Re: Openoffice.uni documentation (Re: Fwd: Documention - sort of)

2013-12-27 Thread Dave
me again: perhaps the simplest would be to put the link directly on
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation in the right hand column
under user guides - name it Apacahe OpenOffice Writer for Students ...



On 27 December 2013 20:54, Dave davepo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Dick,

 Thanks a million! However it seems to me to be a little round about way.
 Wouldn't it be possible to simply post a link to:

 openoffice-uni.org

 There visitors can choose if they prefer pdf or odt

 I prefer the document to be kept in one piece because my aim was to
 encourage readers to actually read through the whole thing and not jump
 from one section to another out of order.

 All the best
 Dave





 On 27 December 2013 19:28, Dick Groskamp th.grosk...@quicknet.nl wrote:

 Dave,

 I started putting your splendid piece of work on the wiki.

 First attempt is here:
 https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Writer_for_Students

 Is this along the way you had in mind ?

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Re: Openoffice.uni documentation (Re: Fwd: Documention - sort of)

2013-12-27 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Dave wrote:

Thanks a million! However it seems to me to be a little round about way.
Wouldn't it be possible to simply post a link to:
openoffice-uni.org
There visitors can choose if they prefer pdf or odt


(Answering multiple mails in one)
The ODF Authors model I was referring to was quite similar: we have 
the content on the wiki, and then we have links (from the wiki) to the 
original ODT and PDF sources. This is the best situation since people 
who come from search engines will go to the wiki pages (high visibility) 
and from there reach the openoffice-uni site (that will gain much higher 
visibility due to the links and contents in our Wiki).



me again: perhaps the simplest would be to put the link directly on
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation in the right hand column
under user guides - name it Apacahe OpenOffice Writer for Students .


Sure. I've just done it at 
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation (it's the left hand 
column actually). But this should be in addition to the former, and not 
a replacement. Good and up-to-date materials deserve good visibility, so 
let's go for both.



As to license: I'm open to anything which is open. Please tell me how
I should reformulate that part.


Since it is your work, this is very easy: you just replace the license 
notice in your ODT/PDF file with the text of the Appendix you find at 
http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0.html (scroll down). This 
would put the guides under the same license as OpenOffice and make 
things simpler in general.



Three students at our uni are doing an
Arab version which should be complete by March.


This is really interesting, especially considering that OpenOffice 4 in 
Arabic is close to being complete (93%) but we have no active team 
working on it. See https://translate.apache.org/ar/aoo40/ We could 
definitely work with your students so that they help translate not only 
the documentation, but the program too. This would be very beneficial to 
users.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Openoffice.uni documentation (Re: Fwd: Documention - sort of)

2013-12-27 Thread Dave
Hi Andrea,

Thanks for all the work you've put in, i'm really grateful.

Yes, I've gone for the Apache License. Will have it integrated by mid
January (I'm rechecking the English and the German parallel).

I'll ask the Arab students if they're willing to participate. At least one
of them well might be.

Is the Apache License by the way available in other languages? Or is it
best just to stick to English?

Yours
Dave


On 27 December 2013 21:35, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:

 Dave wrote:

 Thanks a million! However it seems to me to be a little round about way.
 Wouldn't it be possible to simply post a link to:
 openoffice-uni.org
 There visitors can choose if they prefer pdf or odt


 (Answering multiple mails in one)
 The ODF Authors model I was referring to was quite similar: we have the
 content on the wiki, and then we have links (from the wiki) to the original
 ODT and PDF sources. This is the best situation since people who come from
 search engines will go to the wiki pages (high visibility) and from there
 reach the openoffice-uni site (that will gain much higher visibility due to
 the links and contents in our Wiki).


  me again: perhaps the simplest would be to put the link directly on
 https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation in the right hand column
 under user guides - name it Apacahe OpenOffice Writer for Students .


 Sure. I've just done it at 
 https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation(it's the left hand column 
 actually). But this should be in addition to the
 former, and not a replacement. Good and up-to-date materials deserve good
 visibility, so let's go for both.

  As to license: I'm open to anything which is open. Please tell me how
 I should reformulate that part.


 Since it is your work, this is very easy: you just replace the license
 notice in your ODT/PDF file with the text of the Appendix you find at
 http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0.html (scroll down). This would
 put the guides under the same license as OpenOffice and make things simpler
 in general.

  Three students at our uni are doing an
 Arab version which should be complete by March.


 This is really interesting, especially considering that OpenOffice 4 in
 Arabic is close to being complete (93%) but we have no active team working
 on it. See https://translate.apache.org/ar/aoo40/ We could definitely
 work with your students so that they help translate not only the
 documentation, but the program too. This would be very beneficial to users.

 Regards,
   Andrea.


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Re: Openoffice.uni documentation (Re: Fwd: Documention - sort of)

2013-12-27 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Dave wrote:

Is the Apache License by the way available in other languages? Or is it
best just to stick to English?


The only normative version is the English one. So, whatever language the 
document is in, the license is the English one (and very often the 
notice is in English too). I'm not aware of any official translations. 
This is not due to lack of volunteers, but presumably to the huge legal 
responsibility of officially approving a translation.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Openoffice.uni documentation (Re: Fwd: Documention - sort of)

2013-12-27 Thread Dave
Ah OK, makes life easier for me :)


On 28 December 2013 01:03, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:

 Dave wrote:

 Is the Apache License by the way available in other languages? Or is it
 best just to stick to English?


 The only normative version is the English one. So, whatever language the
 document is in, the license is the English one (and very often the notice
 is in English too). I'm not aware of any official translations. This is not
 due to lack of volunteers, but presumably to the huge legal responsibility
 of officially approving a translation.


 Regards,
   Andrea.

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