Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Call for Adoption: draft-hardaker-dnsop-rfc8624-bis, must-not-sha1, must-not-ecc-gost

2024-04-28 Thread Paul Hoffman
On Apr 27, 2024, at 17:38, Tim Wicinski  wrote:
> Please review these drafts to see if you think they are suitable for adoption
> by DNSOP, and send any comments to the list, clearly stating your view.

The WG already has many important DNSSEC-related documents that are not getting 
enough attention from WG participants. Each of those documents would have much 
more significant effects on the security of the DNS than these proposed 
documents. The WG should not adopt these proposed documents until the more 
important documents have been standardized.

In the future, there may be more relevant attacks on SHA-1 and ECC-GOST, and 
adopting these documents would make sense then. The advances in practical 
attacks on SHA-1 have been slow and somewhat predictable. The use of ECC-GOST 
outside of regions where it was required is nearly non-existent.

The WG's attention is valuable, and spending that attention on documents that 
do not noticeably affect the actual security of the DNS is not a good use of 
our time. I propose that Wes keep the drafts alive as personal documents until 
the WG's DNSSEC documents with much more impact are finished.

--Paul Hoffman

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[DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-heard-dnsop-udp-opt-large-dns-responses-00.txt

2024-04-28 Thread C. M. Heard
Greetings,

TSVWG currently has the document "Transport Options for UDP" (
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-tsvwg-udp-options) in
Working Group Last Call. It includes a capability to fragment datagrams at
the UDP layer rather than the IP layer, and one of the use cases that has
been discussed over there is using that capability to transmit large DNS
responses without suffering the disadvantages of IP fragmentation or
fallback to TCP. But we need a reality check from the subject matter
experts over here to help us determine whether this idea is viable.
Accordingly, I put together a short (and at this point not very polished)
individual draft describing how this might work. Your feedback will be
greatly appreciated.

Thanks and regards,

Mike Heard

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Subject: New Version Notification for
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To: C. M. Heard (Mike) 


A new version of Internet-Draft
draft-heard-dnsop-udp-opt-large-dns-responses-00.txt has been successfully
submitted by C. M. (Mike) Heard and posted to the
IETF repository.

Name: draft-heard-dnsop-udp-opt-large-dns-responses
Revision: 00
Title:Use of UDP Options for Transmission of Large DNS Responses
Date: 2024-04-28
Group:Individual Submission
Pages:8
URL:
https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-heard-dnsop-udp-opt-large-dns-responses-00.txt
Status:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-heard-dnsop-udp-opt-large-dns-responses/
HTMLized:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-heard-dnsop-udp-opt-large-dns-responses


Abstract:

   This document describes an experimental method for using UDP Options
   to facilitate the transmission of large DNS responses without the
   use of IP fragmentation or fallback to TCP.



The IETF Secretariat
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Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-hardaker-dnsop-rfc8624-bis, must-not-sha1, must-not-ecc-gost

2024-04-28 Thread Paul Wouters
On Apr 27, 2024, at 20:39, Tim Wicinski  wrote:
> 
> M
> 
> 
> This starts a Call for Adoption for:
> draft-hardaker-dnsop-rfc8624-bis
> draft-hardaker-dnsop-must-not-sha1
> draft-hardaker-dnsop-must-not-ecc-gost

I support adoption for all three drafts. Willing to help with text and well 
forced to review them eventually 藍

Paul
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 - #69 Multi-provider / multi-CDN setups (1 by moonshiner)
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