSO with 
2003 version.  I have used later version, but always removed them after 
a few weeks.




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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Cannot Open PDF Landscape Pages Properly When Libreoffice

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On 12/03/2014 05:30 AM, clarence wrote:

Hi anne,

The problem is that if I select page setup and change to landscape, ALL the
pages in the pdf will change to landscape. Is there any way to ensure that
only that page or a selected range of page get changed?

  


The only way I have seen that done is to print the document as three 
parts and then use a PDF merging package to stitch it back together.


part one - the pages leading up to the landscape page
part two - the landscape page
part three - the rest of the document
then merge/stitch the three documents together with some PDF 
editing/splitting/merging package.


I do not know about Windows, but Linux Mint includes a package[s] to 
split/merge PDF documents.






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Re: [tdf-discuss] Help please with LibreOffice

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On 04/09/2014 04:41 PM, Mike Brookes wrote:

Hi
I've used LibreOffice for a number of years trouble-free. I have a 
laptop and use windows, not Mac.
Last weekend I downloaded to my laptop a new application for 
downloading music from YouTube; it didn't work and I proceeded to 
uninstall it through start/control panel/uninstall. This seemed to 
work as the thing disappeared from the list and the desktop ikon 
removed itself. However, a couple of days later I used LibreOffice, 
went into my documents list and noticed there was a file with the name 
of the application I had uninstalled. I thought that shouldn't be 
there and I don't want it so I highlighted it and hit delete. That 
immediately changed my full list of files and documents into 
gobbledygook made up of caps and numbers so I can't identify files or 
docs when I want them. I can't see a way to reverse this. I can still 
access my proper documents list through Start and Documents where it 
still comes up as it should. But opening LibreOffice and then 
Documents I just get the gobbledygook.
Can you please help? I'd be very grateful (I'm still on LibreOffice 
3.6 and don't want to move to the new 4. until I've sussed this problem)

Many thanks
Mike Brookes



Most of the user help for LibreOffice is on the User list, not 
discuss list.


What we need to know is a few things, like what version of Windows you 
use - XP, Vista, Win7, 8.x?

Which version of LibreOffice are you using - 3.6.4, 3.6.5, etc.?

Which application did you download?

Where did you get it from?

Have you run any anti-virus and anti-malware packages since installing 
the package, and if so what packages?


To me, it sounds like you might have gotten a gremlin caused by some 
type of virus or malware.   But I could be wrong.


Also, are you opening Documents withing LibreOffice's open a document 
procedure, or are you opening LibreOffice and then using the file 
manager to view your documents to see which one you want to open?  It is 
a little unclear to me.


IT could be that something got messed up with some part of LO, if its 
open a document procedure shows weird and gobbledygook file 
names.  There were some security issues that were in the 3.6 line that 
were fixed in the 4.0 and 4.1 [and 4.2] lines.  You could always 
recreate your user profile by renaming LO's config folder and then LO 
will recreated fresh [like a new install] so any corrupt files in the 
config/profile folder would be replaced with clean ones.  The folder 
is placed in different locations, depending on which version of Windows 
you have and was changed with the 4.0.x line as well.  Since I do not 
run Windows [Win7] hardly at all now, I do not know where its location 
is from memory.  I tend to stick with Linux and have a laptop with Win7 
on it if I actually require Windows for something.







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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: Article about LibreOffice, brands, etc

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Many of us on these lists have been using LibreOffice since early 2011.  
I use have - since their first official offering.


I really think you will like LibreOffice.

One of the great things about it is the language support.  There are 
over 100 languages supported and some languages, like Spanish, have 
several spell check dictionaries.  In Spanish's case, there are about 25 
country based versions of the Spell checking dictionaries to choose from.


Also we offer support - for free - via several different methods. These 
email lists are just one of them.


Microsoft surely does not have that type of support - either number 
languages or free.




On 04/04/2014 08:30 PM, Güzelim Güzel wrote:

Thank you so much Robinson ! Your answer was rapid and clear :) I 'll use
without any doubt.
Ty again
Guzelimguzel.


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On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 4:08 PM, guzelimguzel
sosyalme...@guzelimguzel.com wrote:

Hi,
Can I ask a question please?

Sure -- you just did! :-)


I 've dowonloaded Libre office for free.Because,MS word was too slow...I

am

realized that,it s easier and user friendly.What I want to ask;Is it

totally

free? Or just for a while?

Good question! When we say that LibreOffice is free software, we
actually mean two different things:

1) It's free (as in no-cost) for you to use for as long as you like

2) It's Free Software[1], which means that you, as a user, are granted
the freedom to run, copy, distribute, study, change and improve the
software.

In most of our descriptions, when we say Free Software (capitalized
or not), we are talking about a matter of liberty, not price. To read
more about the philosophy of The Document Foundation, please read our
guiding 'manifesto':
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/Next_Decade_Manifesto

If you have any other questions about LibreOffice or other projects of
The Document Foundation, please let us know. We're glad to help!

Best,
Robinson Tryon
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The Document Foundation


[1] https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html






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[tdf-discuss] an update color standard.soc file available

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As I stated in other posts, I have been working on adding colors to the 
default set that comes with the LO install.


My current list of colors is now at 3965 color boxes.  Yes, there are 
some duplicates, but I have kept them due to their color sequences.


First in the list are the included colors, then I start off with some 
color shading, then some specific named colors like various Bronze, 
Gold, Silver, Ruby, Blue, and other colors.  After that I have a list of 
colors that are sorted by hue and lightness from lightest to darkest.  
You can also say they are sorted from #FF down to #00, i.e. from 
white/lightest towards black/darkest colors.  That is the reverse of the 
original listing of colors in a color sheet PDF.  After that, I have the 
99 shades of Gray and then a Pantone style of color list.


I am looking at merging other color lists into the hue-base part of 
the listing.  Of course, in 4.1.x line, the color boxes are smaller than 
what I have seen on the 4.2.x tests.


Yes, for many people, that may be too many color choices.  But for now, 
I am making a large list.  Later on, I will look into making specific 
smaller lists of colors, maybe for specific tasks.  That may happen this 
spring.  Maybe have a LO set that includes the Crayola colors for the 
kids and the color shades for the adult artists.


https://owncloud.documentfoundation.org/Common/QA/New-Colors/standard.soc---March-13-2014--3965-color-boxes-in-list.soc



Next will be adding these two color sets [resene-2010 is a little 
different from the original]


http://people.csail.mit.edu/jaffer/Color/resene.pdf

http://people.csail.mit.edu/jaffer/Color/resene-2010.pdf

to this one already in the color list

http://people.csail.mit.edu/jaffer/Color/ntc.pdf

by the way - printing these colors out, unless you have an expensive 
printer, will be much darker than what you see on the monitors.   I have 
tried this and have not printed these PDF files to look light enough 
to match my monitor's default brightness.


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Re: [tdf-discuss] Natural join symbol

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On 02/23/2014 02:40 PM, Bashar Maree wrote:

How can one insert a natural join symbol (bow tie) in both writer and math?
Thank you.



Do you have the reference number for where it might be in the list of 
characters in a font?


I found it, so you should, but you may need a Unicode font, since many 
of the other fonts I looked at do not include that character.


In Writer. . .

Insert  Special Character

Choose a Unicode font or one of the better ones for mathematic characters

Subset - Mathematical Operators

Go to Unicode character - U+22C8

I found it in Lucida Sans Unicode. DejaVu Sans. Chrysanthi 
Unicode, Everson Mono Unicode.


It was weird that Arial Unicode did not have it, even though it is my 
largest Unicode font set.


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Re: [tdf-discuss] Can't Locate LibreOfffice 4.0.4

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On 06/26/2013 01:46 PM, Christian Lohmaier wrote:

Hi *,

On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 4:48 PM, CVAlkan fobe...@enteract.com wrote:

I'm currently running version 4.0.3.3 (Build ID:
0eaa50a932c8f2199a615e1eb30f7ac74279539) on the 64bit Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, and
for the past several days I've been getting the notification that version
4.0.4 of LibreOffice is available for download.
[...]
Dutifully following these instructions leads me to
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/, and requesting the appropriate
download eventually leads me to an error page
(http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/stable/4.0.4/deb/x86_64/LibreOffice_4.0.4_Linux_x86-64_deb.tar.gz)
with the following message:

HTTP ERROR: 504
Gateway Timeout

Strange to see a gateway timeout, as there is no additional gateway
involved. (mirrorbrain, the mirror-handling thing is an apache-plugin,
maybe that had a timeout and caused that message? not sure..)

RequestURI=http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/stable/4.0.4/deb/x86_64/LibreOffice_4.0.4_Linux_x86-64_deb.tar.gz

That one works here.

Please try again - if it still occurs, then it is a problem on your
end, otherwise it was a temporary glitch.. (we switched dns entries to
a new host, but that was a few days ago)

If it still fails, then I assume the list of mirrors for that file
won't work either (
http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/stable/4.0.4/deb/x86_64/LibreOffice_4.0.4_Linux_x86-64_deb.tar.gz.mirrorlist
) - so here a few you can choose from:
Germany:
http://mirror1.hs-esslingen.de/pub/Mirrors/tdf/libreoffice/stable/4.0.4/deb/x86_64/LibreOffice_4.0.4_Linux_x86-64_deb.tar.gz
USA:
http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/tdf/libreoffice/stable/4.0.4/deb/x86_64/LibreOffice_4.0.4_Linux_x86-64_deb.tar.gz
Japan:
http://www.ftp.ne.jp/office/tdf/libreoffice/stable/4.0.4/deb/x86_64/LibreOffice_4.0.4_Linux_x86-64_deb.tar.gz

ciao
Christian



If all else fails, go to the NA-DVD install page.  Except for the 
Portable versions, I have the 4.0.4 installs, and some help/language 
packs listed there.

http://libreoffice-na.us/English-4.0-installs/install.html

It is not an official mirror, since my hosting company will not allow me 
to have a repository mirror on my account.

http://libreoffice-na.us/English-4.0-installs/install.html

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Grammar Checking in Writer

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I have used both Language Tools and Read Text to help my editing.
After 3 strokes and having Dyslexia, I need all the help I can get.

I do not know if they work for you, but give them a try.
Having someone/something read the text for you helps you hear the mistakes.


On 05/17/2013 04:18 PM, Anthony Easthope wrote:

There has been known problems of Lightproof not being good at detecting
certain phrase strings, I myself only rely on the spell check for LO and
have resorted to the prowess of my human eye and the plethora of free
websites that dedicate themselves to spell and grammar checking. I
notice that there has not been a major release for lightproof for awhile
now, Also despite my looking there seems to be nothing to indicate
whether or not there has been any recent development recently

I trust that this website: http://grammarbase.com will be of help in the
future

PS: upon rereading your problem I realised I at some point had the same
problem. My problem was when I had LO on my ubuntu machine due to my
locale being New Zealand and there not being a New Zealand dictionary
installed the automatic language of LO was en_NZ and thus lightproof was
ineffective, Upon a quick google search I came across this link which
could perhaps be of
some benefit:
http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/five-apps/five-libreoffice-extensions-to-help-you-catch-grammar-problems/1280
Ka Kite
Anthony
On Fri, 17 May 2013, at 08:59 PM, CVAlkan wrote:

I just did a complete cleaning and re-installation of LibreOffice on my
64
bit Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. I now have LibreOffice Version 4.0.3.3 (Build ID:
0eaa50a932c8f2199a615e1eb30f7ac74279539) installed.

I was attempting to explore the grammar checking feature - using either
F7
or Tools | Spelling and Grammar ... but have been unable to get it to
do
anything. My sample was a new blank document in which I typed the boyz
is
good. The auto-correction capitalized the initial T, and the spell
checker flagged boyz, but there was no indication at all about a
problem
with boys is, even after re-running F7 once the spelling of boys had
been corrected.

Under Tools | Language Settings | Writing Aids - Available Language
Modules,
LightProof Language Checker is checked.

Under Tools | Language Settings | Writing Aids - Options, Check grammar
as
you type is checked.

In the Tools | Language Tool | Configuration dialog, I took one of the
checked examples of what the tool checks and used it in the document, as
follows:

I typed in Is this a know problem? According to the rule, this should
be
corrected or flagged to be Is this a known problem?

Instead, it suggested the following: Is these a know problem?  This, of
course, would add an additional error to the sentence.

I suppose I could just assume that it knows I'm perfect, and just wants
to
help me appear more human, but I suspect it's more likely that I'm either
missing something somewhere.

Can anyone spot what I'm doing wrong?

Thanks.



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Re: [tdf-discuss] Donations system: pay for a feature

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On 05/15/2013 02:03 PM, Joel Madero wrote:

On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster 
webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:


Spending money, via donations, geared to one feature and not the whole
package can be a VERY bad marketing issue.

I never liked it.  If you donate money to one feature and it does not get
added, or fixed, in your time line and not the developer's, it can be a
mess.

We do not know what can be fixed easily, or if something that looks simple
will be a real hard add or fix.  The simple things tend to be not so simple.

We cannot even make a paper trail to show an agency [required by] that the
donation towards a feature would even go to it.  That would make a big
legal mess.

Paying a third party to fix things has been used by spammers for a long
time.


+1 to all that, but I think offering a payment and letting a developer opt
in or out is fine. As long as user and developer understand LibreOffice has
no part in the process.


Best,
Joel



Any payments and/or donations must be accounted for and if the person 
paying has any intent it to go to xyz, then by regulations we may need 
to account for that payment/donation and where it went to.


That is the real problem with targeted donations and payments.  There 
will be a mess in paperwork to deal with it.  Opt in, opt out, What it 
was used for.  Keeping track of all of who pays what, for what, can cost 
more than thepayment in paperwork and legal fees.




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[tdf-discuss] The brochure content stating NATO support the use of ODF

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ODF is recommended by numerous governments and NGO's worldwide, with 
Indonesia, the European Commission, and NATO amongst those who support 
policies calling for ODF as the preferred document production, retention 
and exchange format.


I like this quote.
NATO - well the US and Canada are part of NATO - correct?

That means that the USA, when dealing with other NATO members should use 
ODF for their documentation and other files.


Any more national and international organization can added to that list?

That may force MSO to do ODF better or just start thinking about using 
an office package that does it better than MSO does.


I am a little vague on what is involved with the European Commission, 
like how many of the EU are part of it, etc..  But, it does imply that 
countries in Europe support the ODF format[s].


Since LO uses ODF as their default format, we support the policies of 
these worldwide organizations.  Since any Tech Adminknows that MS/MSO 
have been sued by the EU many many times and MS/MSO have not complied 
with many of those rulings that went against MS/MSO. If a company want 
to do business with the EU, maybe you should keep that in mind when 
talking about an office package that supports the policies set down by 
the EU or the European Commission.


MS/MSO still hasnot complied with US courtrulings from the late '90's 
and would rather pay the fines, which is pocket changeto MS. The US 
courts are starting to support fining and jail time for the top 
administrators of companies that do not comply to the US Court rulings.  
Maybe that will help get the US and EU court rulings to be complied with.





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Re: [tdf-discuss] [Wiki] chart LibreOffice Lifecycle

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On 03/14/2013 03:26 PM, Jochen wrote:

Hi *,

I have relaunched the chart LibreOffice Lifecycle (s. [1]). Maybe 
someone can use this.


[1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan

regards

Jochen



The 4.1 listing show May, but there is no release published till July.
Should that be changed?

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Experimental UI for LibreOffice proposal

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On 03/08/2013 03:44 PM, Keith Curtis wrote:

Hi;

I'm working on a proposal for building an experimental new LibreOffice
toolbar / UI in Python:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:KeithCu

I'm going to add some links to places where the C++ code would need to
be changed and a few more tweaks, but I'm interested in feedback. Feel
free to use email or post in the discussion page as you prefer.

Regards,

-Keith



What is the target display width for your design?

We may have users that are using 800 pixel width CRT monitors.

So whatever you design to be on the side panel, the work space that the 
use will be doing the typing and editing in must be wide enough for them 
to efficiently work with the document file.


When I was working with the display withs under 1024 pixels, I found 
many packages that were not designed to be easily used with the smaller 
width display/monitors.  I have some that do notwork with any display 
that are less than 800 pixels high, let alone a narrow width.  There 
bottom buttons were not accessible.


So please think about the users we may have that need a package UI that 
work well and easy with a 800 pixel wide CRT display or similar limiting 
with display.




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