Re: learning django and python
This should help with installing on OSX http://blog.timperrett.com/2007/9/22/running-django-on-osx Cheers Tim --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: learning django and python
On 14-Nov-07, at 8:41 PM, sebey wrote: > ok ok thanks love some more resurces ok, one more resource, but this is the last one: Introspection, which is the greatest python resource ever: do this: type 'python' in a console type import os and press enter type dir(os) and press enter type help(os.walk) and press enter enjoy -- regards kg http://lawgon.livejournal.com http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: learning django and python
I don't know about the Instant Django on OSX, but Django itself is very easy. I use the python universal binary from http://www.python.org/download then download Django, untar it, and go into the extracted Django directory, run "sudo python setup.py install" That's it, Django is installed and ready to go. On Nov 14, 2007 8:49 AM, sebey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > yes thats cool but one problem; I''m a mac guy so if anyone can find a > mac version of this please post > > On Nov 13, 7:37 pm, cjl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Sebey: > > > > You may want to check out a tutorial I am working on: > > > > http://www.instantdjango.com > > > > It provides a 'newbie-friendly' introduction to Django, even if you're > > not familiar with Python yet. > > > > I haven't finished the second chapter yet, but I think the first > > chapter will help get you started, or at least help you figure out if > > Python and Django is right for you. > > > > -CJL > > > > > -- Omnem crede diem tibi diluxisse supremum. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: learning django and python
is there anyway to download the documentation on the django site? On Nov 14, 3:11 pm, sebey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ok ok thanks love some more resurces > > On Nov 14, 2:10 pm, cjl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Buy me a mac and I'd be happy to create an OSX version of Instant > > Django for you! > > > Just kidding, but there are many websites explaining Django > > installation on OSX. You can still follow along with my tutorial after > > you have installed it. > > > Sorry I can't be of more help. I actually tried a 'hackintosh' > > installation of Tiger under vmware so I could create an OSX version, > > but it ran so slow it was unusable. > > > -CJL --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: learning django and python
I think the best way now is to try and post specific question when you encounter deadends. I run django on a mac, but if you need help you better start by yourself (and you will learn more). It is easier if you use sqlite and to learn, sqlite is more than enough. So follow the instruction on the doc page and install the svn version. If you're using Tiger you need to install svn first, if you're running Leopard, svn is builtin. svn : http://subversion.tigris.org/project_packages.html install : http://www.djangoproject.com/documentation/install/ Have fun! Francis On Nov 14, 10:11 am, sebey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ok ok thanks love some more resurces > > On Nov 14, 2:10 pm, cjl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Buy me a mac and I'd be happy to create an OSX version of Instant > >Djangofor you! > > > Just kidding, but there are many websites explainingDjango > > installation on OSX. You can still follow along with my tutorial after > > you have installed it. > > > Sorry I can't be of more help. I actually tried a 'hackintosh' > > installation of Tiger under vmware so I could create an OSX version, > > but it ran so slow it was unusable. > > > -CJL --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: learning django and python
ok ok thanks love some more resurces On Nov 14, 2:10 pm, cjl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Buy me a mac and I'd be happy to create an OSX version of Instant > Django for you! > > Just kidding, but there are many websites explaining Django > installation on OSX. You can still follow along with my tutorial after > you have installed it. > > Sorry I can't be of more help. I actually tried a 'hackintosh' > installation of Tiger under vmware so I could create an OSX version, > but it ran so slow it was unusable. > > -CJL --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: learning django and python
Buy me a mac and I'd be happy to create an OSX version of Instant Django for you! Just kidding, but there are many websites explaining Django installation on OSX. You can still follow along with my tutorial after you have installed it. Sorry I can't be of more help. I actually tried a 'hackintosh' installation of Tiger under vmware so I could create an OSX version, but it ran so slow it was unusable. -CJL --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: learning django and python
yes thats cool but one problem; I''m a mac guy so if anyone can find a mac version of this please post On Nov 13, 7:37 pm, cjl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sebey: > > You may want to check out a tutorial I am working on: > > http://www.instantdjango.com > > It provides a 'newbie-friendly' introduction to Django, even if you're > not familiar with Python yet. > > I haven't finished the second chapter yet, but I think the first > chapter will help get you started, or at least help you figure out if > Python and Django is right for you. > > -CJL --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: learning django and python
sebey: a python overview you can go through in an hour or 2 is byteofpython. it's very short, and though u wont get everythng in it, it gives you a feel for what python is about. i lso find reading the django code can be very informative (after u have got some python under your belt) you can get the byteofpython from the playwithpython yahoo group On Nov 13, 10:29 pm, Raisins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I love Instantd Django. I made installing and depolying django and > python a breeze also I can move from my work to home every easy just > by carrying around my thumbdrive. I highly suggest it to anyone on the > fence about either Python or django. I haven't found an easier cleaner > way to deploy them anywhere. > > On Nov 13, 2:37 pm, cjl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Sebey: > > > You may want to check out a tutorial I am working on: > > >http://www.instantdjango.com > > > It provides a 'newbie-friendly' introduction to Django, even if you're > > not familiar with Python yet. > > > I haven't finished the second chapter yet, but I think the first > > chapter will help get you started, or at least help you figure out if > > Python and Django is right for you. > > > -CJL --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: learning django and python
I love Instantd Django. I made installing and depolying django and python a breeze also I can move from my work to home every easy just by carrying around my thumbdrive. I highly suggest it to anyone on the fence about either Python or django. I haven't found an easier cleaner way to deploy them anywhere. On Nov 13, 2:37 pm, cjl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sebey: > > You may want to check out a tutorial I am working on: > > http://www.instantdjango.com > > It provides a 'newbie-friendly' introduction to Django, even if you're > not familiar with Python yet. > > I haven't finished the second chapter yet, but I think the first > chapter will help get you started, or at least help you figure out if > Python and Django is right for you. > > -CJL --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: learning django and python
Sebey: You may want to check out a tutorial I am working on: http://www.instantdjango.com It provides a 'newbie-friendly' introduction to Django, even if you're not familiar with Python yet. I haven't finished the second chapter yet, but I think the first chapter will help get you started, or at least help you figure out if Python and Django is right for you. -CJL --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: learning django and python
> well I have a book on php,apache and mysql so are there? any > differences between mysql and postgreSQL for django > (proforanmce features etc.) They're becoming closer in terms of their features. A couple observations in my experience: - MySQL tends to be faster and have some nice "my site mostly reads data and doesn't have so much writing" optimizations (mostly through table-types) - the prevaling intarweb "knowledge" says that MySQL is faster under light load, but doesn't scale as well as PostgreSQL (PG) under heavy transactional load (again, load for reading vs. load for writing may be important here). - PG supports much more ANSI SQL. MySQL is coming closer, but it's still missing some things that I reach for regularly. And some of MySQL's table-types don't support all features (such as transactions) though this allows for some of the optimizations mentioned above. Many hosting services have older versions of MySQL which drive me absolutely bonkers for its lack of certain features (views, sub-queries, etc) - I find MySQL easier to install and administer. PG has a much more "enterprisy" feel to it with the management overhead that goes along with it. This may be the reason more hosting services tend to offer MySQL. - MySQL has full-text search (FTS). The most recent release of PG now has finally integrated their plugin FTS into the default deployment which should close this gap. - MySQL used to have the edge for Win32 deployment, but PG now works on NT-based Win32 (Win2k and WinXP...likely Vista too) - both have their own replication/load-balancing schemes that can be used Fortunately, since they're both free, you can download both and take 'em for a test drive to see which you prefer. Django's ORM also abstracts out many of the differences between them, so it's not as significant unless you're reaching into an extra() call to use some server-specific code. Where it matters, I try to test with Django's "big 3"...PG, MySQL, and sqlite just to make sure it works on all three, but for my quick/development tests, I tend to prefer sqlite for its in-memory DB. Just my thoughts on factors. Weigh against what you need and decide accordingly. -tim --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: learning django and python
well I have a book on php,apache and mysql so are there? any differences between mysql and postgreSQL for django (proforanmce features etc.) On Nov 13, 1:36 pm, Kenneth Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 13-Nov-07, at 6:55 PM, sebey wrote: > > > has anyone tryed this I guess you have ken but is a good and quick way > > to learn django and python and sql (mysql is it or again silly?) this > > is really intersting I loved to learn more > > for me - while learning django, I always had Python in a Nutshell, > and the wrox book on postgresql open on my desk for reference and > practice. I now have diveintopython and the interactive postgresql > manual open on my laptop while I do django on my desktop. Am learning > all the time. (that is when I have time to code, which is not very > often). Incidently, if you want to learn sql, postgresql makes far > more sense than mysql. > > -- > > regards > kghttp://lawgon.livejournal.comhttp://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: learning django and python
On 13-Nov-07, at 6:55 PM, sebey wrote: > has anyone tryed this I guess you have ken but is a good and quick way > to learn django and python and sql (mysql is it or again silly?) this > is really intersting I loved to learn more for me - while learning django, I always had Python in a Nutshell, and the wrox book on postgresql open on my desk for reference and practice. I now have diveintopython and the interactive postgresql manual open on my laptop while I do django on my desktop. Am learning all the time. (that is when I have time to code, which is not very often). Incidently, if you want to learn sql, postgresql makes far more sense than mysql. -- regards kg http://lawgon.livejournal.com http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: learning django and python
On 13-Nov-07, at 6:04 PM, sebey wrote: > is that a joke or for real? sorry don't get it for real - you cant learn python or sql through django - so make a systematic plan of learning the two *while* you are learning django. Meaning that, dont first go and learn python and *then* learn django -- regards kg http://lawgon.livejournal.com http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: learning django and python
is that a joke or for real? sorry don't get it On Nov 13, 1:47 am, Kenneth Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 12-Nov-07, at 9:02 PM, sebey wrote: > > > good thanks for can I learn python with django > > while learningdjango(): > python.learn() > sql.learn() > > -- > > regards > kghttp://lawgon.livejournal.comhttp://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: learning django and python
is that a joke or for real? sorry don't get it On Nov 13, 1:47 am, Kenneth Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 12-Nov-07, at 9:02 PM, sebey wrote: > > > good thanks for can I learn python with django > > while learningdjango(): > python.learn() > sql.learn() > > -- > > regards > kghttp://lawgon.livejournal.comhttp://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: learning django and python
On 12-Nov-07, at 9:02 PM, sebey wrote: > good thanks for can I learn python with django while learningdjango(): python.learn() sql.learn() -- regards kg http://lawgon.livejournal.com http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: learning django and python
On 12-Nov-07, at 8:03 PM, sebey wrote: > hey I am new to python and all that and of course django so I know > there is a django book up on the site but I was wondering if it would > be a good idea to use that resource ( cause I do not have a lot of > time on my hands) for learning pthyon and django as well and if > possable what resources are there? http://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/IrcFAQ -- regards kg http://lawgon.livejournal.com http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: learning django and python
this is all great love anymore resource you guys have and for anyone else who may stumbleupon this thanks love some more please On Nov 12, 5:55 pm, kevinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is also a decent resource for learning the basics of Python > quickly. > > http://www.ibiblio.org/obp/thinkCSpy/index.html --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: learning django and python
This is also a decent resource for learning the basics of Python quickly. http://www.ibiblio.org/obp/thinkCSpy/index.html --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: learning django and python
1st: http://www.b-list.org/weblog/2006/jun/13/how-django-processes-request/ 2nd: Tutorial 3rd: The docs, just sit down and read them. If you expect to use them as a reference manual without reading them first it will probably cause you trouble... they just aren't written that way. After doing the tutorial and a few basic things, I'd suggest reading the Django source code (I'd start with the newforms module), and look up anything you don't understand in the Python docs. It's clear, and and well documented. Some parts of the documentation just didn't click until I started looking through the source. In a lot of ways I find the source much more helpful than the real docs, and usually consult it first anymore. Another good source for how-do-I-do that code is the regression tests: http://code.djangoproject.com/browser/django/trunk/tests/regressiontests --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: learning django and python
I was in the same place a couple months back, so here's some resources I found helpful: Django specific: djangobook.com - you mentioned, parts were extremely useful, others too incomplete to be of much use. The tutorial in the first few chapters I found very useful. djangoproject.com/documentation/ - used with the book, answered most of the questions I had django users - this list, probably has been the greatest help with specific problems after I had the most basic parts down. djangosnippets.org - lots of helpful tidbits, some solving problems I didn't know I had. Hampered by a lack of search capabilities, but you can use google with it. b-list.org - Blog with explanation of some more advanced (at least for me) Django features. Also good is Malcolm's Pointy Stick (www.pointy-stick.com/blog/) I recently discovered the built-in documentation in the admin interface, which makes a great reference. Python specific: Dive Into Python - http://diveintopython.org/ Great book, my primary python reference. How to think like a (Python) Programmer - http://www.greenteapress.com/thinkpython/ If you're newish to programming in general then this may be more useful. The official docs - http://www.python.org/doc/ Hope this helps. Michael On Nov 12, 7:33 am, sebey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hey I am new to python and all that and of course django so I know > there is a django book up on the site but I was wondering if it would > be a good idea to use that resource ( cause I do not have a lot of > time on my hands) for learning pthyon and django as well and if > possable what resources are there? > > thanks --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: learning django and python
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 07:35:03 -0800 sebey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, > plus I need to learn it fast as well so I had a look but it looks like > a lot to go tought thanks thought diveintopython is actually quite a fast way to learn python. The ToC looks quite long but the actual pages are very short and clean. You can read the whole thing in two or three days, maybe less. However you don't need to know everything to get started with django (or python). You can use django without learning about SOAP, HTTP based web services (it means REST in that context I think), XML and HTML processing. Then you can have a look when you need those. The django intro documents assume that you already know python so you'll need to learn that first. But it shouldn't be a problem because you'll need to know python to build a django app anyway. :) Laszlo --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: learning django and python
plus I need to learn it fast as well so I had a look but it looks like a lot to go tought thanks thought On Nov 12, 2:42 pm, "Jon Atkinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dive into Python is a good resource for learning Python: > > http://www.diveintopython.org/ > > --Jon > > On 11/12/07, sebey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > hey I am new to python and all that and of course django so I know > > there is a django book up on the site but I was wondering if it would > > be a good idea to use that resource ( cause I do not have a lot of > > time on my hands) for learning pthyon and django as well and if > > possable what resources are there? > > > thanks --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: learning django and python
good thanks for can I learn python with django? or is that sound silly On Nov 12, 2:42 pm, "Jon Atkinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dive into Python is a good resource for learning Python: > > http://www.diveintopython.org/ > > --Jon > > On 11/12/07, sebey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > hey I am new to python and all that and of course django so I know > > there is a django book up on the site but I was wondering if it would > > be a good idea to use that resource ( cause I do not have a lot of > > time on my hands) for learning pthyon and django as well and if > > possable what resources are there? > > > thanks --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: learning django and python
Dive into Python is a good resource for learning Python: http://www.diveintopython.org/ --Jon On 11/12/07, sebey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > hey I am new to python and all that and of course django so I know > there is a django book up on the site but I was wondering if it would > be a good idea to use that resource ( cause I do not have a lot of > time on my hands) for learning pthyon and django as well and if > possable what resources are there? > > thanks > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
