Re: [Drakelist] TX-4C 160 Mod ?
On Dec 21, 2011, at 12:26 PM, Ron wrote: I sold my incomplete set of HR mags when I purchased the entire PDF collection. The PDF of the page that the dial is on is not that great. OTOH you might be able to use it for a starting point to do image restoration and enhancement. Which set do you have? There are two out there. The first set was produced by a ham on his own. It was sold as a set of two DVD-ROMs. I don't know his motivation, but based upon the price he charged I think he was trying to preserve a dying art. I don't think he understood that HR magazine did not simply cease to exist, they stopped publishing magazines and sold the rights to what they had published. Later the holder of the copyrights, CQ magazine, produced an official set on CD. The quality of the images from the other set was much better. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM My high blood pressure medicine reduces my midichlorian count. :-( ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
[Drakelist] Nastiest Drake Gear
I'm going to nominate this as the most-abused, nastiest-looking piece of Drake gear I've ever seen: http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=260919992177ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123 I wouldn't even bet that the meter's working given how much moisture this one has seen. Enjoy those Drakes - but not underwater... Steve, W1ES/4 ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
Re: [Drakelist] Nastiest Drake Gear
Well at least he didn't say it was almost mint. Mike wb8vge Sent from my iPhone On Dec 21, 2011, at 7:46 AM, Steve Wedge w1es1...@earthlink.net wrote: I'm going to nominate this as the most-abused, nastiest-looking piece of Drake gear I've ever seen: http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=260919992177ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123 I wouldn't even bet that the meter's working given how much moisture this one has seen. Enjoy those Drakes - but not underwater... Steve, W1ES/4 ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
Re: [Drakelist] Nastiest Drake Gear
This rig needs a little TLC. Tech special. Can't test, but previous owner said repair was a simple fix just time to do it. Could be a collector rig with a little work. ;) Curt KU8L On 12/21/2011 7:55 AM, Mike Bryce wrote: Well at least he didn't say it was almost mint. Mike wb8vge Sent from my iPhone On Dec 21, 2011, at 7:46 AM, Steve Wedgew1es1...@earthlink.net wrote: I'm going to nominate this as the most-abused, nastiest-looking piece of Drake gear I've ever seen: http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=260919992177ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123 I wouldn't even bet that the meter's working given how much moisture this one has seen. Enjoy those Drakes - but not underwater... Steve, W1ES/4 ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
Re: [Drakelist] Nastiest Drake Gear
No...We should congratulate this seller as giving a very clear description of this rig. They aren't always so forthcoming, unfortunately. Curt On 12/21/2011 7:55 AM, Mike Bryce wrote: Well at least he didn't say it was almost mint. Mike wb8vge Sent from my iPhone On Dec 21, 2011, at 7:46 AM, Steve Wedgew1es1...@earthlink.net wrote: I'm going to nominate this as the most-abused, nastiest-looking piece of Drake gear I've ever seen: http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=260919992177ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123 I wouldn't even bet that the meter's working given how much moisture this one has seen. Enjoy those Drakes - but not underwater... Steve, W1ES/4 ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
Re: [Drakelist] AC-4R Surprise
Hello Gary, Yes, that is what I've concluded too though haven't confirmed with measurements yet. I know at one time you repaired Drake equipment (maybe you still do), so would appreciate any words of wisdom about finding and correcting a short in the B+. Nothing obvious on visible inspection, seems finding a short in the B+ will likely be nearly impossible, a lot of area to cover. Maybe need to inquire whether anyone needs a parts rig. It's a shame, the cosmetics and until now the performance of this T-4X has been pretty nice. Thanks in advance, 73, Curt KB5JO ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
Re: [Drakelist] Nastiest Drake Gear
Yeah, or 8 out of 10. (wink). Steve -Original Message- From: Mike Bryce proso...@sssnet.com Sent: Dec 21, 2011 7:55 AM To: Steve Wedge w1es1...@earthlink.net Cc: drakelist@zerobeat.net drakelist@zerobeat.net Subject: Re: [Drakelist] Nastiest Drake Gear Well at least he didn't say it was almost mint. Mike wb8vge Sent from my iPhone On Dec 21, 2011, at 7:46 AM, Steve Wedge w1es1...@earthlink.net wrote: I'm going to nominate this as the most-abused, nastiest-looking piece of Drake gear I've ever seen: http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=260919992177ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123 I wouldn't even bet that the meter's working given how much moisture this one has seen. Enjoy those Drakes - but not underwater... Steve, W1ES/4 ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
Re: [Drakelist] Nastiest Drake Gear
I salute the seller on accurately showing and describing it. There's very little left - maybe the crystals, the filters and possibly the PTO. Even the cabinet's too far gone for a repaint unless you angle-grind and red lead it like a car resto. I'm thinking that cellar had a dirt floor. Steve, W1ES/4 -Original Message- From: Curt cptc...@flash.net Sent: Dec 21, 2011 8:10 AM To: drakelist@zerobeat.net Subject: Re: [Drakelist] Nastiest Drake Gear This rig needs a little TLC. Tech special. Can't test, but previous owner said repair was a simple fix just time to do it. Could be a collector rig with a little work. ;) Curt KU8L On 12/21/2011 7:55 AM, Mike Bryce wrote: Well at least he didn't say it was almost mint. Mike wb8vge Sent from my iPhone On Dec 21, 2011, at 7:46 AM, Steve Wedgew1es1...@earthlink.net wrote: I'm going to nominate this as the most-abused, nastiest-looking piece of Drake gear I've ever seen: http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=260919992177ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123 I wouldn't even bet that the meter's working given how much moisture this one has seen. Enjoy those Drakes - but not underwater... Steve, W1ES/4 ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
Re: [Drakelist] AC-4R Surprise
Curt, before you throw in the towel, have you tried pulling all the non-final tubes to be sure it's not an internal short in one of them? It's exceedingly rare in receiving tubes but not impossible if something came loose internally. To break up the problem into manageable chunks (assuming the tubes are okay), follow the B+ line and unhook it half-way from the source and re-check. Continue splitting the bad side 'til you get there. Hard shorts are blessings: they generally stay around until you find them! 73, Steve, W1ES/4 -Original Message- From: rhule...@comcast.net Sent: Dec 21, 2011 8:17 AM To: Gary Poland gpola...@cinci.rr.com Cc: Drakelist@zerobeat.net Subject: Re: [Drakelist] AC-4R Surprise Hello Gary, Yes, that is what I've concluded too though haven't confirmed with measurements yet. I know at one time you repaired Drake equipment (maybe you still do), so would appreciate any words of wisdom about finding and correcting a short in the B+. Nothing obvious on visible inspection, seems finding a short in the B+ will likely be nearly impossible, a lot of area to cover. Maybe need to inquire whether anyone needs a parts rig. It's a shame, the cosmetics and until now the performance of this T-4X has been pretty nice. Thanks in advance, 73, Curt KB5JO ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
Re: [Drakelist] Nastiest Drake Gear
Butt ugly would be a compliment. 73 W5BXE Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 07:46:21 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: Steve Wedge w1es1...@earthlink.net To: drakelist@zerobeat.net drakelist@zerobeat.net Subject: [Drakelist] Nastiest Drake Gear Message-ID: 19754055.1324471581100.javamail.r...@wamui-junio.atl.sa.earthlink.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I'm going to nominate this as the most-abused, nastiest-looking piece of Drake gear I've ever seen: http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=260919992177ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123 I wouldn't even bet that the meter's working given how much moisture this one has seen. Enjoy those Drakes - but not underwater... Steve, W1ES/4___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
Re: [Drakelist] TX-4C 160 Mod ?
Hi Guys, I am not sure how good the print quality is, but the entire collection of HR magazine (or most of) has recently been made available for download in PDF or just about any format you chose here: http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=collection%3Aham-radio-magazinesort=-publicdate By the way, 73 magazine archives are also available here: http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=collection%3A73-magazinesort=-publicdate I have already spent a bunch of time searching around through this stuff. Lotsa fun. 73, Bob K6GGO I think the discussion is now about the expanded preselector dial that came with the FS4. HR magazine had home brew FS4 in Aug 1972 issue. That article had a copy of the dial in print. That might be where you can pick off a high resolution image if you have an origial. I sold my incomplete set of HR mags when I purchased the entire PDF collection. The PDF of the page that the dial is on is not that great. OTOH you might be able to use it for a starting point to do image restoration and enhancement. Aug 1972 - Ham Radio (Pg. 6) Frequency Synthesizer for the Drake R-4 Receiver Author: Stein, Robert S., W6NBI Sorry if I misunderstood the thread. 73, Ron WD8SBB --- On Tue, 12/20/11, Jim Shorneyjshor...@inebraska.com wrote: ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
Re: [Drakelist] Nastiest Drake Gear
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 8:10 AM, Curt cptc...@flash.net wrote: This rig needs a little TLC. Tech special. Can't test, but previous owner said repair was a simple fix just time to do it. Could be a collector rig with a little work. Or Worked last time I used it! 73 de Lee -- Lee Hiers, AA4GA www.aa4ga.com ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
Re: [Drakelist] AC-4R Surprise
A good first step is use the resistance chart in the manual for the tube sockets. I would also check the relay. 73, Bob WW3QB Curt, before you throw in the towel, have you tried pulling all the non-final tubes to be sure it's not an internal short in one of them? It's exceedingly rare in receiving tubes but not impossible if something came loose internally. To break up the problem into manageable chunks (assuming the tubes are okay), follow the B+ line and unhook it half-way from the source and re-check. Continue splitting the bad side 'til you get there. Hard shorts are blessings: they generally stay around until you find them! 73, Steve, W1ES/4 -Original Message- From: rhule...@comcast.net Sent: Dec 21, 2011 8:17 AM To: Gary Poland gpola...@cinci.rr.com Cc: Drakelist@zerobeat.net Subject: Re: [Drakelist] AC-4R Surprise Hello Gary, Yes, that is what I've concluded too though haven't confirmed with measurements yet. I know at one time you repaired Drake equipment (maybe you still do), so would appreciate any words of wisdom about finding and correcting a short in the B+. Nothing obvious on visible inspection, seems finding a short in the B+ will likely be nearly impossible, a lot of area to cover. Maybe need to inquire whether anyone needs a parts rig. It's a shame, the cosmetics and until now the performance of this T-4X has been pretty nice. Thanks in advance, 73, Curt KB5JO ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
Re: [Drakelist] Nastiest Drake Gear
lee.hi...@gmail.com writes: Or Worked last time I used it! 73 de Lee Hiers, AA4GA Now wait a sec there Lee, I resemble that remark. Have an R4 that I have not touched for perhaps four years. Of course if I were going to sell which I am not morals would come into play and I'd have check it out first to so I guess it doesn't apply. Carl wd8nhk ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
Re: [Drakelist] Nastiest Drake Gear
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 08:27:08 -0500 (GMT-05:00)From: Steve Wedge w1es1...@earthlink.netTo: Curt cptc...@flash.net, drakelist@zerobeat.netSubject: Re: [Drakelist] Nastiest Drake GearMessage-ID: 17951982.1324474028510.javamail.r...@wamui-junio.atl.sa.earthlink.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I salute the seller on accurately showing and describing it. There's very little left - maybe the crystals, the filters and possibly the PTO. Even the cabinet's too far gone for a repaint unless you angle-grind and red lead it like a car resto. I'm thinking that cellar had a dirt floor. Steve, W1ES/4 Steve, My T4XB looks a lot better now Steve! Thanks... -- Paul Gerhardt K3PG http://pgerhardt.blogspot.com QRP ARCI 6674 FP 274 You must do this work with love or you fail. -- John Muir, from How to Keep Your Volkswagen Alive ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
Re: [Drakelist] Nastiest Drake Gear
Yeah, I've got one I'm working on for WA1HZK that I thought was scruffy, but it can't hold a candle to this one. And, at least Keith's is sorta working! Steve -Original Message- From: Paul Gerhardt phgerha...@gmail.com Sent: Dec 21, 2011 10:19 AM To: drakelist@zerobeat.net Subject: Re: [Drakelist] Nastiest Drake Gear Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 08:27:08 -0500 (GMT-05:00)From: Steve Wedge w1es1...@earthlink.netTo: Curt cptc...@flash.net, drakelist@zerobeat.netSubject: Re: [Drakelist] Nastiest Drake GearMessage-ID: 17951982.1324474028510.javamail.r...@wamui-junio.atl.sa.earthlink.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I salute the seller on accurately showing and describing it. There's very little left - maybe the crystals, the filters and possibly the PTO. Even the cabinet's too far gone for a repaint unless you angle-grind and red lead it like a car resto. I'm thinking that cellar had a dirt floor. Steve, W1ES/4 Steve, My T4XB looks a lot better now Steve! Thanks... -- Paul Gerhardt K3PG http://pgerhardt.blogspot.com QRP ARCI 6674 FP 274 You must do this work with love or you fail. -- John Muir, from How to Keep Your Volkswagen Alive ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
Re: [Drakelist] A Great Source for Real HC-6/U Crystals
Hello Jim, All It seems my post went directly to you. It was supposed to go through the Drakelist to you! Anyways.. No, it is definitely the better, non contaminating welding process quality. Look for instance at this place: http://www.stabitech.nl/QuartzCrystalHolderTypes.htm I remember reading about this at a number of different places though. It is being used since long before rohs was invented. But agreed, lead-free / rohs compliance could also be a valid reason for using this type of crystal holder for manufacturers. Sending this now to the correct email address, drakelist@zerobeat.net as intended the first time... ;-) Henry - PA0HJA On 12/21/2011 5:47 PM, Jim Pruitt wrote: Hello Henry. You could be right or it could just be industry's way of being rohs compliant. I see this frequently when trying to order any electronic parts. I might have an old part number but later find the part is still available under a different number and the new number uses no lead. Thank you. Jim Pruitt On 12/20/2011 at 12:58 PM, henry.vredeg...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I always thought that HC48/U is the preferred, higher quality type than the HC6/U types? Because of the welding process instead of soldering, the crystal material itself is less prone to impurities coming from the soldering process vapors getting into the crystal lattice when sealing the unit? 73's, Henry - PA0HJA On 12/20/2011 4:54 PM, Jim Pruitt wrote: Hello Don and the group. Please do not quote me but if memory serves me correctly the HC-6 and the FT243 have the same center to center pin spacing, just the diameter of the pins is different with the FT-243 being bigger (as in same diameter as a pin from an old octal tube or .093 od). Also I do not think that International Crystal still has HC-6/U holders as they now call then HC-48's. I once tried to have a discussion with International Crystal about that and got no answer but if you look at their web site. That is just a nomenclature difference but it makes it hard to go to a manufacturer's web site and find what you are looking for without knowing that the old nomenclature no longer exists but what you are looking for is called something else and still exists. I think Bry Carling's web site has a crystal socket page that shows them very well. From Bry's web page at: http://www.af4k.com/crystal_holders.htm he lists the HC6 and FT243 as: FT243, 2 pins, spaced 0.486 and .093 dia. HC-6/U - Crystal, metal can, spacing 0.486, pin dia. 0.050 Holder Type Pin Spacing Pin DiameterHeight Width Thickness HC-5/U 0.812 0.156 2.201.821.60 HC-6/U 0.486 0.050 0.780.760.35 HC-10/U (Note A)0.060 1.10- 0.56D HC-13/U 0.486 0.050 0.780.760.35 HC-17/U 0.486 0.093 0.780.760.35 HC-18/U (Note B)- 0.530.400.15 HC-25/U 0.192 0.040 1.530.760.35 FT-243 0.500 0.093 1.100.900.40 FT-243 - Dimensions: 13/16 X 3/8 X 1-1/8 tall Dimensions: 0.8125 wide X 0.375 deep X 1.125 tall plus pins. Dimensions: 20.6mm X 9.5mm X 28.6 mm With 2 pins, spaced 0.486 (12.3mm) and pin diameter = 0.093 (2.4mm) Pin length =3/8 (9.5mm). He lists the HC48 as: HC-48/U - Crystal Unit, thin pins, same as HC-6/U but welded. and that is also what you will get from International Crystal. I just looked at Jan Crystal's web page at http://www.jancrystals.com/chart.html and they still list them as HC-6/U. I found their web site hard to use from an ordering standpoint but they have been around for years. I do not know if that sheds any light on the discussion or not but the HC48 versus HC6 discussion caught me by surprise at International when I was looking for crystals a few years ago. By the same token, HC25 (small plug in crystals liked used in the old Drake crystal controlled 2 meter transceivers) is something like HC50 now and the HC18 wire lead is now the common HC49. Again the HC49 and HC50 or HC25 and HC18 if you will, is like the HC6 and FT243 in that the pin spacing is the same but the pin diameter is different. HC-18/U - Crystal - same as HC-49/U but soldered HC-25/U - Crystal - Same as HC-49 but with rigid pins. (also same as HC50/U but soldered) So I gather from Bry's discussion that the difference between the HC6 and the HC50 is that the HC6 is has a soldered on shell where the HC50 has a welded shell. Same for the HC25 and HC50 in that the HC-25 is soldered and the HC-50 is welded. Why the holder nomenclature is different just because they used a different method to attach the top cover is beyond me but then I am not in manufacturing. Thank you. Jim Pruitt On 12/19/2011 at 7:15 PM, d...@martineer.net wrote: Lee, I'm really not understanding your posts I have seen on several venues today. There's not really a coorelation between the HC-6/U crystal and the FT-243, unless my old
Re: [Drakelist] TX-4C 160 Mod ?
Geoff, I have the legit version from the ARRL. I forgot that I converted all their image files (1 for each page, with a clunky program to view them) into PDF file per issue. The resolution is fine for average usage, but it is *not* high res by any stretch of your imagination. 73, Ron WD8SBB --- On Wed, 12/21/11, geoffrey mendelson geoffreymendel...@gmail.com wrote: From: geoffrey mendelson geoffreymendel...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Drakelist] TX-4C 160 Mod ? To: drakelist@zerobeat.net List drakelist@zerobeat.net Date: Wednesday, December 21, 2011, 6:07 AM On Dec 21, 2011, at 12:26 PM, Ron wrote: I sold my incomplete set of HR mags when I purchased the entire PDF collection. The PDF of the page that the dial is on is not that great. OTOH you might be able to use it for a starting point to do image restoration and enhancement. Which set do you have? There are two out there. The first set was produced by a ham on his own. It was sold as a set of two DVD-ROMs. I don't know his motivation, but based upon the price he charged I think he was trying to preserve a dying art. I don't think he understood that HR magazine did not simply cease to exist, they stopped publishing magazines and sold the rights to what they had published. Later the holder of the copyrights, CQ magazine, produced an official set on CD. The quality of the images from the other set was much better. Geoff. --Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM My high blood pressure medicine reduces my midichlorian count. :-( ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
Re: [Drakelist] Nastiest Drake Gear
NahI think it will come up pretty well. JB -Original Message- From: drakelist-boun...@zerobeat.net [mailto:drakelist-boun...@zerobeat.net] On Behalf Of Steve Wedge Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2011 11:46 PM To: drakelist@zerobeat.net Subject: [Drakelist] Nastiest Drake Gear I'm going to nominate this as the most-abused, nastiest-looking piece of Drake gear I've ever seen: http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=260919992177ssPageNa me=ADME:B:SS:US:1123 I wouldn't even bet that the meter's working given how much moisture this one has seen. Enjoy those Drakes - but not underwater... Steve, W1ES/4 ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
Re: [Drakelist] Nastiest Drake Gear
Do I dare say, well Hewlett Packard use to wash. . . . . ;-) -Original Message- From: drakelist-boun...@zerobeat.net [mailto:drakelist-boun...@zerobeat.net] On Behalf Of John Brown Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 4:32 PM To: 'Steve Wedge'; drakelist@zerobeat.net Subject: Re: [Drakelist] Nastiest Drake Gear NahI think it will come up pretty well. JB -Original Message- From: drakelist-boun...@zerobeat.net [mailto:drakelist-boun...@zerobeat.net] On Behalf Of Steve Wedge Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2011 11:46 PM To: drakelist@zerobeat.net Subject: [Drakelist] Nastiest Drake Gear I'm going to nominate this as the most-abused, nastiest-looking piece of Drake gear I've ever seen: http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=260919992177ssPageNa me=ADME:B:SS:US:1123 I wouldn't even bet that the meter's working given how much moisture this one has seen. Enjoy those Drakes - but not underwater... Steve, W1ES/4 ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
Re: [Drakelist] Nastiest Drake Gear
My TR-3 parts rig looks like collector quality next to this. Steve Wedge, W1ES/4 I swear by my life, and my love of it, that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine. -Ayn Rand. All my computers have my signature with various pearls of wisdom appended thereto. -- From: John Brown brown...@optusnet.com.au Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 7:31 PM To: 'Steve Wedge' w1es1...@earthlink.net; drakelist@zerobeat.net Subject: RE: [Drakelist] Nastiest Drake Gear NahI think it will come up pretty well. JB -Original Message- From: drakelist-boun...@zerobeat.net [mailto:drakelist-boun...@zerobeat.net] On Behalf Of Steve Wedge Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2011 11:46 PM To: drakelist@zerobeat.net Subject: [Drakelist] Nastiest Drake Gear I'm going to nominate this as the most-abused, nastiest-looking piece of Drake gear I've ever seen: http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=260919992177ssPageNa me=ADME:B:SS:US:1123 I wouldn't even bet that the meter's working given how much moisture this one has seen. Enjoy those Drakes - but not underwater... Steve, W1ES/4 ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
Re: [Drakelist] Nastiest Drake Gear
In a few days you will find someone on here asking how do you remove rust and make a cabinet and chassis look like new again. What brand of stuff in a bottle will do this in 5 minutes or less. Then they will add, please, no suggestions costing over $10.00 ! You just watch and see if I am correct. Lee, w0vt ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
Re: [Drakelist] A Great Source for Real HC-6/U Crystals
HC-6 have 1 mm pins. FT-243 have 2 mm pins. The spacing is the same however. Lee, w0vt ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
Re: [Drakelist] Nastiest Drake Gear
That's quite beyond washing, mate! ;-) Steve Wedge, W1ES/4 I swear by my life, and my love of it, that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine. -Ayn Rand. All my computers have my signature with various pearls of wisdom appended thereto. -- From: John Hudson john.hud...@calema.ca.gov Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 7:42 PM To: John Brown brown...@optusnet.com.au; 'Steve Wedge' w1es1...@earthlink.net; drakelist@zerobeat.net Subject: RE: [Drakelist] Nastiest Drake Gear Do I dare say, well Hewlett Packard use to wash. . . . . ;-) -Original Message- From: drakelist-boun...@zerobeat.net [mailto:drakelist-boun...@zerobeat.net] On Behalf Of John Brown Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 4:32 PM To: 'Steve Wedge'; drakelist@zerobeat.net Subject: Re: [Drakelist] Nastiest Drake Gear NahI think it will come up pretty well. JB -Original Message- From: drakelist-boun...@zerobeat.net [mailto:drakelist-boun...@zerobeat.net] On Behalf Of Steve Wedge Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2011 11:46 PM To: drakelist@zerobeat.net Subject: [Drakelist] Nastiest Drake Gear I'm going to nominate this as the most-abused, nastiest-looking piece of Drake gear I've ever seen: http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=260919992177ssPageNa me=ADME:B:SS:US:1123 I wouldn't even bet that the meter's working given how much moisture this one has seen. Enjoy those Drakes - but not underwater... Steve, W1ES/4 ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
Re: [Drakelist] AC-4R Surprise
Well, my nose detected burnt smell in vicinity of T4. R61, a 150ohm 1/2 resistor in the 250 volt line to V8's plate is burnt to a crisp, resistance is zero. But why? Resistance to ground on V8 pin 5 is 15k per spec. But pin 6 screen grid resistance to ground it 15k, vs 90k spec. Any advice? 73, Curt KB5JO ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
Re: [Drakelist] Nastiest Drake Gear
Two people have bid on it, I see. Could it be one of you? On one level, it would be interesting to see if someone could get it to work at all. After all, pseudo-antique shops are making the Big Bux selling Shabby Chic these days and using furniture with distressed paint, etc. Then again, someone could make a mobile out of it. Would it then be a mobile rig? Ducking... Steve Wedge, W1ES/4 I swear by my life, and my love of it, that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine. -Ayn Rand. All my computers have my signature with various pearls of wisdom appended thereto. -- From: lee pulsa...@embarqmail.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 8:27 PM To: John Brown brown...@optusnet.com.au; 'Steve Wedge' w1es1...@earthlink.net; drakelist@zerobeat.net Subject: Re: [Drakelist] Nastiest Drake Gear In a few days you will find someone on here asking how do you remove rust and make a cabinet and chassis look like new again. What brand of stuff in a bottle will do this in 5 minutes or less. Then they will add, please, no suggestions costing over $10.00 ! You just watch and see if I am correct. Lee, w0vt ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
Re: [Drakelist] Nastiest Drake Gear
Mobile...YES...of course, How about mobile like thrown off a 20 story building! Hi, Hi! 73, Lee -Original Message- From: Steve Wedge w1es1...@earthlink.net To: lee pulsa...@embarqmail.com; John Brown brown...@optusnet.com.au; drakelist drakelist@zerobeat.net Sent: Wed, Dec 21, 2011 8:59 pm Subject: Re: [Drakelist] Nastiest Drake Gear Two people have bid on it, I see. Could it be one of you? On one level, it would be interesting to see if someone could get it to work at all. After all, pseudo-antique shops are making the Big Bux selling Shabby Chic these days and using furniture with distressed paint, etc. Then again, someone could make a mobile out of it. Would it then be a mobile rig? Ducking... Steve Wedge, W1ES/4 I swear by my life, and my love of it, that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine. -Ayn Rand. All my computers have my signature with various pearls of wisdom appended thereto. -- From: lee pulsa...@embarqmail.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 8:27 PM To: John Brown brown...@optusnet.com.au; 'Steve Wedge' w1es1...@earthlink.net; drakelist@zerobeat.net Subject: Re: [Drakelist] Nastiest Drake Gear In a few days you will find someone on here asking how do you remove rust and make a cabinet and chassis look like new again. What brand of stuff in a bottle will do this in 5 minutes or less. Then they will add, please, no suggestions costing over $10.00 ! You just watch and see if I am correct. Lee, w0vt ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
Re: [Drakelist] Nastiest Drake Gear
This is a bad thought, but we have all seen the big crushers for wrecked cars. I wonder if a little crusher exists for radio hulks like this. Mark N5KAE - Original Message From: Steve Wedge w1es1...@earthlink.net To: lee pulsa...@embarqmail.com; John Brown brown...@optusnet.com.au; drakelist@zerobeat.net Sent: Wed, December 21, 2011 7:53:31 PM Subject: Re: [Drakelist] Nastiest Drake Gear Two people have bid on it, I see. Could it be one of you? On one level, it would be interesting to see if someone could get it to work at all. After all, pseudo-antique shops are making the Big Bux selling Shabby Chic these days and using furniture with distressed paint, etc. Then again, someone could make a mobile out of it. Would it then be a mobile rig? Ducking... Steve Wedge, W1ES/4 I swear by my life, and my love of it, that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine. -Ayn Rand. All my computers have my signature with various pearls of wisdom appended thereto. -- From: lee pulsa...@embarqmail.com Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 8:27 PM To: John Brown brown...@optusnet.com.au; 'Steve Wedge' w1es1...@earthlink.net; drakelist@zerobeat.net Subject: Re: [Drakelist] Nastiest Drake Gear In a few days you will find someone on here asking how do you remove rust and make a cabinet and chassis look like new again. What brand of stuff in a bottle will do this in 5 minutes or less. Then they will add, please, no suggestions costing over $10.00 ! You just watch and see if I am correct. Lee, w0vt ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
Re: [Drakelist] AC-4R Surprise
It's interesting that the pin 6 resistance to ground is so low since it passes through a 82K resistor. Do the values change if you remove V8? I sense a tube short. 73, Bob WW3QB Well, my nose detected burnt smell in vicinity of T4. R61, a 150ohm 1/2 resistor in the 250 volt line to V8's plate is burnt to a crisp, resistance is zero. But why? Resistance to ground on V8 pin 5 is 15k per spec. But pin 6 screen grid resistance to ground it 15k, vs 90k spec. Any advice? 73, Curt KB5JO ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
Re: [Drakelist] AC-4R Surprise
If you can find a tube tester, test it. I find that 6HS6's get shorts more than most other tubes. They won't show up until you light the filament. My TV-10-D/U puts line voltage on the pins to check for shorts (to light a neon bulb), so you wouldn't necessarily see a short with no power to it. Not sure why I see so many: if it's something in the design or just because many people when they find these tubes are on the way out try to milk them for as long as they can because they're so expensive. Typical eBay prices for them are around $30 but you should be able to find a local provider who will sell them for $15 each or so. Sometimes I get lucky and find them in $2/each assorted tubes boxes :) Funny to see a resistor fail shorted. Not typical. Congrats on your find! Steve Wedge, W1ES/4 I swear by my life, and my love of it, that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine. -Ayn Rand. All my computers have my signature with various pearls of wisdom appended thereto. -- From: rhule...@comcast.net Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 8:54 PM To: Drakelist@zerobeat.net Cc: Drakelist@zerobeat.net Subject: Re: [Drakelist] AC-4R Surprise Well, my nose detected burnt smell in vicinity of T4. R61, a 150ohm 1/2 resistor in the 250 volt line to V8's plate is burnt to a crisp, resistance is zero. But why? Resistance to ground on V8 pin 5 is 15k per spec. But pin 6 screen grid resistance to ground it 15k, vs 90k spec. Any advice? 73, Curt KB5JO ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
Re: [Drakelist] AC-4R Surprise
Curt - If this is a 'new' transmitter to you, the most likely cause of a crispy R61 is that someone shorted one of the trimmer caps in the PreSelector plate circuit to the chassis. Easy to do, especially when guys use a metal screwdriver to adjust those trimmers through those little holes. Only takes a momentary short to do it! R21 and R26 are also subject to this problem! Of course a Plate / Suppressor short will also do it, but those don't usually 'clear' after a failure. -- 73, Garey - K4OAH St Charles, IL Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-A, 4-B, C-Line and TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs www.k4oah.com rhule...@comcast.net wrote: Well, my nose detected burnt smell in vicinity of T4. R61, a 150ohm 1/2 resistor in the 250 volt line to V8's plate is burnt to a crisp, resistance is zero. But why? Resistance to ground on V8 pin 5 is 15k per spec. But pin 6 screen grid resistance to ground it 15k, vs 90k spec. Any advice? 73, Curt KB5JO ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
Re: [Drakelist] AC-4R Surprise
Steve - Extremely high gain tubes mean extremely closely spaced grids! :-) -- 73, Garey - K4OAH St Charles, IL Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-A, 4-B, C-Line and TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs www.k4oah.com Steve Wedge wrote: If you can find a tube tester, test it. I find that 6HS6's get shorts more than most other tubes. They won't show up until you light the filament. My TV-10-D/U puts line voltage on the pins to check for shorts (to light a neon bulb), so you wouldn't necessarily see a short with no power to it. Not sure why I see so many: if it's something in the design or just because many people when they find these tubes are on the way out try to milk them for as long as they can because they're so expensive. From: rhule...@comcast.net Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 8:54 PM To: Drakelist@zerobeat.net Cc: Drakelist@zerobeat.net Subject: Re: [Drakelist] AC-4R Surprise Well, my nose detected burnt smell in vicinity of T4. R61, a 150ohm 1/2 resistor in the 250 volt line to V8's plate is burnt to a crisp, resistance is zero. But why? Resistance to ground on V8 pin 5 is 15k per spec. But pin 6 screen grid resistance to ground it 15k, vs 90k spec. Any advice? 73, Curt KB5JO ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
Re: [Drakelist] Nastiest Drake Gear
Now this one looks like it actually SERVED as a boatanchor! Dennis AE6C On 12/21/11, Steve Wedge w1es1...@earthlink.net wrote: I'm going to nominate this as the most-abused, nastiest-looking piece of Drake gear I've ever seen: http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=260919992177ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123 I wouldn't even bet that the meter's working given how much moisture this one has seen. Enjoy those Drakes - but not underwater... Steve, W1ES/4 ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
Re: [Drakelist] Nastiest Drake Gear
First remove the crystals. They occasionally fail and are needed. On 12/21/2011 2110, Mark Nace wrote: This is a bad thought, but we have all seen the big crushers for wrecked cars. I wonder if a little crusher exists for radio hulks like this. Mark N5KAE -- ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
[Drakelist] T4XB Front Panel
Does any one happen to have a T4XB front panel for sale? It doesn't have to be museum quality but no extra holes please. Please email me direct with your info and asking price --a digital photo would be helpful too. 73's Pete N6QW___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist
