Re: [Drakelist] TX4B cathode resistors

2012-09-18 Thread Al Parker

Hi Peter,
	IF you use ohms law to figure the current thru the resistors, you'll 
see that one tube is drawing about 28 ma., and the other is drawing 43 
ma.  They'll probably be in about the same ratio under higher load. 
Checking this is one way, when the resistances are equal, to determine 
if one tube is getting weak.

You should replace both resistors with new ones rated at 1w or more.
73,

Al, W8UT
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On 9/18/2012 2:08 PM, Peter Ravn wrote:

The two cathode resistors in the finals in the TX4B should be 15 ohms
each, but R32 is 30 ohms and R33 16 ohms with the finals unplugged, so
R32 is definitely bad. The difference in voltages on the cathodes of the
two finals is, however, minimal. The voltage across R32 is 0.85 and 0.7
across the R33.

What are the causes and consequences of the differences in the cathode
resistors?

Thanks.

OZ8CTH

Peter



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Re: [Drakelist] TX4B cathode resistors

2012-09-18 Thread Richard Knoppow


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From: Peter Ravn fas...@privat.dk

To: Drakelist@zerobeat.net
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 11:08 AM
Subject: [Drakelist] TX4B cathode resistors


The two cathode resistors in the finals in the TX4B should 
be 15 ohms each,
but R32 is 30 ohms and R33 16 ohms with the finals 
unplugged, so R32 is
definitely bad. The difference in voltages on the cathodes 
of the two finals
is, however, minimal. The voltage across R32 is 0.85 and 
0.7 across the R33.


What are the causes and consequences of the differences in 
the cathode

resistors?

Thanks.

OZ8CTH

Peter

   I am not sure what the intended purpose of the resistors 
is.  They have by-pass caps on both sides and are further 
connected to an RF choke which goes to the metering circuit. 
You can measure the total tube current of each tube by 
measuring the drop across the resistors. The voltage drop is 
very small compared to the fixed grid bias so I don't think 
they have much effect on it.
   I found the same thing in my T4XB, one resistor right on 
the nose, the other about twice the marked value.  They were 
of different manufacture, the good one having a solid body, 
the bad one having a mold seam and different surface 
texture.  I replaced both with metal oxide film resistors. 
I did the same in my TR-4.
   While all carbon composition resistors tend to increase 
in value with age and heat some are much worse than others. 
For the most part I've found that Ohmite and Allen-Bradley 
resistors tend to stay pretty stable. I don't know who made 
the seamed ones and don't see many IRC resistors in the 
stuff I've worked on.  IRC have a sort of tree bark texture 
that was supposed to help dissipate heat and also were 
metalized, I have no idea of what that really was.  The 
resistors with mold seams going the long way all seem to go 
bad.



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Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles
WB6KBL
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Re: [Drakelist] TX4B cathode resistors

2012-09-18 Thread kc9cdt

They are in the meter cicuit...and if they are wrong..the plate current will 
not read correctly...and of course the current on both tubes will not be matched
73,
Lee


 


-Original Message-
From: Peter Ravn fas...@privat.dk
To: Drakelist Drakelist@zerobeat.net
Sent: Tue, Sep 18, 2012 3:11 pm
Subject: [Drakelist] TX4B cathode resistors



The two cathode resistors in the finals in the TX4B should be 15 ohms each, but 
R32 is 30 ohms and R33 16 ohms with the finals unplugged, so R32 is definitely 
bad. The difference in voltages on the cathodes of the two finals is, however, 
minimal. The voltage across R32 is 0.85 and 0.7 across the R33.
What are the causes and consequences of the differences in the cathode 
resistors?
Thanks.
OZ8CTH
Peter

 
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