[tdf-discuss] [MAILING LIST] Language specific list for non-English communication

2010-10-07 Thread Kohei Yoshida
Hi there,

I believe we eventually need to have per language specific mailing lists
for those who are not comfortable communicating in English.  This would
help especially for the native Japanese speakers who are not well versed
in the English language, and I'm sure it would for other language
natives.

Best regards,

Kohei

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Re: [tdf-discuss] [MAILING LIST] Language specific list for non-English communication

2010-10-07 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Le Thu, 07 Oct 2010 12:16:17 -0400,
Kohei Yoshida kyosh...@novell.com a écrit :

 Hi there,

 I believe we eventually need to have per language specific mailing
 lists for those who are not comfortable communicating in English.
 This would help especially for the native Japanese speakers who are
 not well versed in the English language, and I'm sure it would for
 other language natives.

 Best regards,

 Kohei


Yup: please do also channel interested Japanese team members on the
l...@libreoffice.org list. I believe we're going to open them in batch
otherwise we'd keep on doing this for days...

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Re: [tdf-discuss] [MAILING LIST] Language specific list for non-English communication

2010-10-07 Thread Nguyen Vu Hung
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Kohei Yoshida kyosh...@novell.com wrote:

 Hi there,

 I believe we eventually need to have per language specific mailing lists
 for those who are not comfortable communicating in English.  This would
 help especially for the native Japanese speakers who are not well versed
 in the English language, and I'm sure it would for other language
 natives.

 I expect we would have

l10n...@documentfoundation.org
l10n...@documentfoundation.org
...



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Re: [tdf-discuss] [MAILING LIST] Language specific list for non-English communication

2010-10-07 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-10-07 12:16 PM, Kohei Yoshida wrote:
 I believe we eventually need to have per language specific mailing lists
 for those who are not comfortable communicating in English.  This would
 help especially for the native Japanese speakers who are not well versed
 in the English language, and I'm sure it would for other language
 natives.

Something I've always thought would be cool - a plug-in to a a mail list
manager that utilized googles translation service, so that users of
different languages could all communicate using a single list...

Anyone ever heard of such a beast?

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Re: [tdf-discuss] [MAILING LIST] Language specific list for non-English communication

2010-10-07 Thread Kohei Yoshida
On Thu, 2010-10-07 at 15:08 -0400, Charles Marcus wrote:
 On 2010-10-07 12:16 PM, Kohei Yoshida wrote:
  I believe we eventually need to have per language specific mailing lists
  for those who are not comfortable communicating in English.  This would
  help especially for the native Japanese speakers who are not well versed
  in the English language, and I'm sure it would for other language
  natives.
 
 Something I've always thought would be cool - a plug-in to a a mail list
 manager that utilized googles translation service, so that users of
 different languages could all communicate using a single list...

That *may* work between Latin-based languages, but those on-line
translation services are pretty horrible at translating between CJK and
Latin, especially when going from CJK to Latin.

It's so bad that you could probably communicate better with body
languages alone, than using one of those services. ;-)

Kohei

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Re: [tdf-discuss] [MAILING LIST] Language specific list for non-English communication

2010-10-07 Thread Kohei Yoshida
On Thu, 2010-10-07 at 15:32 -0400, Kohei Yoshida wrote:
 That *may* work between Latin-based languages, but those on-line
 translation services are pretty horrible at translating between CJK
 and Latin, especially when going from CJK to Latin. 

Hmm... Actually the Google one does a better job than Yahoo Babel Fish
as it turns out (just tested it now).  Still, I think we are 10 years
too early to expect solid machine translation that we can rely on to
have a single-language communication medium.

Perhaps in 10 years... ;-)

Kohei

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Re: [tdf-discuss] [MAILING LIST] Language specific list for non-English communication

2010-10-07 Thread Drew Jensen
On Thu, 2010-10-07 at 15:48 -0400, Kohei Yoshida wrote:
 On Thu, 2010-10-07 at 15:32 -0400, Kohei Yoshida wrote:
  That *may* work between Latin-based languages, but those on-line
  translation services are pretty horrible at translating between CJK
  and Latin, especially when going from CJK to Latin. 
 
 Hmm... Actually the Google one does a better job than Yahoo Babel Fish
 as it turns out (just tested it now).  Still, I think we are 10 years
 too early to expect solid machine translation that we can rely on to
 have a single-language communication medium.
 
 Perhaps in 10 years... ;-)
 
Hello Kohei

Piping in here - I've tried the computer translation route and for many
languages it is pretty good. Japanese like you say, a bit of a problem
still.

Just my .02 worth

Drew

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