[DQSD-Users] Update to Windows 7 RC 64 Bit Installation
All, One update to the steps outlined below (no the 64 bit IE problem is not solved). Turning the Quick Search toolbar Off by right clicking the TaskbarTools option WILL FAIL and cause an Explorer restart UNLESS the Taskbar is LOCKED. Dont ask me why, that is for the developers. 8=) If you want to turn the Quick Search Toolbar on or off then first LOCK the Taskbar (A MUST if you want to turn it OFF!). If you are turning it ON - first lock the Taskbar, turn it on and then unlock the Taskbar to adjust the size, etc. Note: Another 64 bit port of one of my favorites, ICONOID, has a similar problem with Windows 7 RC 64 bit. The tray icon will not appear unless the taskbar is locked. Hm... Later! -Original Message- From: James Nix [mailto:ni...@charter.net] Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 5:43 PM To: 'DQSD users mailing list' Subject: Re: [DQSD-Users] Windows 7 RC 64 Bit Install Help needed Well, good news and bad news. The good news is I have it working. The bad news is it can be difficult to remove if the installation screws up in a certain way. See notes below!!! The steps I came up with avoid some Windows 7 security checks without disabling them altogether. I will list the general steps, not every Windows UAC Confirm this step message. Note that I use TweakUAC to suppress most of them anyway. 1) Download the dqsdx64-4100-beta.zip package to a location you will remember. :-) 2) Right click the dqsdx64-4100-beta.zip package and select Properties. At the bottom of the dialog there may be a message Security: This file came from another computer and might be blocked to help protect this computer Click the Unblock button. Click Apply then close the Properties dialog. 3) Repeat Step 2 above and VERIFY THAT THERE IS NO SECURITY MESSAGE 4) Create a temporary folder for easy Command Window access - I used C:\Temp. Unzip the dqsdx64-4100-beta.zip file (keeping folder names) into C:\Temp. 5) Navigate to C:\Temp\DQSDx64. Check a couple of .JS files and verify that the files do not have the Security message in their Properties (see step 2). 6) Create a new desktop shortcut - Target: CMD.EXE ; Name Command Window 7) CREATE A SYSTEM RESTORE POINT. IF THE INSTALLATION SCREWS UP THE DQSD CLOCK SCRIPT ERROR WILL MAKE IT DIFFICULT TO REMOVE DQSD. THE EASIEST FIX IT IS TO DO A SYSTEM RESTORE. 8) Right click the Command Window shortcut created in step 6 and click Run as Administrator 9) In the command window navigate to the installation folder C:\Temp\DQSDx64 (or where the Unzipped files are). 10) Type SETUPX64.CMD - follow the prompts. 11) When install is complete, with no errors (Hope!) you will have to right click the taskbar and select Toolbars twice before Quick Search appears. NOTES: There is no entry in Programs and Features to remove/uninstall DQSDx64. I could not find one in the install folder either. Also, once you have turned the toolbar on by right clicking the TaskbarToolbars any attempt to turn it off causes Explorer to restart with DQSD still there. Additionally if the installation has javascript errors in the CLOCK.JS (?) for whatever reason, it is virtually impossible to delete the install folder in order to start over/reinstall, even when booting to SAFE MODE. That is the why the RESTORE POINT above is important. If the install fails - you can restore your system. Should an error crop up in the future, the only thing I can think of off-hand is to boot to a command prompt an delete the installation folder manually. Whew I hope I got all that right! If they are not followed you may find it diff -Original Message- From: Charlie Russel [mailto:char...@scribes.com] Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 3:48 PM To: DQSD users mailing list Subject: Re: [DQSD-Users] Windows 7 RC 64 Bit Install Help needed I haven't even tried on Win7. Given the changes in the task bar, I'm not confident that it would work. We are really up against it at this point, and I think we need to find a way to work within the MS guidelines if we don't want to face this every time they ship a new version. Perhaps as a Windows Gadget? Charlie. -Original Message- From: Kim Gräsman [mailto:kim.gras...@gmail.com] Sent: May-11-09 11:08 AM To: DQSD users mailing list Subject: Re: [DQSD-Users] Windows 7 RC 64 Bit Install Help needed Hi James, In theory, you should just unpack the zip and run setupx64.cmd from the root directory as administrator. I don't know if there are any specifics related to Windows 7. Cheers, - Kim On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 17:34, James Nix ni...@charter.net wrote: Hello, I am trying to install the dqsdx64-4100-beta.zip package on a Windows 7 RC1 64 bit system. I never have used the 64 bit installation kit before. So far I have had no luck but that may be due to my mistakes. Has anyone installed to the Windows 7 RC1 64 bit system before? If so, please provide
Re: [DQSD-Users] Update to Windows 7 RC 64 Bit Installation
Hi James, On Tue, 26 May 2009 16:44:16 -0400, you [James Nix] wrote: }One update to the steps outlined below (no the 64 bit IE problem is }not solved). My installation of DQSD is not behaving the same as yours under Win 7 64bit. Normally my default browser is Firefox. I changed the default browser to Explorer 64bit. DQSD brought up the 32bit Explorer when asked for a search. I then reverted to Firefox, as default, with no problem. I seem to recall that you went through a rather convoluted install of DQSD while I used the procedure as outlined by Kim Grasman in beb8aa2f0902100549g34fdbc57ob41170bc6eae4...@mail.gmail.com on Tue, 10 Feb 2009 14:49:52, which worked well. Maybe a re-install is in order? -- Bill -- Register Now for Creativity and Technology (CaT), June 3rd, NYC. CaT is a gathering of tech-side developers brand creativity professionals. Meet the minds behind Google Creative Lab, Visual Complexity, Processing, iPhoneDevCamp as they present alongside digital heavyweights like Barbarian Group, R/GA, Big Spaceship. http://p.sf.net/sfu/creativitycat-com ___ To unsubscribe visit: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users DQSD-Users@lists.sourceforge.net http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
Re: [DQSD-Users] Update to Windows 7 RC 64 Bit Installation
Which version of Win 7 64 bit are you running? What is your UAC setting? The install steps I outlined for a clean install (8=)) aren't THAT convoluted. But they do emphasize a couple of steps required to overcome some Win 7 security checks. I looked at the email you referenced. That was not a particularly clear installation guide. I did try the install steps as provided in the readme. They did not work as written because of Win7 security quirks. Even my steps still omit changing the security on the actual localprefs.js, etc files. Only really significant if you want to edit them from the DQSD Configure menus. Anyway, I have it working except for the 64 bit IEPLORE.EXE. And that is only a PIA because Adobe has not produced a 64 bit flash player. And they have money! :-) Jim -Original Message- From: bill.hew...@sentex.net [mailto:bill.hew...@sentex.net] Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 5:11 PM To: DQSD users mailing list Subject: Re: [DQSD-Users] Update to Windows 7 RC 64 Bit Installation Hi James, On Tue, 26 May 2009 16:44:16 -0400, you [James Nix] wrote: }One update to the steps outlined below (no the 64 bit IE problem is }not solved). My installation of DQSD is not behaving the same as yours under Win 7 64bit. Normally my default browser is Firefox. I changed the default browser to Explorer 64bit. DQSD brought up the 32bit Explorer when asked for a search. I then reverted to Firefox, as default, with no problem. I seem to recall that you went through a rather convoluted install of DQSD while I used the procedure as outlined by Kim Grasman in beb8aa2f0902100549g34fdbc57ob41170bc6eae4...@mail.gmail.com on Tue, 10 Feb 2009 14:49:52, which worked well. Maybe a re-install is in order? -- Bill -- Register Now for Creativity and Technology (CaT), June 3rd, NYC. CaT is a gathering of tech-side developers brand creativity professionals. Meet the minds behind Google Creative Lab, Visual Complexity, Processing, iPhoneDevCamp as they present alongside digital heavyweights like Barbarian Group, R/GA, Big Spaceship. http://p.sf.net/sfu/creativitycat-com ___ To unsubscribe visit: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users DQSD-Users@lists.sourceforge.net http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601 -- Register Now for Creativity and Technology (CaT), June 3rd, NYC. CaT is a gathering of tech-side developers brand creativity professionals. Meet the minds behind Google Creative Lab, Visual Complexity, Processing, iPhoneDevCamp as they present alongside digital heavyweights like Barbarian Group, R/GA, Big Spaceship. http://p.sf.net/sfu/creativitycat-com ___ To unsubscribe visit: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users DQSD-Users@lists.sourceforge.net http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
Re: [DQSD-Users] Update to Windows 7 RC 64 Bit Installation
Hi James, On Tue, 26 May 2009 17:57:05 -0400, you [James Nix] wrote: }Which version of Win 7 64 bit are you running? }What is your UAC setting? This is the RC version. I believe that I have turned the UAC off. I am in Vista at the moment, but will check later and if different will let you know. I cheated a little on the Win 7 install of DQSD. I originally installed the 64bit version on Vista and extracted the distribution to a folder I named DQSD64 in the root. I then ran the DQSDx64.cmd application from a DOS console which installed DQSD in the Program Files folder. For Win 7 I just copied the Vista root DQSD64 folder across to the Win 7 root and ran the DQSDx64.cmd in a DOS console. My Win 7 DQSD is running fine - the only exception is the lack of control of the taskbar window. Hope some of this helps... -- Bill -- Register Now for Creativity and Technology (CaT), June 3rd, NYC. CaT is a gathering of tech-side developers brand creativity professionals. Meet the minds behind Google Creative Lab, Visual Complexity, Processing, iPhoneDevCamp as they present alongside digital heavyweights like Barbarian Group, R/GA, Big Spaceship. http://p.sf.net/sfu/creativitycat-com ___ To unsubscribe visit: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users DQSD-Users@lists.sourceforge.net http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
