Re: [docbook-apps] Re: *** GMX Spamverdacht *** [docbook-apps] To Rene Hache, Larry Garfield, Bob Stayton, Jirka Kosek - About a former XHTML accessiblity project

2007-05-14 Thread Nicolas RAINARD




M.Canales.es wrote:

  El Lunes, 14 de Mayo de 2007 15:42, Nicolas RAINARD escribió:

  
  
What is the current step of this project? Is it still undergoing or as
it been abandoned? For many reasons, I am very interested in getting
semantical, CSS styled XHTML output.
Thanks.

  
  
In LFS we have a CSS styled based customization that generates 
XHTML-1.0-Strict code. It tries also to be semantically correct (navigational 
links uses ul instead of table, for example) and to clean-up the XHTML code.

You can see the XSL and CSS costomization code based on current 
docbook-xsl-snapshot here:

http://wiki.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/browser/branches/new-xsl

All customized templates are commented listing that changes made are were can 
be found the upstream DocBook template (that are included also in the 
docbook-xsl-snapshot/ subdirectory until have the next stable DocBook-XSL 
version available).

An example of the output can be found here:

http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/~manuel/new-xsl/
  


Thank you for telling me about your project, this is pretty much what I
was looking for. The XHTML output is much cleaner to me (except, maybe,
the semantically ordered lists which are rendered as  with
hard-coded numbers). You definitively should make your work more public.

Thanks again.



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Re: [docbook-apps] To Rene Hache, Larry Garfield, Bob Stayton, Jirka Kosek - About a former XHTML accessiblity project

2007-05-14 Thread Nicolas RAINARD



Dave Pawson wrote:

Nicolas RAINARD wrote:
Several years ago, you were talking about getting "Simpler XHTML 
output" (initiating thread can be found at 
http://www.cygwin.com/ml/docbook-apps/2005-q2/msg00230.html).
The whole discussion broached in accessibility and CSS layout, 
instead of tables layout. 

Bob may correct me, but AFAIK docbook doesn't use table based layout
and any CSS additions are the authors, not a part of the standard
docbook formatting, though provision is made for CSS usage.



I don't know how it goes for general layout, but I am absolutely sure a 
table layout is used for QandAset (what I wanted for my first DocBook). 
This is why I spent a whole day to search how I could resolve this. I 
used the 5.0 XSLT and it seems it processes pretty much as the 4.x do. I 
had a glimpse in the XSLT2 snapshot, and I didn't find a XHTML output in 
this release. Maybe is it still automatically generated from the HTML 
one? I am not sure it is the best way, for transitional HTML and strict 
XHTML have few things in common.


Moreover, the QandAset is rendered with definition lists () 
instead of ordered lists (), which makes me puzzled...




It seems you started a new project: to make a brand  new forked XHTML 
XSL.
What is the current step of this project? Is it still undergoing or 
as it been abandoned? For many reasons, I am very interested in 
getting semantical, CSS styled XHTML output.


So are many of us, which is why we choose docbook!




Maybe am I wrong and then, could you tell me how I can get a "pure", 
table-less output?


Thanks.

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RE: [docbook-apps] Docbook Editors

2007-05-14 Thread Skopik Pavel
Hello,

I would recommend XMLmind XML Editor. It uses CSS to display the edited
content and can be quite easily customised to suit your needs (e.g.
custom menu items, commands, CSS etc.). It has also some advanced
validation features (schematron). 

They offer personal (free) or professional edition (not free).

Moreover, it has everything you need to convert e.g. DocBook, DITA to
various formats. 

Greetings

Pavel

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Hello,

I would like to use an editor for writing Docbook, preferably WYSIWYG.
I used to write Latex with GVIM (non-wysiwyg), but trying to do the 
same for Docbook XML is too much overhead, code wise.
Which editors are used with Docbook? Can anyone please recommend? Are 
there free editors? Are there commercial editors that are good?

Thank you in advance.

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Re: [docbook-apps] Docbook Editors

2007-05-14 Thread Sean Wheller
On Monday 14 May 2007 15:01:23 Eitan Zabari wrote:
> I would like to use an editor for writing Docbook, preferably WYSIWYG.
> I used to write Latex with GVIM (non-wysiwyg), but trying to do the
> same for Docbook XML is too much overhead, code wise.
> Which editors are used with Docbook? Can anyone please recommend? Are
> there free editors? Are there commercial editors that are good?

Not free, but if you want a word replacement look at Syntext Serna.

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RE: [docbook-apps] Docbook Editors

2007-05-14 Thread Pedro Pastor
Well, I’ve tried several XML editors for editing, and from my experience:
 
1)   XMetal: Good compromise price/WYSIWYG performance at the cost of
some Scripting (not very complicated). The price for a seat license is
moderate.
2)   Oxygen: My editor of choice for developing code (XML, XSLT,
XQuery,…), but it has some very basic “WYSOWYG features.
3)   FrameMaker: The most impressive tool for real XML/SGML WYSIGYG
editing. It has 2 important drawbacks:
A)  It is very very expensive.
B)  The way it deals with structured content is very… peculiar. It works
with it own structure definition language (EDD) and template definition
tools. Everything has to be converted to and from EDD, you have to define
mappings (XML applications in FrameMaker parlance),…
  As I told you, it is an impressive tool, BUT it need too much setting
up, scripting… and even (in some specific cases) C programming. I think is
most “documentation-company”-Oriented (you need some engineer devoted to
maintain your XML applications). I don’t think is worthwhile for occasional
individual writer.
It provides DocBook and DITA applications “ready-to-use”
(supposed to be), but in fact it is not that simple.
 
I hope that helps.
 
Pedro
 
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De: Colin Shapiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Enviado el: lunes, 14 de mayo de 2007 17:47
Para: David Cramer (Tech Pubs)
CC: docbook-apps@lists.oasis-open.org
Asunto: Re: [docbook-apps] Docbook Editors
 
How can XML editors be WYSIWYG, when there's no way to tell what a document
will look like after XSLT?

Or do they basically do "on-the-fly" transformations, to preview what it
will look like in HTML, in print, etc.? 

Just curious.
On 5/14/07, David Cramer (Tech Pubs) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
XMetaL can be scripted to do anything, but it doesn't have many friendly
DocBook macros out of the box. The included demo Journalist DTD is
similar to DocBook and those macros and features can be converted by
renaming some elements. XMLMind's XXE and Syntext's Serna offer much
better DocBook support out of the box. I know Arbortext's Epic has
DocBook support, but I'm not sure what it has out of the box wrt 
convenience macros. I think those are the main four commercial wysiwyg
editors these days.

David

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Re: [docbook-apps] Visio 2003 vector graphics in docbook

2007-05-14 Thread Chris Chiasson

This is still broken in Visio 2007. Let's hear it for closed source...

On 1/28/07, Jirka Kosek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Sebastian Fey wrote:

> Best would be support for MS SVGExtensions, or maybe a way to make visio
> export without these extensions...

Those SVG extensions are useful only for round-tripping. SVG file from
Visio will render correctly in compliant SVG renderer. There is only one
problem with markers -- Visio contains small bug which makes markers
disappear for example in XEP. This should be fixed in Visio 2007 (I
hadn't tested it) as MS accepted my bug report (well, it took almost
year and ten emails which were not very nice though ;-).

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RE: [docbook-apps] Undesired space above itemizedlist in table in PDF output

2007-05-14 Thread Dennison, Cheri
Ah, very good. Thanks a bunch for the help! 

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Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 8:41 AM
To: Dennison, Cheri; docbook-apps@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [docbook-apps] Undesired space above itemizedlist in table
in PDF output

Hi Cheri,
The problem is that FOP 0.20.5 does not discard space-before when in a
table cell as it should.
If you replace FOP 0.20.5 with the latest FOP 0.93, the problem goes
away.

Bob Stayton
Sagehill Enterprises
DocBook Consulting
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[docbook-apps] Re: *** GMX Spamverdacht *** [docbook-apps] To Rene Hache, Larry Garfield, Bob Stayton, Jirka Kosek - About a former XHTML accessiblity project

2007-05-14 Thread M.Canales.es
El Lunes, 14 de Mayo de 2007 15:42, Nicolas RAINARD escribió:

> What is the current step of this project? Is it still undergoing or as
> it been abandoned? For many reasons, I am very interested in getting
> semantical, CSS styled XHTML output.
> Thanks.

In LFS we have a CSS styled based customization that generates 
XHTML-1.0-Strict code. It tries also to be semantically correct (navigational 
links uses ul instead of table, for example) and to clean-up the XHTML code.

You can see the XSL and CSS costomization code based on current 
docbook-xsl-snapshot here:

http://wiki.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/browser/branches/new-xsl

All customized templates are commented listing that changes made are were can 
be found the upstream DocBook template (that are included also in the 
docbook-xsl-snapshot/ subdirectory until have the next stable DocBook-XSL 
version available).

An example of the output can be found here:

http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/~manuel/new-xsl/


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RE: [docbook-apps] Docbook Editors

2007-05-14 Thread David Cramer (Tech Pubs)
Well, they give you _a_ rendered view anyway. Lists look like lists,
tables look like tables (and you can drag column borders to change
widths), images are rendered in place. Serna uses xsl/xsl-fo to drive
its rendered view. XXE and XMetaL use CSS with some extensions. You
might have buttons to show or hide certain content (e.g. s, and
internal or reviewer only content) that likewise may or may not be shown
in a given output. Our inline glossterms are light green in the editor
(as a convenience to the writer) but are not formatted at all in pdf and
show up as tooltip popups with light underlining in html. XXE and (I
think) Serna can show you xincluded text inline and (again I think) let
you edit it in place. 
 
David




From: Colin Shapiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 10:47 AM
To: David Cramer (Tech Pubs)
Cc: docbook-apps@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [docbook-apps] Docbook Editors


How can XML editors be WYSIWYG, when there's no way to tell what
a document will look like after XSLT?

Or do they basically do "on-the-fly" transformations, to preview
what it will look like in HTML, in print, etc.? 

Just curious.


On 5/14/07, David Cramer (Tech Pubs) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


XMetaL can be scripted to do anything, but it doesn't
have many friendly
DocBook macros out of the box. The included demo
Journalist DTD is
similar to DocBook and those macros and features can be
converted by
renaming some elements. XMLMind's XXE and Syntext's
Serna offer much
better DocBook support out of the box. I know
Arbortext's Epic has
DocBook support, but I'm not sure what it has out of the
box wrt 
convenience macros. I think those are the main four
commercial wysiwyg
editors these days.

David

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> Subject: Re: [docbook-apps] Docbook Editors
>
> XXE? XMetaL?
>
> On 5/14/07, Eitan Zabari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> > Hello,
> >
> > I would like to use an editor for writing Docbook,
> preferably WYSIWYG.
> > I used to write Latex with GVIM (non-wysiwyg), but
trying to do the
> > same for Docbook XML is too much overhead, code
wise. 
> > Which editors are used with Docbook? Can anyone
please
> recommend? Are
> > there free editors? Are there commercial editors
that are good?
> >
> > Thank you in advance.
> > 
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Re: [docbook-apps] Docbook Editors

2007-05-14 Thread Colin Shapiro

How can XML editors be WYSIWYG, when there's no way to tell what a document
will look like after XSLT?

Or do they basically do "on-the-fly" transformations, to preview what it
will look like in HTML, in print, etc.?

Just curious.

On 5/14/07, David Cramer (Tech Pubs) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


XMetaL can be scripted to do anything, but it doesn't have many friendly
DocBook macros out of the box. The included demo Journalist DTD is
similar to DocBook and those macros and features can be converted by
renaming some elements. XMLMind's XXE and Syntext's Serna offer much
better DocBook support out of the box. I know Arbortext's Epic has
DocBook support, but I'm not sure what it has out of the box wrt
convenience macros. I think those are the main four commercial wysiwyg
editors these days.

David

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> On 5/14/07, Eitan Zabari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I would like to use an editor for writing Docbook,
> preferably WYSIWYG.
> > I used to write Latex with GVIM (non-wysiwyg), but trying to do the
> > same for Docbook XML is too much overhead, code wise.
> > Which editors are used with Docbook? Can anyone please
> recommend? Are
> > there free editors? Are there commercial editors that are good?
> >
> > Thank you in advance.
> >
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Re: [docbook-apps] Undesired space above itemizedlist in table in PDF output

2007-05-14 Thread Bob Stayton

Hi Cheri,
The problem is that FOP 0.20.5 does not discard space-before when in a 
table cell as it should.

If you replace FOP 0.20.5 with the latest FOP 0.93, the problem goes away.

Bob Stayton
Sagehill Enterprises
DocBook Consulting
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To: 
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 5:05 PM
Subject: [docbook-apps] Undesired space above itemizedlist in table in PDF 
output



Hi,

I'm using:
* Saxon 6.5.5
* Xerces 2.8.0
* Apache FOP 0.20.5

Setup:
Imagine you have a table with two columns.
The cells in the left column contain text directly inside  tags.
The cells in the right column contain itemizedlists, typically with
 or  tags like so:






Because  and  tags can't go directly inside 
tags, I wrap them in  tags.

Problem:
* The text in the left column's cells is aligned vertically at the
top of the cell. This is the desired behavior.
* The lists in the right column's cells have space above/below the
list. This is not the desired behavior. I'd like for the lists to
vertically align to the top of the cell to match the corresponding text
in the left column. I can live with space below the list; but I'd love
the space at the top of the list to disappear. Is that possible?


Of course, a workaround is just to wrap the text in the left column's
cells in  tags so the text and lists in the right column have the
same space above them. But I'd rather not do that if there's a way to
avoid it.

Thanks for any insight you have!
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RE: [docbook-apps] Docbook Editors

2007-05-14 Thread David Cramer (Tech Pubs)
XMetaL can be scripted to do anything, but it doesn't have many friendly
DocBook macros out of the box. The included demo Journalist DTD is
similar to DocBook and those macros and features can be converted by
renaming some elements. XMLMind's XXE and Syntext's Serna offer much
better DocBook support out of the box. I know Arbortext's Epic has
DocBook support, but I'm not sure what it has out of the box wrt
convenience macros. I think those are the main four commercial wysiwyg
editors these days.

David

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> Subject: Re: [docbook-apps] Docbook Editors
> 
> XXE? XMetaL?
> 
> On 5/14/07, Eitan Zabari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I would like to use an editor for writing Docbook, 
> preferably WYSIWYG.
> > I used to write Latex with GVIM (non-wysiwyg), but trying to do the 
> > same for Docbook XML is too much overhead, code wise.
> > Which editors are used with Docbook? Can anyone please 
> recommend? Are 
> > there free editors? Are there commercial editors that are good?
> >
> > Thank you in advance.
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Re: [docbook-apps] Docbook Editors

2007-05-14 Thread Chris Chiasson

XXE? XMetaL?

On 5/14/07, Eitan Zabari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hello,

I would like to use an editor for writing Docbook, preferably WYSIWYG.
I used to write Latex with GVIM (non-wysiwyg), but trying to do the
same for Docbook XML is too much overhead, code wise.
Which editors are used with Docbook? Can anyone please recommend? Are
there free editors? Are there commercial editors that are good?

Thank you in advance.

__
Eitan Zabari
Technical Communicator

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RE: [docbook-apps] Docbook Editors

2007-05-14 Thread Johnson, Eric
There is XML Mind which is pretty good and does have a free version. The
only drawback is that they do not support text entities. You can also
check out Serna. It is good, but can be very slow. Both are WYSIWYG. 

> -Original Message-
> From: Paul Hewlett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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> To: docbook-apps@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: Re: [docbook-apps] Docbook Editors
> 
> On Monday 14 May 2007 15:01, Eitan Zabari wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I would like to use an editor for writing Docbook, 
> preferably WYSIWYG.
> > I used to write Latex with GVIM (non-wysiwyg), but trying to do the 
> > same for Docbook XML is too much overhead, code wise.
> > Which editors are used with Docbook? Can anyone please 
> recommend? Are 
> > there free editors? Are there commercial editors that are good?
> >
> I use Quanta Plus which has a docbook mode although it is not 
> WYSIWYG. I also would like a better editor ...
> 
> Paul
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Re: [docbook-apps] Docbook Editors

2007-05-14 Thread Paul Hewlett
On Monday 14 May 2007 15:01, Eitan Zabari wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I would like to use an editor for writing Docbook, preferably WYSIWYG.
> I used to write Latex with GVIM (non-wysiwyg), but trying to do the
> same for Docbook XML is too much overhead, code wise.
> Which editors are used with Docbook? Can anyone please recommend? Are
> there free editors? Are there commercial editors that are good?
>
I use Quanta Plus which has a docbook mode although it is not WYSIWYG. I also 
would like a better editor ...

Paul

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Re: [docbook-apps] To Rene Hache, Larry Garfield, Bob Stayton, Jirka Kosek - About a former XHTML accessiblity project

2007-05-14 Thread Dave Pawson

Nicolas RAINARD wrote:
Several years ago, you were talking about getting "Simpler XHTML output" 
(initiating thread can be found at 
http://www.cygwin.com/ml/docbook-apps/2005-q2/msg00230.html).
The whole discussion broached in accessibility and CSS layout, instead 
of tables layout. 

Bob may correct me, but AFAIK docbook doesn't use table based layout
and any CSS additions are the authors, not a part of the standard
docbook formatting, though provision is made for CSS usage.


It seems you started a new project: to make a brand

new forked XHTML XSL.
What is the current step of this project? Is it still undergoing or as 
it been abandoned? For many reasons, I am very interested in getting 
semantical, CSS styled XHTML output.


So are many of us, which is why we choose docbook!


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[docbook-apps] To Rene Hache, Larry Garfield, Bob Stayton, Jirka Kosek - About a former XHTML accessiblity project

2007-05-14 Thread Nicolas RAINARD
Several years ago, you were talking about getting "Simpler XHTML output" 
(initiating thread can be found at 
http://www.cygwin.com/ml/docbook-apps/2005-q2/msg00230.html).
The whole discussion broached in accessibility and CSS layout, instead 
of tables layout. It seems you started a new project: to make a brand 
new forked XHTML XSL.
What is the current step of this project? Is it still undergoing or as 
it been abandoned? For many reasons, I am very interested in getting 
semantical, CSS styled XHTML output.

Thanks.

Nicolas R.

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[docbook-apps] Docbook Editors

2007-05-14 Thread Eitan Zabari

Hello,

I would like to use an editor for writing Docbook, preferably WYSIWYG.
I used to write Latex with GVIM (non-wysiwyg), but trying to do the 
same for Docbook XML is too much overhead, code wise.
Which editors are used with Docbook? Can anyone please recommend? Are 
there free editors? Are there commercial editors that are good?


Thank you in advance.

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[docbook-apps] DocBook dinner update

2007-05-14 Thread Jirka Kosek
Hello,

just a short reminder that DocBook dinner
(http://xmlguru.cz/2007/04/docbook-dinner) is approaching.

I will be waiting in lobby of Novotel Paris Tour Eiffel hotel from 19:00
(local Paris time), May 17th, 2007. We can collect there and around
19:20 we can continue to chosen restaurant.

UPDATE: Jacques Foucry kindly made reservation in Pouchla, 10 rue
Mandar. The nearest metro station is "Etienne Marcel" on the line 4. The
nearest metro station form the novotel is "Charles Michels" on line 10.
You have to take line 10 "direction Gare d'Austerlitz", get off at
"Odéon" then take line 4 "direction Porte de Clignancourt" and get off
at "Etienne Marcel".

So if you can't join us in hotel lobby, you can join us later directly
in pub.

If you are interested in dinner please indicate so by posting comment at
the page above by responding off-list to this email. I have several
spare DocBook buttons which I will give away during the dinner, so don't
miss this opportunity.

Looking forward to see many of you at Thursday,

Jirka

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Re: [docbook-apps] olink problems

2007-05-14 Thread Janning Vygen
Am Sonntag, 13. Mai 2007 18:59 schrieb Mauritz Jeanson:
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Janning Vygen
> > While processing my webpages i am getting MANY errors like this:
> >
> > Element div in namespace '' encountered in document, but no
> > template matches.
> > Element ttl in namespace '' encountered in div, but no
> > template matches.
> >
> > It seems that somewhere the xsl tries to apply its templates to the
> > website.database.xml file.
>
> [...]
>
> > %.html: autolayout.xml website.database.xml $(STYLEDIR)/*xsl
> > $(XSLTPROC) \
> > --output  $@ \
> > --novalid \
> > --stringparam autolayout-file $(CURDIR)/autolayout.xml \
> > --stringparam website.database.document
> > $(CURDIR)/website.database.xml
> > \
> > --stringparam output-root  $(HTDIR)  \
> > --stringparam l10n.gentext.default.language $(LANGUAGE)  \
> > $(STYLEDIR)/main.xsl \
> > $(filter-out autolayout.xml %xsl,$^)
>
> The errors should go away if you add website.database.xml to the pattern to
> be filtered out:
>
> $(filter-out autolayout.xml website.database.xml %xsl,$^)

Yes, you are right. Thanks a lot!

kind regards,
janning

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