RE: [libreoffice-documentation] RE: Oracle Open Office Guides - license

2012-11-28 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I believe the Oracle employee who has contributed substantial effort to the 
shepherding of the contribution into Apache OpenOffice has seen questions about 
that documentation and also about training materials that Oracle prepared.  

I don't believe any response is available.  

I'll mention this to him and see if there is likely to be anything happening.

 - Dennis

PS: I also don't think it is known what the editable format is and whether 
editable forms have been preserved.



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From: bfo [mailto:bfo.bugm...@spamgourmet.com] 
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Dennis E. Hamilton wrote
 As far as I know, the Oracle Open Office Guides are not part of the grant
 to Apache OpenOffice.

Hi!
Anyone reading this know the people responsible for those docs? Maybe there
is a chance to convince Oracle to donate these files, as still Guides for
OOo/LO are not available in some languages. Docs by Oracle are very good
start.  On the other way it is easier to update than to reinvent the wording
or sentences describing the same options...
Best regards.



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[libreoffice-documentation] RE: Oracle Open Office Guides - license

2012-11-28 Thread bfo
Dennis E. Hamilton wrote
 I'll mention this to him and see if there is likely to be anything
 happening.

Hi!
Any we won't suit you if you copy'n'paste our text and make freely
available guides with a side note of the source material rubberstamp would
be great news for some languages.
Best regards.




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[libreoffice-documentation] RE: Oracle Open Office Guides - license

2012-11-28 Thread bfo
bfo wrote
 
 Dennis E. Hamilton wrote
 I'll mention this to him and see if there is likely to be anything
 happening.
 Hi!
 Any we won't suit you if you copy'n'paste our text and make freely
 available guides with a side note of the source material rubberstamp
 would be great news for some languages.
 Best regards.

OMG. This should be like:

Any we won't sue you if you copy'n'paste our text and make freely available
guides with a side note of the source material rubberstamp would be great
news for some languages.





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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] RE: Oracle Open Office Guides - license

2012-11-28 Thread Leo Moons

Hello,

There is no need for the Dutch version of these guides. Most of it is 
covered in the translated ODFAuthors guides.


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Op 28-11-12 20:52, bfo schreef:

bfo wrote

Dennis E. Hamilton wrote

I'll mention this to him and see if there is likely to be anything
happening.

Hi!
Any we won't suit you if you copy'n'paste our text and make freely
available guides with a side note of the source material rubberstamp
would be great news for some languages.
Best regards.

OMG. This should be like:

Any we won't sue you if you copy'n'paste our text and make freely available
guides with a side note of the source material rubberstamp would be great
news for some languages.





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RE: [libreoffice-documentation] RE: Oracle Open Office Guides - license

2012-11-28 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I checked around.  Nothing is expected from Oracle with regard to those 
documents. I have no details, but it seems to not be an option.

With regard to what someone might do on their own, I have nothing to say.

Sorry,

 - Dennis

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From: bfo [mailto:bfo.bugm...@spamgourmet.com] 
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bfo wrote
 
 Dennis E. Hamilton wrote
 I'll mention this to him and see if there is likely to be anything
 happening.
 Hi!
 Any we won't suit you if you copy'n'paste our text and make freely
 available guides with a side note of the source material rubberstamp
 would be great news for some languages.
 Best regards.

OMG. This should be like:

Any we won't sue you if you copy'n'paste our text and make freely available
guides with a side note of the source material rubberstamp would be great
news for some languages.





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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Oracle Open Office Guides - license

2012-11-28 Thread Jay Lozier

On 11/27/2012 12:41 PM, bfo wrote:

Hi!
I thought this is the place to ask, hope someone knows the answer...
Oracle translated its Oracle Open Office Getting Started Guides into several
languages.
They are available as pdf files or online. For instance:
- Hungarian http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19957-01/821-1806/index.html
- Dutch http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19957-01/821-1807/index.html
- Polish http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19957-01/821-1808/index.html
As the work is already done this would be great possibility to upgrade those
guides to LibreOffice new versions (or AOOo).
Does anyone on this list know the legal status of those documents? Their
notes seems unchanged as copyrighted and for license buyers only, and as
this product is abandoned, do you think that those ever will be donated?
Anyone know anything about those guides? Translators, people at Oracle
involved? Big thanks in advance for any information or hints.
Best regards.
P.S.
Anyone having AOOo pals handy - please ask about it (as they received some
stuff from Oracle already the official way)...




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Checking two of the links are reading a translation of the text I read a 
standard copyright notice for all rights reserved. My understanding is 
that you can download them for personal use only. Any copying, etc is 
forbidden by the notice.


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