PPIG discuss: Searching for search strategies

2002-07-04 Thread Bjorn Reese

[ Sorry, I could not resist the meta-level subject line. ]

I am looking for references about how humans collect information,
especially when starting from (near-)scratch. That is, how do we
determine where to look, how do we look, and how do we evaluate the
relevance of the information.

So far, I have mainly been looking at the Decision-Making literature,
but they generally assume that you use the available information to
search for a solution. I am more interested in how the information
is obtained.

To put this request into context, I am investigating the possibility
of a more rigid foundation for debugging techniques than today's ad
hoc approaches.

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Re: PPIG discuss: Searching for search strategies

2002-07-04 Thread Derek M Jones

Alan,

 The suggestion by Chuck Lutz is a good one.  The Pirolli paper
 is very interesting.  But your first paragraph suggested you
 were interested in how people view what is in front of them?

I interpreted this the other way. by where we look, I assumed 
that you did not mean where we point our eyes but, what pages 
do we retrieve

I am currently writing up some material on visual search.  So I
am primed to give that interpretation to the word 'look'.

Either way Bjorn might also want to look at:
Memory versus Perceptual-Motor Tradeoffs in a Blocks World Task,
available from:
http://hfac.gmu.edu/~gray/pubs/papers/FG-CogSc.htm

Developers making use of knowledge, during debugging, that is
later shown to be incorrect, is the root cause of some very long winded
debugging sessions.


derek

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RE: PPIG discuss: Searching for search strategies

2002-07-04 Thread Lindsay Marshall

Good grief, you all take such a rigourous approach to these things! How do we search 
for subject X about which we know nothing?

Well these days we go to google and type in X and go from there. (That is *exactly* 
what I do for almost everything now) At least I now know what categories X may fall in 
to.

Previously I would have found out what X was in a reference book and then looked in 
the appropriate reference source for that category.

The other way to go about it is to ask someone else - this is a very productive 
protocol (and knowing you lot I bet you get asked a lot of questions too) and will 
converge quicker than google where youa re often tempted from the straight and narrow 
(quite literaly)

The other option is to ask Thomas. G

L.

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RE: PPIG discuss: Searching for search strategies

2002-07-04 Thread Derek M Jones

Lindsay,

Well these days we go to google and type in X and go from there. (That is *exactly* 
what I do for almost everything now) At least I now know what categories X may fall 
in to.

Ask Jeeves is better if you have a question to ask.  But he never gives
me any sensible answers to the question why doesn't my program work?.

Mind you, I just asked Jeeves again.  He came back with lots of ways
to find a job.  Always useful after a major program crashes.

Previously I would have found out what X was in a reference book and then looked in 
the appropriate reference source for that category.

But does this limit your questions to those that have answers in reference books.

The other way to go about it is to ask someone else - this is a very productive 
protocol (and knowing you lot I bet you get asked a lot of questions too) and will 
converge quicker than google where youa re often tempted from the straight and narrow 
(quite literaly)

You must have very knowledgeable colleagues, or ask simple questions ;-)

I sometimes post questions to news groups, as an act of desperation.


derek

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