[libreoffice-documentation] Re: [Libreoffice-commits] help.git: Mac does have a "Control" key

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi Stephan, *,

On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 10:36 AM, Stephan Bergmann  wrote:
> On 04/24/2017 09:15 AM, Stephan Bergmann wrote:
>>
>> commit 0205b43e4d518239ff3d6b9bed0cc9317939acd9
>> Author: Stephan Bergmann 
>> Date:   Mon Apr 24 09:11:24 2017 +0200
>>
>>  Mac does have a "Control" key
>>   (even labeled "Ctrl" on my German MacBook keyboard, not "Strg"
>> as the
>>  localization of "Ctrl" on German standard PC-style keyboards), and
>> Writer's
>>  "Format - Clear Direct Formatting" (which this help item is
>> presumably about) is
>>  indeed Ctrl+M (labeled "^M" in the menu) on macOS.
>>   So unconditionally use "Ctrl+M" here for now, notwithstanding
>> potential Mac
>>  localization issues (see that German "Ctrl" vs "Strg" issue).
>
>
> I have no idea how we generally handle this issue in documentation and
> translation: always use generic "Ctrl+M" (whatever that gets translated to);
> use some mark-up to ensure (German etc.) translation will be "Strg+M" for
> non-Mac and "Ctrl+M" for Mac; use "Control+M" on Mac (as had been done prior

Even if Macs might have a ctrl key now, most of the functions/commands
are done with the command key, so it is not a mapping of changing the
label of a key in the docs, it is actaully referring to a different
keycombination.

> to
> 
> "I don’t think Macs have Control keys…"; or...?

that is wrong. Just replacing cmd with ctrl won't make that shortcut
work with ctrl+M

ciao
Christian

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[libreoffice-documentation] Re: [Libreoffice-commits] help.git: Mac does have a "Control" key

[Stephan Bergmann]

On 04/24/2017 09:15 AM, Stephan Bergmann wrote:

commit 0205b43e4d518239ff3d6b9bed0cc9317939acd9
Author: Stephan Bergmann 
Date:   Mon Apr 24 09:11:24 2017 +0200

 Mac does have a "Control" key
 
 (even labeled "Ctrl" on my German MacBook keyboard, not "Strg" as the

 localization of "Ctrl" on German standard PC-style keyboards), and Writer's
 "Format - Clear Direct Formatting" (which this help item is presumably 
about) is
 indeed Ctrl+M (labeled "^M" in the menu) on macOS.
 
 So unconditionally use "Ctrl+M" here for now, notwithstanding potential Mac

 localization issues (see that German "Ctrl" vs "Strg" issue).


I have no idea how we generally handle this issue in documentation and 
translation: always use generic "Ctrl+M" (whatever that gets translated 
to); use some mark-up to ensure (German etc.) translation will be 
"Strg+M" for non-Mac and "Ctrl+M" for Mac; use "Control+M" on Mac (as 
had been done prior to 
 
"I don’t think Macs have Control keys…"; or...?


 
 This corrects 9ed1958ba7f75bb4184f09d79814849d06313d72 "I don’t think Macs have

 Control keys…"
 
 Change-Id: I2f62c95341fc4079686ac616965675b307a97fde


diff --git a/source/text/shared/04/0101.xhp 
b/source/text/shared/04/0101.xhp
index e21c42acf..b6cf9781e 100644
--- a/source/text/shared/04/0101.xhp
+++ b/source/text/shared/04/0101.xhp
@@ -488,7 +488,7 @@
   
   
  
-   CommandCtrl+M
+   Ctrl+M
  
  
 Removes direct formatting from selected text or objects (as in Format - Clear Direct 
Formatting)


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[libreoffice-documentation] Re: [Libreoffice-commits] help.git: Mac does have a "Control" key

[Adolfo Jayme Barrientos]

> I have no idea how we generally handle this issue in documentation and 
> translation: always use generic "Ctrl+M" (whatever that gets translated to); 
> use some mark-up to ensure (German etc.) translation will be "Strg+M" for 
> non-Mac and "Ctrl+M" for Mac; use "Control+M" on Mac […]

I think the best course here is to revert to the previous state and
label the Mac Control key with its symbol, “⌃” (U+2303). I’ll do that.

Thank you for correcting my brainfart.

Adolfo

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